Transcript from Jimmy Kimmel Live:
- Paris attack shows that the bad guys have won
- Cartoonists around the world respond to Paris attack
- WATCH: Jon Stewart addresses the Charlie Hebdo murders
- WATCH: White House press secretary explains why U.S. isn't calling Paris attack 'terrorism'
- Paris shooting updates / Suspects spotted, anti-terror police deploy north of Paris
- The provocative covers of Charlie Hebdo
JIMMY KIMMEL, HOST: A terrible thing happened today in Paris.
BILL MAHER: Yes. Tell them.
KIMMEL: People were killed. I know a lot of people are on vacation so maybe they don't know what's going on.
MAHER: You're the host so you have to tell them the bad news.
KIMMEL: The bad news is cartoonists, journalists, some other people, a police officer were killed in Paris.
MAHER: This was really big sh*t.
KIMMEL: Yes, especially in our business in particular. Especially in your business in particular.
MAHER: Right. And we have to not avoid who did this. Who did this, Jimmy?
KIMMEL: Well, we presume, and I think it's safe --
MAHER: No, no, it's not a presume. No, no. It's Muslim terrorists.
KIMMEL: Yes, Muslim terrorists.
MAHER: This happens way too frequently. It's like Groundhog Day, except if the Groundhog kept getting his head cut off. And let's also give some credit to this newspaper. This was a satirical newspaper in Paris. These guys have the balls of the Eiffel Tower. Their balls were bigger than Gérard Depardieu, because they kept doing it.
KIMMEL:Their were firebombed, their offices were firebombed.
KIMMEL: They continued. The editor said he would rather die than change with his right to free speech.
MAHER: For the crime of being satirists, for the crime of drawing cartoons. This has to stop, and unfortunately, a lot of the liberals, who are my tribe, I am a proud liberal
KIMMEL: He's about to turn on you, so.
MAHER: No, I'm not turning on them, I'm asking them to turn toward the truth as I have been for quite a while. I'm the liberal in this debate. I'm for free speech. To be a liberal, you have to stand up for liberal principles. It's not my fault that the part of the world that is most against liberal principles is the Muslim part of the world.
There have been studies. We have facts on this. Treatment of women. They studied 130 different countries. 17 of the bottom 20 were Muslim countries. In 10 Muslim countries, you can get the death penalty just for being gay. They chop heads off in the square in Mecca. Well, Mecca is their Vatican City. If they were chopping the heads off of Catholic gay people, wouldn't there be a bigger outcry among liberals? I'd ask you.
So to bring it home to us, because we are are satirists, and I'm a satirist who deals with this subject particularly, it's kind of scary, that some people say you cannot make a joke. That's off-limits. We saw this with Kim Jong-un...
We have to stop saying when something like this that happened in Paris today, we have to stop saying, well, we should not insult a great religion. First of all, there are no great religions. They're all stupid and dangerous. And we should insult them and we should be able to insult whatever we want. That is what free speech is like.
There are certain people in the world who want wafers on free speech. Kim Jong-un in North Korea says you cannot make jokes about our country, and there's a lot of Muslim people in the world. I know most Muslim people would not have carried out an attack like this. But here's the important point. Hundreds of millions of them support an attack like this. They applaud an attack like this. What they say is, we don't approve of violence, but you know what, when you make fun of the prophet, all bets are off.
KIMMEL: You really think hundreds of millions of Muslim support this?
MAHER: Absolutely. That is main stream in the Muslim world that when you make fun of the prophet, all bets are off. You get what's coming to you. It's also main stream that if you leave the religion you get what's coming to you, which is death. Not in every Muslim country in majority numbers, but this is a problem in the world that we have to stand up to.
And again, I'm the liberal in this debate. I was brought up in a liberal family. The reason we were liberals is because we were against oppression. I was a little kid when my father told us, we're with Kennedy and against the Southern Governors who stand in the doorways and don't let black kids go to school. And all my life I've been for people who have been the downtrodden, the oppressed, the minorities. I've been for blacks, gays, women, Mexicans, the bully, whoever it is.