The loss of more than a friend
The sorrow over the death Abed Alun, who was killed in the suicide bombings in Amman, is immense, not only for those who lost a good friend -we all lost a peace-seeking man who made many efforts to bring the two nations closer.
By Ze'ev SchiffEarly Friday morning, after the suicide bombings in Amman, I called an old friend in Jordan to ask how he and his family were doing. My Jordanian friend was not harmed, but a few hours later I learned that among the dead was a Palestinian friend, Abed Alun, with whom I had met many times in recent years.
His funeral was in Jerusalem the next day, and that evening I went with two friends to Beit Hanina in East Jerusalem to pay a condolence call on the family. The mourners' tent was full of grave-faced men. The women mourned indoors, and Abed's mother greeted us in the courtyard. Abed left two small children.
Abed was declared a shaheed, even though Muslims killed him. "That's not the real Islam," I was told over and over by Palestinians, referring to Al-Qaida. They have killed many Muslims in the past - Moroccans, Turks, Egyptians and Iraqis. This time they also badly hurt Palestinians.
It seems the suicide attack shocked many Palestinians. The gathering at one of the hotels that was attacked in Amman was to celebrate the wedding of two Palestinian families. One of the families lost 17 people in the blast, including the fathers of the bride and groom. Abed and I often discussed suicide bombings, which he called attacks of madness.
Abed was a young man - 36 at his death - who had accomplished a lot. He served in Palestinian intelligence, at a rank comparable to a colonel. Only after Arafat's death did he abandon his activity in the Palestinian Authority and start a career as a businessman.
As part of his work for Palestinian intelligence, he met about 18 months ago - as part of a small group to which I also belonged - with a very senior official in the Iranian government. The man described how he saw a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: First Israel must accept the majority of Palestinian refugees, then there will be general elections and Tehran will recognize the new government formed in Israel. Abed, who was sitting beside him, immediately responded that that was not the solution the PA wanted. We support the two-state solution and the Iranian proposal replaces it. The Iranian attacked him and accused the Palestinians of treachery.
A few months later, the Palestinians worked out a security plan with the British, meant, among other things, to eliminate the weapons-smuggling tunnels under the Philadelphi corridor. Abed was among those who formulated the plan, in which the British agreed to establish for the Palestinians two operational command headquarters in the territories. With the approval of Yasser Arafat, the plan was given to Channel 22's Ehud Yaari, MK Ephraim Sneh, and me. We told Abed the plan would be given to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, and he was given approval for that. Sharon deigned to meet us immediately and the plan was good, operationally, but there was a problem - it required indirect contact between Sharon and Arafat, which doomed it.
Abed had extraordinary contacts. Once I was delayed at the Allenby Bridge because of a visa problem. No Israeli or Jordanian managed to help me out that Friday afternoon, the day of rest for Muslims. I asked Abed for his help, and with one phone call to Jordan the bridge opened to me.
The sorrow over the death of Abed is great, not only for those who lost a good friend; we all lost a peace-seeking man who made many efforts to bring the two nations closer.
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hmmm... pretty funny reading two Haaretz reporters (shiff & regular) writing on the same person (alun) completely different things. So, in whom we trust?? erik
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/646485.html Sounds like a common criminal. OK, OK, not a common criminal.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/646485.html Sounds like a common criminal. OK, OK, not a common criminal.
Let's see. A Sunni Muslim terrorist, sends Iraqi suicide bombers (including a newly married husband and wife team) to Jordan, to blow up European owned hotels. One includes a wedding celebration between two Palestinian families, another includes Chinese military attaches. And according to Dutch, the only blame is Israel. Go read the Tom Friedman article Dutch, you make the Sunni's described therein look like moral heavyweights.
Ze'ev-- Blame Sharon's underming efforts in the peace process and especailly his efforts to bypass the PA and his Fomaldehyde Vision for a Palestinian state for your friend's death. What a great evil Sharon is promoting and protecting by his illegal settlements and occupation. Israelis ought to be out in the streeets demanding that they be removed! Dutch
It is not the elite who objects in writings and talk shows that are relevant, it is the moderate muslim organisation which go into schools, youth centers and places where unemployed immigrants gather. And this is still happening too less.
