It’s clear: one way or another, Iran is going to change our lives. If Iran becomes a nuclear power, Israel will be forced to become a fortress state with high walls around it in order to stand fast in a nuclearized, radicalized Middle East that will pose a threat to its very existence. There will be no chance for peace and no prospect of normality: we will become as Sparta. If Israel tries to curb Iran by means...
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Ari Shavit's final countdown: Iran is here
Something went terribly wrong with the Netanyahu strategy of blocking Iranian nuclearization. The threat is as daunting as ever, but stopping it has become increasingly complicated.
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22 0 0Iran is already nuclear and Israel has always been a fortress with high walls, like the WB separation "fence-wall", so what exactly is new?
- By Kristian Lazar
- 29 Sep 2012
- 01:42PM
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21 0 0iran
- By jack toal
- 29 Sep 2012
- 09:18AM
this article nails the issue.....resolution will be excruciating
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20 0 0"lefty propaganda by a lefty paper..."
- By michael cohen
- 29 Sep 2012
- 08:58AM
The fact is that we have NOT reached any modus vivendi agreement with the Arab world because the settlers in the West Bank, a small minority of the Israeli Jewish population, have been dictating the agenda of every Israeli government since 1967. The irony is that if, God forbid, we DO get into a war with Iran, the Hizbollah's missiles (40,000?) will rain down mainly on "Lefty" Tel Aviv (and "lefty" Haifa and the Galil) - NOT on the West Bank settlements.
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19 0 0Didn't get that alarmed by this article
- By Jack G
- 29 Sep 2012
- 08:45AM
If it comes down to having to go into a bloody and expensive war or not is Iran having nucleur weapons that big a deal. They wont fire them at the U.S. or Isreal for just no reason. Because the return nucleur strike would wipe Iran off the map. Very similiar to the cold war nucleur struggle between the U.S.S.R. and America.
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18 0 0Two significant things wrong:
- By GKoh
- 29 Sep 2012
- 08:44AM
1st thing wrong: make denial of +70pct grade Uranium the policy. Not low grade denial. Subject all stored 20pct grade to bi-annual IAEA accounting. Sanctions and lines drawn could be based on further enrichment of 20pct grade uranium or missing 20pct grade. 2nd thing wrong: The US and EU have little leverage on a hawkish Tehran due to settlements continuing to be built and no 2-state solution yet achieved. That lack of final solution going into this period of insecure future is a massive blunder in policy and lost credibility.
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17 0 0out of the box ..
- By david
- 29 Sep 2012
- 05:52AM
.. Hallooo ?? 120 members of parliament. Did anyone of you call up the NATO for a meeting ?
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16 0 05,4,3,2,1,: Boom !
- By Josiah Jacob Ben David
- 29 Sep 2012
- 05:12AM
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15 0 0Lefty propaganda of a lefty paper - not impressed by the big words
- By Falafel
- 29 Sep 2012
- 04:58AM
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That's because ...
- By Avshalom
- 29 Sep 2012
- 08:53AM
you can't understand them.
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Ari Shavit is not the typical Ha'aretz columnist
- By Yonatan
- 29 Sep 2012
- 10:51AM
He's an original thinker, unlike many other leading Ha'aretz columnists, whose opinions one can readlity know even without reading their articles.
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It's clear why you chose the alias "Falafel." You are full of beans!
- By Polly T.
- 13 Oct 2012
- 03:26PM
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14 0 0iran is here
- By mamood irani
- 28 Sep 2012
- 05:24PM
i read your article,u seem like a fair person.as u well awear of ,there is always 2 side to a story.your point is an isreli point.i live in u.s more than 40 years ,the issue i have with most of main stream american media is ,they have same views as yours.it seem to me it is unfair.united state must follow a policy in middle east that serve its own interest.thank you
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13 0 0IRan
- By ss
- 28 Sep 2012
- 02:21PM
If you see the suicide bombers. they are sunni Muslims. they are usually trained in Saudi Arabia to kill even the Shiat muslims .Im sure with 100 percent certainty that its better for Israel to be afraid of extrimist Arabs.Iranian people are kind even its politicians.Israil can compromise with them.Even they can makea unity against Saudi Arabia number one enemy of Iran and all Iranians.Consider my comments very seriously.
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12 0 0another Israeli view point
- By jbview
- 28 Sep 2012
- 02:06PM
The western world is the one that introduced the high respect status for nuclear armed countries. Now others are following. A country like Iran with a nuclear arm is very dangerous, but that does not make Israel the world police. They need to become humane to fix their borders first before judging others. The United States should not blindly stand against muslims, it can on principles and this seems different.
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11 0 0Iran
- By ss
- 28 Sep 2012
- 02:03PM
A powerfull Iran will not elliminate Israel .Its clear that they will engage in an compromise together.That is act more justly with Palestinians and moderate its foreign policy. Iranian people even so called Ayatollahs arent harsh enough to end the Israel existence.
