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Israel is gradually relinquishing the rule of law and becoming a tribe.
By Yitzhak LaorIn London on July 22, 2005, two weeks after the series of terror attacks that killed and injured dozens, police detectives killed a dark-skinned man who had fled into the subway system. The man was identified as Jean Charles de Menezes, a Brazilian. The police tried to stand behind their officers; court verdicts at various levels of the process contradicted each other and reeked of a cover-up.
In the end, in a fairly drawn-out process, it was determined that de Menezes had been shot in the head at close range and that the police had misled the public. Those directly responsible for the killing were not punished, but Sir Ian Blair, the commissioner of the London Metropolitan Police, had to resign years later. The Daily Telegraph reported that Blair's "job had been in peril since firearms officers mistakenly killed the innocent Brazilian electrician." Al-Qaida, suicide bombers and the dead and injured could not be used as cover.
It is difficult to imagine that a public security minister there would continue at his post after launching a public campaign against a court verdict.
Israel, in contrast, is gradually relinquishing the rule of law and becoming a tribe. The killing of an Arab is immediately associated with "the Middle Eastern reality." A demand for restraint becomes "living in a bubble." A shrugging off of all inhibitions is now typical of relations between the right, including Kadima, and the creators of the news as purveyors of cheap thrills. It's clear that the passion to protect private property by imposing the death penalty is not what played the primary role here, but rather contempt for the life of an Arab.
Is there a law? We'll thumb our noses at it. That's how the incitement went on after the Turkish flotilla, with no questions about what is permissible and what is not. That's how the incitement sounded against MK Hanin Zuabi, and that's how the sanctions against her look.
If detective Shahar Mizrahi had killed a Jewish criminal, there probably would not have been such well-orchestrated moral panic by Liebermanian elements in government and the leaders of the yellow journalistic flotilla. There is something arousing, attractive and low about incitement, about permitting the forbidden. The culture of posting comments online, the yellow submarine that is all about the pleasure of the anonymous forbidden statement, has infected sensationalist journalism with its aphids. The police are not the problem. The need of the High Court of Justice to "describe the details of the incident" has once again exposed a lazy media that is not interested in the facts and is fed by a political leadership that has no verbal or other inhibitions.
After all, "we" are not really allowed to do everything and "they" are not forbidden from doing everything. There are things that are legal and things that are illegal. Now the campaign against the Palestinian boycott of products from the settlements is traveling the same road with no boundaries, and has already invented a legalistic name ahead of the next panic: "economic terror." We are allowed to organize boycotts, against Sweden and Turkey, for example. The Palestinians are not allowed to organize boycotts at all. Why? Because they are our subjects, lacking rights, born to slavery. They only buy from us. They may not sell, except for very cheap labor, of course, in small doses.
A decade ago a few of the doves came complaining to the Palestinians that they were not using "passive opposition" against the occupation. As if every protest march had not always been deemed a violent act. Now our legislators - and in their footsteps the purveyors and consumers of cheap thrills - have turned this legitimate struggle into terror that must be punished.
To return to the London example, Ehud Barak's confrontational statement that "this is the Middle East, this is not Europe" has long become a slogan of bogus citizenship in a Western democracy. It befits a smooth Swiss officer from a provincial kibbutz on the coastal plain, as well as a Swedish bar bouncer from Kishinev.
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Excellent article... But is this actually possible? Israel has made MANY STUPID MISTAKES, that are putting a "BULLSEYE" on the back of the USA, and threatening to start WW3 against Iran in the ME...Engineering the "SCRIPT " laid out in bible prophecy. This would certainly lead to the collapse of the financial system as we know it... While the leaders of Israel KNOW THIS & are in COMPLETE DENIAL... Will I be labelled a Self-Hating Jew for "DARING" to speak out, like the author of this article?
Israel consists of both Arabs and Jews. Both under the same law. Both suffer from government bureaucracy, and usurpation (as in every country). To take a single action where an Israeli Arab suffered the consequences of a police mistake is demagogic. This is not to say that racist people don't exist in Israel, in fact they do. But such factions exist everywhere. By the same method one can take any European country with some injustice done to a Muslim, and claim it is a racist regime. Behind the superlatives and very emotional narratives, there is no real content. You are simply wrong - no other way to put it.
Give me one name of a middle eastern country where all faiths are treated equally, including Jews. There isn't! As for Europe, in many countries Muslims do not have the same rights; witness the laws forbidding head covers for women. It may not be right but it's reality and even more so for Israël, a country at war
the uk went to war in iraq based on ouright lies. no one in high office has been held accountable. the uk is really not an example to be followed by anyone, not even those who might think the iraq war was justified. the numerous war crimes cannot even be listed and are mostly unknown.
