Israel's Arabs have been misbehaving lately

how else one can explain an misfortunate profet talking of misbehaving ethnic group known for penchant to violence and murder of Jewish neighbor, only to see them do pogrom a day after profecy was published in national press organ. In spite of gods laughing at hour preponderous self, I find your ideas good and correct. Even when racists incite and Anti - Semites kill and terrorise our Jewish families, we shell remember that racism in our hearts shell be extinguished. The timing and ongoing events are of no relevance to hard labor in strengthening personal virtues.

one day you will join us in the drive that nothing matters but this, however delivered. Until then we are a bit lonely but we are okay. Because we know that there is no other way. So, it's not you we are seldomly angry about but the time and lack of patience ( our own ). Look around... some of the things were norm 2000 years unthinkable today. Things will be better.

Let us stop fooling ourselves and our friends worlwide. Israel is not a democracy at all. In fact if we like it or not, In Lebanon there is more freedom than in Israel. All citizens there treated equal.

From the day the country was established we have been discriminated against in every walk of life. Our struggle is an economic one not political. We ask for discrimination to be abolished when it comes to jobs opportunities, government funding, private investment, land allocations, etc... Our contry, Israel has been disloyal and betraying us for over 60 yrs. Equality and true democracy is the right way to coexistance and peace which will only make Israel stronger and more secure...

Levy appears to have forgotten that an Israeli Druze-Arab (Azmi Bishara) also ran for PM post (Israel's parliamentary process varies in this regard from "classic-Whitehall-base" model of Canada, India, Oz and NZ--in all of which leader of either parliamentary-majority OR largest party in a cumulative-majority coalition is PM), and the fact that Arabs enjoy EXEMPTIONS from military service (they shill royally about this) just as Muslims in India civil-service jobs enjoy exemption from family-planning restrictions (government benefits to children of non-Muslim civil servants with more than two children are cut off, while those of Muslims continue indefinitely). Reality is that among countries with high-Muslim populations, Muslims have only enjoyed consistent democratic rights in Israel and India--and have been able to occupy (or aspire to do so) high posts such as Cabinet, State Chief Minister, State Governor or military-service chief!

women are the majority of passengers . so that leaves only 55 muslim states practising sexual apartheid !

Nothing special Gideon. Wherever there is a considerable Muslim minority in Western democracies, people turned to right wing exclusionist attitudes. That does not mean voting for radical right wing parties. The resons is that Socialist and labour parties are also adopting nationalist, anti Muslims positions in order to steal votes from the Right. That means that society moves to the right (because of Muslims) and nothing wrong with this. Israel is liberal if we compare it with French nationalist secularism which slaps on the face of Muslims, or of the new Dutch immigration bans which are clearly anti Muslim.

Nader, I hear you and am prepared to accept your truth as you see it. Are you prepared to accept my truth? To accept my right of return to the Israel that my people built and were expelled from 2000 years ago? Even without me showing you the physical stones that King David laid in Jerusalem?

Keep up the good work Gideon, Isreal, Palestine need more voices like yours. Reading many of these talkback responses, however, is proof of the uphill battle those who truly want peace, equal, rights and justice to prevail. I would say shame on them, but the truth is, that many of this responders are just too brainwashed and dependent on others for their opinions to have an open mind about such issues. They just don't have the mental fortitude to engage in a real debate on the facts, the truth. Get educated folks, not just selective info. Read, and understand the true history of the region and it'll start to make more sense. You'll understand why the world frowns upon Israel.

As it happens, Indonesia is a Muslim country and has a higher percent of women in its legislature than Israel does. As far as I know, they allow women to sit wherever they want in buses.

-- all 3 million of these irritating Arabs out of our midst back to Jordan? How about our building them a community in the desert? However, with our luck they would find oil and we would really be screwed

If an arab israeli can refuse service to an israeli soldier, is israel as fascistic as you say it is? What would happen in Ireland if protestant in the republic refused service to an irish soldier in uniform??

