Walking on eggshells

Truth hurts. For once, some had the courage to expose the jewish lobby. How the congressmen and senators are subservient to AIPAC spies.

Israel doesn't need suicide bombers,they have the IDF for that,perhaps you should read up Israel's dismil human rights record.I disagree,I think you live in a world of propaganda,you reaction is typical western ignorance,Israel does to the palestinians,what Hitler did to the jews,it is a very sad irony.Shame on us for allowing this to continue.

You imply: 1) that American Christian fundamentalists rallied en masse behind the Iraq war waged on behalf of Israel 2) that because American Jews represent such a diverse number of points of view, they can not all be said to have encouraged the invasion of Iraq. ergo- Major blame for Iraq must be laid at the feet of a monolithic Christian fundamentalist community. True up to a point. The fact is, however, that Christian fundamendalists did not wield the power of government to make that decision. They could endorse the action, but had no real organized power to implement it. It's the neoconservative Jews who had the power and influence at the highest levels of government. They made and influenced the decision, and were only too happy that the Christian fundies went along with them.

Post #96 'Mutual Abuse' makes a salient point, and all Hy can do is retaliate vapidly with the tired old accusation of "hatred" and the poster's alleged lack of education and intellectual incompetence. Give it up, Hy.

Ezer Reluctant as I am in saying this,you have some good points there in your response. The best thing would be to have a true Christian eleted in the next round. I don't have to visit the website you proferred,because I have extensive knowledge concerning the Bush & Family background--dating back to grandfather Bush. Meantime,"Hope Remains Eternal"Ezer,don't you think? I feel that Israel must not put all its eggs in one basket and diversify in their dealings with other people if at all possible.But,unfortunately we are hog tied to the U.S!So,for now the only one we can depend on is the good ole'U.S of A...

Bush is a pseudo conservative who had already betrayed Israel and conservative principles. He cannot be trusted. Republicans need to find a real conservative for the 2008 presidential election. Bush inherited most of his hypocracy from his father and his Jew hating secretary of state James Baker. Bush will sacrifice anything to please his saudi oil clients. Many Christians igorantly believe that Bush reads the Bible and hears from God directly as he prays. But Bush's action contradicts this. He is an imposter. Like Barry Goldwater (he became a liberal in the end though) took over the republican party in the 60's a real Bible believing Christian should become the next presidential candidate. http://www.bushrevealed.com

What comes out of Israel are many things you use and take advantage of and you are not aware of them because of your lack of education about the world. Its so easy to spot the hatred you spew. You are absolutely not aware of the money that gets to Israel is immediately spent in USA with many things that help the world. How could you know that when you are so wrapped up in the hatred you keep.

With all you said about Israel and its illegal stuff, I don't recall Israel sending in suicide bombers to correct the matter. It seems your method of evaluating differences of opinion is not shared by people of the human race! What do you recognize as being legitimate by the Palestinians?

Israel is in danger,even teh writer is saying it in the end. Because of what Israel and its likudnik agents did with the U.S and Iraqis. Conspiring, making people fight. Israel sick marxist psychology is enough to destroy itself. If you are a likudnik you don't need enemies. You are your own worse enemy. Lesson learnt from this article. Open your "eyes" Judah and his grandkids till 2006.

Iraq was weak or Iraq turned tail and ran very very quickly. Why would a guy like Saddam Hussein whose sons were killed by U.S. forces and found with tens of millions in cash, hide in a hole with a mere $750,000??? Perhaps the U.S. intel was so good that he had to run very very fast and hide. Or perhaps he played his cards this way, knowing that his missing billions would fund the insurgency. North Vietnam was also financially and militarily weaker than the U.S. but their guerilla war won in the end. Iran had Saddam as its buffer zone to the rest of the Middle East. Who is crazier the Iranian Ayatollahs and Ahmanidiot or Saddam??? My money was always with Saddam as a less crazy person than the Ayatollahs. Bushie played the wrong horse. No???

what does it mean to make HASHEM HAPPY? IT MEANS TO DO THE WAYS HE TAUGHT REGARDLESS OF HOW POLITICALLY CORRECT IT IS.. IN OTHER WORDS TAKE BACK ISRAEL, FOLLOW THE LAWS OF TORAH ALSO TO GO TO WAR WITH A NATION THAT TRIES TO PECK AND STEAL WHAT IS NOT THERES (ARABS) SO WHEN THE JEWS WERE EXILLED BY OTHER NATIONS THE ARABS SAW THERE CHANCE TO FILL THE EMPTY SPACES.... AND THOSE ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG....

In the last elections the vast majority of the Jews voted for Kerry. Yeah. The problem is the government.

"lavish billions on Israel, much less millions on Palestine" Mark.. what is it you dont get ? You are a christian, and Islamists want you dead cos you are an infidel. America stops islamists from destroying west/christians and jews hence big satan. Dont over analyse... just understand why you need to fight and who yr real friends are.

