What to do with Ahmadinejad

Mr Karl hits the target and said what many people believe is justice

Its nice to see that arab people defends Iran's president. His real intentions are not only to wipe Israel from the map, He also wants to attack and to get the Oil reserves in the Persic Gulf. After what you call "the israeli ocuppation" you will have to live under Irani ocuppation. Thats the problem with you guys, you cant see far away from your own nose

thank you so much for your encouraging words. May the light of tranquility rest ever upon you. -massoud

Georges you said.. “i do not know why we as Arabs should accept an out of the blue colonization of Palestine from Zionists who their only excuse is that 5000 years ago they lived their and that gives them a divine right to do so” I say: The Jews last had a country a little bit less than 2000 years ago in the land of Israel. Not the 5000 you find so dismissive. After Romans kicked most of them out (in 135 CE, I believe), they immediately started to filter back in. From then until now, Jews have continued to live in this land. While no other autonomous rule governed the land between the Jordan and the Mediterranean (between 135CE and 1948CE), many Jews, over many centuries, have considered it their home. Any framing of the current conflict that ignores the ancient and enduring presence of Jews and Jewish culture in the holy land is ignorant at best and, more likely, intentionally misleading.

Iran seeks a nuclear showdown with America. In the Iranian view, Israel exists only as an American colony. They wouldn't mind "liberating the Shia" of the oil-producing Gulf States, by transferring those regions to Iranian control, either. No doubt they'd like to kill off a bunch of Sunnis as well.

I totally disagree with you. He is an anti-semite and he does deny the Holocaust and has already mentioned 2 or 3 times. Furthermore, you forgot to mention that he wants to wipe Israel of the map. Obviously, I not judging an entire nation but the citizens of Iran will suffer severely for his disgusting comments.

The Middle noawdays sremms from the Islamist quest to annihilate Israel, as led by militant Iran, which manipultes Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah to commit .Sharon cannot resolve it by turning soft on these terrorists. the only way to solve this problem is to rub their noses in the dirt, and to terminate them and the theocracy presided by Ahmedinejad, just like other conflicts in the 20th century, created by other dark ideologies of extermination , such as Nazism, were resolved ar the root by physically terminating these ideologies, their infrastructures, their popular bases and their symboles.

Dear Golda, In Switzerland, France, Italy, USA, etc, there is no Jewish state, and Jews live more in security there than in the "Jewish" Israeli State. There is no need to a Jewish state. A state must care for all its citizens and stop being a hell for those who don't belong to the majority' religion. This is the only way to have peace. PEACE WILL BE THE FRUIT OF JUSTICE (Isaiah 32:17).

I do not think the Iranians would have tried to destabalise the region, the regime has shwn a clear tendency to keep to its own and not threaten themselves with adventures.However of course if Iraq would break apart, that is not desirable at all.As I said personally I would not have taken the risk to invade Iraq and I know Sadam had avery effective ring of protection around him,so I would have kept him on his knees,and maintained constant covert pressure on him, maybe in time something would have given and an opportunity for regime change opened.I have nothing against strongmen in the dirty world of real politic which we must play, but that Saddam was too far Ben Gurion he was wicked and degenerate, their is a line not be crossed, and I would have considered it a personal honourand my gift to humanity if as the President of the USA I could have brought the evil doer down.I hate people like him very very very deeply no matter if they are Arab of Jew or Serbian or Sweedish, I rejoice whenthe wicked are overturned in their iniquity.For is not" Dan a viper by the road, serpent by the way who strikes at the horses heel and the rider is over thrown" Regards Buddy

First, Iran does not share a border with Israel. Second, Ahmadinejad is clearly a dangerous fool, who bares close scrutiny. Third, Israel should leave the West Bank, foster the establishment of a Palestinian state, and prepare to repel any and all attacks.

Ahmadinejad's speech has been presented out of context yet again. You should not judge someone, let alone an entire nation, based on a few fragmentary quotes that are vague at best. I am certain that he did not "deny" the existence of the Holocaust and he is surely not anti-Semitic. There are many Jews in Iran, from the time of Esther as most of you know, and Iranians are very proud of their long history and many contributions. The State of Israel and the Zionist ideology that Ahmadinejad is critizising are a different matter and should not be mistaken as attacks on the Jewish people. Although I am sure many of you would disagree based on the comments I have read here.

I see, so when a swedish minister(priest) says that mohammed was a confused pedophile, that should just be viewed as a remark too? Eventhough these to seperate quotes cant be compared( The one made by the Iranian president is so much worse), its an interesting approach. Everything should not be taken seriously, as long as it doesnt involve islamic front figures? Just asking..

Dear Zeev, your suggestion of creating "one" democratic state has one major problem that you do not realize, how will things will be handled in this "one" country? G-D forbid if there is another 9/11 attack, will this "one" country dance in the streets or will it sympetize , will disagreements between the politicians be handled through democratic ways or gunmen will rule, etc etc. in other way, will this "one" country be handled Islamic way or democratic?

--rates are amongst the highest in the world.(UN figures published a few weeks ago). A bit like the Vodka "epidemic" in the workers paradise. Then the Soviet union collapsed.

He is another genius advocating return of Jews to "countries of origin". He might even volunteer to assist in the transfer of Jews who do not see clearly the benefits of being expelled from Israel. The minuscule minority remaining could enjoy the full benefits and feedoms of a Hamas/PLO type government.

there were in the show every human race you want, the were even people from vulcano, but there were no arabs. maybe this was a sigth into the future as the writer wanted to achieve.

Folks, Swidish Parliment has just announced that they have cut all relations with Iranian Parliment in response to this idiot's statements. Why didn't Haaretz cover this? For more info. see www.themiddleeastnow.com/iranthreat

"What to do with Ahmadinejad Uzi Benziman says: "Israel should take into account the pessimistic scenario and see the position expressed by Ahmadinejad as a real threat. Practical conclusions should also be drawn - to focus on this threat and as soon as possible to solve the Palestinian and Syrian conflicts, because the very capability of the Iranians to create a balance of nuclear terror with Israel changes for the worse its image and status in the eyes of its neighbors." Uzi ,you are wrong. The Syrians, Palestinians, and Iranians are bosom buddies working for the same cause...eliminating Israel, so solving the Syrian or Palestinian questions before tackling Iran does nothing and would just make Syria and the Palestinians think Israel is weak trying to negotiate a settlement. Better to let the Iranian president see with his own eyes an Israeli missile close up so he can say Kaddish for himself and rid the world of a future problem. Targeted killing: simple,fast,reliable and fully justifiable, Uzi.

Invite Ahmadinejad to speak publicly in Austria. Then, after denying the holocaust again, have him arrested (while still in the country) and he'll serve a 10-year prison sentence. I believe that the Iranian government might be too embarrassed to require the benefits of diplomatic immunity.

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I don't have time to converse today. I have just read your post. Thanks for the reply. I agree that it would have been nice to topple Saddam the dangerous. Supporting a military coup would have been good. But Saddam was a very "talented" dictator, in the sense that he created a very solid and reliable internal security organization. (Actually, a few organization.) I was worrying for years about Iran, and not only in the nuclear sphere. It was a zero sum game between Iran and Iraq. Now Bush gave supremacy to Iran. It is very conceivable that Iraq will break up and Iranian influence will extend to the borders of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. You could say: the US will protect them, but the Iranians don't need to invade in order to gain influence. It can be done by kidnappings, assasinations, etc., destabilizing the oil states regimes this way. We will be in trouble, and this can happen now with the Baath regime gone and Iraq dominated by Shiites. For this scenario I was hoping a strong man like Saddam (but not necessarily him) should rule a united Iraq. The neocons have caused a yet immeasurable damage.

why are there so many arab people on this forum who blatantly refuse to acknlowdege that this man is evil and does not represent the voice of the people??? why cant the arab world open its eyes to this mans psychotic behaviour, denying the holocaust and saying it is european propaganda. for gods sake if thats not madness coming from a president of a country then i dont know what is. and if the world does not take immediate steps to stop him we arabs, christians, jews, blacks, whites, coloureds will have to bear the brunt of his madness

Israel is looking for the UN Security Council to deal with Iran's nuclear threat, and I'm sure the US has promised a deadline for this diplomacy to end. An Israeli attack--in fact, any attack on Iran-- is highly likely to bring forth a massive Hizbollah shower of rockets on Israel. Israel might invade southern Lebanon again, and this time around the Lebanese nation as a whole might seize the chance to forge a peace treaty with Israel. Been there, done that you might say (reference is to 1982), but I'd bet on it..Syria will do nothing--it's just too weak. I wonder if the Palestinian Arabs ever wonder why Syrians have never fought in over 30 years to liberate the occupied Golan...As to the wretched Ahmadinejad,his arrogant smirk will soon be in the garbage can of history..The Iranian people (only half of whom are ethnic Persians by the way--Iran is truly an empire, aka occupying regime!)are repressed by the most primitive "religion" imaginable. Ahmanijedad and his controllers have just about made atheism respectable...Maybe strong sanctions might bring the economy down, and soon after the regime, but the world (and surely Israel)can't wait for nuclear program to turn "hot"...Lots of people poopood the threat of the "crazy" Hitler; I don't think they will now ignore Hitler wannabes....