The reason why they were so quiet is no big mystery.By arab standards their treatment at the hands of the jews was far better than the treatment they had in store for the jews if they had won the war.They were exepecting brutality and vengance, insead they got health care schools and the vote.yes they did appreciate what they had.And for good reason.

Salem Awaad: "Of course no palestinian arab ,whether he/she an israeli citizen or under occupation would prefere to leave his country of origin-home land- permanently to any part of the world. " So, Salem, if Arabs prefer to stay in Israel, may be because it is not that bad after all? I mean we discuss this on an Israeli web sight, Dr. Tibi and his friends can fight for human rights from the comfort of Israeli Knesset. Copti gets nominated for Oscar. Sounds like normal life.

If one wants to encourage Israeli Arabs to leave Israel,use the Quebec model. No road signs in Arabic, government paperwork and services in Hebrew only except for tax collection. Local business names only allowed in Hebrew,Arabic language signs can only be 1/3 the size of Hebrew signs. Have professional Hebrew proficiency exams for Arabs that want to enter professions such as doctors,nurses,lawyers,chemists etc. Businesses must pass and obtain a Hebrew proficiency certificate to operate. Point Finale.

lanhars: "Which do you hate most jerusalem jew---the lefties or the truth." And what about you, labhars? Which do you hate the most - the Jews or the truth? I personally like truth and dislike demagogues - self-righteous, boring and mediocre

" Has anyone ever heard of an Israeli-Arab leaving Israel to move to Jordan, Syria or Egypt? ". Of course no palestinian arab ,whether he/she an israeli citizen or under occupation would prefere to leave his country of origin-home land- permanently to any part of the world. Dr.Ahmad Tibi and his fellows in the Knesset are democratically elected people and they represent the palestinian minority -over 25% of the original israeli population. We can brng together many hundred thausend bad zionists statements against the palestinian arabs since the establishment of israel. Dr.Tibi is a great fighter for human rights and he is an international symbol against discrimination and oppressive practices.

do impress me tell me where tibi has announced equal rights for 800 million muslim women ??

" our Arabs !!' is a completely wrong statement!! These arabs are the palestnian arabs who have deep roots in their home land.They are neither yours nor ours !! . They constitute over 25% of Israel's population and have the right to live as arespected minority . We can bring together many hundred thausend zionists bad statements against them during the last 60 Years. The palestinian minority in israel has suffered and is still suffering from humiliation, discrimination and suppression. Dr.Ahmad Tibi is a great fighter for human rights and an international symbol for minorities rights.

you kick a dog everyday and not expect him to bite you

hamas act like animals and thats why no one cares about them only because they fight against israel they way to get rid of hamas is end the occupation and hamas will be weak people are behind them for their fighters not their policy

The space shuttle is planned to be retired this year so may as well put those rocket boosters to good use instead of sticking them in some NASA storage area never to be used again.

In democratic states, it is understandable to have and express different opinions however, the language of a thought and the way it is delivered make a great difference.

Living for 23 years in Germany, I felt less discriminated against than here. This is a sad fact. My daughter 19 years is experiencing now the real democracy she is & will be facing in this country and as you wrote she is not "nice" about it. She is fighting for her elementary rights. She worked in Crocker and heard the terrible things said about Arabs from the Jewish customers, 99% Russians (they didn't know she was Arab 'cause her looks are German !!) and then, she was tricked out of her job (we remember the Croker Scandal 2 months ago !! I always talked about co-existence and peaceful ways to live together & solve problems with each other, but now with her facing all this what can I say? Those who think that denying democratic rights will keep the Jewish state safe are wrong, they are digging themselves a big hole, remember what Biden said in Tel Aviv University. I just cannot understand that no one has learnt from History all over the world. Aren't the schools to blame?

There ARE innocent people in Gaza like you or I who are getting a rough deal from every direction right now.So we do not need your stupid sarcasm and lack of humanity to compound the problem.