"Please your muslim pride aside when christianty is discussed. It is none of your business." I would if I was a muslim. BTW, adam/eve and abraham and his kids are not exclusively christian, although altogether rediculous. Nothing really against the written word, rather its anger with the crazy messianists that work tirelessly to actualize vengefull prophecies.
or at least become the Palestinian U.N. representative or Bill Clinton's aide.
Once again, my infantile brother, Dr. Jean-Claud Rubato, is mistaken. I laugh rolls of high pitched chortles at his pathetic attempt to post on this board. The streetwalker he is referring to, is clearly the very same Moldavian that Mother called a whore. Concerning, Boris' post, I say, considering the Palestinian attempts at Ugaritic formulations, there is only one turbolent that cannot be pursued. And I think we all know what that is....
Your criticism hurts like a pain in a ass, It seems you belong to Fatah or Hamas.
Your criticism hurts like a pain in a ass, It seems you belong to Fatah or Hamas.
Your criticism hurts like a pain in a ass, It seems you belong to Fatah or Hamas.
Don't quit your day job. Collecting garbage is a noble and important profession, no matter what you may think are your shortcomings as a man.
Allah is happy to see this Abed, Dozens of virgins are ready in bed. And it should be "string" to "sting" in the other one, although it works eather way.
Your sarcasm in 22 is hurtful to christians. Please your muslim pride aside when christianty is discussed. It is none of your business. You mention the word "penis", I see. Another sign of your male domination.
Alan, my goal is not to set Ibrahim up against his Arab brothers. Your post 46 is not very helpful in this. Of course islamic theology should be dubious to christians, but what i would like to see is that Ibrahim discovers to beauty of judaism in Jesus teachings. Jesus did not bring a new religion, he taught judaism in the way he thought it should be. And Arab christian say they read the same bible as other christians, so if they do, this has consquences for their support to the people of Israel. The Jews are the branch upon which every gentile is grafted on, not vice versa. And it is generally known that Arab christians even today too much identify with things who abslutely do not belong to christianity, as thise womens right you mention, the Alksa Mosque, the Umha. These are things a christian should stay far from.
i have read Mark Gabriel.....very interesting....especially "islam is full of discrimination against women, non muslims, christians and most especially jews. Hatred is built into the religion" regards Alan
Does the attack in Jordan despite the widespread support of the populace for the freedom fighting Al Quaida send you any message about you and Hamas and folly of thinking they are on your side?
The Arabs are only angry at al queida because they kill other muslims. as long as they kill Jews and americans thats okay with them. Al quedai was popular in Jordan untill this.The arabs sense of right and wrong begins and ends with their skins.If this attack had been at an Israeli wedding they would have jumped for joy.They got what they desrved from the monsters they have been cheering on in their hearts all these years.
I advise you to read the works of Mark Gabriel. An Arab christian, converted out of islam, former professor at Al Atzar University in Cairo. He is very active among Arab christians in America and is also well respected and his testimony is recorded on many Arab christian website. By reading his works you can better understand what I mean. I know you have a prejudice against me, so take it from someone you trust.
Considering that defense is Ze'ev Schiff's beat, it is not unusual that he would have Palestinian connections, including in Palestinian intelligence. "I doubt his desire for peace with an intact Israel." - Marc Hamil I'll accept Schiff's word. I have been reading stuff written by him for 30 years. "I also doubt Ze`ev`s loyalty to Israel by having a friend so closely tied to Palestinian intelligence." - Marc Hamil Did you ever read Schiff's excellent history of the IDF? "I guess if the man Abed was truly a terrorist Israel would have killed him already but perhaps he was a spy for Israel as well. " - Marc Hamil Could be or he and Schiff might have just been friends. Perhaps he and Abed constituted a 'back channel.' "Why instead of mourning this man who is gulity by association condemn those who orchestrated the terror attack and the Palestinian culture that reveres the Shaheed and those who make the attacks?" - Marc Hamil "Abed was declared a shaheed, even though Muslims killed him. "That's not the real Islam," I was told over and over by Palestinians, referring to Al-Qaida. They have killed many Muslims in the past - Moroccans, Turks, Egyptians and Iraqis. This time they also badly hurt Palestinians." - Ze'ev Schiff, in Haaretz, today quoting Arabs condemning Al-Qaida
Lets try to understand this, first this murdered Abed was named a shaheed although he was killed by fellow muslims. Than we learn that he was involved with Palestinian intelligence which means he was somewhat personally involved with Palestinian terrorism himself since "palestinian" intelligence is used mainly against Israel . Than we learn that Ze'ev was meeting with this man in a group that Ze'ev neglects to mention what kind of group it was. It's sad the way this man was killed. Yet, I mourn him not for he was on the enemy side, I doubt his desire for peace with an intact Israel. I also doubt Ze'ev's loyalty to Israel by having a friend so closely tied to Palestinian intelligence. I guess if the man Abed was truly a terrorist Israel would have killed him already but perhaps he was a spy for Israel as well. Why instead of mourning this man who is gulity by association condemn those who orchestrated the terror attack and the Palestinian culture that reveres the Shaheed and those who make the attacks?
