Not like other murderers
This is an appropriate place to make a request of the media and the public in general: Leave the newborn infant alone.
By Zvia Valdan Tags: Yigal Amir Yitzhak RabinA murderer is a murderer, or so it seems, and all murderers have the same legal standing. In his article, "Dangerous words" (October 29), Prof. Ze'ev Segal - referring to the demand to tighten the restrictions imposed on Yigal Amir - claims that "the law does not favor 'personal laws,' and adopting a law on this subject will also not prove beneficial, as laws can be changed."
Indeed, personal laws are problematic since a law and its enforcement have to be based on principle. However, it is under no circumstances permissible to treat Yigal Amir as if he were a murderer like all other murderers. A person who murders a social worker because she is a social worker should actually be charged with a double murder - because he killed a human being and because he killed the person because she worked in a certain profession. A murder of this type is different from the murder of a private individual or one that takes place during a robbery, for example.
This is true, too, of the murder of a doctor, a policeman, a judge and so forth. In fact, anyone who serves the public - in other words, a person who was appointed by the state to fill a public position - is worthy of and entitled to special protection, and anyone who dares to attack him or her must be included in a specific category of murderers: those who do not enjoy the rights that are accorded to other murderer-prisoners. And this is even more true when we are talking about someone who has murdered an elected public official, and on top of that, the prime minister. He must bear the mark of Cain forever.
My father, Shimon Peres, was also a "candidate" for murder by the hand of that same despicable assassin, who chose - in cold blood and in a premeditated fashion - to try to take the lives of elected representatives as a means of forcing the voters to accept his point of view; who cast a stain on an entire group of citizens, most of whom do not identify with him even if they do not necessarily accept the views of the late Yitzhak Rabin, and of Shimon Peres, may he have a long life.
This is an appropriate place to make a request of the media and the public in general: Leave the newborn infant alone. He does not deserve to suffer because of the transgressions of his parents, who did not hesitate to aggravate the feelings of the public by the demands they made concerning his arrival in the world. If the law proposed here is legislated, and the son grows up to see that his father was the worst of all murderers, perhaps he will some day ask himself for what and why.
The legislation of a law that distinguishes in principle between the murderers of private individuals and murderers who undermine the very basis of the state and democracy, and who harm the entire public - by attacking its emissaries - would make it unnecessary every time to discuss Yigal Amir once again. It would divert attention from the murderer and make the focus once again on the murder. And it would spare the children of Yitzhak Rabin the insufferable job that has befallen them: to have to intervene every time Amir abuses the country's legal system. It was not only their father who was assassinated. The rule of law, the democracy, and the entire Israeli public, both the supporters and the opponents of Rabin - all of us are the victims of that murder and we have the duty to remain on guard.
The author is a linguist and professor at Beit Berl Teachers Training College and daughter of Israel's president.
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This Murder Son is a symbol of the revival of the religious fanatics. This is why this murder planed a child.To made him eternal,a myth.He get advice from all those crazy rabis and has many Betar followers.Plus a stupid press that promotes that perverse campaign. All this talking about that murder is what they want.more talking is playing in their hands
by undertaking insane and undemocratic risks for the citizens of Israel as Rabin did?
In a civilized country you get rid of politicians you don't like by voting them out of office, not by killing them. I am amazed at the number of supporters that Rabin's murderer has. In the USA we have had our share of assassinations but the assassins or would be assassins do not have leagues of supporters like this Amir prick has. From allowing this killer to marry in prison; to allowing sexual relations with his deranged spouse; to permitting a circumcision ceremony to take place for the killer's benefit in prison, it is clear that the authorities in Israel do not appreciate the concept of incarceration-as-punishment and the deprivations that incarceration necessarily entails. Clearly a segment of the Israeli populace has a long way to go before it joins the league of the truly civilized.
Even if you don't agree with someone's politics it is a crime of the greatest magnitude to kill that person. Only a mentally deranged person could engage in or support such a deed. What surprises me is not that this idiot has supporters but the number. Shame!