So...in an article about anti-Arab discrimination in Israel, Gideon Levy comes up with two examples - Both of which are stunning success stories of Arab Israelis who have done well, supported by the state, and made it unto the upper echelons of Israeli society. It doesn't take an intellectual giant to see the contradiction here... This article proves, beyond a doubt, that while there is discrimination in Israel (as there is everywhere else - which must be fought), still, basically if an Arab Israeli works hard and participates within Israel, he OR SHE can get ahead and achieve things. This is pretty much unique in the Middle East, and, though there is more work to be done, Israel should be proud of this democratic openness - and Israeli Arabs should get involved with the state, and participate - a bit of Yes We Can! would do some good. It is a shame that writers like Levy prefer brow beating, than nuanced observation and argument.

Gaza seem to be the geografical place to slide giant high speed convoy of sliced artic ice shelf,slide after hiting Gaza and slide acrose the ground to the Dead Sea Vally, the navy can tow the ice bergs into place and put the space shutle booster on some tug boats we can speed that ice up plenty fast enough

are'nt you trying a bit to hard to pick personally on Levy, considering that you're hiding behind a pseudonym? Why should he, living in Israel, be obliged to take up the cause of the Sudetendeutsche? Leaving out the real topics you just turn into a dumb propagandist.

... the noblest thoughts.

"First of all concerning research about opinions of Arabs about Israel and Jews look it up in Haaretz as there it was published" You obviously had it at your fingertips in order to cite it, but now it's just somewhere in Haaretz, so helpful.... "it is very relevant to compare the potential behaviour of a Moroccan in Holland with respect to how the Dutch would react to that. " It DIDN'T HAPPEN!! Let's compare somethings that did happen with .... well, anything we'd like to make up.... "Next time in your reactions first investigate the data I supply as I am quite informed" But not polite or helpful enough to give an actual link....

The reason Israel doesn't want arabs in the military is to avoid conflicts of interests. Other than Iran which does not border Israel all its potential enemies are arabs and the last thing we need in the middle of a war is an arab in the IDF suddenly decide his loyalty belongs with the arab enemies and starts shooting at his fellow IDF soldiers. The arabs living in Israel should be obligated to do some form of civilian service, there are plenty of jobs that could be done in the civilian sector the arabs could be made to do.

You're free to write what you please, I'm free to reply. The so-called unrecognized villages that most well-informed people are aware of despite their name, are in Israel proper, not in the territories. Maybe you ought to look them up. - Many Israeli Arabs call themselves Palestinians too you know, because basically, that's what they are. Unrecognized villages in the North (hameshulash) http://www.nif.org/media-center/newsletters/enews-clips/facts-and-figures-about-the.html Unrecognized villages in the Negev http://assoc40.org/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=286&Itemid=68 New Israel Fund on the ones in the Negev http://www.nif.org/media-center/newsletters/enews-clips/facts-and-figures-about-the.html We seem to be pretty cagey about the ones in the Galilee, but if you can bear to read an old David Grossman book, look them up in Palestinians in Israel. Happy reading!

befor you and any one else, jews were infidle to arabs, why they have to sing Isreali anthum, will settlers in Plaestinian territories do that i did not hear them. no one in this world can tolerate ar aracist regime like isreal. dont close your eyes, u just an aparthied stae nothing more

In Sudan it is not illegal to rape,murder,sell into slavery as long as you are Arab. SO? In Israel an Arab can kick an Israeli out of a restaurant or a university lecture. Aren't your pets just such victims.?No wonder you need to be here daily.

First of all concerning research about opinions of Arabs about Israel and Jews look it up in Haaretz as there it was published. Second of all 284,000 Moroccans live in Holland and soon will be the largest minority in Holland. So yes it is very relevant to compare the potential behaviour of a Moroccan in Holland with respect to how the Dutch would react to that. We as Dutch Jews learned and got instructed to obey the Dutch law first and foremost as they are our hosts and be loyal to the state. We say every Shabbat a prayer for the Dutch royal family now take the Israeli Arabs and compare their behaviour with that of Dutch Jews do you notice the difference CJ. Next time in your reactions first investigate the data I supply as I am quite informed.