Go ahead and send the Australian military in Iran alone. You think it will be a success? I see an Invasion of Iran to be far worse than Iraq. For one, the Iranians still have a military compared to Iraq who's military had nothing. 2nd, the Iranian militia Hizbollah is more extreme than any Iraqi insurgents. Third off, anything that happens in Iran will affect Iraq. You think the Shites of Iraq will continue cooperating with America and her allies (Australia) when they learn their Shia brethren are being killed? Iran would have a larger and more barbaric insurgency than Iraq ever did. Remember, over 80 percent of the Iraqi population was oppressed by Saddam, hence the military thought Iraq was going to be a cakewalk and everyone would be waving the beautiful red white and blue. It wasn't, Iraq was a brutal dictatorship, but now it's a heaven for suicide bombers. Iran will be far worse, and we had a small taste of it in Lebanon. Anyhow, it's not like Australia would go into Iran alone, they'd need the U.S. to lead the way as usual. Stop, drop, and roll! Think before you make such stupid statements. This Iranian president himself will bring his own country down himself. Just as their was a revolution to overthrow the corrupt and repressive Shah, I'm certain the same will be done with these new rulers. The U.S. is too stretched out in Afghanistan, Iraq, to be doing anything in Iran. The insurgents would have an easier time bombing if all three countries which are connected thru Iran are occupied and not all borders would be sealed. I've firmly felt from day one, we should not even touch the Middle East. It is their responsbility to clean up their own house. We have no reason to be involved or to be allies with Saudi Arabia and Israel for that matter. The whole Islamic revolution happened in Iran because we were buddy buddies with the Shah who stole from and repressed his people. The Middle East will have to go thru many more civil wars and coupes before finding itself, the same way Europe and the U.S. found theirselves. If those idiot rulers actually followed true Islam they'd have a just society since Islam promotes a social justice, a moral code (similar to that of the Torah and Bible), and punishments for crimes. Contrary to honor killings, that is not a religious introduction, it's cultural. Islam's only two offenses that were punishable by death when the religion was introduced was unlawful murder of another, and treason. The problem is not the religions. I have many Jewish, Christian, and Muslim friends who practice their faith's with common sense, and all get along great. There's just bad apples that the religions of God have allowed to join, and it is these people that are the problems. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are three beautiful faiths that have special characteristics that each old. When Islam conquered Palestine, even the minorities, i.e. Christians and Jews were not required originally to pay the jizyeh (those who couldn't afford it). Recall the leader or Caliph Omar payed it on behalf of them! This anti semetism, and Islamaphobism must be eradicated.

The new Iranian government makes al Qaeda seem like simians. State sponsored terror coupled with nuclear terrorism is very real now, with these new 'leaders' who will soon have nukes. Iran will use these nukes and/or give them to other terrorist organizations it hosts and sponsors. Something, indeed, must be done...

well Mariann I do not see how the jews "lived under their rule in Arabic countries without rights as they used to prior to Israel`s independence in 1948", this totally untrue , read please David Hirst"The Gun and the olive tree" and you will know this is only part of Zionist propagand. As for your opinion that Arabs should stop "feeding their ego" etc.... i do not know why we as Arabs should accept an out of the blue colonization of Palestine from Zionists who their only excuse is that 5000 years ago they lived their and that gives them a divine right to do so-eh he a strong argument indeed(!!!!)-. note please the chaos in the world happening if every minority demanded a state in a certain region of the world out of the blue because it had set foot their thousands years ago.....

It has been proposed by someone from Denmark that the best way to deal with the madman from Iran is to count and account for six million murdered Jews. Since when have the dead risen from the ashes to be counted by their murderers? Have you no shame? I'll send you a list of all of my murdered relatives, and you can spend the rest of your life researching their horrific, final days.

Well said Mr. Massoud. I commend you for your comments, and as said before, there should be more that think like you. On another note, war may be inevitable. The IDF has recently installed Mr. Haluutz as the new Chief of Staff, an Air Force General. This is necessary for an aerial bombardment. You need to look at a map as well to see that the U.S. has troops stationed in Afghanistan, Iraq and most recently Qatar. Iran is surrounded. War may occur in 2006, watch.

I don't if this ahmdinejad is an iranian guy or some israeli making a farce however , a racist state like israel and expansionist should never exist... why should the arabs support the european gentile-yiddish complex and the problems they had (Zionists -not all the jews there is a difference-).That is true maybe a land in Argentina like one of the plans was is good.By the way Uzi benziman is a twisted guy....

My neice's pet goldfish has more brains then this guy! Why is everyone up in arms about the stupidy he says? The truth is as plain as can be: in EVERY major world conflict its the "Religion of PIECE" (pieces or land, pieces of bodies ect) thats involved. Blaming Israel, talking about Alaska ect is a blatant attempt to make people not realize the plain truth. If he loves the Pals so much - let him take some in - he wont, just like Jordan wont. Hes just another arab nutcase. Hopefully, one day, the arab occupation of Israel will be over and we can concentrate on important things.

"unless the Palestinians and the Israels understand that they are idiot victims of Western greed." funny statement coming from the swiss, bankers to the world. isn't dealing with the nazis, drug cartels, white collar criminals any better because your crime is on paper. the arabs have a history of destroying othe peoples history. they can't seem to get along with buddists, hindus, jews, christians, etc. they cannot live with other people. therefore, a 2 state solution with strict controls on ALL borders is the only solution.

Ignore his words but watch his hands!Unfortunatly we are going to have live with a nuclear weapons that are in the hands of monkeys.Scarry but thats the ME for you, one freak trying to be more freaky than the next freak.Lets go Jews, lets get going to a two state solution so we can turn our backs on this vast disfunctional region with all its lurid manias.It is so worth it to give the Palestinians as state we will free of this stuff.Not to 100% but Israel will be much freer than it is now.

I had the pleasure of participating in the Osiris Reactor strike. Let's do it again.

Like many Islamic leaders, Ahmadinejad is in denial -- of history, of political reality. If he were to focus on the flaws in his country, such as lack of human freedoms that non-Moslem countries take for granted, he'd be doing his people a real service. As Irshad Manji has pointed out in The Trouble with Islam Today, Islamic societies have difficulty moving out of the dark ages into modernity. That's the real problem that has to be addressed.

In response to your question of last night.If I was sitting in the Presidents I probobaly would have not done the invasion of Iraq because the thought of trying to sort out Arabs would cause me to adopt caution as the better part of valor.I cant wait for Israel to finally free itself of the ME via a two state soltuion so occupying millions of Arabs is not my usual modus operandi.I would have however kept the sanctions and the no flight zones, and I would have begun a serious covert operation of sabotage ,subversion and assasination when the opportunity presented itself.My goal would have been to stimulate a coup by less psychopathic elements in the monster regime willing to take a moderate line in return for the easing of sanctions. Failing that the idea would be to keep Saddam as weak as possible.Saddam proved to be more of a threat to regional stability than Iran ever did in the end untill now with the nuclear thing.Also I use the term Hitlerian as description of the nature of the regime, which means that doing deals with people so profoundly disturbed, as pathologicaly dishonest as those types are is in my opnion not good policy.Regimes like saddams will shoot your mother in front of your face as soon as invite you for tea and smiles.It is like dealing with highly deranged criminals.I would have worked to keep Saddam weak as possible,at the same time take the long view and try to overthrow him somehow and install a more "buyable" crew of monsters.Regards Danite

And the Arabs don't trust us, look back in history, its the Arabs who killed millions of us. THE GAME WORD IS "pALESTINIANS" BUT THE REAL PRICE is "OIL" and the midle East. Everyone is going around it but none wants to admit it. Israel should not get involved with the Hiatollah, that will give them legitimacy; give them time they will colapse on their own, sooner or later. Israel can't prevent Iran from having its own nuclear development. Iran is not Iraq;or Afghanistan, it will take all the world powers and then some. I can tell you what to do with Khameney, and his gang , now that will help, but don't declare war on the people of Iran you will lose. America and Israel didn't not learn, don't go to war with 200,000 people to change one man, just eliminate the man, its to simple isnt it.

by creating one state and allowing the right for refugees to return to israel means that there will never be a jewish majority in israel again. its all about demography! how can we have a jewish state when they will just become the minority again in an arab country, might as well go back to 1920. not a good idea. two state solution. arabs dont want to be ruled by jews and vica verca

khaliad we are talking about a man who says the holocost never happened and Jews should be expeled from Israel HE IS THE THE THE PROBLEM OPEB YOUR EYES

massoud, it is amazing to hear something like what you just said. being jewish and having just returned from a trip in israel i feel very connected with the land. but i know that as much as i love israel, so do the palestineans. so i am 100% backing the right for a palestinean state under the correct circumstances for both parties involved. it just gave me a lot of hope to hear what you wrote here because after people like kalid you kind of forget that not everyone views that same opinion. so thank you for reminding me that there is a lot of hope for both parties and we should only strive for peace among us...it could happen if we make it happen!

