Nobel for Obama rules out U.S. strike on Iran

I think that The Wandering Jew in Stockholm should be even more worried than he sounds.Iran isn't just a threat to Israel and the Arab states.The Iranian government isn't investing so much in arming Syria,Hizbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip just out of hatred for 'the Zionist Regime'.They want to get their hands on western bases for their medium and long range missiles.If they succeed,all of Europe and North Africa come into range and can be blackmailed,including Sweden.That's why everyone has an interest in Israel prevailing against he terrorist threat,and they had better hope that Israel succeeds. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

Pakistan? You mean that nuclear power where over the last few days 37 people were killed in a series of Taliban suicide bombings designed to cut off army access to the country's nuclear weapons? Absolutely nothing to worry about hey?

The Noble Prize is a Trojan Horse of the Left Norway Goverment against State of Israel, because it will put pressure in the Obama Administration against the Liku/Israel Beitenu Israeli Goverment

It was reported many months ago (even in this newspaper)that the Iranian leadership had discussed that if they attacked Israel and Israel retalliated that they would be happy with an 85% loss of their population and territory. They believe that those people killed will become martyrs and given immediate entrance into Heaven. These people are willing to kill 38 million Iranians just to attack Israel and they're rational? Lets use a litmus test to see if they are rational. What country & government has killed their own people for non-violently protesting against irregularities in an election? Iran. What country has stormed a foreign embassy and held them captive for over a year? Iran. What country is arming terrorists around the world to kill Israelis and Americans? Iran. I could keep going but the point has been proven. Iran is very irrational!!!!

In all of this, no mention of the most sensible way to defang the enemy. Why is solving the problem which is the greatest irritant to the whole region not on Pedazur's to-do list? The issue seems much different seen from afar. The bigger picture is the only one that will make sense.

Esther are you sure you live in Tel Aviv your post sure doesn't sound as if you do. I LIVE IN A HOME ON PROPERTY STOLEN FROM THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE Tel Aviv was built from scratch by zionists in 1909 on land legitimately purchased in 1909. So if its a city built by jews and paid for with jewish money how exactly is yout home built on property stolen from the palestinians? There also was no such thing as a palestinian people before 1964 and the creation of the PLO. Before then the arabs defined themselves as arabs but the PLO got the idea it gave more legiitimacy to their cause if they became the paslestinian people all refugees, expelled by Israel so they had a right to want to destroy Israel and replace it with a palestinian state.

How would you know who is and who isn't innocent? If you can do that then perhaps you should be President of the United States Of America.

The God of Israel is all the protection that Israel needs. Times will be hard, but have faith.

As some of the other Americans have noted, Obama never seriously considered striking Iran, so the peace prize changes nothing.

You overate the value of the Nobel price in this circumstance. The Oil States and moderate Arab States have no desire to let Iran have Nuclear weapons. There are enough pressures in the region to force Obama to eliminate an Iranian threat at some point if it progresses. It would also stop an arms race by other Arab States to protect themselves from Iran by acquiring nuclear weapons.

As an American who voted for him, I can honestly say he has failed us! To those of you in other countries that adore him so, I say TAKE HIM! Even his biggest supporters here have had enough. Read OUR news once in a while Esther, not where you obviously get yours. NBC, better known as ObamaTV has begun referring to him as "whinner in chief;" The NY Times, as left wing as you can get, chastizes him regularly. SNL who went on the attack with Palin prepares its weekly insults to his administration. Obama is a failure. And if the rest of thee world wants him, TAKE HIM!

When are you planning to return occupied Charlotte to its rightful owners, the Cherokees?

Can state like Israel & its fanatic terrorist groups be considered as rational & be sure with a 100%?

"Can states like Iran & terrorist groups in various Moslem countries be considered as rational & be sure with a 100% probability that they will recoil from using nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction based on the assumption that they sanely will juge their own risks? What is the evidence? The answer in one word: Pakistan.

Obama gets the prize, not the iranians . They won't let him another solution than strikes for world peace.

Yes, I live in a home on property stolen from the Palestinian people. I plan to keep it. However, the rest of you, who actually don't live in homes stolen, should donate them anyway to the Palestinians so as to show them you are prepared to abandon the State in return for a world group hug of Jews. As I always believe, and as was written by Gideon Levy when he spoke of the property he stole, do as I say not as i do!