I'm sure that at least some of what you think and believe is valid.However,you come across as the typical example of someone who has an immovable viewpoint,then tries to justify it by using points in favour,whilst ignoring anything he does not agree with. You equate ALL Arabs as 'the enemy'So stop and reflect on being in the mind of a 3rd generation West Banker who finds himself in a bad situation he didn't plan,plus being influenced by his older generation who see nothing but hopelessness.Just as most(secular?) Israelis hate the politics and just want to do an honest days work and raise children,most Arabs on occupied land need and want this also. Who do you think is building the housing for Jewish houses on THEIR land?Dont you find that ironic.? Remember Joseph,Egypt,being slaves etc?

equal rights, freedom of speech and expression and movement. INDEPENDENCE. that's what palestinians should get from israel.

I'm sure that at least some of what you think and believe is valid.However,you come across as the typical example of someone who has an immovable viewpoint,then tries to justify it by using points in favour,whilst ignoring anything he does not agree with. You equate ALL Arabs as 'the enemy'So stop and reflect on being in the mind of a 3rd generation West Banker who finds himself in a bad situation he didn't plan,plus being influenced by his older generation who see nothing but hopelessness.Just as most(secular?) Israelis hate the politics and just want to do an honest days work and raise children,most Arabs on occupied land need and want this also. Who do you think is building the housing for Jewish houses on THEIR land?Dont you find that ironic.? Remember Joseph,Egypt,being slaves etc?

as long as you use the terms allowed, u will never see Arabs behaving as you claim, coz you simply shouldn't allow them, this is there right, it doesn't come out of your generosity, Gideon levy i thought you were of the intellectuals who understand this fact and avoid the propaganda use, again Arabs just like Russians just like all have the right u don't give it...

by morons. Ak any Arab women about 'democracy.'

'we'll try to get rid of them another way: destroy their identity, cloud their national memory and turn them into Israelis, not to mention Zionists.' Kind of a silly idea. You'd certainly never permit them to become Jews. The general idea seems to be that you are to grind your boot into their face for all eternity -- and they will learn to take it, because they are subhuman. There's a certain diabolical innocence to it all. You so enjoy doing it -- how dare they object to it? When they do object -- particularly if they are driven to object violently -- it only furnishes further proof that they are subhuman. ...and so you were right to do it all along. It's like Amon Goethe beating his maid in 'Schindler's List.' 'Why are you beating me?' 'I am beating you because you asked why I am beating you.' The echo isn't coincidental. You're a nation of traumatized children, working out your own abuse on innocent victims. It's sick.

your point#2 is cute but you know it's not that. Most Arabs in their villages don't pay taxes, because the mayor can't or won't force them. Then the villages are bankrupt and get their water turned off and their municipal employees go unpaid and they scream to be bailed out. And the Haifa restaurant owner simply found a cute new way to discriminate against soldiers. Does that mean that cops can't stop by for a sandwich, either? I hope they get him for running an unlicensed restaurant.

You could've had your state in 1948.Instead, you chose to attack us. Result: your so-called naqba. You chose to invent hijacking airplanes, in order to blackmail Israel and the West. You failed.You prefer to call your streets and squares after suicide bombers who kill and maim civilians.That's why no one takes your peace overtures seriously.You want all of the land west of Jordan, despite the fact that 70% of the Jordanians are palestinians.Your leadership is inept and corrupt, e.g. Suha Arafat's biggest problem is what Gucci bag to choose.You spread a culture based on death, instead of life.That's why you'll get nothing, since you deserve nothing.