Israel knows exactly where it stands in the Arab world. The peace is a farce. I did not hear a single condemnation from the Arab world on Iran's remarks. That is because they all agree! By doing nothing the west, including Israel show only weakness.

"The blast and secondary fallout would kill huge swathes of people in the Palestinian areas, Jordan, Egypt and that`s not to mention damage from any retaliatory strike from Israel." - Marion While I think anyone who casually recommends nuclear attack is several cards short of a deck; you are wildly exaggerating the effects of nuclear weapons. Much would depend upon what size, how many, and how they were fuzed.

Ahmadinejad as well as most Arabs world wide, unfortunately, want the Jews to be second class citizens again, in a position when they are dependent on Germans or Canadians, etc. They are so used to seeing Jews live under their rule in Arabic countries without rights as they used to prior to Israel's independence in 1948, that they can not accept the idea that things have changed remarkably since those times. Israel kicked their butt in all wars against it, none of which it started, by the way. So what now? After the Arabs have lost consistently, the only solution that comes to their mind is relocation. This is idiotic in my opinion. Stop living in the past, do something to impress the humanity other than killing for revenge. You lost and the whole world is aware of that. Stop feeding your ego. Isarel will always be in its historic land, at which, by the way, Jewish people have as many roots if not more, as the Palestinians.

we all saw what happened last time major powers in the world decided to follow a policy of appeasement.....WW2. can we just attempt to learn from history's mistakes?

I understand that the people of Iran may be peace loving, but sometimes you have no choice. The people of that country can choose between taking down their ugly regime themselves, or waiting until others have to do it for them. It won't be pretty either way. But is there any other road to which we are all going down together?

Out of a sense of guilt for colonization, the Palestinian arab people were in 1947 offered a state, something they never had before. Because of their Arab brothers they rejected the offer and started a war, and are now left with nothing. Therefore it is only logical that the Arab states who committed the crime of depriving the Palestinians of a state should create for them a state out of their land. This means Sudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lybia etc. If they don't do it, we Iranians will have to wipe these criminal robber countries off the map.

The only answer Israel and the West can give to Ahmaddinejad is the creation of one democratic state in Palestine/Israel, allowing the return of the Palestinian refugees home and giving all the inhabitants equal rights for all, regardless of their religion. By so doing, Iran will have no reason to attack Israel and its arguments that Israel persecutes the Palestinians will be meaningless. Such a solution will give a good example of democracy in all the Arab and Islamic countries. Furthermore, it will stop the progress of anti-semitism in the world and give more security to the Jews worldwide. Such a solution has one single huge disadvantage: weapons' traders, mainly in the West, will have less money. Therefore, Western politicians will never accept it. The West needs the war in the Middle-East to continue selling its weapons. Therefore, there will never be peace in the Midddle-East.... unless the Palestinians and the Israels understand that they are idiot victims of Western greed. PEACE WILL BE THE FRUIT OF JUSTICE (Isaiah 32:17).

Ex president Carter continues to trot the world hobnobbing with dictators and contradicting American policy. He has forgotten obviously that he brought this whole Islamic fundamentalist nightmare on the world by his lack of courage and leadership in the late 70's.

Karl, Jews lived in what is today Israel and the other parts of the Arab peninsula for thousands of years. This is their land of origin. This is the land where a Jewish presence never ceased. They have established many kingdoms and finally a democratic state called Israel where Jews and Arabs can live in peace together and they do. Ther are many Israeli Arabs who enjoy a western style democracy. While a woman can not drive a car in Saudi Arabia an Israeli Arab woman obtained her pilots licence. In contrast in the Arab countries such as Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt where once there were large Jewish comuities there are none now because they were kicked out of their homes and forced to leave without their properties as refugees. Thats because Arabs - Muslims could not leave in peace with their Jewish citizens. As history shows, we the Jews can leave in peace together with our Arab - Muslim brothers and sisters. We do it in Israel.

talk is cheap. netanyahu called for preemptive strike against iran. this was widely viewed as political manuevering within a post-sharon likud. the larger problem with the Iranian president is that his calls for annhilation of israel encourage Hizbollah and Palestinian radicals to kill and kill often. on the other hand , as he sees it, Israel stands with its sharpened knife hanging over the whole of the palestinian people , who are basically defenseless if and when Israel decides to bring the blade down. that's the best and most rational interpretation to put on his repeated incendiary comments, and it assumes he really cares about the plight of the palestinians. i don't know if that's a correct assumption, or if he's just venting his irritation / rage over recent Hizbollah setbacks in Lebanon viz Israel at the border, and seeing a weakening Syria, which in turn weakens Hizbollah and, again in turn, weakens Iran itself as a power in the region.

This is the same retoric we have heard from the Arab world for decades. The only way to shut them up is with force. Israel and/or the US need to take this threat seriously. We all know how this should be taken care of, however politicaly this may be incorrect.

well said brother,keep going

I think Israel should show the world that if they are not going to deal with Iran now then Israel will. If Israel gets started, Iran will go back 100 years quickly. Iran will regret that day. In my opinion, I have no idea what everyone is waiting for. Iran needs to be dealt with today. Tomorrow will be too late for everyone.

Ahmadnejad is a true Muslim, who reflects the Muslim party line. Israel is an intrusion of Dar ul-Harb (House of War) into Dar ul-Islam (House of Islam). As such, it must be destroyed. Ahmadnejad is simply stupid enough (Persian nickname: "Antar" - "monkey") to state this outright. The number of Iranian Muslims who die in an effort to destroy Israel is irrelevant. This is also why Arabs generally reject Israel. In the long run, the only way for Israel to live in peace is to destroy Islam. In the meantime, Israel has to prepare for every contingency, knowing this about Iran and Islam. For more information about Islam, visit Faith Freedom International at http://www.faithfreedom.org. BTW, the people of Iran are becoming less and less Muslim. Mosque attendance is lower than before the Islamic Revolution.

Let's nuke him!

This guy is the best PR man for Israel since Saddam. Iranian President Ahmadinejad offers a window into the soul of a Muslim fundamentalist, so the whole world understands better the people Israel must deal with. Most Persians are probably nauseated by his statements. Don't worry, they will get rid of him soon enough. Meanwhile, Israel should milk this PR opportunity for all its worth by emphasizing the link with Palestinian Hamas and Jihad.

The last chance that the palestinians had a chance to have their state in the west bank and gaza was during the last weeks of the Clinton administration. Dennis Ross's book 'The Missing Peace' clearly shows what Barak had offered, the entire West bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem and the control over the Al Aksa Mosque. Yet the Palestinians refused to accept it. Israel has been ready for peaceful coexistance with its Arab neighbours and to peace with the Palestinians since 1948. We are still waiting for a serious partner in peace who would stop the violence perpatrated by the terror organizations, un arm them and sit down to negotiation table. It is not easy. On our side Rabin lost his life, Barak lost his political career and for pulling out of Gaza Sharon also is taking a risk with his political career and his life but they are doing it for peace. Is there a leader among the Palestinians who would take such a risk and un arm the terrorists so that negotiations can start? we have not seen one yet.

Israel has now no choice but to destroy Iranian nuclear sites, and the sooner it strikes the better regardless of the consequences. This Iranian idiot is asking for it and Jews are now in a position thank god to do it- go for it Israel!!

when one comes to kill you, you must kill him first. perhaps jews should wait to be killed ? Try to be a little objective.

Ahmadinejad the Mad and his gang must be taken out with all possible speed whether by an assassins bullet or a military strike. The longer we let this cancer fester the more dangerous to the world in general and Israel in particular.

the Iranian leader has done more for Israel than the zionists and our supporters could ever do. Do you remember seeing so many countries backing Israel? I sure dont ! I guess the Europeans still have some humanity left in them. let him continue with his rants......he is playing right into our hands. VIVA ISRAEL

The real question is what to do with world goverments that associate with the Ahmadinejad/Khameni. Israel should state -- IMMEDIATELY -- that governments that maintain any form of diplomatic and trade relations with a genocide-bent Iran cannot participate as Road Map sponsors. They can't have it both ways. Even Beilin seems to agree on the need to cut off Iran from the world. Then be prepared to ditch the increasingly useless "Road Map" entirely if countries with Iran relations (including the UN) refuse to either dump Iran contacts or leave Road Map involvement. Screw Bush if he doesn't go along. Don't be suckers, don't be Czechoslovakia! Israel is going to have to deal with the Iran threat by itself, anyway. Bush and Europe will wimp out. Time to cut the knot if there isn't a reasonable world response to Iran.

We need more people in this world like Massoud, who are brave enough to stand up for truth and justice even when it is not "fashionable" and who literally impose upon themselves a death sentence by doing so. Keep safe Massoud and I send you and all of G-ds children my message of peace and love. I believe someone can only be called G-ds child if he maintains the image of G-d in himself (as man is created in the image of G-d). And its not enough that he retains this image WITHIN himself, but he must also spread the Light of G-d to those around him through acts of righteousness and morality. So G-d bless you Massoud and protect you for all time. You are truly a CHILD OF G-D. Peace and love.

