DICKERSON: To go -- right.
Jeffrey, I want to switch now to you. Donald Trump gave two interviews this week, one to "The Washington Post" editorial board and then in two sets of interviews with "The New York Times," particularly on foreign policy. On "The New York Times" conversation, what did you glean from his foreign policy world view?
GOLDBERG: I gleaned that he has no understanding of the post war international order that was created by the United States, that he has no understanding of why we maintain alliances with such treaty partners as Japan and South Korea, Britain, NATO and the importance of maintaining those stable relationships of democracies shows that he has no understanding of nuclear doctrine. I mean other than that, it was cool. It was really remarkable to imagine that someone who shows so little interest in understanding why the world is organized the way it is organized is this close to the presidency of the world's only super power.
PAGE: You know it's interesting, you look at the four candidates who you think might possibly be nominated like Clinton and Sanders or Trump and Cruz, and there's only one who's in the mainstream of either Republican or Democratic foreign policy thought, and that's -- and that's Clinton.
PAGE: The others are in -- and in what would generally be considered kind of fringe positions on these issues. And so it's interesting that George Schulz (ph), you know, was in on -- attended the Hillary Clinton speech at Stanford about her world view and I wondered what kind of message that was intended to send.
DICKERSON: Donald Trump name checked George Schultz and said he's a secretary of state he liked.
DOMENECH: Yes. You know it's interesting to see -- I think -- I agree with that frame. But, again, is -- doesn't that speak to the -- to the country's general rejection of what the foreign policy establishment is (INAUDIBLE).
GOLDBERG: But I'm not sure --
DOMENECH: I think -- I think it really does. I think that it's -- I think it's basically saying, it doesn't actually have an answer. It doesn't have an alternative answer, but it just says what you're doing isn't working, we don't trust you, we don't think that you actually are doing things any better.
GOLDBERG: But I think if you spend ten seconds explain to people why we have an alliance with South Korea and Japan, they generally will understand that. Maybe I'm mistaken?
DICKERSON: Unfortunately I'm going to have to cut you all off, just at the meaty moment.
Thanks all of you.
We'll be back in a moment.
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