The rule of law is valid only in ISRAEL .... In West Bank and Gaza must be applied the rule of war with all the consequence ..... in a war
YHWH gave Israel its set of laws almost 4000 years ago. All that Israel needs to do to prosper and be free is to obey them. Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalaym!
aren't those the same sets of laws that say you can stone someone to death if you see them work on the shabat? sound too scary and extremely outdated stuff to me!
For Israel, absolutely!
There are examples of orders issued by duly constituted courts, high courts, that go ignored. In particular, orders having to do with demolitions and occupations and who is allowed to use roads and who is not come to mind, not to mention the disputes that are judicially settled that have to do with the orthodox nutjobs that get ignored. The Rule of Law in Israel is becoming a joke.
No one can tell us what to do. If we carry out a military operation with questionable methods, no one should challenge that. If we screw up handling a flotilla on one of whose ships are a group of men seeking martyrdom, because we are let down by our intelligence services, no one can question it. If we do in fact investigate national military calamities, we are told that officers are upset at being quizzed, and our political leaders ignore the findings of Commissions of Inquiry that provided blue prints for how to deal with the next threats. Our police shoot to kill 13 Palestinian Israeli citizens nearly 10 years ago and not one officer is charged or penalised. We are not willing to be accountable - to ourselves let alone to the outside world. And we can't cite our past and our suffering and the Shoah as justification for our unaccountability. We were once a minority during which we dreamed of being better than our oppressors and being the best our values taught us. We too easily forget being a minority and go far in the other direction and will not be queried. That's not tribal, that's the behaviour of a people abused, now become abusers - of their minorities and of themselves - and like all abusers we are in deep denial of it all. HELP!
pile them up go back to not just 10 years ago but maybe a century back and see what resonses your highly philosopical dribble will get by the way the door is open to you to leave anytime you want as Easy as you Enter Israel as Easy YOU cant LEAVE with my blessings
pile them up go back to not just 10 years ago but maybe a century back and see what resonses your highly philosopical dribble will get by the way the door is open to you to leave anytime you want as Easy as you Enter Israel as Easy YOU cant LEAVE with my blessings
It's to do with honesty - to yourself if not to anyone else. What do you see when you look in your mirror each morning? Have you really got such a clear conscience, or is it that what this article and my comments have made it hard for you to keep quiet. That's a very good start. Now think.
...is that Israel could be "relinquishing" the rule of law as generally practiced in the "Western World"--and opting for the rule of law as generally practiced in the "Middle East"--sort of a "When in Rome" approach--which surely has both its "pluses and minuses."
Palestinians foster one single thing. Destroying the zionist state. Israelites foster and expect one single thing: that palestinians would finally decide to create a disarmed state in most of the West Bank and all Gaza. Fair enough. Israel has not annexed legally or illegally. At the end of the day, all post 67 territories acquired in a defensive war are negotiable. It is clear indeed, that part of them will be finally annexed ( settlement blocs and parts of east Jerusalem) and that will demand a land swap. That is the whole story. In exchange for peace, fully recognition of the jewish state of israel and resettlement of refugees in the "new palestinian state" , the Palestinians would be finally entaitled to statehood, something they have not enjoyed to this day. In that state, they will be able to reject jews as citizens, and kill each other in a civil war. Nobody will intervene. They will be sovereign to suicide. Fair enough.
The illegality of Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory (the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza) are illegal under International Law. This is not negotiable.
Since Oslo Palestinians and Israelites have been negotiating about ...territories Which territories????? West Bank and Gaza. When negotiations resume, any outcome resolved by the two parts will be accepted by the International Community. The most likely outcome is that Israel will retain settlements blocs. In other words the border will be redrew. International Law in this case seems to be highly irrrelevant.
Yes? Israel was recognized by the borders of UNGA Res181. STILL enshrined in the Declaration of a Jewish State. Israeli sovereignty is no more, no less. Even Some Some folk sure have active bile ducts
With no constitution, no bill of rights, and no forced compliance with high court rulings, the politicians of Israel are free to make things up as they go. They make all manner of stupid and vindictive laws aimed at their Arab opponent MK's as well as anyone else thet annoys them. The result is a very amateurishly run nation propped up by America. This is the modern face of Israel. This is what we have come to expect from Israel.