"It is a complete mystery to me why there is no widespread response to the fundamentalists when it is clear there is a silent rejection to what they stand for and their tactics." - Tareq I see and hear Muslims speaking and writing against terrorism all the time. You might have to read to the end of the newspaper article before you encounter it, or you might have to read the back pages of the 'religion' section to see that clerics have denounced attacks on civilians. "Arabs, I imagine, dont believe anybody would listen..." - Tareq Lots of people are too busy denying the existence of what they don't listen to, to listen to anything.
It is always humbling to read the testimony of a survivor of a terrorist attack, be well, friend! What a cruel irony - for a Jerusalemite to be in a terrorist attack in Amman! When more people understand that making excuses for terror only brings terror to their doorstep, here will be progress.
"The Saudi press often extols such suicide bombers as "martyrs" or "the resistance." - Jacob Blue Naughty of you to notice that. Next you will be revealing that 9-11 was a mostly Saudi plot instead of an Iraqi one. Never fear, the House of Saud and the House of Bush are great pals and business partners. The House of Saud has used Wahabbist right wing religious fundamentalism as the state religion for generations. The House of Bush is pushing to make right wing Christian fundamentalism the state religion of the United States. The official US Party Line is that the House of Saud, and the country they own, are great pals, eager opponents of the religious terrorism they spread, and a great hope for the future.
Tom Freidman should have thought a few minutes before cheering the Bush decision to conquer Iraq. The terrorist situation is much worse after Bush's gift to Al Queada of 150,000 hated targets to recruit and train terrorists.
"What are they supposed to say?" That targeting innocents is immoral, and never to be honored. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/12/wjordan12.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/12/ixworld.html "Sympathy for al-Qa'eda's leader in Iraq turned to hatred in his home town yesterday as clan members and ex-neighbours dismissed the justification for the Amman bombings." "By killing Jordanians here in Jordan, civilian Jordanians going to a wedding, they did something that not even a Jew would do," he said." (( Yes, meant to be a slur, but fundamentally inherently realizes the difference between ruthless terrorists, and those who fight terrorism ))
Dancing and singing shaheed Abed Came just too close to the one with the belt. Smart and connected, he pulled not one sting, But other fellow pulled one on him. Moral of story for Arab and Jew - Don't ride a tiger; he'll bite soon at you.
Dancing and singing shaheed Abed Came just too close to the one with the belt. Smart and connected, he pulled not one sting, But other fellow pulled one on him. Moral of story for Arab and Jew - Don't ride a tiger; he'll bite soon at you.
Why your anger at Ben Israel? It is true that the Palestinians/Jordanians were only furious because they themselves were the target of terrorist attacks. Palestinians regularly *celebrate* terrorist murder when nonMuslims, ie, Israelis, are victims: "Thousands of Palestinians took to the streets of Kabatiya, south of Jenin, Wednesday night to celebrate the suicide bombing in Hadera, which was carried out by local resident Hassan Abu Zeid" "I'm proud of my son and hope that he will enter heaven," the mother declared. " http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1129540616943&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
[[Suha on the Amira Hass forum this morning has responded#6 positively to a post by Leon Rosgarten#4 regarding the idea of population increase "until it will just crush the colonists by its sheer size"]] I hope it is clear now that it is not exactly what i wanted to say. Anyway, I wrote only one sentence, and i i did not mean to comment on the "until it will just crush the colonists by its sheer size", coz it is just rediculious. The man was asking how Palestinian populations grow up to make a people and I was trying to help him out! I am really glad that we have reached to a clear mutual understanding. Maybe I also mis-read your comments. Now, everything is clear to me. Have a good evening, with Shalom. Suha.