I don't want to argue and bringing to the table some comparable models. Politicians did it for the last 50 years, and the bottom line result is millions of lost souls. It sounds that the way for mindful people is closed and only fanatic -from both sides- have the final say. What I want to say is that, regardless of your side, what kind of God or religion that makes you accept to kill tons of people just to have that little peace of land. Whoever wins, that land is not sacred for them anymore. It stinks of the blood and flesh of innocent and killers from both sides. Again, Israel is better-off to be in another land where its people can have their own space.

it seems to me that most arabs are angry about everything and blame everyone for their pathetic circumstances. If the arab world were so angry about the sad state of Palestinian life, why dont their billionaire Arab brothers from Iran & Saudi arabia etc, give them money to build their state and better their lives? Instead they are rewarded for blowing themselves to pieces and encourage further their miserable existence. I think u guys are simply full of anger, hate and totally brainwashed people and the nothing will be enough to appease you except death. Lost causes...even if you get what you want, you'll then start fighting each other to death!

This site seems to be dedicated,to the publication of alot of drivel. While Israel's post-1967 behavior, has been counter-productive to say the least, its fundamental right to exist within the pre-1967 boundaries, is not in question. It would seem that Iran is "cruising for a bruising".

President Ahmadinejad is speaking as one who has the full support of Iran's Supreme Leader and his circle of intimates. Clearly the Iranians are terrified of modernist tendencies in the younger generation and wish to create a heightened climate of crisis with which to crack down on any possible domestic opposition. Iran is ripe for revolution and a war with the West, it is becoming clearer and clearer, is the mullah's only recipie for domestic cohesion. The radical clerics who are the real rulers in Iran know they are playing a dangerous game. Day by day we see with this gratuitious and dangerous rhetoric that they are more than willing to take everyone with them comes the day they feel themselves losing their grip at home. Begining with, but not limited to Israel. A word to the wise: By the time everyone in the world realises what is happening, it will have been too late. The old saying is that if you wish to have peace, prepare for war. Clearly this no longer applies. Prepare for war. Because as surely as you breath, war is coming. Whether the EU cringes in meek terror immediately beforehand is the only remaining question.

The world needs to show the Iranians that their "non elected nutcase" will only bring problems to Iran. He uses the self created hostility to Iran as a rallying call for patriotism. He is playing to his Islamist constituency and using them to force his agenda on the rest. Oil is not going to last forever and you can't eat nukes. Exporting Jihadists is not a great way to earn foreign currency.

(ring, ring) " Hello, Arik Sharon here." "Hello this is Assad, I need a favor if you don't mind, can you give me the name of a good Washington lobbyist? " " Yes Assad, I have several here on my rolodex, why?" " Well Sharon, we are having a problem explaining the legitimate Syrian policy of targeted assassination to the Mehlis investigation. " " Assad, that man was not a terrorist. " " Well, hey, that is why I need the lobbyist Sharon. Listen, while I have you on the phone, I have a question. If things don't go well here for me after your election, do you think I can become the head of Labor? I am eastern and have a mustache. And I know how to take care of party troublemakers. " " I will take it up with Shimon, Assad. " "Thank you Sharon, and oh, by the way Ahmadinejad wanted me to convey his greetings to the little satan zionist land usurpers that have no place in the middle east. He wants to know, are you ready to move to Vienna yet? " " Well Assad, thank him for me and tell him we will be visiting him soon enough. Bye Assad. " "Bye Sharon, and remember to ask Peres about that Labor job for me."

it is a nerve when ACTION is not taken against this creature he should be hunted down and put on public display like the animal he is...

Perhaps Muslims have something us Jews lack: the keys to open the gates of heaven where 72 virgins await all those who will surely fry in the nuclear holocaust ( men only! ).

And it is no surprise to me since Franzen is a documented anti-Semite. Franzen justifies the Iranian threats and Holocaust denial by parroting the "occupation" excuse. Franzen, the Murray brothers and others who seek Israel's destruction should not have the right to participate in these talk-backs. Franzen is not pro-Palestinian. He is anti-Jewish.

And it is no surprise to me since Franzen is a documented anti-Semite. Franzen justifies the Iranian threats and Holocaust denial by parroting the "occupation" excuse. Franzen, the Murray brothers and others who seek Israel's destruction should not have the right to participate in these talk-backs. Franzen is not pro-Palestinian. He is anti-Jewish.

and tried for his crimes agaisnt the jews including the blowing up of Israeli consulate in Argentina.

Repression of speech by Arabs on Arabs in the Yesha areas is something that has been reported in the papers frequently. I'm worried, chas v'chalila, that Massoud's personal security is not compromised by his political stance.

let him dig himself deeper into a big hole, a hole from which even the most liberal European leaders wouldn't dare try to help him out of...maybe even Russia, Iran's only reliable supporter on the international stage, would feel compelled to stop assisting iran's nuclear efforts...

Jani, how about Muslims to relinguish their cities of Mecca and Medina. Why not create a new state somewhere in Africa, with new holy places. Let's name the mountain Kilimanjaro the new Mecca. This proposal makes as much sense as yours. Jerusalem and Israel are central to Jewish people and Judaism.

Altough both are intelectuals , what links them together is ignorance. Of course one has done something with his life...the other has an obsession linking palestinian failures and shortcomings to the success of jews ...as if before Israel palestinian had a flourishing civilisation . on the other hand i still say give the palestinian a state because its their natural rights.

Irans President has once again reiterated his Holocaust denial. Since this event was way too real as the tattoo on my mothers arm attests, I wonder if his outbursts are caused by some other factor. After some research, it seems that underwear that is too tight could cause people to spout nonsense. Therefore, in order to defuse this situation, I am sending the President of Iran a few pairs of boxer shorts with smiley faces adorning them.

"Israel has to do all what`s in it`s means to destroy Iran`s nuclear facilities and eliminate the most prominent and dangerous Israel haters." Richard, If you're Jewish maybe you should move to Israel and join the "righteous" IDF. That way you can pull the trigger yourself.

I agree with Khalid, let's settle the conflict with the arabs and it will be over for Iran. They will have nothing to argue about and even the palestinian will hask him to shut up.

I respect you Massoud because you speak honestly and from the heart. The Israelis are far from perfect but the Pals worst enemies are themselves. It is tragic that so much energy is wasted on hate and destruction. Things could be different if law and order prevailed over chaos. It would stop chronic problems such as corruption, nepotism, extortion and a myriad of other scourges that plague Pal society. I wish you luck and take care of yourself.

the comaprison is still nonsense. And here is why. The Jews had nothing to do with what happened to them other tht they were born Jewish. the palestiains blow themselves up around children which CAUSES the IDF to respond. the walls, checkpoints, and all that...they were brought only becuase the arabs acted as they did. Without arab terrorism, none of this would happen

Do you honestly think that Ahmadinejad cares about the Palestinian people. It's just political conveniance and hatred of the Jews that makes the man tick

All those people who think it is a good idea for Iran to launch strikes at Israel are effectively supporting their own destruction and incredibly stupid. A strike on Israel would not be contained in a vacuum. The blast and secondary fallout would kill huge swathes of people in the Palestinian areas, Jordan, Egypt and that's not to mention damage from any retaliatory strike from Israel. So if the destruction of most of the Middle East is acceptable just as long as Israel is destroyed then you really are nihilistic religious fundamentalists.

Hitler told us his his plans in mien kampf in the 30's before he had the capability to carry them out. Now Iran has told the worlld its intentions a few years from when it can carry them out (after it obtain nukes). Iran's capability muts be destroyed before they carry ou their plan to destroy Israel and deliver nukes through terrorist groups to attack Europe and the US. This threat is real and must be addressed asap. God help the IDF, US military and others who be called upon to take on these crazed islamo-fascists.

Jonathn Freedland in the Guardian has it right - http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1666871,00.html Ahmadinejad and many of the Israel bashers around here have a lot in common.

This bellicose language from Iran's leader is dangerous to the entire world, not just Israel. However, Israel is on the front lines of this threat. Does anyone really believe that Ahmadinejad would be content to see Israel destroyed? No. For his goal is a Caliphate across the world. One step at a time. His aspirations are just as dangerous to Europe and the US as they are to Israel...and, to moderate, free-thinking Muslims.

Guys, calm down. Let us think about this without emotional reactions. I think it is not that bad of an idea. If Israelis want to create prosperity of a country, then it is clear that it can NOT be in the Middle East. If Jews, however, wants to live in the Middle East then it is OK to live side by side with Christians and Muslims. They always did throughout the history, and this is a fact that can not be denied by a mindful and just person. Those who want to create a country of Israel can do it in a place where they can perform their life without killings and tons of blood. I think it is a good idea to make Europeans pay for their faults. Even more, I think Africans would welcome an Israeli country within their continent. I think if the time goes back, Jews would not choose this land as their future country. Agree?