Bush-loved by his people???I think you are not well-informed. Yeah, there are still Bush-loving people-but there are enough Americans who have a brain, don`t insult those. If you want the earth destroyed and a nuclear holocaust, I understand you being a strong ally. Also there are many Israelis who don`t let themseves cheat too by Bush and his gangsters...and there are everywhere people seeing this too I guess(even Turkish people) he does well?Pollution?School?Health care?etc Gays?Patriot Act?Domestic Spying?Torture?No real freedom of speech?etcWhat do you mean?!!!

listening to Jews in USA many are so parochial that they think christian fundamentalists are more of a danger to jews than islamists...well actually Jewish indifference is the worst but anyway. biggest prob is leftwing who weaken usa ... islamists want to destroy christians, jews ie west etc... dont waste yr time thinking anything else.... just make sure usa wins

yes it is a big conspiracy with batman, robin, peter pan and mickey mouse all neocon zionists too

I totally Agree! Do not ask for money, please!

First of all there is no "steady decline in the standard of living" in the US according to all statistics I've seen and I've seen alot. Second since when does the US standard of living effect foreign aid? It doesn't. Third, just because you are anti-Israel does not mean that the majority of Americans are anti-Israel. In fact in a recent poll 74% responded in the positive for US support for Israel. You're full of it Mark. You may know something about weapons (or you are just making it all up) but not much else. Israel and the US have always been friends and they will continue to be friends for at least your lifetime so give it up. Even if Hillary is elected, even if Kerry is elected, even if whoever is elected, Israel and the US will be friends and allies. They were before your buddy Bush and they will be after he goes back to Crawford. It's one of those things Mark that you may not like but it's tough titties.

I don't consider myself that much of a Palestinian defender due to the affinity for deliberate killing of civilians (not to be confused with settlers). But I can't argue with any of these points. If Israel had money to spend on the settlers year after year, the US should have made sure it wasn't contributing to this warmongering activity. If that didn't bring Israel to its senses, we probably should have moved on to UN sanctions. The settlements were an insane overplaying of Israel's hand, at great expense to all concerned in blood,money and lasting hatred. Israel within the Green Line is 75% of the land under dispute, how can Israel hope to keep more than that and have peace? In this nuclear age.

I don't have the polling data on who supported going to war in Iraq but I'd be quite surprised if support in the US Jewish community was as strong as that among fundamentalist or evangelical Christians. It's important that people understand the fanatical support of many Christian fundies for Israeli retention of the West Bank, which they regard as a necessary prophesied step on the way to their Rapture and Armageddon. Without understanding their religious need for Greater Israel, people are likely to get an exaggerated idea of Jewish/Israeli clout in setting America's Middle East policy (and not realize how divided views are in the US Jewish community), with obvious implications for anti-Semitism.

"I hold Bush responsible for getting Iran to this stage. By removing Saddam, Bush eliminated the only local force that was able to stand up to Iranian designs." - Ben Gurion Not one smidgeon of strategic sense in the Bush White House. They are also hot to take down Syria, though Assad, like Saddam, was a minority dictator, with an unappreciative majority. Iran no doubt longs for the complete "Shiite Crescent" from Afghanistan to the Med. . . If Bush is thwarted in his desire to attack Iran, then Syria might well be the choice. There always was a faction which preferred to hit Syria because, like Iraq, it is weak.

"Mark, it is not clear to me that the US will do much about Iran. Bush would have loved to attack, he doesn`t know how diplomacy works, but the US is mired in Iraq and an attack is risky." - Ben Gurion This is why there has been an almost frantic series of Generals speaking out against Rummy and energetic series of leaks about our intentions to attack Iran from the Pentagon and CIA in the last 4 months. The professionals don't want another Dummy, Rummy, and Deadeye fiasco on their hands. "In any event, the Congress will not approve." - Ben Gurion The official position of the administration is that Congress has already approved of anything Bush wants to do by approving the 'war on terror." "But I fear it will end up with sanctions, which will be ineffective and not stop the Iranian nuclear program. It will also bring about Iranian (indirect) retaliation." - Ben Gurion Bush may be prevented from an attack. I hope so.

The BBC, among other news agencies missed that generous 2.2 billion dollars in aid to the Palestinains. They report that since 1994 the US has given only 400 million. And by the wording I am not sure that means since 1994. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4887226.stm

The main aspect of the US-Israeli relation seems to be that it is detrimental to both partners: 1) Israel drains the US of resources the US would urgently need to improve things at home. Additionally, the unconditional support for Israel damages America's stand all over the world. 2) By financing Israel's folly, the US "protect" it from the need to wise up. Without that support Israel would have to get reasonable pretty soon, if for no other reason then the one that it simply could not afford remaining a racist occupier any more. Hardly what I would call a friendship. Rather, a relation based on mutual abuse.

"Without Jews, American policy would be half the value it is now, and the 3 bn. dollars Israel is receiving annualy is merely a `thank you`. So far US has hugely benefited from Jewish wisdom, why stop now?" Yaakov helps me to understand why I, as an American, despise what America has become under the rule of Tel Aviv. Yes, Yaakov, thank you for destroying us.

just 3 examples: - 1991: operation "desert storm" during the second gulf war under us-president george bush senior: the arab states who had become allies of bush's coalition force threatened to leave the coalition if israel would respond to iraqi rockets falling down on israel. thereupon the u.s. demanded from israel to refuse from responding and israel didn't respond. - 2003: the bush-junior-administration had prepared a list of sanctions against israel should israel refuse to comply with a plan for a palestinian state. well, do i have to repeat sharon's "yes to a palestinian state"? - 2005: under pressure from the bush-junior-administration, israel agreed to cancel an arms deal with china.

