Israel demands peace from Palestinians as its own racism spreads

I was just seeing what people wrote back, and this stopped me dead: } Yes Israel is peaceloving ask the people but } the Arabs are not. A square to be named for } a female terrorist who helped murder an } American beach tourist and 35 others in a } bus and car drivers is just one example } of the twisted state of the Palestinians. This is coming from a country that was run by Yitzhak Shamir, the man who while commanding Lehi ordered the murder of the UN Mediator who made his name and reputation by saving lives from Nazi concentration camps. I look back at the history my own country and feel no small amount of shame for some of it's deeds. The Tuskegee trials, Operation Ajax, Operation PBSuccess, segregation, etc. The fact that anybody in Israel can support this racist government, I'm ashamed my government supporters you bigots at all. It won't forever.

McQ: "Because Israel is asked to give up something real: land" But you haven't defined the relationship between "Israel" and the "land", and until you do that then your statement is meaningless. After all, this is not "Israeli land". The relationship is actually that of an "occupying power" and "occupied territory". And an occupying power merely has "authority" over occupied territory i.e. it does not "own" it. The USA occupied Iraq, and the end to that occupation required the US Army to relinguish its authority over the land. It is the same with Israel i.e. it doesn't "own" the land, and so it is inaccurate to say that Israel is being asked to "give up" that land. It merely "controls" the land, and what it is being asked to do is to "give up" that control and go home.

The leftist Jews happen to forget that when a Palestinian terrorist blows up a bus he does not care how many leftist Jews are in it. The Palestinians have DEMONSTRATED they do not want peace. The goal of Fatah (in their own words) is very clear on their website: http://www.e-fateh.org/paper_full_3.aspx Article (12) - total liberation of Palestine and the liquidation of the Zionist state economically and politically, militarily and culturally. Article (13) - the establishment of independent democratic Palestinian state with full sovereignty over all Palestinian territories [no two state solution anywhere in the goals of Fatah]

and I used to think it was Egypt blockading Gaza! The author should've also mentioned that Israel is responsible for the oppression of Tibetans and the plight of Tamils in Sri Lanka. These were rather "striking" omissions!

Actually Arabs in Israel seem to be more open minded than Jews in Israel: http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/268.pdf 6% of the Jews think negative about Jews ... 49% of the Israeli Jews but only 20% of Israeli Arabs think negative about Christians. 56% of Arabs in Israel proper are positive about Jews! There is little support among Israel?s Arab population for either Hamas (21% favorable) or Hezbollah (27%). 63% of the Jews have confidence in Netanyahu, 11% of Israeli Arabs.

Oh the irony!

...while the Palestinians are only being asked to give something abstract: peace -- and they can't even do that

pals should take it while europe was killing jews arabs were helping jews and there was peace arabs had no vote on a jewish state they were told here take it was that justice was that fair was it divided right

Next they will be telling us that bears use the woods as lavatories, or that the Pope has considered Catholicism.

Whatever is said or written the truth remains that the Palestinians do not wish an Israeli state in the Middle East and do not want peace. Their demand to return refuges from Arab lands to Israel proper and their refusal each and every time that there is talk about peace to cooperate instead of just demanding more and more sacrifices from Israel is their strategy of refusing peace with Israel. They are flush with succes of denigrating and delegimating Israel

Robert we know what you think you know about Palestinians. Robert, being a Jew does not make you an expert. When have you ever met and got to know an Arab, let alone a Palestinian? You have the perfect opportunity right there in Montreal, as many Palestinians are there as students. Robert, start from scratch and get yourself informed.

http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections/knesset15/elikud_m.htm Likud Platform: Self-Rule The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state

Sir, They do hate Jews as per Koran. Your personal prejudice prevented your little experiment in "what remains of Palestine" to be scientifically sound.

Is Egypt,or Jordan firing rockets ar Israel. Has Israel enclosed Egypt or Jordan? We know the answer. Egypt was returned the Sinai and made peace with Israel. Jordan has apeace treaty with Israel The "Occuied"territories would have been returned in 1967 were the Palesinians prepared to make peace and not seek Israel's destruction. Were I a young Palestinian, having been raised to hate and wish to kill every Israeli,I could understand that, but the conflict is deeper than that. Sadly they cannot look to moderates to give them guidance, for they have been killed or would be killed by the PA or Hamas leadership. When you begin to be threatened from within, as well as being surrounded by enemies from without, you too might seek some loyalty oath

if sticking your hrad in the ground keeps you happy---fine by me. You might try learning how to spell backwards while you are down there. Oh and about uber left sites---that is truly rich coming from you----"Pal watch".

In more than 2 years of living in the West Bank of what remains of Palestine, I never encountered a Palestinian who expressed hatred of Jews as you state in #5. From where do you get your great information? They hate Israelis for what has been done to them over many decades. Period.