What to do with Ahmadinejad? Nothing. He is too useful right now, where he is, and doing what he is. His ranting and raving will aid those trying to negotiate a settlement on the nuclear issues with Iran.

Don't do anything to him. The idiot will keep on running his mouth, causing Iran to be isolated further. He is indirectly serving our interests... taking him out would cause Israel to lose its moral high ground in this dispute.

Really, Rodney, lets not ascend the horses of mad hysteria. Ahmadinejad is not a very bright man. Isolate him, condemn his statments, withdraw ambassadors as a protest, but do not make him into a hitler. maybe a Sir Oswald Mosley but a Hitler he is not.

You misread my posting. I was not using the phrase in the sense "if the Iranian government would be so kind as to allow....". I meant "if they were ever to allow opposition figures to leave the country for this purpose, which implies such an occurence would be highly unlikely under Ahmadinejad.

Once again, Israel's fears are being justified. Amid all the condemnations of Israel's responses to terrorism, the Islamic world is again proving its ability to adopt the worst and most insidious of Western bigotries. Here is a leader of a major Islamic nation with nuclear aspirations (which, incidentally, supports terrorist organizations) openly voicing his racism, along with his desire to wipe out an entire nation. If people cannot see how this underlines what a problem the whole region is, then they are willfully blind.

Israel should not just sit back and let this raving fool of a madman, make such statements. because this madman is serious, Israel has to strike sooner than later. this is very serious

Take him out.

No, my friend 1.Khalid doesn`t deny the Holocaust, nor does he minimize it. 2.he believes in a one-state solution à la sharing one state: Israel-Palestine. If educated Palestinians (or even Israelis or other people!) compare their situation to the Holocaust, they don`t mean this is exactly the same, that would be utter nonsense...but as Holocaust was a unique terrible disaster for the Jews(and some others), the Palestinian situation is equally a unique terrible disaster for the Palestinians.

The leader of Iran, Ahmadinejad, wants to remove the Jewish State to Europe. The trouble with that idea is that most of the Jews who currently reside in Israel did not come from Europe. The President of Israel, Moshe Katzav, was born in Iran. So the Jewish State should be removed to Iran, but please make sure that the Jewish State is located by the Persian Gulf where the oil deposits are found, across from Kuwait and Iraq. Then, we, the Jews, can control OPEC.

Let me tell you something, Paul and other guys who are arguing about the possibility of Israel's right to exist or not and other nonsense. We Jews don't need nor want anybody to make Israel look like a good guy, and we also don't need to justify our country's existence, and we don't care if Jew haters don't agree. Tajles, I feel Israel should take the necessary measures to prevent a new Holy War against us, I'm sure those measures have been taken, and hopefully they include, just as some so-called "critic of Israel" said, to blow Iran's president up in small pieces together with most of his close followers.

"At the same time, if allowed by the Iranian government, expand contacts between more enlightened elements of Iranian society with their counterparts in the West, cultural and academic contacts." And in the unlikely event that the Iranian government doesn't allow it, who's going to say BOO to them? You?

no win win that 4 sure

"end the occupation that started in 1967". Now it seems as everybody is joined behind this thinking. There isn't a single country, besides the occupiers, that is against it. Israel can do what it wants, but it can't get away with it. This new reality is begining to spring on the Israeli leadership. Not that this will stop Sharon from trying to surround the Arabs of Jerusalem into an Arab ghetto, The Jerusalem Envalope. That nobody in this world will recognize this action or grant it legality seems to be of no concern for Ariel Sharon. He can after all claim that the moon belongs to Israel, but that doesn't make it so. Once an agreement to share Jerusalem is signed, the conflict is over. So there you have two options. The perpetual conflict or the Peace for the future of the little ones of the region. Why should the children of Palestine not be entitiled to grow up in freedom, how come only the Jewsih ones are? How can anybody defend this?

No outrage, no shame, no dismay of the racist hate mongering over this event. Just excueses and rationalizaitons for the call to kill more Jews.

The Quranic term 'occupied territory' usually means an area taken from Muslim rule by infidels. That would mean all of southern Europe including Spain, Italy, Bulgeria, Greece and so forth. It would include areas in Russia and in Kashmir under pagan Chinese rule. It would include areas of central India. In such an interpretation, 'Palistine' is ALL of the area west of the Jordan River and many Muslims use this interpretation inspite of the lengthy history of the Hebrew state in the area or the lengthy historical Christian homeland in the area. Ahmadinejad uses this interpretation because it fits his Persion tribe's history of imperialistic domination of the entire Middle Eastern region. His tribe's totalitarian ambitions are merely an extension of those belonging to Darius and Xerxes. It is this totalitarian ambition, as it is now being extended to Iraq and Baluchistan, that is the real problem, not how the Peoples of the Holy Books live around Jerusalem.

May be one of the best solution, but may be late, is to develop new kind of energies giving significan less dependencies to Oil.

Dr Klein, We, the West, aren't making the stupid comments about the Holocaust and the destruction of a country-Iran is. Why shouldn't Iran be held responsible for the things their leader says? He represents their country. It is not the West's fault their economy is isolated. The US is a big country. And, we definitely know the country is willing to do business with anyone (68 Billion dollar trade deficit). If Iran wouldn't make stupid comments, then quit training and financing terrorists and we will do business with you. Continue to finance and train terrorists, and we got problems with you. As for the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor, ask the Chinese and Koreans about the Japanese trying to extend their borders years before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. By the way, "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve"- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

People still find it acceptable to call for the murder of Jews, which you apparently are attempting to rationalize. Unfortunately, there is a notorious history of people backing up their threats to bring harm to the Jewish people. However, unlike the past, Jews aren't going to lie down and die for the amusement of others. The issue is not occupation, but the existance of Israel that is a problem for the racist regime in Iran.

I think a great first step would be for Germany to go much further than merely calling in the Iranian Ambassador. Instead, Angela Merckel must hold a news conference and pointedly refute Ahmadinejahd's claim that the Holocaust is a myth. She must state for a new world generation, "No, it is not a myth. We Germans caused the Holocaust and murdered six million Jews and countless others. For the Iranian president to claim otherwise shows him to be unschooled in world history." Anything less is not in keeping with Germany's eternal responsibility to make amends for its crimes.

This declaration is unacceptable. The international community must react to this. How this words are understood by the mass arabic people, they in a large number share his views but the democrstic people and states must show this kind of words and behaviour cannot be declared. We must be and remain in a peaceful world. I'm not jew but I hate revisionism.

Nobody likes it, but Israel always takes the pessimistic outlook. And rightly so. Being overconfident in '73 was a mistake. It's unfortunate that the threat of losing another war is what has prevented (and maybe still preventing?) attacks by Israel's neighbors.

let me explain deterrant to you. without the nuclear option there would have been little reason for the US airlift to israel when they were attacked on their most holiest day in the yom kippur war. to prevent the "hail mary " play and the last ditch attempt at survival, the US opted to provide conventional assistance and in essance saved mecca from liquidation. the persians are threatening an offensive war. the actual use of nuclear weapons is as a defensive deterrant.

Ahmadinejad. Isolate him. Make him persona non grata in every capital of the world. Have Germany recall its ambassador to Tehran until the Iranian government offers an apology to the international community. This man is an embarrassment to everything that is fine in Iranian culture. At the same time, if allowed by the Iranian government, expand contacts between more enlightened elements of Iranian society with their counterparts in the West, cultural and academic contacts. As Benziman points out, a settlement of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict will go a very long way in taking the wind out from under the sails of this buffoon in Tehran.

i as a muslim think his remarks are very wrong and i hope that this middle east proplem is solved with peace not madmen. my father and me recently saw a docu on the holocaust and we were in tears of the suffering of the jews. god bless jews,muslims and christians and all people.

France can't even police its own cities. They certainly won't want to offend the Arabs. They're more afraid of them than they are of us. They know there's no flood of Americans immigrating into France who will live in perpetual poverty and challenge the authority of the elected government. And they know we won't protect them again. If France starts any trouble, victorious Arab troops will follow nearly every other of France's opponents in the last century or so in a parade through the Arc de Triomphe.

Of course there could be another means to mitigate the threat posed to the greater Middle East region by Iran. Some within Ahmadinejad's own government feel that he is stepping over the line by effectually reversing Iran's course toward stronger international relations. Securing these people as internal allies to succeed Ahmadinejad either before the election or during it, would aid not only the stability of Iran, but also the greater peace of the region. Ahmadinejad looks toward Iran's eastern neighbors to garner aid and support by promising protection and energy, but spits in the direction of his western neighbors by making international threats. Deposing his administration through any means is the answer that needs to be vetted.