Understood. True "building relationships between both sides" is a prerequisite to better understanding and respect. The problem indeed is that there is not enough of that going on. be well.
Absolutely right. It is a complete mystery to me why there is no widespread response to the fundamentalists when it is clear there is a silent rejection to what they stand for and their tactics. One thing I am sure of is that, generally speaking, the concept of grass roots participation is widely absent among my arab brethren. Arabs, I imagine, dont believe anybody would listen...
"All I know is there are atrocities being perpetrated every day in Iraq and all I hear is silence from the Arab world." - Ben Israel What are they supposed to say? "Let America turn Iraq into a giant military base from which to conquer the rest of the middle east"?
I was intrigued that the victims of the homicide bombing in Jordan are also considered shaheeds. Interestingly, when the victim of these bombings is Jewish, they are not shaheeds. This is racist. I guess it confirms the old Palestinian saying Filastin biladna al yahud klabna (Palestine is ours and the Jews are our dogs)
My reasons for refering to racism and intolerence is twofold. Firstly Suha on the Amira Hass forum this morning has responded#6 positively to a post by Leon Rosgarten#4 regarding the idea of population increase "until it will just crush the colonists by its sheer size". Secondly, despite the frequent accusations of racism and fascism made towards the "colonialist occupiers" there has never to my knowledge been any recognition of institutionalised racism/fascism from anti-israeli posters and more pertinently arab posters in Arabic society generally and specifically within the territories. I called for building relationships between both sides in my post as well as pointing out deficiencies. Hatred is not my thing.If thats how you read my post then I apologise. I was accused of hypocrisy by Ibrahim#11 but he also understood what i meant by culture of victimhood. In all honesty my posts are often slanted towards the intended recipient and how I perceive them. Suhas reply to my post alters that perception somewhat. But first impressions were not so good. Regards Ezreal
I am not at all sure what sparked your freaky religious lecture. Please know that I am indeed looking out for Israel and the Jews. It is in their best interests to treat non-Jews, particularly those who have lived on that land for centuries, with dignity and humanity. It is certainly in their best interests to retreat from the West Bank, comprimise on East Jerusalem, and forge a lasting peace.... As for Christian Arabs, do you really think I need you to put me in touch with them? How silly. I see enough of them in Church every Sunday. They all despise Israeli policy.
Suicide bombing is an abomination. It is sick. You cannot build a healthy state from suicide bombers. Imagine what your national museum would look like: "Here's Ahmed - he blew up 52 Muslims at a wedding." "Here's Muhammad - he blew up 25 Shiites at a funeral." So why don't more people in the Sunni world speak out against the Sunni Arabs doing this? In part, it's because feelings of powerlessness and humiliation are rife in Sunni Arab society, so there is some grudging respect for suicide bombers who are ready to give their lives to resist outsiders or the authoritarian regimes that Arabs blame for keeping them down. It's also because the Sunni silent majority isn't all that upset when suicide bombers blow up Jews, Christians or Shiite civilians. The Saudi press often extols such suicide bombers as "martyrs" or "the resistance." Since their societies tolerated such barbarism against civilians when it was used against others, the Sunni terrorists apparently figured it was just fine to use such tactics against their Sunni foes, too. I am sure Zarqawi is mystified today by the protests against him in Jordan. He must be asking, What's the fuss? After all, no one protested recently when Muslim suicide bombers butchered Shiites in Iraq or Ahmedis in Pakistan or Christian tourists in Indonesia or Jews in Israel or Hindus in New Delhi. The Sunni world would do well to reread the famous poem by the Rev. Martin Niemöller, a German pastor imprisoned in World War II: "First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me." A civilization that does not delegitimize suicide bombing against any innocent civilian is itself committing suicide. And that is exactly what the Sunni Muslim world is doing when it does not consistently teach its children that suicide bombing against civilians is always wrong - and that all who engage in it do not go to heaven, but straight to hell.