That would leave Israel with a decision to make, then. They can either attack Iran by itself, and expect no US assistance, or they can accept the fact that as it stands Iran has no nuclear weapon, and thereby attacking Iran in lieu of obtaining PROOF would cement Israels standing as rogue state (if there is any state left after an Iranian counter-attack). The thing Israel fears most about an Iranian bomb is not that Iran will attack Israel once it gets one, the fear is that Iran will have a guarantee that any Israeli or US attack on it will result in probable obliteration of Israel, much in the sense that Hillary Clinton said Iran would be if it attacked Israel - which, by the way, it never said - Iran has consistently discussed military action in the context of an Israel first strike. The thing the hawks in Israel and the Israel firsters in the US fear most of all though is simply that they will not be able to have their biggest neo-con wet dream realized once Iran has the bomb.

The fantasy amongst the Israeli right is that it can start the war and the USA will finish it. Americans are sick and tired of war. Don't count on support from Americans if Israel hits Iran.

Obama's premptive Nobel Preis was a very smart move from people who want to prevent a Third World War. Peace Now!

If Obaman had the courage necessary to destroy Iran's nukes, the Nobel Peace Prize would not discourage him. However, Obama was never remotely capable of a strike on Iran's nukes. The truth is, Obama is capable of little or nothing. Even the American media, traditionally fawning towards Obama, can't escape this conclusion. Saturday Night Live recently did a very funny skit making fun of Obama's failure to accomplish anything at all. Obama and his handlers are said to be throwing hissy fits all over the White House. It is up to Israel to stop the genocidal Mad Mullahs from making nuclear bombs.

Fortuna writes wisely.

Obama already has a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in Pakistan so what would the addition of Iran make in making him a man of peace or not? Iran's nuclear threat cannot be ignored because of a gold medallion, a piece of paper and a million bucks.

Obama already has a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in Pakistan so what would the addition of Iran make in making him a man of peace or not? Iran's nuclear threat cannot be ignored because of a gold medallion, a piece of paper and a million bucks.

There is just warmongering Israel asking Daddy to bomb yet another Muslim country cause Israel is paranoid. Why is she paranoid? Well, when you steal land, kill its inhabitants, box them in an open air prison, lock em up without charges or trial, destroy their crops, steal their fresh water etc. why wouldn't one be paranoid? You see Brad, the US has come to understand that it cannot kill/bomb all Muslims simply because they don't love Israelis. We don't have the men and Israel doesn't send any. Period. Now have tea and calm down. Nobody's kids will be sent to Iran to satisfy warmongers.

Well, alas, bombing Iran was not an option for Bush---only for warmonger Cheney, who Bush spurned in his latter term putting Condi out front. He came to understand that two states was the real and only deal. Cheney wasn't able to convince Bush to pardon his buddy in crime, Scooter Libby, and he still whines about it. However, poor Dubya held fast. Tea?

Bets are that the health bill will pass and with a public option so that all can be insured. Of course, Obama's detractors always hope for his failure. What a lot. You and others like you will save Israel from herself yet. Hope you have like minded friends over there.

And it will have a broad public option. Collins and Snow will jump ship. Pelosi will insert it in the final bill and 60 votes will be needed to remove it. No waterloo for Obama as promised by Fox News and their ilk. Obama just keeps rolling right along surprising his foes. Say, MSNBC reports that Obama is gonna let Russia see and count our nukes. Better dust Israel's off. With Obama's world popularity, he will be able to get lots stuff done like taming the insurance crooks. Even Price, author of the bogus late report, says they didn't count or consider any savings as they were not requested to. So what does insurance do, they report they intend to raise everybody's insurance and spurned the bill they created with Baucus. Bad PR move. Hello Medicare for all. We are the only Western nation who doesn't have it. So sorry, too bad. Tea?

Pedatzur's wishful thinking is based entirely on unproven assumptions and refusal to face facts. Iran is preparing for war with the democratic world. The only choice free countries have is whether to fight the mullahs before or after they get the Bomb.

....from directing more terrorism against Israel. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

... sounds as if you're one of those Repubs who raged on the Mall recently...