What kind of reasonings one can sometimes read in the media! Common, the conflict with the Palestinians is what Israel has been trying to end since the pre-state times, for more than 80 years now. This is the most urgent, most serious, most immediate threat for Israel's existence, not some mad Persian. Even if Iran has nukes, it doesn't change the fact, that the most difficult problem in Israel is the Palestinian problem. Iran will get rid of the regime of the fundametalist ayatollas in the next few years. There are many intelligent Iranians, there is a considerable opposition in Iran and the current regime simply has no chance to stay in the long run. The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians will go on in the next decades, may be centuries, as long as the Palestinians remain what they are: an array of the private armies of mass murder and clans, driven by genocidal ideology and aiming for genocide. This is what the Palestinian society is and this is not going to change anytime soon. And by the way, if we want to preach nuclear disarmament to Iran, we must start from ourselves: invite Nobels winner ElBaradey to Dimona and other nuclear fascilities, reveal all secrets and start getting rid of the barbarous weapons of mass destructions, which do not deter anybody, which partly motivate nuclear ambitions of the fanatical ayatollas, which Israel cannot use anyway and there can be no possible motivation for using them. ElBaradey was absolutely right, when he said, that the very posession of the nuclear weapons must be considered just as slavery or genocide, an aberration, incompatible with the values of XXI century. All nuclear nations must agree on the timetable for nuclear disarmament. And I don't see the reason, why wouldn't Israel show the example, we are light unto the nations, after all.

Self-defense, even pre-emptive, is very different from offense. If a man brandishes a knife, saying he is going to kill you but not actually menacing you directly, you might withdraw and avoid the conflict. If he then kills your neighbor, you might even rationalize it and say "now his bloodlust is sated." But if he calls you on the phone and says "you're next," would you wait passively for him to stick the knife in? Or would you preemptively stop him (In NY, by calling the NYPD and hoping they pick him up first - or in Philly, by calling the PD but being legally armed just in case they don't get him first)? I know I what I would do. I'm not willing to hope someone else will deter a killer from his stated and demonstrated intention.

Western economic sanctions which wrecked Iran's working and lower middle classes is what brought Ahmadinejad to power. He's under tremendous domestic political pressure. All we're doing by strangling his economy is pushing this inexperienced leader into launching a preemptive missile strike against Israel and Europe. Pretty clear America never figured out why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Oy vey ist mir. Where are the grownups?

To the United States of America or the State of Israel....Lock and load and fire when ready...To Iranians...You have approx. 30 days to liquidate your regime or suffer the inevitable "fallout"...Iran cannot and should not coexist with the rest of the civilized world...salam amigos!

Hello Jake. I went on the Massada site and looked up Shamir. He is one ugly #="%^** I was very disappointed though, when I saw the UK Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks. A fine man of pure heart and great wisdom. That site should be more than a little ashamed of itself, defaming such a fine jewish leader. But yes I do see a few monster sized Anti-Semites on the site. Why I felt I should respond was Khalid, (the excuse for a journalist) keeps quoting Israel Shahak as an authority. That he is a holocaust survivor, makes Shahaks views all the more sickening. But the gall of Khalid to use someone who looks like an orthodox Jew in photos(long beard)and has such a jewish name to support his libelous statements is sickening. And rather exposes Khalids credentials as a balanced human being. P.S I have this morning looked at an article from June of this year in the Times,(UK) by an excellent journalist David Aaronavitch on the Left Wing in the UK. I posted it for Miss Muslima #75.On the Campus's forum. heres the url for the article : http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22369-1671715_2,00.html It contains quite a bit about Shamir amongst others and demonstrates his extreme hatred of Jews very well. Regards Ezreal

In part, you wrote, "If I were an Isaeli leader, I wouldn`t pay much attention to these remarks." Little advice could be worse. Such a step would likely place Israel in great peril in the not-so-distant future. In 1933, Wickham Steed warned of Hitler, "Today, as in 1914, we may think...we can stand aside. If we do, we may hasten the advent of the 'Third Empire,' and our own certain undoing." Europe and the United States ignored the dangers posed by a rising Hitler. World War II and the Holocaust--even if the Iranian President denies its occurrence--resulted. Israel simply cannot ignore the growing danger presented by a radical Iranian leader who seeks to "wipe" Israel off the map and denies the Holocaust. To do so would be to invite Israel's possible destruction.

Suppose we ignore all the evidence and grant that only one million people (that can include all the Jews and others combined) were killed by the Nazis. What's the difference? Does that strengthen the argument against the existence of Israel? Does it negate the fact that there never was an Arab state of Palestine? Does it magically erase the memory of all the oppression and murders of "Palestinians" by other Arabs (e.g., Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc.)? Of course not. It's irrelevant - in addition to being a simple rejection of established fact.

uzi benziman is so right when he says; "practical conclusions should also be drawn-to focus on this threat, and as soon as possible to solve the palestinian and syrian conflicts....." israel has become trapped in its own image building needs...and it has more or less ruined the very image it has tried so hard to project. exuding an image of strength was a neccessity 40, 50 years ago. but once it became clear that israel was the strongest militaty power in the mid east, then why waste time stating the obvious? by doing so it just deepened the hatred and antagonism towards itself. the stupid principle of "searing defeat" on the palestinian mind is a prime example of a policy which has done only harm and no good for israel. had unwise policies such as the frenzy of settelment building ,post the oslo agreement not been followed, the threats to the jewish state would not have been anyway as strident as they are now. israel has made the path to peace that much more difficult for itself, and it will keep getting worse the longer you delay.

I have a simple question for you: Do you agree with him that israel should be "wiped off the map" and that the hlocaust was a myth? Before you go on yout usual bbring everything back to hatin israel nonsense, just answer the question. I bleieve you are no better than the iraninan president because just like him, you deny hisrtoy and make outlandish claims

It has been this way since Cain and Abel. Ahmadinejad and the ruling clerics have power and money and they desperately want to hang onto to it. I sincerely wish that Palestinians would see that the rulers in Iran do not care about them- it is about their own power and money. They, Iran's leaders, are losing credibility with the common Iranians and with the rest of the world. Unemployment is up in Iran. Drug abuse is rampant and there is no hope in sight. As I said, they are desperate to hold onto power and money.

Israel made the preventive strike on the Iraqi nuclear reactor that prevented Saddam from getting nukes. How about this time around, someone else like France does the work, because a nuclear Iran is not only the problem of Israel, but of the whole world.

This man, Ahmadinejad, is getting progressively more radical and menacing in his rhetoric concerning Israel. It is increasingly obvious that his "peaceful" pursuit of nukes is a thinly veiled attempt to obtain the means to carry out his threat to wipe Israel from the map. Israel should not take this madman lightly and should take steps to protect their citizens before it's too late.

Ahmedinejad is merely communicating to the world the official position of his nefarious, usurping, tyrannical regime which would sacrifice his entire nation for the sake of a conflict with Israel. He is merely repeating the Fatwas of the Mullahs that surround him. Sadly, this is becoming the way that Islam is being presented to the world, because the moderate Moslems are simply not silencing or overriding these extremists. If this is the case, then I have to agree with the remarks of Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi: That Western culture is superior to Islam.

Once we go back to our 67 auschwitz borders, and a mushroom cloud glows over Tel Aviv, then Uzi can say we were well-behaved Jews on our exit, occupation-free. The Iranians, in turn, will have had a severe international "image problem", and will be Jew-free.

I think that anyone who compares Israel to the biblical figure of David is not only out of touch of reality, but also a victim of propaganda. A look at any set of international rules will reveal what anyone who thinks for themselves already know: Israel is as much a terrorist state as Afganistan was before the invasion by the States. I find it distasteful, and disgusting to even try to make Israel out to be the good guy. I do not condone anything that Iran has said, but this is a battle between two evils. To preach about either of them being good is a farce, and shows a lack in moral standing of the author.

enrol him in tel aviv university's sociology department.on the other hand he may become worse.

The so called Arab press is the greatest cheering squad to the Iranian President in this matter, by the way so are El Birawi, Dutch, Franzen el all

his suggestion of moving israel to alaska is very interesting. while it is dark in alaska for 6 months a year it is eternally dark in iran. brings to mind the saying; "there are none so blind as those who will not see."

give the scumbag a tour of yad vashem.

must we always wait for the first bullet to be fired before protecting our lives? we were threatened by japan and did nothing until thousands died. we were threatened by the saudis and again thousands died. now we are being threatened by an obvious madman with a history of human torture. let's not forget he was one of the leaders of the so-called student occupation of the american embassy. do we dare take a chance that he will eventually fit into the human family of values or do we risk millions of lives for the sake of our own values and assumptions? this guy has declared war, not only on israel but on all western culture. he has put a huge target on his head by his own actions. he is begging to be martyred. unfortunately, i support collateral damage in return for the overwhelingly good it brings about. the hundreds brought to risk in return for the millions saved will be worth it. it is time to take him out and deal with the rehtoric afterwards. btw, this moran cares little for the collateral effect that would take out the arab population in his holy war on the west.