Suppose you're right about this not infringing upon any law: without the Israeli army, the restaurant owner would never be allowed to live in a democratic country.The fact that he didn't allow the soldier to eat there goes against everything the State of Israel stands for.As such, that restaurant owner, if he ever again wants to have Jewish customers, he should think about his allegiance. If it's his right to refuse any ISraeli soldiers, it is the right of everyone to boycott his restaurant.Democracy cuts both ways.

The diaspora/aliah cycles. You know, Gideon, all this is very well explained in the revelation of John. You just have to understand the symbols. The Holy Land is HaMedinah: the land of the judgment. The diaspora happens because of the injustice. The diaspora is the way God choosed to humiliate those who raised themselves by overwhelming the People of the Land and also the poors of the Jewish People. During the diaspora Jews have to learn humility. If they did, they would find the mandrakes (very difficult roots to find for blind people) : "measure of love and nices enough to climb the escarpment". If they don't find the mandrakes, they need (H)Armageddon: the mount of confisery, the forbidden tree of the cunning to joint with other powerfull nations. And the aliah is like the cycles of a woman (machzor). The blood flows and makes Jerusalem unpure.

You totally missed the point: it's NOT about freedom of the press.It's about the Israeli left sending information to international organizations as a weapon against a democratically elected government.I was talking about Israeli arab villages, not palestinian villages.They're officially part of the State of Israel.Consequently, they have to pay taxes, but many of them don't.Why? You have no clue, since you don't understand that the Goldstone report's original aim was to prevent Israel from defending itself.You obviously don't accept this right.I don't need your permission to write talk-backs.It's my democratic right.Freedom of the press does not mean to incite constantly against your own country.Maybe you should think a little before making empty declarations.

"If the arab Israelis want equal rights, then they should also have equal obligations: Regular service" JJ "Soldiers on their regular service National military service is mandatory for any non-Arab Israeli citizen (as well as for Druze men) over the age of 18, although other exceptions may be made on religious, physical or psychological grounds (see Profile 21)." wIKI They do hot have to---just like all the religious --dont have to. Why do you not require loyalty from them. Israel does not want Arabs in their army----must be a guilt thing---what you say---jeruslam jew. Maybe if you treated them better---they might be more comitted citizens. "the Israeli leftists are directly responsible for the Goldstone report and other international reports against Israel."JJ Which do you hate most jerusalem jew---the lefties or the truth.

why do you resort to lies---does the truth not work for you. "In Haifa, an Israeli-arab restaurant owner is refusing the entry of Israeli soldiers in his restaurant.Not only is this illegal, it borders on treason." JJ Here are the facts on this case---read them jerusalem Jew and see why Gideon Levy does not waste his valuable time seeking a meaningful dialogue with you. "A Haifa restaurant that ignited a media firestorm last week for refusing to serve an IDF soldier in uniform did not violate any laws, a spokeswoman for the Association for Civil Rights in Israel told The Jerusalem Post Tuesday. Spokeswoman Nirit Moskovich said the law regarding discrimination against people?s entry to public places did not cover soldiers or other officials or public servants in uniform, and therefore, the Azad restaurant had not violated the law. Relevant legislation, passed in 2000 following an initiative launched by ACRI, only covers discrimination based on race, religious affiliation, nationality, country of origin, sexual orientation, personal viewpoints, political affiliation, or marital or parental status, Moskovich said.

why do you resort to lies---does the truth not work for you. "In Haifa, an Israeli-arab restaurant owner is refusing the entry of Israeli soldiers in his restaurant.Not only is this illegal, it borders on treason." JJ Here are the facts on this case---read them jerusalem Jew and see why Gideon Levy does not waste his valuable time seeking a meaningful dialogue with you. "A Haifa restaurant that ignited a media firestorm last week for refusing to serve an IDF soldier in uniform did not violate any laws, a spokeswoman for the Association for Civil Rights in Israel told The Jerusalem Post Tuesday. Spokeswoman Nirit Moskovich said the law regarding discrimination against people?s entry to public places did not cover soldiers or other officials or public servants in uniform, and therefore, the Azad restaurant had not violated the law. Relevant legislation, passed in 2000 following an initiative launched by ACRI, only covers discrimination based on race, religious affiliation, nationality, country of origin, sexual orientation, personal viewpoints, political affiliation, or marital or parental status, Moskovich said.