When Sharon came to see Bush During the destruction of the Palestinian Authority earlier in his term, Bush made a few squeaks about restraint. so Sharon came to see him and straightened him out about who the Boss really is. Since then, Bush has done pretty much as told....so don't worry, Olmert won't have to explain that. But as a goi-American I'm sincerely asking that this time you don't request more money. I know about the unlucky business of Katrina occuring about the time as your leaving Gaza. Meaning you didn't get the two Billion you planned on. And I remember the NYT reporting that you were going to hit us up for 20bill if you left Golan (thank god for us, you didn't). So probably Olmert has big plans for our pocket books concerning the "convergence" project. But I beg you..Realize that we are broke. Every penny you take has to be borrowed from the Chinese(all our Social Security funds are spent). Be a friend. Show restraint. Be satisfied with the 3B/yr.Please.

"We in the US know that right now we have two great friends, Israel and the UK." - Jane Like the Master to his servants.

Everyone needs Bush . . . like a hole in the head. And don't you think he'll give you that for free? I reckon.

We have to cut our loses too. peace!

So does Bush!

Dear Saul, Give me any recent example when or where Isreal changed policy because of US pressure or when or where US stance towards Israel changed because of Arab influence. Harvard yielded to pressure and so distanced itself fromk the study. A poll among academics across the US, though, showed an overwhelming rate of approval of the accuracy of the study. As Mr. Sharon said (shouted) to Mr. Peres in a Knesset debate: "The Jewish people rule the US government and the Americans know it!" Isreal does not need Bush's support; Bush needs Israel's support. Greetings Fritz

Damn right! the biggest problem is American ignorance.

total nonesense

i wouldn't even call him a man?

What exactly is "making HASHEM happy"? How can be done such a thing? Can you explain us?

"US policy had the benefit of Jewish lobbying " Nonsense. Our congressional reps are beholden to the American people. The American people support Israel when they kill terrorists because the US finds it neccessary to kill terrorists. We are repulsed by the Palestinians' support for suicide bombers murdering civilians in malls, restaurants, and at bus stops. Palestinians and their supporters do not need to wallow in bitterness .... the very day that the Palestinians ruthlessly fight terrorism is the day they will discover support. Too bad their own lobbys are too ignorant to understand the mindset of the American people who find their "freedom fighters" repugnant.

Yes, US capital (secret or not) is Tel Aviv. and on top of that, US policy had the benefit of Jewish lobbying and support to correct a somewhat young and inexperienced way of dealing with things (e.g. Vietnam). Without Jews, American policy would be half the value it is now, and the 3 bn. dollars Israel is receiving annualy is merely a 'thank you'. So far US has hugely benefited from Jewish wisdom, why stop now?

ben Gurion Shalom,I love Assad because his intransigent postions makes it impossible to deal with him.Also the pressure on israel in regards to the Golan is no where near what it is with the Palestinians.The combination of these two factors makes me hope that if Israel can hold on to the Golan for another 50 years,the whole thing will be moot anyway.Just a little gift I would like Israel to get for all its troubles with the Arab gangs and hooligans over the years.Regards

Last time I checked, the Israeli PM did not state any intention to wipe Iran off the map, and does not support terrorist organizations with money and weapons, and does not preach hate and murder in the name of God, and does not fantasize of genocide against all Arabs or Muslims or both, and does not try to rewrite the history of WWII and the Holocaust, and does not call the truth a lie. Other than that, I guess your views might make sense -- to a brain dead person.

Ah, Danite, such incisive commentary, and you managed to contain your potty mouth. I am indeed proud of you. So, it is now "billions and billions" to Palestinians from a variety of countries- is that it? Could you name a few of them for me and for any other interested forum members waiting breathlessly on the edge of their chairs?

Talk about racist leanings,if I were Arab living in the middle east I would be disgusted with the super power greed driven policies,too much corruption,and all of it hypocrisy,why would any decent arab feel comfortable with the palestinian situation?,it's an open genocide,these people are living in an open prison and treated like dogs,it is human depravity.The palestinians don't have an economy because they are not given the opportunity,but then again,how would you know this? there is no accurate unbiased media in the west,only propagated terrorist communications.There has been no peace because Israel is not interested in peace.It is not our freedoms the arab nations dispise,it is our ignorance for human suffering.

"The Bible says seek and you shall find. Another words, one day the truth will un-twist your little demon possessed mind. Keep seeking the truth Adam!" - -John "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." - Matthew 7:7-123 I guess you didn't read the whole thing did you John?

""not to know is bad, not to want to know is worse, not to hope is unthinkable, not to care is unforgivable" - K We have many Nigerians here in Houston (particularly here on the SW side), but I had not heard that. What a wonderfully succinct statement of the human dilemma.

Jane, when it comes down to saving America or helping Israel, Americans will opt to save themselves. It is by far in Israel's interest to ensure it is ready for this change, and the decline in American aid dollars that it will produce. I can remember when Israel stood proud without American aid. Some 40 years ago I agree, but it did it. It could have to do it again in the near future, and it should be ready.