They are reality of lives that were lost because of Rabin and some of us had a gut feeling knowledge much more than others that this was going to happen. As a matter of fact the majority of Israelis probably knew that.
Every life is valuable. Why do you free those who murder settlers and keep in those who murdered Rabin? It would best to keep them all locked up. But if you don't, keeping only Amir in means saying the life a leftist is more valuable than the life of a rightist. That's not right - not if you are a Jew or a democrat. We are all equal. EQUAL!!! Does the evil article author understand what that means?
discuss a possibility of taking an infant from his mother. if in your nazi infested country it is o`k there is no such a thing in israel, please live us alone.
And should have received the death penalty. That he should have been allowed to procreate is obcene, as is the fact that we all support him in prison. Never before did I wish that a father should know the pain of a child dying in utero, at birth, or anytime after. Igal Amir and that woman deserve no consideration. The gall for them and the other rightest to blame Rabin for the violence and terror attacks when they themselves perpetrate similar horrendous acts.
FREE IGAL AMIR
I think society generally understands that when someone murderes a Prime Minister it's different then your run of the mill murder. But I dont' think society understands that Mass and brutal murderes of Jews are being released or dicusssion of releasing them. Maybe society realizes that murder is not so bad. Please ask you father why was the brutal murderes of Danny Katz released-Did they do the murder or not. Or was it to harsh a sentance since they received a 45 year sentance instead of the run of the mill sentance for murderes. Do you sick leftist wonder why people are calling for the release of the murderer of Rabin. Can you answer the mother of Danny Katz(see below): Danny Katz's mother Mira slammed Peres' decision Wednesday, saying it was made out of political considerations in order to placate the Arab sector and help the left-wing in elections. "Peres had not even settled in the president's chair, and immediately rushed to free eight murderers, sava
Let us resolve from now on that the doings of Yigal Amir and the circus he has created be off limits. Don't read, don't watch, don't comment. Publicity is what he and his followers want; our one means of retaliation is just silence and indifference. If any of you watched the TV news and saw the smirking and hostile members of his family strutting by outside the prison and the rightwing supporters accusing Rabin of murdering Jews on the Altalena as a defense of Amir, you would realize the benefits of NO MORE COVERAGE, not now, not ever.
is that there never are referendums in order to ask people's opinions about anything. The people are left outside from all the big issues, which directly affect their lives. I see it as negligence and understimation of the Israeli nation, who are deprived from a chance to be heard by the parliamentary system. The Israeli "democracy" places power in the hands of a few leading politicians on top positions, who enjoy limitless freedom to steer Israel to whatever direction they choose; can we therefore refer to Israel as a democracy? In a TRUE democracy the government is answerable to the people for its doings as SERVANTS of the people. In Israel the gov. appears to be the MASTERS OVER the people! The failure of the Israeli parliamentary system hence encourages tragedies like Rabin's murder, unless it hearkens its listening ear to the will of the people and takes it into considertion in its national decisions! A dialogue on Annapolis' core-issues and Golan is hence needed!
Law is supposed to be equal for all and to all. Symbolically thats why the US choose to blindfold the Statue of Justice. In Israel there is far too much favoritism and its opposite (protectzia). There should be no differance between this murderer and any other. Otherwise, you might as well make two sets of laws one for the poor and one for the rich/powerful. Is that fair? By the way- Is the author suggesting that these same princples be applied to the assasins of Rehavam Ze'evi. I wonder.
I assume some on the political right are honest enough to acknowledge the role Netanyahu and others played in inciting Rabin's murder, whether deliberately or not.
All this discourse about Rabin and nobody mentions the fact that he was a mass killer and an ethnic cleanser himself. Collective amnesia i thought and then i remembered that if you look at the CVs of most high ups in Israel, they got there climbing on the bodies of dead Palestinians. His killer saved the world court the cost of a war crimes trial, but no doubt the verdict would be he same and he would have been executed for his crimes against humanity.