of all those liars of yours who try to make the world believe that you don't want exactly this. You harm the Israeli leftists who try to make Israelis believe that you don't want exactly this. How "fraier" can you be? Do I need to teach you that first you have to pretend to want peace and get from those Jews all you can (peacefully) and only then you show your real face? Arafat's tactics, you hould know better. Regarding democracy, I doubt that you know the meaning of this word but thanks for this honest post of yours.

1. Remember Tenenbaum? He was Jewish. How did he land up in Lebanon? Was he not a security risk that Israel had to pay dearly to haul out of there? 2. If you live in that most interesting anomaly, a village that is recognized as unrecognized, you obviously don't have a municipality tax. 3. Your figure for Arabs who don't serve in the IDF is wrong. 4. Yehudi lo megaresh Yehudi. Remember that? Would you serve in an army that fights Jews? 5. The Israeli government is responsible for the Goldstone report. 6. Freedom of the press is not the back door. It's part of democracy. If you don't like this newspaper, go read one of the many others that play your tune.

If they look like us, speak like us, our progressives can accept them. This morning, I was pleased to hear Keren Neubach invite a colleague from the Arab service of the Voice of Israel on her daily programme. It's a first and kudos to her for breaking a mould as she frequently does. But one of the questions she chose to ask her guest was why, on her habitual beach in Tel Aviv, the Arab men are in shorts and singlets "just like our men", whereas their wives wear the hijab even when they bathe. The reply hopefully gave Ms Neubach food for thought: "what does it matter? Is that really the most important question we need to tackle in the context of the unequal treatment of our citizens?" Ms Neubach thought about it and conceded the point. Slowly the scales are falling away from the eyes, thanks to the likes of Gideon Levy, Scandar Copti, MK Tibi and others. It's sad that we Jews come from so far that for some of those scales, hammer and chisel are needed to loosen them.

In Haifa, an Israeli-arab restaurant owner is refusing the entry of Israeli soldiers in his restaurant.Not only is this illegal, it borders on treason.How come Gideon Levy doesn't write about this?If, one day, Gideon Levy wants to be taken seriously, he should become a lot more objective than he is now.It strikes me as rather absurd, that Gideon Levy, with his one-sided articles, is making a living, by stirring the Israeli arabs, the pals and the international community against Israel.Where does all this self-hatred come from, Gideon Levy? For once, I dare Gideon Levy to face up to my talk-backs and answer me.Anywhere and anytime, I'm ready to have a meaningful dialogue with you. You name it. I'll be there.Or are you lack the courage to face criticism?

Mr Levy democracy is not a byword and is never perfect- try the more complicated UK, plenty of rights screamers there. In Israel it will never be perfect society. Show me one democratic society where everyone is really equal or does not have complaints. and it is not as if the Arabs dont create that mistrust themselves. Look at the words of their MKs (fully utilising democracy) railing against Israel , few speak out or even like what Israel gives to all. The Palestinians under Israel have the same obligations as Israelis, No. The dont't. If there was a war would they fight for Israel's existence? I don't think so. They would wait it out and side with the victor. In Arabic we hear a lot of double talk. Sure there are those that want to be Israeli but it is not for love of her. More practical than that. Mr Copti showed that , and you have to love a country to be loyal. Mr Copti should be the first Palestinian in the new Palestinian State, it woud be logical for him.

"We will accept nothing but 100% liberation of Palestine." Then you will have to live with "nothing". Deny it as you please, Israel is here to stay. Peace and a Palestinian state might not be elusive if you and your brethren dumped this ridiculous notion.