Look it up yourselves if you don't believe me. Danite is absolutely right in his assessment that the PA has been given billions and billions in aid. Allow me to remind you as well that approximately 70% of US aid to the PA during Arafat's time was pocketed by him or used for payola and bribes. No more. Let Hamas worry about aid to the Palestinian people. You wanted em you got em.

"As most Israelis recognize no matter who is president America and Israel are allies and friends who are committed to each other`s well-being." - Jane Jane, it is not that Americans will come to hate Israel, or even be indifferent to it. It is that at some point Americans will be motivated primarily by the steady decline in their standard of living and opt to vote for stopping that decline instead of spending what we have left upon self-destruction.

Living in the home of stolen money, Switzerland!! Ali Soudani, couldn't get into France to burn some cars??? Israel should adopt a policy of living without war??? How about you damned Arabs living without attacking Jews!!! 1948, you attacked, 1967, 1973...Who wants who dead??? Who wants who "annihilated". Your clerics and leaders?? There is no such thing as Palestinians. Where do you get that name from???

Why do you grace us with your opinions on this "imperialist dreamer maniac" website??? It is obvious that you are convinced with all your brilliant writing and opinions that Israel is imperialist and supported by the United States. What then is the United States??? Not imperialist?? Not sticking its nose in everybody's business that it deems are in its national interest??? To hell with Africa, they have no oil!!! I think you should keep a lot of your money to fix your economy, like we should keep out money to fix our country. Why do we then interfere in others business. Because we want something in return, no other reason. Not because the Americans like Jews or feel "guilt" about the Holocaust. There is something worth the $$$ billion price tag.

"A settlement with the Palestinians will help Israel chances of holding the Golan maybe forever.As long as Assad plays the big Arab on campus game Israel is free of any pressure to deal with him." - Danite Danite, I actually don't see how settlement with the Pals will help Israel withe Syria. Right now, Bush confuses international Islamic terrorism (like al-Qaida) with local terrorists like PFLP, Hamas, etc, having headquarters in Syria. With a settlement with the Pals, there will be no terrorists in Syria and even Bush will wake up. (I think, though, that he will be long gone by then.) Syria will look quite Kosher. I believe Israel needs to think ahead and settle the conflicts while it has a political advantage. After that, the cost will be higher.

Lets take all the Arabs like you Ib and silence them for about one month. Then lets cancel aid to Israel, and completely cancel aid to the Palestinians. Lets see what happens?? Israel can and will survive because although it depends on the U.S. for aid in the form of military cooperation and other incentives, it has a domestic economy and a proper government. The Palestinians on the other hand have NOTHING. Not because they haven't been receiving 2 billion per year for 10 years or more, but because they spend it all on terrorism. Why wean a nation off U.S. aid that is squarely and solidly their partner in the Middle East. Yes the Arabs have oil, but when they all go nuts and the Islamonutjobs kill all the oil sheiks and burn oil what happens then???

Why should Iran give up it's civilian nuclear program when Israel refuses to tell the world the truth about it's own illegal nuclear weapons,and let's not forget the bio and chemical warfare,talk about supreme hypocrisy.

"[T]he Bush administration has failed miserably to enlist any support for it`s intended attack on Iran" - Mark Lincoln Mark, it is not clear to me that the US will do much about Iran. Bush would have loved to attack, he doesn't know how diplomacy works, but the US is mired in Iraq and an attack is risky. In any event, the Congress will not approve. We will find out what the US will do. But I fear it will end up with sanctions, which will be ineffective and not stop the Iranian nuclear program. It will also bring about Iranian (indirect) retaliation. I hold Bush responsible for getting Iran to this stage. By removing Saddam, Bush eliminated the only local force that was able to stand up to Iranian designs.

If you want more friends,then Israel should reconsider it's human rights violations,and illegal settlements and illegal occupation,I will stand firmly behind the Palestinians and I will continue to lobby my government to look at the Israel atrocities.

If you add the money the europeans have given the Pals then it does amount into the billions.Your views on israel are motivated by nothing more than Jew hatred, all your pseudo intellectual talk is dross.You are a pervert thats all.Get lost you dont deserve to be amoungst jews.

let us concetrate on making HASHEM happy and doing his ways..... lets not try to appease one who says he is good on the outside but his works prove otherwise... would you allow a fox to guard your chickens ?

As most Israelis recognize no matter who is president America and Israel are allies and friends who are committed to each other's well-being.Although Bush is more deeply committed probably because of his religious beliefs, even those who pushed the boundries of the relationship, Bush senior and others have come through when needed.Israel and the US share common interests and all too often the same enemies.We in the US know that right now we have two great friends, Israel and the UK. All the others are dependent on fleeting and ever changing issues while those two are true and lasting. I can't imagine a time when the US would turn its back on Israel and as an Israeli and an American I am glad for that.

"not to know is bad, not to want to know is worse, not to hope is unthinkable, not to care is unforgivable"

The Bible says seek and you shall find. Another words, one day the truth will un-twist your little demon possessed mind. Keep seeking the truth Adam!