November 16, 2005 Op-Ed Columnist 'Why Us?' Sunni Arabs Should Ask, 'Why Anyone?' By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN JERUSALEM We are so bombarded with news of terrorism lately that we don't even notice anymore when a fundamental line has been crossed. The last few weeks was one of those times. At the start of the Muslim holy month, Ramadan, a Sunni Muslim suicide bomber walked into a mosque in Hilla, Iraq, and blew himself up in the middle of a funeral. Just after the close of Ramadan, a Sunni Muslim suicide bomber walked into the Radisson SAS Hotel in Amman, Jordan, and blew himself up in the middle of a wedding reception. Terrorists willing to blow themselves up at funerals and weddings of their own faith are individuals who have become completely disconnected from humanity. They feel no moral restraints. And this is the real problem in the Sunni Muslim world today: there is no controlling moral authority. Any event can be a target: funerals, weddings, anything. Maybe next week the jihadists will blow up a maternity ward. Yes, there is a civil war going on in the Sunni Muslim world today, a civil war between jihadist fundamentalists on one side and a generally moderate majority on the other. There's just one problem - only one side is really fighting this civil war: the jihadists. The Sunni Muslim majority has been largely passive. Oh, yes, the Sunni Arab regimes arrest these jihadists when they can, but the Sunni regimes and the religious establishments they control rarely attack the underlying intolerant Islamist ideas these jihadists propagate, namely that Christians, Jews, Shiites and Hindus are inferior to Sunni Muslims and can be attacked. How many fatwas - religious edicts - have been issued condemning the Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who has already murdered hundreds of Shiite Muslims and others? Not many. It was heartening to see Jordanians take to the streets to condemn the triple suicide bombings in their capital by the Zarqawi terrorists. That's rare. And King Abdullah of Jordan has been one of the few Arab leaders actually willing to take on the jihadists on the ideological-religious level, sponsoring an intra-Muslim dialogue for just that purpose. But it was also dispiriting to listen to other Jordanian and Arab voices saying that they believe Israelis were behind the attacks in Amman, or telling the bombers: if you want to bomb someone, bomb the "occupiers" - code for Americans and Israelis. Why us? But here's the protest call the world needs to hear from the Sunni Arab street: "Why anyone?"
I was about to respond to your posting # 1, surprised how come you could not anticipate to see both sides working together towards achieving peace... I am sure, there are lots and lots of Palestinians, like myself, eager to promote reconciliation and compromise for this dreadful encounter. And personally I always regreted loosing good Israeli friends . As Ezreal put it in his posting #7, no peace can be achieved by any means, exept through encounters between the two people, and by mutual understanding to both their sufferings and some of the non greedy needs.
Yes, the gods split open the heavens and dropped Adam on a big pile of pillows and then Adam reached and pulled this hot chick called Eve from his ribs and then many many years later the heavens were split open again and some angels came down and told a nice guy to kill his child and at first the nice guy said ok, but then he said no way, i will kill this ram instead, the gods wont know the difference! then god said oh yeah, remember the slave girl you have and remember I told you sleep with her, ok change of plans, you should banish her into the desert and behold! there is going to be a big fight between your two kids in the far far future, but do not envy Isac, Ibrahim, for his responsibility is even greater than the one of Ishmail. besides penis envy is a sin. This is all biblical, not out of my crazy mind as you might think. "STRAWBERRIES ARE TASTY AND SWEET FRUITS" BENandJERRYs 1:12
I cant answer all your questions. Believe me, they perplex me as well. One thing I cannot tolerate are those individuals that offer their black or white solutions/answers in less than two and a half sentences. There are many shades of grey, and believe it or not, the one and united arab muslim nation dispersed into many smaller nation states over 50 years ago and now we have a variety of arab countries with varying priorities, opinions and strategies. However, a question I have constatnly asked other arabs over the past year is "Who would you like to see win the war in Iraq? the US or the sunni militants?" I have not yet met one arab to favor the militants - mainly for their attrocities against Iraqi civilians.