If the Israeli arabs want to get equal rights, how come they refuse even to sing Israel's national anthem? Because it doesn't suit them? Is this why MK Azmi Bishara committed treason, but divulging secret milirary intel to hizbollah?The Israeli arabs, as a minority, get more civic rights, than ANY other minority in the arab and muslim world.Nothing prevents the Israeli arabs to move to another country, if they don't like it here.But the true reason why they stay, is because they gradually want to pressure the Jews out of the country.Any comments, Gideon Levy? Or is this way of having a dialogue too democratic for you?

If the arab Israelis want equal rights, then they should also have equal obligations: many Israeli arabs do not even pay income tax or municipality taxes. 99.99% of the Israeli arabs do not serve in the IDF.Why? For mainly two reasons: they choose not to, for reasons of allegiance.The other reason is that, whether Gideon Levy likes it or not, they are a security risk to Israel and cannot be trusted,e.g.MK Azmi Bishara fled the country, after he committed treason.Gideon Levy keeps on complaining about the rights of the pals and the Israeli arabs, but never mentions their obligations.Maybe Gideon Levy should start describing the leftists in his articles and discuss the following topic: the Israeli leftists are directly responsible for the Goldstone report and other international reports against Israel.Most of the Israelis have voted the Israeli left out.That's why the left tries to undermine Israel's national interest, through the back door.What about democracy, Gideon Levy?

Your Dad loved them so much ,pity they didn't want him . And those Chechs had treadt them so badly,so badly ,expelled all of them .. Wouldn't it be nice you took up the fight for them ,for their return to Böhmen and to Prag ? So you could get thye Doctor Honoris Causa from the ressurected German University of Prag ,place your Dad was so proud of ..

Some jews believe that arabs shouldn't get equal rights, big deal it doesn't mean they will loose their rights and has anybody thought to ask what context these questions were asked in? If you ask should arab rights should be dependent on them being loyal to the state etc I imagine more than 56% would say yes. There are plenty of seculars who don't like the haredi and say their rights should be dependent on them serving in the IDF etc so your always going to get groups who are disliked. Ask them should they not be given right as a simple yes or no question you will probably get another answer. Lets also not forget the arabs don't exactly go out of their way to make themselves feel welcome by jews. They live in their own gehtos, they are sympathetic to Israels enemies when others celebrate independence day they mourn the fact Israel was created. As for Tibi he was just trouble making as usual, it wouldnt surprise me if wanted to be thrown out as a political stunt

Keep it up ! THe more you open your mouth the more harm you cause! I say dont stop talking !!!

Remember the "Rape sheik" who said women not dressed modestly were "eligeable for rape"? Or the "uncovered meat" reference by the Mufti of Australia? Does that mean all Muslims are rapists?

Thank you Gideon. It is so good to read you.

is hapenning in your own backyard and hang your head in shame http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/12/new-pics-reveal-hamas-linked-cairs-backstage-media-coordination-in-rifqa-bary-case.html The picture above shows the parents of Rifqa Bary with Babak Darvish, an official of Hamas-linked CAIR. Here is the whole story: "Pics reveal CAIR backstage coordination of media in Rifqa Bary case and how the media kept silent," from the Jawa Report, December 14 (thanks to Isabella): Since early August we have been following the ongoing saga concerning Rifqa Bary, the Ohio Muslim-turned-Christian convert teenager who fled her home to Florida in fear of her life after her family discovered her conversion. Last Friday we reported a motion filed by the Bary's CAIR attorney with the Ohio court considering Rifqa's case demanding a ban and seizure of all Christmas cards sent to her from outside parties. We also broke the story of how CAIR officials were allowed to be present as "neutral observers" when the Bary family was interviewed by Florida investigators. Early on in this case we reported that the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) had convened a strategy session in Rifqa's hometown of Ohio where they formulated their media strategy in response to the negative press the parents were receiving: But a source who was inside a secret strategy meeting conducted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) earlier this week has conveyed the strategy that the media's favorite Islamist group has devised to respond to the ongoing public relations crisis. According to my source who attended the strategy session, CAIR officials handed out copies of this Orlando Sentinel article and want supporters to push the meme that Christians have brainwashed and abducted this gullible teenage girl. They have also instructed supporters to circulate rumors that Rifqa had been carousing with infidel boys and engaged in acts of immorality. This CAIR strategy takes the focus off the near-universal Islamic legal precepts and Quranic injunctions that demand death for apostates and impugns the character of the innocent girl at the center of this controversy who appears to be in genuine fear for her life if she is returned to her parents-----