What Yoel Marcus doesn't know about American politics would fill the whole Sinai. In my view, Bush is not a great friend to Israel. I voted for him twice, the second time with little pleasure. Even I was shocked at how bad on Israel he has become. But Israel is much worse for Israel than Bush has been. Marcus has absolutely no understanding how a great power thinks about competing goals. Israel didn't need, and did not have, serious US material support until Nixon came into office. Israel has actually created a dependency. Now it is creating a full-fledged terrorist state on both sides of it. Please Google "Paul Eidelberg" and learn more. Or just continue with your irrational territorial contractions and destroy yourselves. No wonder American Jews are increasingly distanced from Israel. Nobody likes a wuss.

'Hillary on her period would be far more dangerous to world peace than Bush!' Thank G-d Bush's period would be over soon. His lasted a tad over the usual schedule. (there has to be a joke about Al Gore there somewhere!)

With American Capitalists exporting capital and jobs - and our ability to produce almost everything. With another war looming to add to the two we already have, and to be financed with further tax cuts. With the systematic destruction of the middle class, and runaway budget and trade deficits. How long do you think the US will be able to afford to lavish billions on Israel, much less millions on Palestine? There will come a time when Americans will tire of supporting the imperial dreams of maniacs and wish instead to spend what we have left on America and ourselves. Got it?

A true friend looks you in the eye when you screw up and self-destruct and dares you to get your act together. If you abuse drugs, he tells you to stop, if you are drunk he doesn't let you drive even when you scream and curse at him. Bush never looked any israeli leader in the eye and told them that the policy of occupation, opression and human rights violations of the pals is self destructive and suicdal. Instead, he listened to the most irrational, extreme and evangelical elements of his constituency and supported the worst of the Israeli extreme right's instincts. With friendd like that who needs enemies?

Considering the traditionally liberal orientation of most Jews, there's a certain black comedy in who Israel's friends are these days. Apartheid South Africa, ferociously conservative American presidents, evangelical Christians (usually of a singularly unchristian caste of mind). It's a real rogue's gallery Israel now collects. Go to some pro-Israel sites, and they segue from support for Israel into just general racism and hate-mongering. If you want to know a man, look at his friends. I suppose Israelis could stop and reflect on that, but I doubt if they will.

If we (U.S. & Israel) attack Iran, then terrorist activity, world-wide, will "blow up in our faces"; as the Islamic peoples will be greatly angered -many of which will commit acts of terror against the West. So, what do we do? My solution is the policy of OFFSHORE BALANCING- the successful policy of having our aircraft carriers, nuclear subs, and bases perpetually ready to attack Iran should they attack Israel -AND MAKE THIS KNOWN TO THE IRANIANS.

Mark B. Do you really believe that Bush is turning the U.S. into a "police state?" The USA is the best country in the world to live in, and we are free to do what ever we wish, even criticsize the president. "The USA must be looking a bit like the former USSR now." You are nuts. I'm not a big supporter of Bush, but i respect the Israeli's (as almost all christian Americans do), and are glad they're our friends, rather than the declining western states of europe, who are so weak it funny.

What makes you think Iraq is a failure. Iran is surrounded. It is always best to let your enemy to think you are weak. The WAR is with IRAN it has always been. . .if you look at the aerial photography of the Iranian facilities in 2000 you will see that the target has always been Iran. The rest is deployment and positioning of military force. The problem is that it is Iran's intention to deseminate nuclear material. It cannot and will not be allowed. Bush is APPARENTLY weak to disarm Iran's vanity.

Bush is supported by the Neoconservatives, who are closely attached to America's Military/Industrial complex, and the Likud Party in Israel. This is how the U.S. and Israel got stuck with missiles defense systems that do not work. Its not so much the votes that counts but the money. I do not think Israel will disappear if Bush leaves office, but the pressure for a greater Israel will disappear with the neoconservatives. I think there might be more real interest in the two state solution.

Hillary on her period would be far more dangerous to world peace than Bush!

Judiasm has already lasted for 3000 years, and Jews have always considered Israel to be thier homeland, and the center of Judiasm. This is Zionism: the believe that Israel is the Jewish Homeland, and that Jews have a right to live in their historic Homeland in peace and security. Even the extreme left wing in Israel, like Meretz, are Zionist 100%. So if you're waiting for the end of Zionism, don't hold you breath!

I was not aware of "billions and billions" of dollars "lavished" on the Palestinians by the US. The PA gets next to nothing in comparison to what the US, in fact, lavishes upon Israel. Danite must have sources that are not available to the rank and file. Please link us to them, Danite

"The Bush model of the bullying empire is becoming discretited after its multiple failures, and Israel may be viewed as part of the same problem. (Israel was the only country were the entire population was pushing for a war in Iraq.)" - Ben Gurion It is clear that the Bush administration has failed miserably to enlist any support for it's intended attack on Iran except in Israel. It appears that the US and Israeli right are joined at the hip. "Both Abbas and Assad want to negotiate peace, but Israel declines." - Ben Gurion After Iran, the Bushiz have plans for Syria.

I have no doubt that George Bush sees himself as a friend to Israel. But let's not forget this is the same George Bush who practically ignored the Iranian threat for the first 4 plus years of his presidency. This is the same George Bush who'se policies lead to the creation of a pro-Iranian government in Iraq. This is the same George Bush who acquiesced to Hamas' participation in the Palestinian elections. If Bush wants to do Israel a favor, he should start being a better friend to the Arabs!