Ok, no problem. Thanks for telling me that we are understanding each other. I forgot to say to you "Hamdillah ala salamtak = Thank God you are safe and ok in arabic". Salam. Thanks Haaretz.
You are too remote from the teachings of the rabbi of Nazareth. The Jew who came first of all for the House of Israel and later asked his followers to go into the world. Jesus never had any aspiration to travel abroad himself, for his place was first of all with his people. He was critical, yes, but out of deep love for them. According to your bible he will return on the mount of Olives, and establish his kingdom, because from Zion the law will go forth. This is all biblical, not out of my crazy mind as you might think. I can understand your love for your arab brothers, you are too from Abraham. You are carrying his name. A promise for your people has been done by your God to Abraham. But it is not like the way God had in mind for Isac. Do not envy Isac, Ibrahim, for his responsibility is even greater than the one of Ishmail. Ibrahim, you could experience a much deeper faith by laying off these old prejudices. Get in touch with Arab christians who can help you with this. They are there and if you do not find them I can get in touch with them for you, if you want. You have to pray for Israel, as a christian you need to stand around Israel as watchmen. It's all in Paul's teachings as well. People like you can make a difference if you really open yourself for the rich message of the gospel. Now you are a christian you do not have anything to do with Mecca, the Omar Mosque, Muhammed, Arafat. Go away from it and focus on the messiah.
I appologise for the misunderstanding.
I am very sorry not to be understood here. "Resistance" is not my prefered definition, and that is actually why I left it in quot.marks. I ment to warn from the way this article could be understood by mainstream Palestinians. I am sorry you cannot see this until now! Of course I know and beleive that peace can be acheived by talks and contacts, not by smuggling clashinkoffs from Egypt while the IDF have arms of 2005! but the description in the article cannot be received the same way by MAINSTREAM PALS! Anyway, I cannot see any possibility of explaining more and more, again and again what I thought as long as you guyes do not look at my comment deeply, and just stick to small words. Sahlom and Salam to all of you.
Why did they hit the wedding full of Palestinians, then? All I know is there are atrocities being perpetrated every day in Iraq and all I hear is silence from the Arab world. According to the New York Times, they say many in the Arab world say "Shi'ites have it coming, they are non-believers allied with the Jews". Why was there never an outcry in the Arab world against the atrocities in Algeria and Lebanon? Where are the demonstrations in the Arab/Muslim world against the killing in Iraq? Okay, if you don't like the Americans there say "Americans out of Iraq, Terrorists out of Iraq"! But no, the Arab/Muslim world is silent. Just as the Arab/Muslim supported murder of Jews in Israel, so they support the murder of Iraqis. Terrorism always boomerangs back on those who support it.
The Israeli Hasbara department has had many friends pushing this canard. Time and time again we have read about how every time there has been a suggestion of opening up borders for the Palestinians the "Al-Qaida is moving in" nonsense has been planted by the Hasbara folks through their "friends" in Israeli newspapers. Let's hope that the propganda department have lost one "friend" Ze'ev.
Your post is drenched in hypocrasy. You declare Suha only wants enemies, but with statements like in your post, you cannot convince anyone you yourself are looking for anything but enemies. The quote below proves to me people like yourself need the likes of Suha to justify your own hatered. "...racism and intolerence is endemic in arab society.It is your peoples cancer.It is why no matter how many of you there are you will never progress..." Prove me otherwise.
Your prefered mode of "resistance" is weak, futile, ineffective and in some cases downright immoral. The poor man thought and sought peace and all you can think of is how many weapons we could smuggle from Egypt. Maybe if you read the news more closely, you would realize that more than anything else, those weapons are causing chaos and death to our Palestinian brothers and sisters in Gaza. Hug a tree.
Truly your post is a despicable attempt at slander. I am a lucky survivor of that same bombing and I assure you, there was no mistake. The lobby of the hotel was packed full of foreigners and the murderer took a conscious decision at targeting the arab wedding. You are blind with your hatered. You probably didnt even read the article. Xenophobia thrives on people like you.