The U.s. promises its youth some education assistance provided they first fight in Cheney's immoral Iraq War. It's all relative.

Can states like Iran & terrorist groups in various Moslem countries be considered as rational & be sure with a 100% probability that they will recoil from using nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction based on the assumption that they sanely will juge their own risks? What is the evidence? Is it rational for Islamists to be aiming at imposing their brand of religion by demonstrated violence not only to all Moslems but also to everyone else on earth? Is it rational that Islamists endoctrinate their young people to commit suicide terror attacks with a promise of rewards for them in the other world? Have not several extremist leaders declared in the past to be willing to sacrifice millions of their own "holy martyrs"if this will ensure victory? Remember the waves of Iranian soldiers sent to their useless death in confronting the Iraki front lines during the 10 year war between the two countries.

Iran has never declared its intentions of nuking Israel. On the contrary, it is Israel which has threatened and continues to threaten Iran with bombing it. The U.S. is not about to bomb Iran anymore than France is ready to bomb Germany. The level of religiosity coming from Israel is beyond the pale. Et c'est toi plustot la culpable a voulair epater "le bourgeois," avec tes commentaires a la con.

Who amount the Past winner desevered Nobel Peace more than Obama,just name any 2 past winenr and a very good reason.

Those who are hoping Obama can perform the duty as leader of the Free World, even without the preemption of Nobel, would be disappointed. The reason is Obama cannot and must not be counted on in times or crisis. If Bush's tail curled between his legs, Obama is worst because he has lost his balls in the face of the Iran nuke threat.

You obviously know as much about our politics as you care about Israeli security. That one version of a bill passed a committee is a long stretch from law! There are now SIX versions with significant differences. To say that those differences are surmountable is a stretch at best. Stay at what you know best - fighting to return occupied Tel Aviv to its rightful owners!

Obama is destined to being a one-term president. The polls show it. His decline in EVERY group shows it. His biggest base, and the one he needs to be re-elected - the Independents - have gone from 75% support to about 40% and dropping! And the big test - 2010 when the mid term elections come due and everyone - even the most liberal in the country - expect to see significant turnover in seats held by Democrats. So take your ill gotten prize, together with what is the most corrupt administration in US history (tax evaders,graft,cop killers, promoters of suicide euthanasia and force abortions) and enjoy your forced retirement!

His economiacally inept,unbankable and unpassable healthcare plan is NOT gonna happen! Get over it and move on!

An Iraqi government report issued yesterday statedd clearly that the US and Brit military killed over 84000 civilians from 2004 to 2008. Will you be seeking or supporting an international inquest into the genocide? Since BHO took office, over 2000 INNOCENT Afghan and Pakistani civilians have been murdered by US and BRit drone strikes. How do you plan to address that? But then given yours and your people's standards, it appears that is well within the realm of Nobel Peace Prize standards.

...like Saddam Hussein wanted to causing instant invasion. Just add water and join the incredibly long list of countries that America has attacked, invaded or caused regime change in for oil or business concerns.

Iran for Israel!!! Golly gee, perhaps its because we are still mired in Iraq at the behest of the same group of neocon Jews who facilitated that ill gotten war, without losing even a shekel. Yep, the Kristols and Wolfwowicz's are once again banging their tin war drum against Iran. Oops, Mr. Goldstone intervened laying out some truths. Forget it. Iran hasn't attacked anybody. Israel attacks everybody, esp the defenseless. Have tea and calm down.

Many people miss a crucial point: Even if we could count on the mullahs being rational about the consequences of using nukes or supplying others with them, Israel would be utterly defenseless against yet another massive Arab onslaught against the Jews; Israel would be forced to surrender because - as Israel has proven - they are rational and responsible with nukes.

Unless it makes peace with USA and Israel. We may go back to Iraq and fight Iranian shiites in a year or two to help make Iraq a democracy (or keep it an ally of USA). We want the oil. Right???? Maybe no WWIII and Armageddon and strike on Iran in 2012, Sunday, March 12 5 p.m. est. but more realistically, a push to preserve our interests in Iraq.

The US has two wars going on right now, we are sneaking out of one, but we are being badly beaten in the other. Some Israelis seem to think they can get us involved in another war. That is a seriously wrong belief.