The Harvard-Chicago paper is a signal of a trend soon to turn Americans to follow a policy of US first. With US government borrowing almost nearing total GDP, Bush and others will be forced of America's interests first. Israel should adopt a policy of living without war. Assassinations of Palestinians will only increase humiliation felt not only by them but the Arab and Muslim world. After WWI Jews were less than 15.000 compared to nearly 400.000 Palestinians. Please tell your politicians that communism lasted just over 70 years. How long do they think Zionism will last!!

Talk to Abbas ,and let Assad hang himself with his own maximalist rope.A settlement with the Palestinians will help Israel chances of holding the Golan maybe forever.As long as Assad plays the big Arab on campus game Israel is free of any pressure to deal with him.Long Live president Assad!! Long Live the Baath party!! Too bad they are not a democracy I would funnel millions in illegal campaign contributions to Assads coffers.He is the best friend the Israeli Golan ever had.And the best part is, the process of evolution has ceased to be operable in Damascus,after they are perfect as they are. We Jews complain about the Arabs but if one must have enemies could one have asked for better ones than them? They do half the job for us.Shabat Shalom

The danger with Bush is the backlash that will be left after he falls. We need Hillary quick!

Thank you and the other American Arabs for voting him into office though 75% of Jews voted against him.I dont suppose you would prescribe the same medicine for Palestine would you?

Omert may believe that he can convince the world to accept his ``lines`` as the dejure borders of Israel but he will be informed otherwise by Bush and the euros.Combined with that reality check labor will push him to move to lines more in keeping with the international concensus.Without wanting to olmert is paving the way for an ultimate resolution towards a viable two state solution.He will have to eat his words that Ariel will always be a part of Israel.Olmert is going to do israel a great service by opening the door to israels Liberation from Palestine and with it from the failed middle east. Zman Herutainu magiah Barouch Ha Shem.

You are right! Look at what uncontrolled support for the PA resulted in!! A failed state!! At least Israel has used its aid well over the years while your Palestinians are thte total disaster and failures despite the billions and billions lavished on them with no questions asked.

"Independence? That's middle class blasphemy. We are all dependent on one another, every soul of us on earth."

"What happened to us in September, 2001, is a microcosmic but painful and powerful example of the fact we live in an inter-dependent world that is not yet an integrated global community."

Based on my experience, most American Jews who profess to despise Pres.Bush have one thing in common:they are either anti-Israel,or could care less whether Israel survives. Ditto for the hardcore Israeli lefties. Yes, there are a relative few who support Israel (usually silently) and dislike Bush - however,these are are the ones who cannot break the habit of biting the hands that feed us, in order to lick the boots that kick us.

fritz, allow me to laugh about your words. it's indeed a good joke to believe in the non-existence of us-influence in israeli policy and in the non-existence of arab-oil-influence in us policy, just because some harvard professors have told so. by the way: the university of harvard has distanced itself from this study! wish you ongoing nice dreams. yours, saul.

Whenever anyone says what wonderful friends the USA bombworshippers, that is Rapture freaks (or if you prefer, GW Bush's base), are of Israel, it is neccessary to return to fundamentals. That this is because they see it as axiomatic that the Dome of the Rock be destroyed in order that what is called the `Temple of Tribulations' be built, whereupon (note also the chaos vis crash of the petrodollar provides a conveniant backdrop for their deranged fantasies) the Jews shall prove themselves responsible for all the world's ills (eg USA's failure to secure control of the oil/ prop up their pyramid credit expansionary scheme via the petrodollar) & therefore must be smited as per REVELATIONS 7:4 (New Testament) for their failure to acknowledge our Lord & Saviour (which of course is the cause of ALL the world's ills), who shall thence ride to glory on a mushroom cloud to `Rapture up' our apple pie munching bretheren & stiff the rest of us.

Israel is a small country, surrounded by hostile Arab and Islamic countries, and it needs friends. Unfortunately, Europe may be slipping away, coming under heavier influence of its growing Moslem population. Israel is fortunate to have the US as a friend at this time. However, this may not last forever. With the end of the Cold War, Israel has mostly lost its strategic value for the US. It now has to rely on cultural and religious ties. This too may not last forever. The Bush model of the bullying empire is becoming discretited after its multiple failures, and Israel may be viewed as part of the same problem. (Israel was the only country were the entire population was pushing for a war in Iraq.) While Israel should use Bush's confusion as long as he lasts in power, we need to think about the future. While the US is backing Israel, it is possible to get better peace agreements with the Palestinians and with Syria. Both Abbas and Assad want to negotiate peace, but Israel declines.

Why Bush is so important for Israel? Simply because he is a strong friend of Israel and Israel needs friends like Bush Evandro

One of the topics Israel?s PM will need to prepare in advance is about how Israel is making progress in its economic reforms which were a precondition for the US loan guarantees to Israel. It is very true that Israel has no known oil deposits. What Israel does have are High-Tech capabilities in most of the areas that Silicon Valley excels in. A smart President Bush would ask Israel?s PM about the future ability of the Israeli education system to replace that large number of immigrants in High Tech with Israeli trained graduates. Otherwise Israel has no real substitute for Arab oil to offer, just a short term gift of talent trained elsewhere, but not trainable here. All of this is about governmental reforms, something I don?t see in the offing sad to say. I hope I?m wrong in this regard.