A murderer is a murderer the same as a human being is a human being. If the human being is an elected MK or PM it doesn't, or at least, it shoudn't make his life more precious and get his murderer a different degree of punishment as the murderer of a baker. The family of the baker will be as bereaved as the family of the PM or the MK.
Cant beleive these discussions. I am shocked and stunned that murders are allowed to start a family whilst in Jail. In essence it means that a child grows up with no hope finacially or socialy. Is it not enough the person takes another persons life without regard that the same person should be able to bring another life in the world only to create through his/her legacy a miserable existance for a child. I really wouldnt want to be Yigal Amirs son. I mean who would want to be associated with that. This whole thing is insane!!!!!!!!
To suggest that one persons life is more valuable than another's is beyond belief. People who chose to become celebrities, public servants know the risk, and the rewards. I'm fed up with celbs saying "leave me alone". I thought the murder of Itzhak Rabin was one of the lowest days in Jewish turbulent history. But Rabin was no fool he knew the risks. The same goes for Yigal Amir's son. Yigal Amir wanted a son, that obviously deranged woman who married him was willing to give him one, fine. Now Yigal Amir has two options, either changes his sons name, or let his son bare the shame that his fathers name will bring upon him. I feel sorry for the child, he should never have been born.
I very much hope the baby will grow up to be a decent human being, in spite of his subhuman parents and grandparents. The baby had no say in any of this and it's natural that the beast would want to reproduce. The disgust is with the Court that saw fit to give the monster a chance to reproduce. The only way the right will understand any of this is if a rightwing prime minister is murdered after incitement by leftwing politicians, then they would understand perfectly well what Rabin supporters are angry about.
"...and should there be any indications that she will teach him the same extremist ideology, he should be taken away from his mother and find a new home with the family of a Meretz voter." - DINO Sir, Removal a child from the family for "wrong" ideology? - Nobody took you from your antisemitic mother and placed you in the home of some progressive person... You grew up into nice person giving advice to Jews - it may happen even to the boy in question. How is the weather? No snow yet?
Okay, I conceed, the family of a Kadima-voter might also be able to teach Yigal Amir jun. a non-ideological philosophy of life. But I'm afraid everything that is right of Kadima will rather encourage him than keeping him from extremism....
You praise the murder of the man when you hate the idea. The way to get rid of odious policies is via the ballot box, not with violence.
the us gives xtra weight for crimes against federal employees, on duty. such crimes are more severely punished than similar against private citizens. but it is reflected in the punishment itself and not other rights, such as getting married or becoming a parent. the author, just like the rest of the hysterical left, is guided purely by revenge. stop trying to cover it with 'law' and 'justice'. while amir should stay in jail for the rest of his life, i see no reason for him being punished more severely than other murderers. just think of kuntar, who killed a child, and father, in a cold blood. he might even eventually get out.
Maybe then she would have a different opinion. Every bus passenger was a candidate for murder during the Rabin rule, what about their long life which went in bloody pieces?
This is a very slippery slope - anyone who is murdered is also a son, or daughter, a wife, husband or child. No one on this earth has no connections at all to other people. Once one starts with 'double' and triple' murder charges - for those who were killed 'because' they were also a doctor or social worker, or father, or lover, will soon find him or herself with the same ludicrous set of categories that used to apply to the pecking order to receive a telephone. Not only am I a worker, and husband and father, but also a potential donor or kidneys, member of the Histadrut etc etc. Someone once researched how it was that people could kill many times - but ended up with the question -that while going from the third to the fourth killing and so on might become 'easier' to understand, what was incomprehensible was how one could kill at all - 'even' the first time. No - a murder is a murder is a murder - that in itself is surely enough - this does not need to be qualified any further.
I am prepared to judge this baby as an innocent victim, until he becomes a consenting adult. What will make me sick is that inevitable use of the baby as a symbol by his "doting" parents of their perverted cause. And that is just a matter of time.
...and should there be any indications that she will teach him the same extremist ideology, he should be taken away from his mother and find a new home with the family of a Meretz voter. Okay, the family of a Labour voter would probab- ly also do it....
because of Rabin's selfish desire for a place in history at the expense of his people.