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10 0 0iran
- By foster longstaff
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:58PM
quit looking to others to solve your problem. you are like my own brother, always looking for his big brother to solve his quarrels by wanting him in the fight. your 60 years of treating your neighbors, not as you would be treated, but by constantly using the barrel of a gun to get your way, has now reaped its bitter harvest. now you have to eat and you want us to share that meal? no thanks, as we did not see you in iraq, we did not see you in afghanistan, why expect to see us in iran?
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Naive
- By Randy
- 29 Sep 2012
- 04:08PM
Your comments regarding Iraq and Afghanistan show how naive you are. Israel was told not to become involved in either war so as not to create a wider conflict. Further, Iran is an issue for the United States for our own security concerns at home and in the region.
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09 0 0Heard it before
- By MickeyMouse
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:53PM
It is agreed that Iran is a rational actor. For all the doom and gloom that Israel portrays, an Iran with nuclear weapons will result in MAD, and that may in fact cool tensions in the region, as Israel will (presumably) stop beating the war drum so much. As an American, my concern is that the US's unconditional support of Israel will mean that Israel will launch a military attack anyways, and expect us to come in and fight the battle for them. Israel's policies have caused the situation to get worse and worse, and it seems that it is no longer interested in diplomacy, nor is it willing to make any concessions to achieve peace. They insist that "peace" be on their terms. Who can blame Iran for doing everything they can to obtain a nuclear weapon? It will be a big bargaining chip.
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08 0 0Sorry folks - The Neocons blew it with Iraq
- By Intellectual Honesty
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:48PM
The U.S. went after Iraq while the real threat was Iran. The game was over when G.W Bush, egged by the neo-cons stepped over the border of Iraq under false pretenses to settle old political scores. Israel will have to live with a nuclear Iran, just like India is now living with a nuclear Pakistan. The world did not come to an end then. While the U.S. lived with a nuclear Russia and a nuclear China, and the world did not come to an end either. So Israel and the U.S. will need to find an acommodation with a nuclear Iran that takes into account the security needs of both states and prevent the infection, innoculated by A. Q. Kahn from spreading elsewhere in the corpse of the Ottoman Empire.
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07 0 0Iran Atack
- By jon R
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:47PM
Israel should have acted earlier when Obama was less entrenched in his position. The US would have been there. It is probably getting to late. As bad an now seems, tomorrow is worse. Bibi continues to think the day will come when Obama or some other part of America will stand up and be by his side unquestionably. That day won't come. The US is walking further and further away. They don't see that Israel has been a shield for us in this area for a long time and they have done such a good job that the US believe sticking the shield in the ground and walking away has the same effect as holding it and treating it like the treasure it is, both to us and God. Strike before you lose congress. Obama is about Obama if he gets re-elected the game is over. If Romney get elected, you may have a better friend but that doesn't mean you can stake your existance on a campain suggested stance in which no one can identify a truely different approach. Do it now and force the US in the 24th hour or youre sure to find out what alone truely is.
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06 0 0Iran
- By Joyce
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:42PM
Ari, All I can remember is Netanyahu warning the world about Iran. I think it's very sad that the world is so complacent. After watching the Iranian president at the UN, and his rambling about the Iman who is supposed to come, I became more afraid. This man is the crazy person I have ever seen and he has a platform at the UN? Why is he there? If the UN gives him a platform after all his ranting and noncompliance, I don't know what will happen. By the way, I used to live in Israel and worry about it daily.
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stop worrying Joyce
- By Kameel
- 29 Sep 2012
- 11:35AM
and you better advise Israel's political elite to make peace, with ALL that it entails.
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05 0 0Destroy Iran
- By Vahid Tarzan
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:35PM
Once again, a bunch of Western blubber... Destroy Iran!
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04 0 0What went wrong is EASY!
- By JTLavery
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:32PM
"Something went terribly wrong with the Netanyahu strategy of blocking Iranian nuclearization." Obama basically said that his, "I'm smarter than everyone, so they will listen to me" arrogant, spineless, inept, incompetent, naive attitude is what happened.
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03 0 0Iran
- By Pauljpb2
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:31PM
What incredible fear mongering.
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02 0 0The motivation for War
- By TMJ
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:29PM
The motivation Iran has to be a threat to Israel is the lack of a fair solution to the Palestinian situation. If Israel and the Palestinians were to formulate a peace treaty acceptable to both, the wind for harming Israel would be taken out of the sails of not just Iran, but every Muslim State. So anyone who really wants a secure Israel needs to ask themselves how Can Israel and the Palestinians formulate a peace treaty that is fair to both sides.
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01 0 0Iran and Israeli Poverty
- By Ed Bentivengo
- 28 Sep 2012
- 01:28PM
Your own Jewish Israeli poor are setting fire to themselves in the streets of Israel. How can you continue to hammer at nuclear Iran (something Netanyahu has been doing now for 20 years! Can we now admit he is the boy crying wolf!!) For God's sake put it to rest. MOVE ON and join the nations of the world as an equal, not a paranoid schizophrenic.
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If you actucally lived in the Middle East and undrestood the Islamic cluture you wouldn't utter so much ignorance
- By Dan
- 29 Sep 2012
- 06:24AM
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