Dear Pompous Political "Pundit", proud? pal defender, you are as myopic of the future as a suicide terrorist. It seems you suggest a total isolationist policy for the U.S., and yet the U.S. should feel some sort of global responsibility for the displaced Jordanians,(self-proclaimed "palestinians").You say,"It takes an INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY--To Win A War" and then use Iraq as an example. Bush's "coalition of the Willing" consisted of 40 nations. This does not a community make ??? You've eaten to many mushrooms, mr. "left-is- right-&right-is-wrong" obfuscationist. All the nations on EARTH need to be gathered as one to defeat this global threat of blood-lusting, death-loving islamism. But at least those who battle it now may well be deserving of praise, and not of the ridicule you so pompously heap upon those with HEART.

George W Bush has been the worst and most unqualified president in the our history. The list of his national security, economic, social and ethical disasters is too long to mentiuon in any one forum, you would need the whole of cyberspace. Come november he will be a neutralized and powerless lameduck, subjected to impeachment procedures. Israel shouls stay away from this awful and disastrous 'president'.

I am naturally a strong ally of Bush (even though I am very angry about Iraq i see he is truely loved by his people and does well by them). I think Turkey should build ties with the U.S and China and end ties with the E.U and Israel (not for political reasons but because we shouldent get caught up in the politics of this violitile region). i hope the republican GOP wins in 2008! Good Luck!!!!

In Sharon's autobiography he states that the misconception that arose from the 73 Yom Kippur war was that Israel cannot survive without the US. It weakened American Jews loyalty to Israel and their pride in Israel. It is a false perception, that we cannot survive without America. We would have needed to take more drastic steps sooner for our own interests and not for America's interests, maybe this would have been a better option for Israel and our long term integrity as a Jewsih State. We saved King Hussein from the palis and from the syrians, why? for american interests. MISTAKE BIG MISTAKE, Sharon would agree with me if he were awake, it's in his book.

When you refer to the rest of the world you are usually refering to western europe and the arab states. Well let me tell you that your rest of the world will become irrelevant over the long run, GOD does not forgive or forget until justice is served and a balance has been struck. Europe will have to freeze and endure an ice age before being forgiven, arab states, well we know how they manage to punish themselves, Bush will continue punishing muslim radicals and fascists, count on it.

Israel remains completely dependent on American Aid. If they aren't then why is the US still allocating 25%+ of its foriegn aid budget to Israel? If Israel finally decides to wage peace with her neighbors, she then need less aid, be less dependent, and obviously much stronger... Final analysis: Israel needs to be weened off American welfare like a baby is weened off a pacifier: The best approach is COLD TURKEY.

bush as a weak president has been useful to sharon and will be to omert. sharon and omert are not israel, they do not have to concern themselves with the politics of israel in the next 25 to 50 years. if it was an advantage to castrate the PA and abbas and eventually bring hammas to power, then bush was good. if it means continual building of settlements so that there is virtually no hope of creating a viable palestinian state, bush was good. if israel will become the 21st century pariah of the western world, rightly or wrongly, bush was good. bush has less credibility internationally than any other us president and israel is inheriting his lack of credibility. most of all he has given al quiada a great boost with his folly in iraq.

The subjects of "America's influence in Israeli policy" and "Arab oil influence in America's policy" were sufficiently covered in the study. Both influences are - as any perceptive person knows - practically non-existent. It is as easy as that. You would know had you read the paper a little more carefully.

He isn't perfect. No man is. But he was the right man at the right time. All you Bush bashers can go howl at the moon for all I care. The only thing I regret is that the Marines weren't prepared for all the roadside bombs in Iraq. The vehicles weren't tough enough for all the explosions. Rumsfeld reminds me of Truman. When 9/11 occured, he called a spade a spade. He said "Arabs!" No lefty political correctness side speak. That's what I admire about the man. Rice has been nothing but courageous. The Democrats can't even hold a light next to this administration. We were lucky! We were all lucky! Selah!

About the mid East,Jews,Palestinians,..even if you visited once,are barred from visiting now,and love their wrestlers,...you know nothing..

as we write here, some guy in London is preaching hatred and terror against 'non-believers' in ur backyard. I read on Guardian that sympathy for terrorists among muslim populations in Europe has actually increased. i dont think anything seems to be working against them. the acts might be less, but the ideology and radicalisation of thought process is clearly increasing. disengagement might be a better solution.

The influence of oil is much bigger for the US than its relationship with Israel. I think Israel is a good foil for the Americans and Saudis from Muslim fundamentalism (the Saudis play at fundamentalism while they fill their own coffers) The antithesis of this is Iran (Saddam is gone now and Al Qaida is more an enigma than anything else even though they got 'lucky' for two minutes) Iran wants to take over the arab world and its oil.This is the Sole Armandine play. Wrestling influence from the Princes must be the plan. Israel is a good scapegoat,the classic scapegoat for the Totalitarian.

yeah, when you give give the Indians there statehood. And Mexicans.... etc.etc.

offcourse western corporations make a lot of money through arabs. but if there was no oil with arabs they wouldnt have that much wealth and hence less business with them and less dealing with their sick demands and behavior in the name of religion. i have serious doubts that without oil any arab nation would be even half as wealthy. any country which has more than 3% muslim population spends serious amount of time and resources on dealing with muslims.

only the lefties are too dumb to see it

I heart, the secret US Capital is TA. Right or wrong?