Once Iran has those A.B.'s, Turkey is sure to follow and as a deterrent to Iran, Greece, Armenia, Kurds, Syria, all those who threaten Turkey; and Turkey is now using USA and Israel to protect it from the threats of Armenia, Greece, Kurds, Syria, Iran who dream of attacking and getting their homelands back. That is how the spread of nuclear weapons happen. Can we stop it. Maybe not. Will Obama go to war with Iran. We don't really know although this article suggests so. Because once the USA economy recovers, we could. Everyone could have nuclear weapons or no one could have nuclear weapons; and nuclear weapons are not really a deterrent because who in their right mind would use them? The danger I think is Lebanon War II where people, envionment and economy were destroyed. These small wars do enough damage so that Armageddon may not happen 2012 at 5.p.m. est. but maybe one hundred or a thousand years from now when there is no earth to speak left in a livable condition.

Many lefties have asserted that Israel must make peace because the current status quo is too dangerous. This is nonsense, but it lends their suicidal plans the only legitimacy they can grasp at. So perhaps crying 'existential threat' is not confined to Lieberman and Netanyahu. While it was certainly true that there was once a real existential threat to Israel's survival (as in 1973) a concerted military attack seems remote today. Our enemies are not less genocidal, it is a matter of deterrence. There is no fire sale going on. Israel is strong enough to make peace on terms it deems reasonable or can live with the current status quo. In terms of Iran, no one should have ever thought that the US was going to preemptively attack and very few thought that the correct strategy. I think that Israel's strategy is to point out the dangers of Iran having nuclear weapons. If the only threat to bring on sanctions is the fear that Israel may act alone then so be it.

... to make it safe, you could remove its fangs. A de-scented skunk makes a great pet. Sometimes world peace is promoted by the right kind of military action. I don't see BHO being handicapped by the Oslo prize when the stakes are this high. In fact, it could be the reasoning behind the prize.

Military action was never in his mind,and it shouldn't be on Israel mind,because military action is not an option,atleast not a clever one.The gains are small,and the aftermath will be hell in the region.Deterrent is the only way. Obama doesn't need excuses not to strike,he never planned it,and will never do it.

Despite that several people have written that Egypt and Iran are the regional power,the fact is that Turkey is the regional power.That is what you all don't like. PERIOD.You don't like Turkey and Turks.PERIOD.Therefore, you don't like her strategic allies, USA and Israel.You don't like our selling Turkey and Azerbaijan weapoons which can be used against you, you who? Armenia? Kurds? Iran? Syria? PERIOD. The only real hope is for Turkey to establish this democracy move with all her neighbors; however, it will be difficult because Turkey's neighbors prefer to deter Turkey by having atomic bombs. AB is that for atomic bomb? So afraid of Turkey, rightly or wrongly that you must support Iran and yourselfs with Atomic bombs.Also, you distrust and fear the USA. Almost like Al Quaeda. Supporting Hezbollah. Supporting the Nazis; and in the worst case supporting destruction of Israel and the Jews. And that is why ultranationalists and extremists must be terminated in order to have peace.

The nobel prize rules nothing out,because there was never any plan on striking Iran.It is Obama remember,he does the talking,not the striking. Iran knows it,and so is North-Korea,and that why they will have their nuclear weapons,and anybody else that wants to have it. It is a paradox that the man have got the prize for TALK of nuclear disarmament,but instead the number of the"nuclear club"is growing. Nixon had Watergate.Reagan had Iran gate. Clintion had Lewinsky gape.Obama has open the nuclear gate.

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We've been hearing about an attack on Iran since 2003. And yet, in the absence of Nobels, it hasn't happened. The only thing that's changed is that now Israel can blame Norway for the non-attack, instead of the fact that the U.S. is fighting 2 other wars at the same time.

Against the war mongers and wolves who want to turn our region into ruin.

It is not a good thing that Iran will acquire nuclear weapons, but then it is probably an inevitable outcome of the fact that Israel has acquired them. The mutual threat that these two pugnacious states present to each other may prove to be their saving grace. I am not convinced that middle east peace is served by having only one nuclear bully.

Obama ruled out airstrikes as part of his presidential campaign there was no way he would ever authorize the US to carry them out or allow Israel and unfortunately as a result of the US X Band radar in the Negev there can be no surprises. In 1981 the US was just as surprised as everybody else about the bombing of the reactor this time Israeli jets will be ordered to turn around before they leave Israeli airspace. Nuclear ambiguity was an American idea not Israeli one and it took the pressure of the US. The sauids recently said if Israel doesn't admit to having nukes they would not develop their own program. Israel admitting openly to having what the arabs & Iran know will encourage a nuclear arms race not prevent it. Obama may be a Nobel laureate in title but in reality he is a nothing. He was given the prize for doing nothing 9 months into his presidency. He was nominated at most 10 days into his presidency before he had even done any of the things they gave it to him for.

Surely no-one seriously believes there would be anything other than grief to emerge from any strike, by anyone, on Iran at present, Nobels or not. It beggars belief that anyone might really be contemplating such a silly course. Sure, the rhetoric no doubt comes in handy. Always helps, as GWB established when running for his second term, to have the best "despicable enemy" you can find if you are under siege politically - either internationally or domestically! But a real attack? What, on earth, would be the point!?

His bitterly Republican-challenged all-American health insurance plan is passing through the legislative steps of approval... So maybe he is after all turning out to be the mover-and-shaker that he aspires to be...?! Watch this remarkable Peace Laureate...

You are still arguing, that a balance of mutual deterrence can be achieved with Teheran, because Israel would be able to return Iran back tho the rubbles of middle age. But that is not deterring Iran, they know they will survive unlike Israel and after the all to wellcome demise of the State of Israel the rest of the world will help Iran to quickly recover, as it was done with Germany and for the same reasons. Deterrence works only when destruction is mutual. And it is NOT, Iran will survive, with heavy losses to people and intfastructure but it will survive, BUT there will be no Israel anymore. Thinking of it I might just call my kids to come home. Israel has no protection left and martyrdom is no way to heaven.

This article gets to the bottom of reality by looking at what is practically feasible. Ultimately, those that cannot live with the fear of nuclear balance will fall victim to the trap of right wing politicans that increasingly try to gain political capital with false promises that a military attack would bring a solution here.

Bush said to Merkel: "you can't bomb knowledge". I don't think that the Nobel Prize ahs changed anything! Obama?s administration never contemplated bombing Iran!

obama may not strike iran first, but if Israel does, as a US ally, the US could then assist Israel. maybe this is armagedden in the making

The idea that the President of the United States would base the decision to attack Iran on the fact that he just got a Nobel Prize is absolutely mind-boggling! And Mr. Pedatzur follows that up with one ridiculous conclusion after the next. After all, look how peaceful Arafat became after winning the prize.

If Mahomad Ata was prepared to commit suicide with their aircraft passengers for Islam, why would Ali Khameini not be prepared to do the same with his State? I doubt your assumption as much as they are sure there will be 70 virgins waiting for them on the other side of the mushroom cloud.

Iran comes one step closer to being a regional power that. It won`t need to nuke anyone to accomplish this. THAT`s what Israel and the US don`t want. ** Only one comment: Nukes or not, Iran IS the regional power in the Middle East. I believe the US accepts this fact, but Israel resents it.

In the Iran/Iraq war there were 188,000 Iranians killed in the battlefield, many relatively young and driven by what was clearly a kind of Shi'ite death cult. In the decades since that war the "cult" has not waned but grown stronger. In its current form there is a strong belief among the masses that the event to trigger a "war of all wars" to bring about the disclosure of the hidden 13th Imman is a thermo-nuclear war with Israel and the West. Their longing for a bomb has nothing to do with self-defense but with a kind of "Dr Strangelove" suicide urge (not to join the Hale-Bopp, for Solar purification nor even for revolution as in Jonestown) for finality. A self-harming urge is fundamental to 13th Shi'ites and its with nuclear weapons that one finally moves from self-harming with sticks to the final Armageddon or "Great Battle". Rational? Sure. There are reasons but, from the perspective of Humanism, its madness.

"Iran is an existential threat" is Netanyahu's political credo. Giving in to Mr. Pedatzur's view would mean no less than to destroy the foundation on which the coalition and his own agenda is built. Mr. Pedatzur demands that he confesses to be a failure as politician.

"A clear Iranian recognition that any attempt to attack Israel with nonconventional weapons will lead to the certain demolition of Iran as a modern state should prevent its rulers from even thinking about using their nuclear arms." But this recognition already exists. No one has used nukes against a nuclear opponent. The first purpose of nukes is defense. The second purpose of nukes is constraining another country's offensive supremacy. This is what the brouhaha about Iranian nukes is really about: the fact that the US and Iran will no longer have conventional supremacy over Iran, because the Iranians have a Joker in the deck. Iran comes one step closer to being a regional power that. It won't need to nuke anyone to accomplish this. THAT's what Israel and the US don't want.

WILL become BETTER for Israel if it signs up to the NPT? Reuven approach is SIMPLISTIC in that he has NOT really CONSIDER other major FACTORS - known and/or unknown - that will IMPACT the decision of becoming TRANSPARENT. He also has NOT make a case that "losing its nuclear ambiguity" is really BETTER for Israel than maintaining the CURRENT status quo. After all, he ADMITS that even islamic rulers "do not commit suicide with their states" and that iran's ayatollah is "rational". Since this is the situation NOW, there is NO reason to CHANGE just for the sake of changing. All these makes his STATEMENT that "the end of Israeli ambiguity will spare us international pressure" NOT convincing at all.

But these articles really do reflect the thought process' of average Israelis. "The members of the Nobel committee effectively closed the lid on the American military option in Iran..." Operative word in this sentence is "option." If such a thing as an "option" existed in terms of dealing with Irans Nuclear program, it certainly wouldn't be missle strikes. Dropping bombs on other countries is what one does when "options" have been exhausted.

"A clear Iranian recognition that any attempt to attack Israel with nonconventional weapons will lead to the certain demolition of Iran as a modern state should prevent its rulers from even thinking about using their nuclear arms." - The Mullahs already know this, but that will not keep them from attacking Israel (either directly or through their aides from Hizbollah and Hamas).

Why should any one go into a war with Iran? Obamas goals can be achieved in an much easier an more human way. The Iranians, without any doubt, have every right to use nuclear power, so as we do in Switzerland. What Obama should do is, to free the whole middle east from nukes and make sure, that the Pals have the same rights as the Israelis. Thats all.

The idea of an American military option was and is a fantasy of those who believe that air power is decisive. It can strongly influence some situations, but that is all. Bush ruled out an American strike. Obama did also, long ago, unless circumstances radically change. Starting a war with Iran with half a million US citizens in harm's way never was a US interest, just a Cheney/Netanyahu fantasy. In the absence of an attack by Iran: *Is there a single EU nation willing to put boots on the ground? *Is there a single Asian or Australian or African or South American nation willing to put boots on the ground? Is Israel willing to put boots on the ground? Is anybody willing to tell China and India they both have to suffer a severe depression to make little Nikita in Teheran go away or shut up?

At long last an article that cuts through the hyperbole and bluster of Netanyahu and addresses the question of how Israel should handle nuclear Iran. After the sideshow of Operation Cast Lead, the real issue of the security of Israel must be dealt with. The Nobel Peace prize will prevent the US attacking Iran but Iran can be persuaded not to develop a missile delivery system.

Iran gave its child soldiers plastic keys to tie round their necks during the war with Iraq. Keys to Paradise. A society that is willing to sacrifice its dear children dont care about a nuclear horror.

Obama is not bound by a Norwegian politically motivated prize. He didn't ask for it, nor does it dictate his policies. There is no lid on the US military option because of the Nobel Peace prize. It also doesn't follow that Israel has to declare this or that. As for Iranian fanatics not committing suicide; that is a baseless assumption. They created suicide jihad in the first place, sending thousands of iranian children to clear minefileds in their war with Iraq. They are as insane as Hitler was, namely people whose decisions are not based on reason, but on compulsive fanaticism, megalomania and a cocktail of unpredictable and dangerous chain reactions. Reuven Pedatzur is wanting to epater le bourgeois with a cheap and unreasoned article.

" Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons means Israel's certain annihilation , the best thing Israelis can do is to start packing". This is what I understood from your article. Well done old boy.Thats the spirit!

The author fails to dicuss the scenario of an iranian proxy such as hamas or hezbollah (or even al-quieda )smuggling a nuke into Israel.I say never again means never ever again which means stike first because we won't have a second chance.