Your email is truly a breath of fresh air. A couple of weeks ago I was contemplating never going to the Ha'aretz website again, I find it so left wing, and giving platforms to Israel haters from all over the world (not just from our enemies but also some very warped Israelis), I was beginning to think Israel didnt have a good friend in the world. And then, this morning, hey presto, you appeared and it has given me hope. If only there were a few more like you. Sincerely, Gillian, Ashkelon

All that this proves is that the Iranian president is a deluded, blinkered anti-semite. His views do not hold water. The mere idea of the perpetrators of the Holocaust giving up land for a Jewish state is ubsurd. No Jew would have opted into in 1945 and with the state of Israel in existence today there is no hope of it happening today. If the president doesn't get his act together he will make Iran even more of a parayar state than it is now. The Arab world should stop talking in meaningless rhetoric and actually help in bringing peace to the middle east. Maybe the Arab league to send troops to help the fledgling Iraqi government and help with Israeli-Palestinian negotaition. It's about time that they started to take responsibility for the region that they are so protective over.

Having read about Ahmadinejad's lunatic rantings, which seems to be very pertinent to the Palestinians as well as the Israelis, I couldn't find one official opinion about this in any of the online Arab media like Al Jazeera and several others. Has anyone found such opinion? If so, what is it?! I presume their silence is aquiesence, in which case they hold true to the Hamas goal of annhililation and not the 2 state solution which most Arab states and the PA officially support. Either that, or they're too gutless to confront Ahmadinejad with their support of the 2 state solution and disagreement with his attempts to destabalise the entire region, with a new conflict which will inevitably affect their leadership and bring about further civil unrest. I cannot believe the Arab press are politely ignoring these comments. Either of the 2 views above must be true.

or the oil spills in the Atlantic...

I suggest to whomever says that Ahmednijad's statements are just "outbursts of anger", that he then be dressed in a diaper, bonnet and have a pacifier stuck in his mouth since these kind of outbursts are for small children having tantrums and not statesmen. And for all the other true statesmen in the world, please excuse me for using the word statesman in this case. Regards, Michael S.

The Rattling of the Sabre needs to be stopped forcefully. Ah- MAD- inajad seems to be hitting all the rawest nerves of the Jews namely the holocaust as a myth, and the legitimacy of Israel as a safehaven and historical homeland for Jews to exist. Israel neds to undertake a high profile international campaign to highlight the very severe danger of the Iranian regime and the president. It also has to speed up the IAEA referral to the UN Security Council of Iran in its attempts to acquire Nuclear Weapons which is the road to possible mutually assured destruction of the middle east if not stopped in its tracks. TheCountries asisting Iran its its acquisition of Nuclear weapons nneed to be made to withdraw cooperation in all mattters nuclear until Iran withdraws its threats to the existence of a sovereign member of the United Nations which might mean expulsion of Iran from the UN and oither sanctions. It may not be 1933 or the Cuban missile crisis yet, but complacecy cannot be the answer. Israel meanwhile should move KADIMA with its relationships with reasonable Arab and international Muslim states and representative governments.

throw ahmedinejad down an oil-well.

Send me a 2 way ticket to Alaska, good hotel, a couple of tours, all expenses paid, when I get back I'll let you know about your proposal. B"H

Yoram..you really got me laughing on that one! Thanks, Michael S.

And just how many of those so-called 250,000 Palestinians where murdered by Arabs - About 245,000 is about right. They were murdered by Jordians, Egyptians, Syrians, and other Palestinians. So of course that means that it must be Israel's fault. What a crock of excrament

prove him wrong provide names,details of all the people that died during the time of suffering ww2 then from there you will work out that its been exaggerated stop deceiving the world and start providing the truth .show this and c the reactions thank u

that's all there is to it. this maniac should not have nuclear weapons, he obviously is an ignorant fanatic with a blood libel vendetta against all jews and is a danger to iran and the whole world.

Here's your list Aren: http://www1.yadvashem.org/remembrance/index_remembrance.html It's rather long. I believe that reading it out loud at a normal pace takes about 4 months. Having said that, to reduce Israel's right to exist as purely a result of the Holocaust is to miss the historical context completely. Israel is our homeland. We were dispersed from there by imperialist Romans 2000 years ago, many many generations before Mohammed was born. Other options for a Jewish State (including Uganda) were on the table 100 years ago (50 before the Holocaust) and were rejected then because we didn't want to be colonialists - we wanted to return home. Israel's right to exist is based on millenia old traditions and history and in its modern form is sealed in UN declarations. For an aspiring nuclear power to be denying it should be making the whole world, not just Israel and the Jews, very scared indeed. As should the level of ignorance displayed on this talking board.

El-Birawi, just for your education: the claim that Jews are "murderers" is an old Christian slander, aka the blood libel. Each year around Easter in Christian medieval Europe, it was pulled out of the drawer as a pretext to "avenge" Jesus' death on the cross. Often, scores of innocent Jews were killed on the occasion. Of course, the Christian blood libel found its culmination in the Holocaust. Now Moslims have adopted this lie, which first surfaced in Syria around 1840. On a regular basis, Jews are falsely accused of murder and it is a rather popular theme in the Arab moviehouses and media. Your unsubstantiated tale of "250,000" adds to the sheer unending list of antisemitic slander. Investigation of the killing of young Mohamed Dura, e.g., showed that he was probably hit by Palestinian, not Israeli, bullets.

Iran is on its way to confrontation with the West which will bring it to disaster. The fanatic, narrow-minded, ignorant, hate-filled present President of Iran will surely lead his people to disaster if they do not find a way to stop him.

So to counter the Iranian threat Israel should give back the Golan, divide Jerusalem, return to the 67 'borders' and no doubt have some sort of return of refugees - this is what peace with Syria and the palestinians means. And the next time the arabs want something they just have to threaten again and Captain Uzi will give more. Well, this sums up Haaretz.

and with same view also in Israel.......than nobody can stop the PEACE Process...and a future good life for all people in this region...

Yours is a voice of reason.

Aren-- To your suggestion that Israel research and publish the names of every one of the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, Yad Vashem, to the best of my knowledge, has worked its way to 3 million of those names so far. It is, naturally, a monumental task and not necessarily fully achievable given the state of records at the time, and the destruction of whole communities, especially in the East. And besides, what makes you think Holocaust deniers would give any more credence to such a list than they do to the mountain of historical and documentary evidence of the Holocaust?

Khalid, what in your mind is not the fault of the "occupation"? You blame and excuse everything on the occupation, as if Palestinians are all innocents, and have no control over their own destiny. Anyway, my coffee is cold this morning, so taking a page from your book, it is the "occupation's" fault ! When you say Israel should not pay attention to Ahmadinejad's comments, and the excellent article here by Benziman, you lose whatever small shred of credibility you have. You call yourself a journalist Khalid? Come on man.

First he says move Israel to Germany because of the Holocaust that "did not happen".Now Alaska?? Nuclear weapons?? that nutter would be dangerous with a banana.

Uzi claims that Israel has to "come to agreements with Syrian and the Balestinians" in order to have the world look once again on Israel as "David vs. Goliath". Is he serious? Firstly, the Palestinians and Syrians' hatred for Israel is the same as the Iranians, they do not accept any Jewish state of any size and will not make peace. Secondly, if they know their Iranian Muslim bretren have "the Bomb", why should they make peace, when they know that there is the Iranian nuclear threat to Israel to back up their violence and refusal to make peace. If the Iranians have the bomb after Israel has made "agreements" with Syria and the Palestinians, who says they won't use it then, also. None of this has to do with "occupation" as Uzi wrongly suggests.

the time to fight is fast approaching and both sides know it well the idf for sure has been at this for a long time bm

it will be a happy day (for me) when the talk- backs on any given subject -be it cooking or Ahmadinejad calling for destruction - stop inevitbly veers off to recriminations of "the occupation". if there was an article describing the difficulty getting bread to rise, no doubt we will see a post by "kahlid" explaining that as a result of israel oppresing the arabs, blah blah blah. Dont pull a Chomsky by turning the argument at hand around. focus on what is in the ARTICLE. A president of a soon to be nuclear iran has basiclly declared war on israel. and you blame the "occupation"???!!! tell me...if israel withdraws to TEL AVIV, will Ahmadinejad take back his remarks? will he admit the Holocaust actually happened? or will he bomb tel aviv to the refrain of any song that carrys the basic message "oops, we didnt think he would actually do it... i hope the nuclear waste dosnt drift into jordan"....

Well Ahmadinejad states that he wants the US, Canada or some of the European countries to give up land for a Jewish state. Duh! that's what the UK in fact did in 1948. Or did that never happen as well? The solution? Stall until they run out of oil...

It is easy to put an end to the claims that 6 million Jews didn't perish in Holocaust. Israel should resarch and publish the full list of names and backgrounds of every single one of the 6 million Jews who were wiped out during World War II.

Nuclear Iran is not only a threat to Israel and the west but also the Arab countries. The OIC meeting is an good example of how arrogants was mr.ahmed (no-nuke yet) which actually disrespects the host, saudi's king, as the agenda wasn't about jews. What if...etc. A Nuclear Iran will eventually unite the Arabs into one radical voice and this is a bad news for peace. Asia, Europe wont have the balls or will not interfere with the mighty Iran and with the crown on mr.ahmed's head there will be no compromise...unleashing his terrible suicide armies towards Israel.