Democracy doesn't work in a 12th century society, for a striking example just look at present day Iraq. Imagine trying to install democracy in 12th century Europe. It is not a question of tactics, there is simply no way to make it work when society isn't ready for it. Results of free elections in such society is always a dictator who cancels (makes farce of) next elections. Arab democracy? Maybe in another 500 years.

Zionist right-wing politicians in Israel have been misbehaving lately... after all America has done for Israel... has the invasion of Iraq been forgotten already? "Who's to blame for the Iraq war?" by Maidhc O` Cathail "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," a report prepared for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996, recommended "removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq-an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right." (read the full article: Sabbah Report 13 March 2010) http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2010/03/13/whos-to-blame-for-the-iraq-war/

A real democracy allows people to speak against it's policies also eqaul rights for all not just Jews israelis descrimnate against Arabs and sooner or later it will have to end

the problems start from there dude. the give and take is a 2 way street

So when you are getting out of Palestine. You arer as much an illegal settler in Arab land as any other settler. Get out of Palestine and then we will have democracy. Do you think we accept you because you are willing to partition our land. We will accept nothing but 100% liberation of Palestine.

worst than they are or percieved to be. They do it all on their own repression by repression step by step un-ending for 62 years!.....PEACE EVER?

"It can't happen here" You write serious subject matter with the same humour as Sinclair Lewis too!......Keep it up!!!!

The only place in the middle east where arabs enjoy freedom of press and religion and protection from arbitrary arrest is in Israel. Has anyone ever heard of an Israeli-Arab leaving Israel to move to Jordan, Syria or Egypt? What bothers them is that they are living in a majority Jewish state.

That way they will get everything handed to them on a plate while they sit on backsides doing nothing !

"Gideon we love how u find ways to look negative at Jews .." Point it out.. "Research showed that `only` 35% of Israeli arabs have negative views of Israel and Jews and 90% of Arabs." What research? I'd like to see it. thx "In Holland a Moroccan who .." Mmmm, creating a 'balanced view' by fantasizing a Moroccan Arab comparison that HASN'T happened! AMAZING!!!! "So do not make Israeli Jews look worse then they are or at least point out the negatives of Arabs too" 'worse than they are'? He hasn't. He's pointed out what 'they are'. You have tried to make them look less than what 'they are' by fantasizing a Moroccan Arab comparison that HASN'T happened in Holland.

Gideon, this is a step in the right direction instead of advocating for terrorists, as you often do.

Dear Gideon I am sure that you will get full democratic rights in all the Muslim countries around us and even more so when they take over this country. I am afraid you wish will come true. So, you, your children and Grand children can enjoy it.

Gideon we love how u find ways to look negative at Jews and Israel in particular. Research showed that 'only' 35% of Israeli arabs have negative views of Israel and Jews and 90% of Arabs. The recent poll at Israeli schools apparently did not ask any Arabs what they think of Jews this would have been interesting and probably Gideon would have found excuses for their negative views. Gideon would have been respected more if he would have had a more balance view of both sides. In Holland a Moroccan who would have been funded by the government would have had caused a public outcry and also if he was in parlement and demanded Holand to be kicked out of the OECD. So do not make Israeli Jews look worse then they are or at least point out the negatives of Arabs too. Just be fair nobody is perfect not even u.

Thank you, Gideon Levy, for being a voice of reason, and a humorous one at that. The American media could use a few shining jewels like you and Amira Hass.