Yoel Marcus - what global support? Much of the world is anti-American. Some of the world is anti-Israeli because the Arabs have oil, some BECAUSE it has American support, some because they blame (both sides) those involved in a conflict for the conflict, some because they oppose overtly nationalist struggles - the rest are Moslems or those anti-semites who can transfer this onto those Jews gathered together in a nation state. US support for Israel in the struggle against terrorism is useful, especially if diplomacy enables a common front with the EU.

My friend wake up, The UK is the other country helping he USA to fight terrorism in every aspect of it,not to mention the EU aswell...Now everybody is doing something about these terrorists...but i think our friend Bush needs some new methods,because his old fashioned style ain`t working.while u say at least Bush is trying to do something then guess what? the EU is not trying but they are really doing it in a very smart way to track down them Gangs...Keep watching CNN,but BBC and some other European Channels got fresh news too.

If you play with fire you get burnt.

If I needed friends like Bush, I'd rather be a loner for the rest of my life. He is a lying and cheeting religious madman, an ex-drunk who never archieved anything, who is violating the American Constitution, doing away with the state of law and creating a sort of super police state with Goelag-prisons all over the world (The USA must be looking a bit like the former USSR now). If Israel thinks this friend will help them in the long run they are wrong. But Israel thinks like Bush; what the rest of the world thinks matters not. Wait and see in the long run.

Truman had a 15% approval rating until he dropped the Bomb and ended the war. This is about war. The United States is in a declared war. There are a number of strategic air bases in Israel. This is not about rhetoric, this is about ACTUAL military strategy. It is Iran's intention to disseminate nuclear weaponry and technology. A Priori this cannot and therefore will not be allowed. We are at war not at theory. Dhab is nothing, imagine if they had used nuclear material. That is their intent. In a war its good to have a bunch of 'good ole boys' armed to the teeth with the ultimate in military technology. There will be peace only after this war is over. There is a DECLARED WAR going on, next is the DRAFT. . .this is not theatre or issues for discussion. Come to dinner any time, bring the family, you are more than welcome.

There are many considerations that will affect the U.S. relationship with Israel. Even the most ignorant of Americans are becoming aware of the huge amount of their tax dollars that are going to Israel. On top of that is the AIPAC scandal, plus Jonathan Pollard has recently been back in the news. If Americans became as mobilized as they have been recently over the anti-immigrant legislation, Israel's secure position even with Shrub is not to be taken for granted. His family is into oil after all, and Israel has none.

I agree. The US will always be important to Israel, particularly given everyone else is standing back and allowing Iran to become a nuclear power. Any Israeli government that allows such an existential threat to emerge is not doing its job. Too much focus on the Palestinians and not on Iran

Israel can have him, and we'll throw in the rest of his family for good measure.

"...will save the world from dealing with arabs." Surely you do not believe that the large U.S. companies don't want do deal with Arab nations? These companies are making a LOT of money. They see no reason to discontinue their deals. Besides, why should anyone stop dealing with Arab nations? Arab and Islamic nations pose a much smaller threat to the peace and welfare of the world's peoples than the new neo-liberal, purely capitalistic mentality emanating from the U.S. and (increasingly) and Europe.

Israel is powerful, and America is powerful. Why is there slandering against a Nation who is allied with with each other. Friends are better than enemies who blow up lives around them. We all know where time is heading to. Disappointed to see though, here in the West the propaganda of the Vile is winning. At least Bush is trying to do something about the Terrorists. Where are the other Countries? Please list some names of Countries who are working hard in ending these "Gangs" legacy?

Never at any point in recent history--has the U.S. been as weak in its support INTERNATIONALLY--as it is now. The only thing that keeps anyone listening to us--is that Bin Laden, etc. are attacking other people. The support & diplomatic/political covering we give Israel is dangerous to our country--& ignores the fact of the realities going on in the world. America SHOULD NOT BE risking itself--to this extent--FOR ISRAEL OR ANY COUNTRY! America & Israel--need to look long-term/into the future when it comes to this conflict & our support. Iraq is a lesson--a decisive, telling & revealing lesson--FOR US, ISRAEL & OTHERS. It takes an INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY--To Win A War. Two Lone (Solo) Players--meaning the U.S. & Israel--can not win the ENTIRE WAR! Israel needs to do what it's supposed to do--give the Palestinians all of the West Bank, E. Jerusalem and Gaza. ...What WE should have made YOU do long ago. To Not Do This-- Is to say YOU want war--& NOT PEACE!

Bush is not a good friend of Israel. He is a good servant of Israel. If Israel needs a servant more than it needs a friend, Bush is THE MAN.

it exists only till the world lets it exist. those jokers have to sell their oil too. they cant drink it even if their religious leaders ask them too. but it will definitely be a great relief if the toyotas and hondas perfect alternative fuel technology for vehicles. will save the world from dealing with arabs.

i suggest, the harvard professors should make a study about america's influence in israeli policy - and perhaps also one about arab (oil) influence in america's policy.