Hey Buddy, You should probably know alot about the "culture of victimhood" ? Every time someone doesn't agree with Israel they are either anti-sematic or they want to see Israel destroyed? Your hypocracy is quite immense. One thing I will grant you, Palestinians have to get over the victimhood thing and fight smarter in all spheres.
Checkpoints, fences, walls and town that is suffocating for freedom and dignity. The situation in Beit Hanina and El'Ram is unconsciousable and will certainly end in no good for the state of Israel.
I am very sorry for your strong language that is actually stuffed with generalizations. I am also sorry that you are assuming that we do not like to have friends from Israel. Unfortunately, you need to know more about us. Well, I personally have very good friends from Isarel that I appreciate and respect very much. I also admire many Isarelis that I do not know personally but I know about their achievemnets in scinece, arts, human rights, sports..long list indeed. Maybe you do not know so much about our people and what they would think about someone who is WORKING with Israeli intellegence against "resistance", coz this "resistance" for you is "terrotism", but the ppl there take it as "resistance". You can also imagine how much we are suffering from the "Wasta=relationship interets" issue also inside our society: if i know someone working on the borders, i can pass by a pohone call, as the author did. I am not sure if this is also appreciated among Palestinians! The author used examples to portray the man as a good person but only from his point of view. However, there are many Palestinians reading Haaretz everyday. If what he is saying is the truth about Alun, then he should have probabely mentioned sth else that is also true but makes him look "better" in the eyes of Palestinians. That is why I saw it self-focused from him. That is exactly what I wanted to explain, and i never mentioned that we do not like to have Israeli friends; at least am speaking about myself and a number of Palestinians that I know with many Israeli DECENT AND CLEAN relationships! May God rest him in peace, my point was that he seemed to be much more respected among our poeple before this article. You may re-think now, who is actually trying to "negatively" portray him after his death! Shalom.
Kato is a poet, Dr. Robato a hopeless romantic, like poor Ze'ev Schiff. Ze'ev I am sure that jews that get murdered by Palestinians get courtesy calls from all their arab friends, all the time. Right?
No peace agreement, no withdrawal from disputed territories will achieve peace without people from both sides increasing contacts and building of friendships, yes even with the "evil occupiers". Your people will simply fester and crave for revenge regardless of any eventual settlement.Why ridicule and criticise an arab for having Israeli friends.(especially a dead one) He cant be a true patriot and befriend Israelis at the same time? Those sentiments would be considered as grotesque and racist if made by a Jew. But then racism and intolerence is endemic in arab society.It is your peoples cancer.It is why no matter how many of you there are you will never progress until you desist from your cult of victimhood, and start to take positive actions with regards to your new neighbours, that doesnt involve suicide missions.
I hope you are not right, and I hope that if the pals loved him really, which is not surprising for me, that they would not hate him now after this article.
Yours is a thirst that can never be quenched.
I am Dr. Jean-Claud Rubato. I shed a tear for Abed. I walk the streets and smell the perfume of a working girl, and then again I think back to the bazaars of the Orient...to Jerusalem, Acre, Jericho...I shed a tear again. I look at the working girl and wonder how much she costs, and then I think again of the Orient, of Tel Aiv, Haifa, Rishon leTzion...and think of how much they cost on that lovely street by Tel Aviv's old bus station...I think again for Abed...I think again of this street walker, and what I'd do to her once were on A BED. Oh, Abed.
You are but one more burning sun beating down on an already arid desert.
So they made a mistake, and killed Schiff's pal intead of Americans, Jews or other infidels. Daniel Pipes reported that Jordanian Queen Noor criticized the terrorists for killing "innocent Muslims", implying it is okay to kill others. Although at lot of Palestinians were killed in this attack, don't expect the Palestinians to turn against suicide bombings. They stil think "the bombers meant well, they should just be more careful in choosing targets next time".
Great, but you are remembering him with how good he was for you. However, many readers from Palestine may see it as a reason to hate him after his death as he was one of those who worked with isarelis and british inetllegence to stop "resistance", and someone who had relations to help people out on the bridge avoiding the lengthy procedures that the other ordinary relation-less people have to go through! Thanks, but really it was self focused from your side!