Great cities, a full representative democracy, liberal rights to all. Art, industry,creativity....and besides that....Israel has nothing against minarets or burqas. And what about the imperialist America??????Ughhh America' s founding fathers despised one single thing: "democracy". They even call it "democratic faction". Israel is probably more democratic that the United States. A representative democracy has governance problems but in some sense is more democratic than a presidential system.
Being a religious state where citizenship is largely based upon religion, and where civil marriage is strictly forbidden, is not what I'd call a success, at least not by Western standards. The lack of peace in a country that lives more or less like an enclave cut off from the reality of the region where it is located is not a success either.
The USA has been around since 1776. Your main enemy was England...across a vast ocean. But you did not take long to make new enemies with the native Indian population. As a result you also put in stupid and vindictive laws and put the indians onto resevations. Later you followed up with a civil war which changed the country for the better. All this happened without the world watching hour by hour. Israel is young and is by all the signs also heading to a civil war. It will not be as murderous as yours but the outcome will be for the better.....something even you will admire.
Having complete press censorship alone would be a sign for an undemocratic state for most people. The influence of religious groups (Israeli citizens having to travel abroad to get married) is also rather undemocratic and reminds me of Iran. It is getting increasingly harder to see the democracy among all that.
It looks a quite western society. Even Jerusalem which is very multicultural looks quite modern. This type of integrist "Jewish state" indeed looks quite similar to any secular western democracy. If you mean that Israel is a theocracy and Iran is a theocracy, I would suggest that they look quite different. You Allegra would sure prefer to live in Israel than in Iran or Ramalah. Indeed, there is no peace but.... there is no war and terror has been basically curbed down . Western Europan cities or N York are not less threaten by terrorism than T Aviv. Furthermore if there is something disturbing..... is that Tel Aviv 'frikies' don't even know where Gaza is. This is indeed disturbing....
Here's your new slogan, "Least Repressive Dictatorship, Posing as a Democracy, in the Middle East".
sorry, not TODAY'S israel. Jews have full rights, non-Jews, even if they are citizens do NOT have the same rights. As labor, kadima and likud have said many times. "Isreal is a state for all Jews, not for all its citizens"
...in the last sentence of your post would seem to be that (a) the settlers lose, (b) that they do not fight to the last person, and (c) that the country that emerges is finally more or less an "equal opportunity for all" place--which achieves peace with its neighbors. (Then again, I don't read minds--only try and connect the available dots.)
The latest draft law for Israeli citizens who want peace more than land makes promoting the boycott of firms based in the occupied West Bank punishable. Boycott used to be thought of as a non-violent way of protesting injustice - it is still considered thus in democratic countries. Basically it's left to each individual to decide whether he or she wants to boycott something. But you're not going to be allowed to admit it or encourage it and your fine money, 30,000 shekels if I understood correctly, will go to the firms you are boycotting (well.... no doubt only part of it, but who's worried about where the rest will go?). In other words, the excuse during the violence was Palestinian violence, to which our violence was said to be merely self-defence. Now that peaceful resistance is the weapon, and now that Palestinians and Israelis who prefer peaceful coexistence to perpetual strife are working and protesting together non-violently, non-violent protest will be punishable. Reminds you of that Pastor Niemoeller poem? Not a very original thought these days; it seems to remind everyone of it.
lots of accusations, little explanation
If the rule of law doesn't suit Laor, he does more than thumbs his nose at it. He writes illogical op-eds to try and make a point. He again ignores the very salient point that the Palestinians are not only much worse than Israel, but they are also the true apartheid regime in the region. Laor previously wrote that Israel is worse than the old South Africa. Yet he doesn't write that the Palestinians are officially apartheid - Jews are simply not allowed to be Palestinian citizens, hold office, vote, or own land. In fact, Palestinians voted in a death sentence for any Palestinian who sells land to a Jew. And Laor calls Israel apartheid? Get with it - expose the Palestinians for what they really are.
It's Israel illegally acquiring Palestinian territory by war and illegal annexation. What have the Palestinians of Israel's ? NO THING.
"Jews are simply not allowed to be Palestinian citizens, hold office, vote, or own land. " A bunch of lies. There is at least one Jew on the Fatah central committee. Your mistake is to confuse Jews with Israelis. They are not the same legal entities.
"Jews are simply not allowed to be Palestinian citizens, hold office, vote, or own land. " A bunch of lies. There is at least one Jew on the Fatah central committee. Your mistake is to confuse Jews with Israelis. They are not the same legal entities.
"Jews are simply not allowed to be Palestinian citizens, hold office, vote, or own land. " A bunch of lies. There is at least one Jew on the Fatah central committee. Your mistake is to confuse Jews with Israelis. They are not the same legal entities.