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Israel needs to be talking with Hamas, longtime intelligence chief Efraim Halevy tells Haaretz’s Aimee Amiga in an interview alongside Haaretz’s Israel Conference on Peace in Tel Aviv on Thursday. Halevy, who spent decades in the Mossad and played an active role in achieving Israel’s peace treaty with Jordan, explains how Israeli military operations have been unsuccessful in combatting the terrorist group, and why Israel needs to recognize democratically-elected Palestinian governments even if they include Hamas. Halevy also explains to Haaretz what went wrong in Iraq after the United States invasion in 2003, and how this led to the rise of the Islamic State. Watch the full interview here: