Israel should heed Obama's warning not to strike Iran

First,i am a gentile who supports israel.Second,in general the world dislikes jews and so dislikes israel.Basically your only supporters are bible thumping christians.Third,G-d is your only hope,your only way out.Unless israel truly repents,turns to G-d,obeys His laws,commandments and statutes,you don't stand a prayer.When the israelites turned to G-d in obedience,He stood by them.He really is your only hope.

Like the majority of all americans I support the state of Israel! The problem is that she will be making a big mistake if she waits for the USA to deal with Iran. We have invested so much of our blood and resorces in the Middleast, that If Iran needs to be delt with then we will have to see Israel sacrafice some of her young meen and some of her resorces. Dealing with this problem first! When that happens, and the American people see that then we will be at your side imediatly.

I posed THIS question: "What do you do if your attack dog won`t come to heel? Who needs a dog that won`t stay on the leash?" YOUR reply is: "Hezb & Hamas are the Iranian attack dogs` attack dogs. When Iran says bark & bite they do so" Then it is indisputable that: 1) THEY DO NOT SLIP THE LEASH. 2) THEY DO COME TO HEEL. Therefore you have not attempted to answer my question i.e. you have gone off on a tangent. PSM: "Get it now?" Yeah, I do: your reply was a non-sequitur and you are too thick to see that. *sheesh* Didn't anyone ever tell you that the secret of a debate is to ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT IS ASKED

attack dogs. When Iran says bark & bite they do so. They are their agents for further Iranian infiltration of Arab affairs using Israel as the traditional excuse for every occasion.Saddam did the same,firing missiles into Israel after he invaded Kuwait. Get it now?

sweetly explains professional cringer Mark Lincoln as a reason Shah was not able to stay in US. So the US heeded Khomeiny's requests . One more reason Israel shouldn't heed commands coming fom the White House on "restraining itself versus mullahs"

MOSCOW ? Israel is not planning any war, and continued Iranian claims to the contrary reflect Iranian concerns stemming from growing talks about international sanctions, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said here Tuesday. http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=168900

valerie is doing a poor job, while her bank account grows...........The incompetent iranian scientists do want jobs, not finished nuclear bombs............inform the iranian street of the stolen fortunes -,,,,,, safely tucked away in the bank accounts of the sneaky islamic revolutionary misleaders.........of course,,we need the first shot, and the end of the oppression and imperialist expansion of the khaminei mafia.......

The "offer" to Iran involves making sure that Iran send uranium out to be enriched in such a quantity that Iran, should it want to make a bomb, will never have enough left for making a bomb. Hypocrisy? Do you really think the Iranians are stupid?

Where is Europe going? After Israel? We are not going anywhere, we just watch where Israel is going. Make it a good show.

Since when have the arab states been afraid of the Iranian government? Iran and most arab states have great co-operation between each other. Social, Economical and regional ties. the only two hostile states would be Egypt and Jordan. Their leaders are afraid of losing their crowns if they support Iran & the people who are suffering in Gaza and the westbank.

PSM: "???" That just about sums you up, PETER. I pointed out that when an attack dog won't come to heel then that dog ain't much good to anyone. PSM replied: "JOHNBOY you should speak to Hezballah and Hamas" Why should I do that, PETER SM? Are you saying that Iran CAN'T control Hezbollah and Hamas? Or are you saying that Iran CAN control Hezbollah and Hamas? Which one? If it's the former then that's Iran's problem i.e. it is not my problem and certainly is not America's problem. If the latter, well, then you are a very stupid individual who flaps his lips but makes absolutely no sense. So which one, PETER? PSM: "JOHNBOY you should speak to Hezballah and Hamas" You. Don't. Complain. To. The. Attack. Dog. You. Complain. To. Its. Owner.

SURROUNDED BY ARAB FRIENDS OF ISRAEL? ARE YOU KIDDING?

military dropped from around him so all can see how he fairs!he has to have an security army around him to stay protected, he is so hated by so many! let him be threatened to lose his security;let down his hedge of protection,he cannot protect himself,he needs an army to do it!he will let his muslim friends get their nuke,just as he is bringing the US down to a third world country!he's letting our military go down the drain because he believes in less defense and more mouth!he's blowing hot air every day he opens his big fat ugly mouth!Only a stupid democrat could get away with the pulling down of this country like he's doing!the muslim needs to go back and run his own country and get out of the US,he's not even legal and only a democrat can get by with that also!he can be an illegal citizen and get by with it and if the people tried to remove him from office for it,his kind would burn down this country!all who call themselves Chrisitans are not Christians if they voted for this liar!

'The fact, that Israel is so despised by the Arab street, is the only reason why organisa- tions like Hezbollah or Hamas are still able to flourish.' But just how truly amenable is 'the Arab street' to making peace with Israel, Dino? Suppose, just for a moment, that Israel agreed to a Palestinian state within the West Bank and Gaza, with a capital at E Jerusalem - everything the Arabs want, except perhaps the 'right of return'. Would the new state be willing to live in peace with Israel, or would it become a cockpit of extremist violence, like Gaza, only much bigger? Would most Arabs in the new state and elsewhere suddenly learn, after over sixty years of hatred, to tolerate an Israel 'thrust like a heart into the heart of the Arab world' (to use the phrase of an Arab diplomat)? Would Israel's withdrawal actually isolate Iran, or would it be seen as a sign of weakness and only embolden the mullahs and their clients? I wish I were as optimistic as you, my friend. M

megalomania everywhere from all sides of israel

With respect to Iran, not Israel, being the belligerent, don't forget that in Israel now black is white and up is down.

Unprovoked attack? You must be sleeping. The fact is the fanatical Islamist-Jihadist regime of Iran has repeatedly threatened to obliterate Israel. Presently, they are feverishly working on their nukes so they can carry out their evil plans. Israel has every right to defend itself against the fanatics' Mushroom Cloud. You don't wait for the Mushroom Cloud shower. You preempt it from happening. Those who advocate Israel to wait for a Holocaust to happen as a sitting duck are no better than Hitler's henchmen.

You're asleep when the world is goingits own reality way. Shouldn't you have discontinue thi particular forum, as your mentor, Mr. Obama, is speaking out for different outcome?

Many of the posters on this board do not understand how devastating nuclear weapons are. If Iran explodes one or two nuclear weapons over central Israel our command and control systems will be so heavily destroyed that we probably will not be able to communicate with our airfields that are still functional, and we may not be able to communicate with our missile subs. Presumably the Iranians will be paying billions of dollars to the Russians to find our missile subs and the Russians take money from Iran with no questions asked, which is why the Russians invaded Georgia. The Russians should be considered paid mercenaries in service of Iran and they will deliver the S300 missile system to Iran. Israel has to hit now and hit hard before Iran gets any further and before the S300 defensese are installed. Barack Hussein is a Muslim shill who does not care if every Israeli is murdered. Barack Hussein is doing everything possible to stymie Israel's righteous might, he is the agent of Amelek .

a war between Israel and Iran would be fought in Syria, Lebanon and Gaza not actually Iran, the Iranian threat is only present because of its influence in these places, if Iran's influence was removed from Israel's border then there wouldn't really be a way for Iran to hit Israel with WMD's from Iran, they would easily be intercepted, but given the possibilities that Hezbollah and Hamas can now add the threat of nuclear bombs to there arsenal is the threat that Israel is concerned about. Israel can win a war with Iran by removing its influence in the region which is what the pre-emptive strike will probably lead to, not a hit on Iran itself. And America would never finish a war for Israel, i think the Yom Kippur war proved this that when it comes time for Israel's survival the only thing America can be depended on is useless ammo that they dont need

My dear countryman, in 1973, the war was begun because of Israelian occupation in Sinai and Golan. That was an specific situation. But if Iran attacks Israel by Nukes, the Jewish State will not become alone. Not only the US, but all decent and democratic Nations will endourse the necessary reaction. Let Iran give the first shot. It will be the end for Mullah's dictatorship. Luiz Felipe Haddad.

Obviously you haven*t been following the news from Iran last week, when she was celebrating her 31st anniversary? Namely, once again, Ahmadenijehad pretty clearly threatened "to get rid of Israel *once and for all*" in his address to the nation AND kindergarden children fired 650 paper missiles at the direction of Israel from paper-planes they had built as if to support Ahmadenijehad*s message. Is this not belligerent or what? Is this not provocating or what?

You Posted: "Here we go again...Golda was worried about Israel not firing "the first shot" and it costed thousands of lives in 1973,but thanks G-d the State survived.This time,if Israel doersn`t fire the FIRST SHOT,THERE WILL BE NO ISRAEL..." It would be the other way around. G-d forbid if Israel fires the first shot, Israel will be no more.

You Posted: "Israel has the power to nuke and wipe Iran from the pages of time, but Iran hardly has the capacity to inflict this type of damage on Israel. Israel has the 4th most powerful military on the planet.." As we all witnessed, Israel does not have the power to defeat the Hussballah in Lebanon and for sure does not have the power to defeat Iran. Otherwise Israel would not be asking the UN, Russia, France etc. to impose sanctions on Iran, it would simply fly over Iran and destroy its nuclear facilities as it has many years ago. The reason Israel is pushing for sanctions is because it knows it does not have the power to bully Iran or pressure Iran to stop its nuclear program. As far as Israel having the 4th most powerful military in the world. Again, this was true maybe 25 years ago, but not now. Any attacks on Iran and Israel will for sure will be signing it's own death certificate. Since Israel has a nuclear bomb, any country in the Middle East is entitled to have.

The world has been living with "israeli nukes" for years and no one seems worried that they will use them on a whim. The world does worry,even though they hide behind their fear because they are so frightened of the jihadists,that Iran will pull the plug because of their pure hatred and religious fanaticism. There is a difference between a sane country and a country of fanatical monsters that preach the destruction of another people on a daily basis.Can we agree on that? Now on to your last statement "your only option is to go back where you came from". My roots are in the Holy Land.That is where my people come from.We have thousands of years of history to back this up. Do you suggest that we return to the camps of Poland and Germany or to the days of the Inquisition? I need some clarification on what you are getting at. I assume it is not something that I agree with but you are not the only one who has no concept of what Israel means to Jews or no concept of the history of the region.

"It appears tat your right wing doesn`t value our umbrella or the fact that US troops are already in Israel manning Aegis radar of that US technology in the Patriots and SM-3s is not perfect." - Mark of Lewiston Rather it is well understood Mark. Israel can't win a war against Iran because it can hardly strike Iran. It can, however, start a war which it is felt the US would then be forced to finish.

"Shah heeded Carter`s warning not to fight Khomeiny and was not even admitted to the US when he had to flee." - Absolute Insane That is totally false. The Shah WAS admitted to the US suffering from terminal cancer. He was treated for six weeks at the New York Hospital. There was a warrant out for his extradition to Iran to stand trial for crimes. To avoid turning him over to Iran, he was given the chance to flee to Panama. To avoid extradition from Panama the Shah had to flee to Egypt where he soon died of cancer. As for the assertion that Carter engineered the downfall of the Shah you are also wrong. Opposition grew when he created a single party government, with mandatory membership and dues. The Shah had responded brutally to the growing opposition, just as brutally as the current regime. The demand he leave Iran came from Prime Minister Shapour Bakhtiar. It was only AFTER the Shah fell that Khomeini was able to return to Iran.

"Stop bothering about us, don`t foget who`s the belligerent here" - Dan Belligerent? It means to wage war, or inclined to exhibiting assertiveness, hostility, or combativness. There is not active debate in Iran over attacking Israel. There are only assertions that if Iran is attacked it will retaliate. So which is the more belligerent nation Dan? Are you not an advocate of an unprovoked attack upon Iran?

Discussion made it sound that way, but sure that behind closed doors, poker, or game of chess played, at least. Difficult to do over the phone.

your 100% right

It's already to stop them, at least try to partially prevent more drama by issuing sanctions and mourning how you miserably failed. Like we'd do anything without your consent while we need your permanent veto to stay alive. 2 years and a half to go and it's already painful. Way to go.

The day is getting near, whereby hamas, hizbollah and Syria will receive instructions from Iran to attack Israel.This will happen in two cases: 1.If the international sanctions become unbearable for Iran and 2. If/when Israel and/or the US decide to attack Iran's nuclear installations. Obama may be inept and naive, but he has enough experienced advisors to make him understand that, as a last resort - and even agaist the wish of the US - Israel WILL attack Iran's nuclear installations. It's absurd, since China and Russia, by dragging their feet on international sanctions, are precipitating an Israeli and/or US attack on Iran.

Here we go again...Golda was worried about Israel not firing "the first shot" and it costed thousands of lives in 1973,but thanks G-d the State survived.This time,if Israel doersn't fire the FIRST SHOT,THERE WILL BE NO ISRAEL...

Just hold on to your nukes Israel. It appears there is going to be one big massive arms build up all over that area and then frankly, I don't know what happens after that. Maybe something. Maybe nothing.

What "appeasement" are you talking about???? He blocked the Goldstone Report from every reaching the light of day while threatening tougher sanctions against Iran over nuclear weapons that don't even exist yet. Maybe, you should try picking up a newspaper sometime. It stuns me how many morons are able to get away with these posts on here.

Netanyahu is doing the right thing in trying to convince everybody around the world that Iranian nukes are a threat to world peace. And I doubt that other than Israel`s enemies anybody has an argument against it. The problem with Netanyahu is that he also drops many hints that Israel will attack Iran if their nuclear activity does not cease. The plain fact is that Israel cannot stop Iran by itself and its military means. It may be able to destroy a facility, but this will be quickly replaced, and Iranian efforts will only redouble. In the meantime, Israel will buy itself a dangerous enemy who will come up with some major retaliation. The "cure" will be worse than the disease. Better promote sanctions and UN action. The problem with Likud people is that they are unable to see the consequences of their actions. And talking a crazy talk might get Netanyahu convinced of his dreams and act crazily.

Iran is a lot of bark but very little bite. The fear of iran is legitimate; but the current level of fear is disproportionate to the real threat. It's REGIONAL COOPERATION that is now needed from Israel. In other words work with your neighbors, because Israel and Arab neighbors live under the same Iranian threat. Solve it regional by making peace. Attacks on Iran is out of the question. Israel cannot do it alone, and the USA can not take on the clean-up job from one or two errant Israeli attacks. Israel make peace with the Palerstinians, Syrian, and the Lebanonese. Solve the three issues: borders, refugees and Jeruselum.

Iran doesn't give a damn about the US. It's Israel that keeps making trouble. Keep dreaming, warmonger.

If Israel can go it alone, she should put her money where her big mouth is.

Israel is not as dependant on the US as people think. The substantial support of the US has only been in place since 1973, and is in decline. It would be possible for Israel to still be the dominant power in the Eastern Mediteranean without US support. This support of the US has often tied Israel's hands and has tended to ensure that conflicts are conducted from a political rather than a military point of view. This, in turn, has sometimes increased the loss of human life on both sides. Israel should delay attacking Iran because of three reasons. First, the Iranians are still a year or TEN away from being able to create a nuclear weapon. Second, the Iranian regime is unpopular inside Iran. Third, the Sunnis's or Gulf Co-operataion Council is concearned about the Iranians and it may be better to let them harden their opposition to Iran. Better to let the CIA, MI5, Mossad and all the rest bring about regime change with their dirty little operations.

Fred says it all. Modern day Israelis are not worth it, ungrateful and full of arrogance. The US should quit aid and quit trying. Israel caused their messes, and should clean them up. It knows what it must do: it is called the Green Line.

The Saudi FM just days ago stated he felt short term sanctions were not an effective solution to the threat posed by Iran's nuclear ambitions. The Saudi FM didn't spell out what he thought the solution to that threat was. He didn't have to. He knows the Iranian nuclear threat hangs over Saudi Arabia as well as over Israel. And whatever objections the Saudis may have to the lack of an Israeli settlement freeze, or to the slow progress in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks - they are as nothing compared to the House of Saud's desire to maintain itself in the face of the Iranian threat. The Saudis and the Israelis are therefore in agreement on a very critical, existential question. Don't believe for a minute this HaAretz op/ed piece that says, outside of the the US, 'no other country could or would aid Israel'. They may be strange bedfellows, but Israel and Saudi Arabia - and I suspect several other nations - are tucked in the same bed - and that bed ain't 'made in the USA', folks. MV

Everyone is presuming that a nuclear Iran would be a terrible thing, but since Israel is already a nuclear power, perhaps a Iran could provide some balance. Mutually assured destruction worked quite well in the Cold War; perhaps it could work here to. Only one issue beggars against that, however: the chance that a nuclear Iran could allow a weapon to get into the hands of terrorists.

even admitted to US when he had to flee.

paysants , with twenty enemies killed and the lost of two or three soldiers during the first day of marjah operation , accept that it is sign of real cowardice.you speak about idf failure in 2006 ok but accept that from 2006 till now hezbollah has not launched any rocket to Israel except rocket speeches!!!Hezboallah is not stupid , it retain its lessons that dont provoke idf.Unlike talibans continues to attack coaltion forces in agfanistan US army is the best equipped army in the world that is sure but IDF has the best how know in matters of war in the world AT last Justin if i have to bet i shall put my money on IDF than in US army for the succes of military operation

Unfortunately, our consulates will be swamped and the rent in Brooklyn will hit the roof.

The U.S. has been sanctioning Cuba for the past 50 years and ordered the EU to follow suit. The U.S. sanctioned Mao*s China also for 50+ years. The U.S. ordered sanctions on Iraq, too, which lasted 10 years. The only ones to suffer from sanctions are ordinary people. Naturally sanctions hold back progress and the availability of life*s necessaties, but despite them, nations do survive. Personally I do not support inflicting pain and suffering on people through sanctions. It is simply evil: an effort to psychologically and eventually also physically crush people and their spirit. The Tanach (Bible) says that "G-D curses those, who keep bread behind their backs from the people" ... therefore I do hope Israel will keep G-D*s Commandments, also this one.

Yes, in Europe, except for a few exceptions, all peoples enjoy religious freedoms; thus, muslims, like Christians and Jews alike, have the right to preach whatever they want in regards to their religions. So, from this quote, you are able to infer that he was caling for the destruction of Europe? Also, Ahmedinejad was quoting Ayatollah Komeini, when he said that "The Zionist regime will be erased from the pages of time." One could infer many different conclusions from this statement, and you and your ilk have decided to infer that he is calling for the desrtruction of Israel. Israel has the power to nuke and wipe Iran from the pages of time, but Iran hardly has the capacity to inflict this type of damage on Israel. Israel has the 4th most powerful military on the planet. Why are you so afraid of Iran? To assume that Persia would guarantee it's own destruction by engaging Israel is to assume that the people ruling Iran are the stupidest people on the planet.

Obama has the U.S. to work on. Israel has created their own problem let them Solve it. It not an American problem, it has already wasted enough time on trying to prop up Zionism

Your choices are to live with it as the rest of the Middle east is living with israel's nukes. israel is more agressive than Iran and is run by a bunch of politicians leading israel towards the abyss. Your only option to go back where you came from.

When Ahmadenijehad took floor in the UN in Nov. 2007, he on the podium, behind the desk, openly declared, pointing up his long index finger in order to stress his words with it, that "Islam will be preached from every mountain top in Europe" and he swore this in the name of Allah. Pl. NOTE: Imagine the place: the UNITED NATIONS!

If I were in your shoes I will pack and go back to your country of origin. Trust me it will be safer.

Hezzbollah strikes back with 40000 missiles and probably chemically tip missiles....Iran probably already has some radioactive material on weapons which will be launched against israel....with israeli warplanes out of the country syria make take a swipe at the zionist regime....not looking good there zionist

Remember the days before the USA invaded Iraq. Saddam told that the Amerikans are cowards, that soon they will be defeated, when they stod in front of Bagdad the ministers told that everyting is planed. "We wait for them just to defeat them . This will be the "mother of all wars" Than everything collapsed like an Potiomkin villages. I never understood why they did it but it looks like taken from en Greece drama. Once you start play the big boy you can't do anything else. Unless you lose your face. Much worse than send thousends of your own people to death.

Actually, the God of Israel promised that the Diaspora Jews would return to Eretz Israel upon the retun of the Messiah. So where did the Messiah go? You religious nutters don't even know your own nonsense properly enough to make legitimate theological conclusions based on your holy books. So, I ask again: Where did your Messiah go? He must be hiding in Gaza.

When did Ahmedinejad threaten Europe's existence??? Could you provide a source please, because as far as anyone who is educated is concerned, this is total nonsense. Thus, like your premise, your conclusions are also complete and utter nonsense. :)

we should not forget that Ahmadenijehad has threatened also Europe*s existance. Thus Israel*s and Europe*s fates are entwined. The longer Israel, with or without U.S.A*s help, is dragging her feet, the more complex this planned strike gets ... and the nastier it will then be, considering the casualties and the aftermath. Obama, the Muslim-sympathizer, naturally won*t interfere in Iran*s intentions to go nuclear. Obama is the U.S.A., don*t forget that! Besides he promised "a start of a new era in the U.S.A*s relations to Muslim countries" on his apology tours to them last year. Of the U.S. to help Israel to strike at Iran would make his speech hot air. Knowing the Americans* hatred of Europe, the U.S. could not care less, even if Europe too was wiped out. This I say with cynicism matured by life experience. What does this leave us with? Israel shouldering alone the battle for her existance again. Europe? Forget it! Europe has no defence!

The G-d of Israel has promised and he never breaks His word. Shalom.

You're kidding me right? Remember in 2006 when over 20,000 Israeli soldiers were routed by about 7,000 Hezbollah fighters? Do you remember the IDF running back over the Israeli border with their heads between their legs, not even making it to the Litanny where Hezbollah's strongest fighters were waiting. Do you remember that? With a fighter ratio of 3:1 and much, much superior military equipment, including tanks and air support... do you remember? ha ha ha Of course, in response, Israel felt it neccessary to undertake a full scale "shock and awe" bombing campaign over the civilian population of Beirut, destroying all civilian infrastructure. Ah yes, the IDF, the most moral Armay in the world...not!

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Another of your non-sequitur's, PETER? YAAAAAAAWN. Neither Hezbollah nor Hamas are AMERICA'S attack dogs, so if they go around biting ankles then that matters not one whit to AMERICA'S support for them since, of course, that support is already "nil". The issue of "putting a leash" on those two organizations is one that concerns IRAN, not AMERICA. And if IRAN ever decides that it can no longer control those Rottweiler's then, yes indeedie, Tehran may decide to drop them like a hot scone. But your comment? An exercise in pointlessness, PSM-style.

all that you mention is appreciated. a defencive umbrella, however, would make israel too dependent on the us. such an arrangement would be unpredictable. however, such decisions are not for me to make. were i the government, i would be hesitant. it has nothing to do with being of a certain political stripe, but more with being cautious and looking far in the future. without doubt, the alliance with the u.s. is much appreciated, but in my opinion, it should stay as balanced as possible.

Heeding this crap means be a sitting duck for the fanatics' Mushroom Cloud. This is exactly what the world of AntiSemites and Islamist-Jihadists want Israel to do. They want to see the Final Solution on Israel. If the fanatics can fly planes and destroy the Twin Towers and humanity without any qualms, they are capable of doing worst things when they have nukes in their hands. It is time to stop harping this crap and learn to be proactive in defending Israel from those who threaten to vaporize it.

let's talk of neutrals since allies and friends are unlikely to materialise. israel is quite secure in the south, regardless of hamas et al. she is also quite secure in the west for the time being. the problem is in the north. this problem cannot be solved while iran supplies military and financial aid and given the strong religious affinities involved. hence, iran must be changed by whatever means possible. furthermore, iran, as i had said will not give up its nuclear weapons program. peace between israel and the north would only make iran more paranoid. so it is not logical or desirable to link israel's other issues with iran. peace with the palestinians is highly desirable but appart and separate from the iran issue. iran should not be given an additional incentive for refusing to negotiate. nor do i believe that time limits could be met. in this regard i agree with the saudi foreign minister who has just said that there is not enough time for sanctions.

It seems that the relationship between Israel and the Palestinians is based on might is right or at least that Israel is the controlling party. When it comes to who has the upper hand in the relationship between Israel and the US, it is the latter. They are a source of money and military hardware. Yet, when it comes to this relationship you also believe Israel has the right to dictate the terms.

....but you are totally wrong on this one. If Israel could build a belt of Arab friends around her borders, there would be absolutely no way for Iran to threaten Israel. Israels position in the region is so miserable and fragile, because she is totally isolated and has no support whatsoever in her neighbourhood. The fact, that Israel is so despised by the Arab street, is the only reason why organisa- tions like Hezbollah or Hamas are still able to flourish....

Israel should act on its own. International community is a failure. Powerless to act and agree with each other. Each one comes up with his own interests. They are afraid and want to play safe. But for Israel, God will grant them sucess.

If Israel does not want to be beholden to the US in any way, it can cut the ties. Is that what you want? From your post I presume that what you really want is for the US to be Israel's "friend" but for Israel and diaspora Jews like you to dictate how that friendship should be. Why should one side dictate the terms, particularly as it that "side" who want the continunous feed of US money and military hardware.

It is understandable that America is looking for a diplomatic via or sanctions first. It wont work. The next step is a joint action with Israel against Iran. American interests are clear. By no means a growing influence of a nuclear Iran will be accepted in the Middle East. Both Republicans and Democrats in congress understand this. Obama understands this too. America has a realtively cheap garrison state in the M East and will use it at the due time. Iran reactions are predictable and may harm a bit, but nothing like a Third World war will happen. The Gulf countries will be happy and China and Russia will not lift a finger for Iran. Iran is doomed.

It appears tat your right wing doesn't value our umbrella or the fact that US troops are already in Israel manning Aegis radar of that US technology in the Patriots and SM-3s is not perfect. Perhaps they'd prefer that we took it home, and stopped sharing US intel, including satellite information. One poster here even expressed the thought that we'd get nuked. Rather gleefully even laid out a plan for an attack on the US. Sounded a lot like the Reps in Congress planning the next attack on NY City if we dare to put terrorists on trial.

can you count them? Why is it that only Muslims use their Mosques for 'torture chambers'? If your two factions could stop murdering one another, there'd be no need for a war to protect you from yourselves. Frankly, you aren't worth the effort.

....to hear about the "umbrela", unequivocally, from America's President and from the Congress. ...something that Obama NEVER said so far.

Iran has enriched enough uranium to make bomb, IAEA says | World ...19 Feb 2009 ... "They have reached a nuclear weapons breakout capability. ... The Iranians have stopped telling the IAEA about the production of centrifuges ... www.guardian.co.uk/.../iran-iaea-united-nations-nuclear-weapon - Cached - Similar

Haaretz says that Israel should follow Obama's lead on Iran. So Israel is not really a Democratic State but rather an American colony which is bound by the foreign policy decisions of the Obama Administration. This is an administration which George Soros helped bring to power, which has blasted AIPAC (Joe Biden), which has done nothing about Iran for 13 months, which talks about the U.S. providing a nuclear umbrella for Israel rather than preventing Iran from getting nukes, which Mirandizes terrorists, which gives terrorists the same rights as every American, which has learned in church that Israel is an outlaw nation (Reverend Wright), which routinely chides Israel but offers coffee and bagels to the "well reasoned" Iranian regime, and which is an abject failure in the eyes of most Americans as is evidenced by Republican victories in Virginia and of all places NEw Jersey and MAssachusetts.

I think that if Israel do try a pre-emptive strive they will find themselves 'biting off more than they can chew.' Its about time someone put them in their place after the atrocities they have committed in the past and also in more recent times.

chests so publicly and repeatedly."Incompetent" the Mullahs dont think so,what do you know that they dont? As you dislike the USA so much,why torture yourself?Go home to your brothers.I'am sure you would feel really comfortable in Iran. Unlike the Carter debacle,Israel did a very successful raid thousands of kms from home. Brother Idi Amin,the mass murderer was given refuge in Saudi,good enough for him must be good enough for you. .

can not afford a big war right now in the ME. It was weakened by the crisis and slowly is recovering. A broader regional peace deal would be better.

in that kind of operation , and your country has never end with success a war about what i know.I remember during the Bombing of US ambassy in Beirut with a death of more than 250 marines , US retaliate against Syria by bombing Sam site in lebanon US failed Saddly with the lost of many jets, When israelis succedd easly by destroying the best Syria airdefence provided by USSR.Maybe US can manage diplomacy but Military matters is a Israel field.Look at in Marjah they send 15000 soldiers to fight 400 talibans with not real success when in the sitauation IDF fought more than 15000 hamas soldiers in Gaza with a great success.So Natallie i say to about military operation you had better to trust IDF than US

iran's nuclear weapons program has nothing to do with the palestinians. it has everything to do with iran's thirst for power and hegemonistic ambitions. indeed, given iran's export of terror and all manner of weapons to hezbollah and hamas, there can be no peace as long as the ayatollahs and the revolutionary guards are in power. p.s. notice that i am being charitable for the moment by leaving out syria.

of the attack dog. Tell them attacking Israel comes at a price,no matter how many victories they declare. Or how they find uniforms to ponce around in in the victory parades. There was no problem between Israel and Iran till the Mullah dictators took over,so speak to them.Give them the benefit of your legal interpretations. They will surely take note of pages of verbiage riccocheting like a billiard ball off the cushion.

....a fair compromise on all the 3 core issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (borders, refugees, Jerusalem), a step which would all of a sudden surround Israel with Arab friends, and totally isolate the Iranian Mullahs. That would save us (the rest of the world) a lot of blood, money and nerves. Believe it or not, my Israeli friends, but we would definitely appreciate that.... And very much so.

There is no evidence to suggest Iran are trying to acquire a nuclear weapon, they are simply trying to offset the cost of burning more oil for electricity by reproducing it which with nuclear energy which is basically money in it self, this idea that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map is ludicrous, as basically, wiping Israel off the map means wiping Palestine off the map. The Iranians would love to see the Israeli Regime fall into chaos just as much as I, but that is bound to happen internally rather than having done by a bomb. Iran is a threat not because of it's Nuke program, but because they become a player in the ME which means Israel can't operate and bully anyone they want anymore.

May God have mercy on Israel if it attack Iran. I believe the leadership in Israel are playing with fire. Iran is not affraid of Israel. Iran is moving on with its future. They have learned a big lesson in the Iraqi/Iranian war and they will not be defeated. Israel will be wise to let the Iranian figure out their own problems.

I was checking out the place on the internet right now and that bit of information may not have been as helpful as I had previously thought it was. My spirit guide may have been only alluding to the 2003 saad abad agreement http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2009/09/has-iran-violated-its-nuclear-safeguards-obligations.html So it may have been only a warning to me and not some really valuable information like new reactor locations. Lousy dead people. It seems they can't come up with anything really good to talk about sometimes.

Up to now only Israël is a nuclear threat actually detaining nuclear weapons while referring to Amalek.

Apparently many still believe in the wonders of flying machines to solve all of Israel's security problems. Dropping bombs from airplanes did not defeat Hezbollah, they did not defeat Hamas, and dropping bombs from airplanes (even nuclear ones) will not defeat Iran. Making that mistake once was bad, making twice was stupid, and I'm afraid that making it three times will result in more than hurt pride.

Fortunarely Israeli security is in the hands of Israeli professionals, certainly NOT affected by the UNinformed, such as: The Automatic-DO NOTHING Ha-aretz editorial writer. OR the emptiness of: the silly response of #1, the macho response of #2, John"BOY". I only hope that the Israel will act in time and SUCCEED against all odds. moshe

No one in the US and Europe takes the Iranian threat as seriously as in Israel. Meaning no one is coming to help Israel in case of a preemptive strike. If Iran retaliates, Israel will stand alone and completely isolated to face the threat. So far all Ahmadinejad has done is talking, so I don't think it'd be reasonnable to launch an attack purely on words. No one would come to the rescue of Israel in case it's needed.

"Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." (1 Sam. 15:2-3).

anyone who defends the genocidal killing of over 1400 gazans in 2008,the day by day annexation of east jerusalem and fanatically supports the doctrines of strategic ambiguity and maintenance of qualitative military edge to israel is not only the most dangerous person alive, but is also the most serious threat to global peace .

" Do not fear, do not rely upon men and machines, your Everlasting Father will never leave you nor forsake you" 6 million folk were kind of depending on ye olde everlasting father, he didn't show up....instead, some guy called Adolph did....in return, the everlasting father was sold out 14th May 1948, by more than half the acreage. http://tinyurl.com/y8ewves/sovereignty-state-non-state-entity/#IsraeliDeclaration

Look at all the years of "peace" between the USA and the USSR: no atomic attack, no attack of any kind except "proxy" wars involving other countries. Even Adolf Hitler drew a limit on use of weapons such as poison gas attacks, say on London, for fear of retaliation. Is there any Ayatollah crazier than Hitler? I doubt Israel is under any serious threat of nuclear attack from a nuclear Iran. What Israel would lose is the advantage of being nuclear against a non-nuclear power, and it would certainly have to change the way it operates. Israel's real danger is loss of world support if it unleashes economic chaos on the world by starting a war in the oil fields that could soon escalate out of control. It is not really known how Iran would react to an attack and how far it would go. Is Israel willing to take the risk of bringing chaos on the world and losing its support as a result? Are Israeli politicians so blinded by their own propaganda that they'd destroy their own country?

So are you going to start that war too Israel? WHY can you not be content to live peacefully within your own borders? Why is Iran a threat?