... is mainly self-induced and has nothing to do with why Iran's megalomaniac leader is in a lather. He needs a scapegoat to deflect the world's attention from his nation's moral and ethical bankruptcy. The Iranian people must have the courage to stand up to the junta of the mullahs.

Pray for peace and seek it but be prepared for war. If Iran seeks to build a nuclear weapon do your best to shut down their program. As for Ahmadinejad's speaches the best thing to do is broadcast them....so everyone can see that the Muslim's do not want peace!

Peter, I sincerely apologize to you. I misread your message and thought that you were talking about Israeli responses, rather than qassam attacks. It was only after I sent my previous message that I noticed the error. Once again, my apologies. Michael

"Not caring who gets hit?" Why do the terrorists hide among the civilians? The usage of human shields has been around for a long time. It's unfortunate that these thugs are not the first to use the strategy and sadly they won't be the last. If you think you're an expert on Israeli tactics, then please explain why the IDF waited and waited before they got to Rantisi, allowing him to continue his destructive campaign, and only finally hitting him at a point when he WASN'T surrounded by children.

Uruandimi, keep in mind that it is the power and the effective use of guns that keeps you in place and that allows to steal and rob lands for your settlements. It is true that barbwired fences don't kill, nut beofre you were able to have those barbed wired fences, you use guns to shoot, kill and intimidate people, and over 250,000 Palestinians died as a result of the use of your guns. So please dont give me this crab about Palestinians being murderers. It will take us centuries to catch up with you in killings and murder.You contiue to kill and murder every day, day in and day out, as if it was a national sports. I am sure Israel sleeps very well, knowing it did meet the quotas set dor murdering and killings of Palestinians.

Karl, you ignore the reason that Israel was created in its current location or you are simply unaware. For 2,000 years Jews expressed their desire to return to the holy land, well before Islam even existed. Every new year we say "next year in Jerusalem." Jerusalem is the at the very core of our aspirations, the Temple Mount our holiest place. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Torah, never in the Koran, except by allusion. We include Jerusalem in our prayers every day, we must face Jerusalem when we pray. Nevertheless, Jerusalem cannot accommodate all Jews, even only those in Israel, hence one of the needs for a state, besides ensuring that events like the Holocaust, and other attempts at persecution do not occur again. Kudos to Massoud; I hope that your progressive stance spreads and we can one day sit down together in peace. You demonstrate that there's always hope.

Not caring who they hit.That is not murder in your books? Thev fact that there are not many more Israeli dead is not due to lack of trying.Are you surprised Israel hits back when almost all the people targeted are civillians Interesting how you know what goes on in the Mossad.

Good, well done, to Massoud, this answer to Khalid honor's the palestinians peoples and arabics.

Who doubts that Iran is getting nuclear capacity? Who thinks it's doing that for peacefull means. Economic sanctions work only in the lon rung (like they did for Rhodesia and South Africa). Israel has to do all what's in it's means to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities and eliminate the most prominent and dangerous Israel haters. There is no other reasonable chose. There is on thing that's worst than having a war and that's loosing that war.

El-Birawi, you say "we call it murder". Who is "we"? There is a saying: If someone prepares to kill you, kill him first. That is not murder. That is not "collateral damage". Just self-defense. BTW, settlements do not murder people. Nor do barbed-wire fences. But with bombs people get murdered. Now you know the difference. The next time you attack with the aim of murder, do not be surprised if you are hit, instead.

All of you - think about your words. It is one thing to support Palestinian self-determination and independence. But it is another thing entirely to be an apologist for the extremism and violence advocated by Iran's president. If you really want to assist Palestinians, then advocate good government, free elections and non-violence. But suggesting Israel's destruction or its removal to some other part of the world just merely reveals you to be an anti-jewish crackpot who is not to be taken seriously.

I call it getting the rotten apple out of the apple barrel .

I think clearly this man needs to be isolated by the world. I think the Swedish Parliament made a good step by discontinuing cooperation with the Iranian Parliament. However, I think the world protest needs to be taken quite a few steps further. I would prefer to see the nations of the world recalling their ambassadors and indefinitely severing diplomatic ties. This man is stirring up trouble that can have world-wide consequences. He's playing with fire and he and his supporters in Teheran need to see there is a price to be paid. I'm also in favor of doing whatever it takes to make sure that this country never acquires nuclear weapons. This man and this government are fanatics of the highest level and represent the "head of the dragon" of Islamic Fundamentalism world wide. Allowing this man to run wild, is not the sign that the West really should be giving at this point in world history. Regards, Michael S.

Muslims know that Al Queda attacks cant be traced to any particular country. Israel must beware of a horrendous attack that Iran and other Muslim countries will blame on Al Queda. Al Queda is the Muslim 'Trojan Horse' Israel must retaliate strongly when this attack occurs else it will be destroyed by stealth

Massoud, bravo. Your`re a man of courage! The Iranians were intelligent peace-loving people like you. I`m sure the majority still are, but, unlike you they are afraid to speak their mind. Ahmadinejad is a puppet of the extremists, that`s all.

Uzi Benziman's proposal is inane and out of place. 'Appeasement' will not help. These people are absolutely determined to destroy the Jewish state. They must be destroyed first, preferably by their removal from power by the Iranian people.But if not in that way then by other means.

Ahmadinejad do not care at all about Palestitians . He see Israel as a key obstacle to the spreading of his Islamic Revolution

Sounds as if Ahmadinejad suffers from personal frustrations stemming from his childhood.Birds of a feather flock together, North Korea now Iran ,who is next?.

This madman is a blemish on the muslim nation. I do not support extremism in any sense. Extremism has scarred the palestinean cause irreparably. Why can we not live in peace together with israelis? I have seen over the past few years that we, not the Israelis, are to blame for our suffering. It is this rabid unmasked hatred of anything jewish that has thwarted all attemps by the israelis and americans to reconcile with our people. We must wake up now befor it is too late. Where are all the civilized levelheaded people among us who should be outraged and calling for change. And by the way, Khalid, you are one of the extremists as well. Shame on you for your virulent anti israel spews of hatred. Its time to step up to the plate and come to terms with the real facts. Facts which people like you refuse to recognize as truth. You are a master at distorting facts. Imagine what good would come of you if you stuck to the cold hard truths that are too painfull for you to acknowledge.

I am sure in some drawers within the ministry of defence and the Mossad, there are files, Ready for Action , with plans to kill and murder a list of people stretching from China to Los Angeles. You can call it targeted assasination, we call it murder. Israel has perfected the game and I will not be surpirse if one day in Teharan, there will be an explosion that will kill the president of Iran and hundered others, you can call it collateral damage, we call it murder. Israel is a Murder, Inc.

Although it is not what everyone in the world may prefer, what is so wrong about achieving one's objective in an equitable manner? That is: If the Europeans and their US counterparts have in the recent or remote past caused suffering to the practitioners of Jewish faith, why not gran some of the land in Europe or North/South America? This would not have displaced one population by favoring another? Or, is it OK if the displaced population is somewhere else and not in your own region? Is it OK to allow possible alternatives to be expressed for suffering, or better to threaten or kill the one giving possible alternatives?

When there is such a thing as an independent country of Palestine and Israel occupies it, then the problem could be construed as an occupation of a country. There has never been such an independent country of Palestine, Arab or otherwise. Palestine isn't even the land's actual name - whether you accept it as Canaan, Israel or something else, Palestine is a fiction. The Iranian president is an intolerant would-be war criminal. Khalid probably believes what Ahmadinejad says, even as he hangs a picture of the Mufti of Jerusalem meeting with Nazi troops in World War II on his wall in a place of honor. Khalid also probably supports the Iranian president's call for Israel's destruction, even though while there have been ancient Jewish kingdoms in this land and modern democracies, there has never been an independent Arab state. Remember, it wasn't the Arabs who came up with the name Palestine. It was the Romans. What to do with Ahmadinejad? Simple: Do unto him what he would do unto us.

peace and love. thats the name of the game, baby.

Right now, it's okay to ignore. Ahmadinejad is making of a fool of himself and actually doing us a favor. Would the Swedish condemnation of Iran have been so strong if Ahmadinejad would've been more subtle? If he continues, Iran will be politically isolated. It may not be long also before the private sector starts boycotting Iran as they do us. If that happens economic hardship will cause his downfall. We just need to keep close observation. Israel should continue to strategize it's defense against a military threat by Iran. But for now, action is really not necessary.

You'd think he's bucking for a Nobel Prize here. See: http://freshhellnews.blogspot.com/2005/12/australian-envoy-iran-entitled-to.html

The Iranian President is not really the problem. His remarks, however unscrupulous they may seem, should be viewed as no more than an outburst of anger toward the enduring scandal of the Palestinian plight. When this plight is resolved, and Palestinians are enabled to recover their dignity and rights and lands, then such remarks will disappear into history. If I were an Isaeli leader, I wouldn't pay much attention to these remarks.

Can you do it? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!