Removing Israel (if it were possible) is not going to solve the third world problem of its neighbors any more than removing apartheid in South Africa has brought employment to the millions of black Africans. Minuscule Israel is not the problem. Apply the principles of the renaissance, give genuine freedom to women, educate your wretched populations instead of indoctrinating them with superstitious rubbish and stop blaming others for you predicament; this is surely more productive than blaming tiny Israel for all your woes. If the people who constantly criticize Israel were genuinely concerned for the plight of the downtrodden, then a good place to start would be the countries of North Africa, Sudan and most of the Near East. Envy is a very powerful emotion.

Next year at this time, if there still is an Haaretz, the editorial will say something like "We agree with the Obama administration that the Holocaust II museum ground-breaking ceremony should be in Washington".

I can't promise you anything but if I were you, I'd definitely check out the old Shah's Compound in Sa'ad Abad on the slopes of the Elburz Mountains in Iran with some intelligence. I don't have any. Anyway, it's just one of those itchy things a person cannot scratch. Have fun! Yosemite The Chinese Jew!

'Iran has a nuclear weapons program' meme. None. Zilch. Not a skerrick. Zero. The accustation is bereft of any evidence whatsoever. The assertion that one exists is totally unsupported by any evidence. In other words the notion that Iran has a 'nuclear weapons program is what we academics term technically as 'crap'! Your so-called 'experts' are just Zionist warmongers. Nothing else. If anyone actually had any evidence, it would be in the hands of the IAEA by now and being waved about for all the world to see.

America dropped the ball on this one. After occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, being able to invade Iran from all sides and completely controlling all traffic in or out, America decided to instead destroy itself. Iran will get a bomb unless Israel stops it and that bomb will be used, but how will the bomb be used? They could try to fire a missile at Israel and Israel would probably shoot it down and then fire back in a full fledged war. Iran is not that stupid, they will smuggle a bomb through a proxy like they always do. A Syrian ship full of Pistachios will pull into a Saudi-Run American port and that will be the beginning of the end.

There are no options , not Israel nor anyone else will act before it is too late, Like before the second world war. Many would like to see Israel do something, Those who will be glad to blame us as usual and those who hope for our destruction. In any case Israel will be the first one to pay the price, The West and the region will follow.

there is no "american defence umbrella." the obama administration has made it clear that it intends to let iran go nuclear. even the saudis know that the obama umbrella is full of holes.

Are you suggesting the same type of listening to Obama as, let us say, Neville Chamberlain did before that conflagration- oh yeah, World War Two? Grow up, Obama's side on this one is clear- he is an Arabist through and through...look at all is PLO friends...

...the help from G-D, not anyone else on this planet. HIS hands and eyes will guide Israel. Do not fear, do not rely upon men and machines, your Everlasting Father will never leave you nor forsake you. Peace be to all who believe.

If the Jewish State of Israel wants to survive they had better listen to Obama and what he says. They have made themselves a pariah amongst the nations and are trusted by no one. I doubt a tear would be shed if the country falls.

The only exception is may be the corrupted Arab regimes of the Persian golf and of Egypt but not the people of the region!!

and if you do they ar ready me thinks. Not that I like them but I find it ironic they are the ones to stand with the oppressed, and the supposed "good" guys are the ones who have been the oppressors of people in that region.

What rubbish..the very thought that Israel has to rely on Obama to survive makes me shudder. The shtetl mentality abounds in the haaretz editorial..why would any sane country,under threat from a maniacal leader such as ahmadinjad and his merry band of mullahs,depend on Obama and his merry band of useful idiots. It saddens me that Israel is in this position..no one to stand by her side against evil..but plenty of people to stay quiet and let the chips fall where they may. Could it be ground hog day again...1940's revisited with the only difference being that the Jews have a country that is strong and proud but is being held back by leftist peace niks who won't suffer the consequences that Israel will. How many times will this game of appeasement be played? We need to strike Iran where it hurts..right in the heart.

The author writes well. May I ask what his SPECIFIC contingency plan would be in the event that iran 'deceives' them and produces several nuclear missiles? (make no mistake, not one expert believes iran is doing this for civilian energy) ....the public just has to be told it in a certain way...so we all can pretend that we are hoping that iran will 'prove' it to us... which we know wont happen...it's all a game...its called, appease the arabs, and go for the oil... what IF obamas diplomacy and sanctions dont work? what then? what is he prepared to do? nuclear umbrellas wont work in the middle east. If he wont do it, it leaves israel with no choice...too bad for everyone else...but that wont be israels doing.

Who needs a dog that won't stay on the leash? Think about that, Israel. Think looong and hard about that.

..rather than attempting to raid and removing all doubts. Israel is not even remotely capable of making a successful attack upon the Iranian nuclear sites. Best that Israel pretend to bow to Obamas wishes rather than make fools of themselves as the Americans once did in their aborted raid on Tehran.