Arthur, how many Arabs do you know personally? As an Israeli, have your experiences with these people all been negative? On what do you base your views on Arabs/Palestinians?

or policy. If quoting uberleft political scientist non historians makes you happy keep repeating yourself,it does not make it history.

Haven't you married a Jewish woman ,ultra Leftie one,true ,but still ,not a pal ? Show how progressive you are ,take a pal consort ,your wife would understand and approve ,aren't tens of thousands of Israeli pals bigamists ,with up to 4 wives and no interference from "the racist state"`?

the quotations in your post confirm rights granted under the 1920 san remo convention. that as far back as 1937 the jewish agency headed by ben gurion was the provisional government of all the 1924 mandate !! BOTH INTERNATIONAL TREATIES ARE STILL EXTANT

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, May - June 2001, page 18 Special Report Israeli Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Incites Followers to Commit Genocide Against Arabs By Riad Z. Abdelkarim ?The Lord shall return their deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.? It is easy to imagine these words being uttered by a Nazi leader in Germany some 60 years ago, or by a proponent of apartheid in South Africa just a decade ago. In reality, however, these blatantly racist and inflammatory words were spoken just a few weeks ago by Israeli Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. He was, of course, speaking about Arabs?during a widely broadcast sermon marking Passover, no less. In the past, fringe elements on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have made provocative remarks. These have largely been ignored or dismissed, however, as unrepresentative of mainstream thought on either side. What is particularly disconcerting in this instance is the fact that Rabbi Ovadia Yosef (who has previously referred to Arabs as ?vipers?) does not represent a fringe element of the political spectrum in Israel. Indeed, as Israel?s former chief rabbi and founder and spiritual leader of the religious Shas party?Israel?s third largest political party?he is an influential figure in Israeli political circles. Yosef has a devoted following of hundreds of thousands of Jews, and his political party currently controls the interior and religious affairs ministries in the coalition government of hard-line Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Shas leader and Interior Minister Eli Yesha reportedly defended Yosef?s remarks, saying ?they reflected the overall state of thinking in the Israeli Jewish society.?

As it will be demonstrated below, the decision by the Zionist leadership to accept the 1947 proposed UN GA Partition plan was nothing but a smoke screen, which was done solely to gain international recognition and support. This deception was a political ploy to gain initial international legitimacy for the existence of the "Jewish state", and this was well known to the Palestinian people. The reader is urged to contemplate the following Zionist leaders' quotes in an open mind. Note that most, if not all, of the quotes below are dated before the entry of any single Arab Army into British Mandated Palestine: * In a letter Chaim Weizmann sent to the Palestine-British high Commissioner, while the Peel Commission was convening in 1937, he stated: "We shall spread in the whole country in the course of time ..... this is only an arrangement for the next 25 to 30 years." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 66) * Ben-Gurion emphasized that the acceptance of the Peel Commission would not imply static borders for the future "Jewish state". In a letter Ben-Gurion sent to his son in 1937, he wrote: "No Zionist can forgo the smallest portion of the Land Of Israel. [A] Jewish state in part [of Palestine] is not an end, but a beginning ..... Our possession is important not only for itself ... through this we increase our power, and every increase in power facilitates getting hold of the country in its entirety. Establishing a [small] state .... will serve as a very potent lever in our historical effort to redeem the whole country." (Righteous Victims, p. 138) * In 1938, Ben-Gurion made it clear of his support for the "Jewish state" on part of Palestine was only as a stepping ground for a complete conquest. He wrote: "[I am] satisfied with part of the country, but on the basis of the assumption that after we build up a strong force following the establishment of the state--we will abolish the partition of the country and we will expand to the whole Land of Israel." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 107 & One Palestine Complete, p. 403) * One day after the UN vote to partition Palestine, Menachem Begin, the commander of the Irgun gang and Israel's future Prime Minister between 1977-1983, proclaimed: "The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever." (Iron Wall p. 25) * ""Shamir has said Israel must keep the territories in order to accommodate the immigrants. "A great aliyah [immigration]," he said, "requires a Greater Israel."(5) He has insisted that, although Soviet Jews are not being directed to the territories, any Jew has the right to live anywhere in the land of Israel, which for most Israelis includes the territories. As Foreign Minister David Levy said in August: "The right to settle every part of Israel is unequivocally clear even if there are disagreements over this matter. Israel`s stance on this issue is known."(6) Israeli and many American Jewish leaders see the matter as going to the very core of the Jewish state`s mission, which is to "redeem" the land of historic Israel on behalf of the Jewish people.

Alex, a palestinian picked up by the israeli police might on the other hand end up beaten and locked up in one of the many israeli prisons. i don't call that tolerance.

Poll: Half of Israeli high schoolers oppose equal rights for Arabs Nearly half of Israel's high school students do not believe that Israeli-Arabs are entitled to the same rights as Jews in Israel, according to the results of a new survey released yesterday. The same poll revealed that more than half the students would deny Arabs the right to be elected to the Knesset. The survey, which was administered to teenagers at various Israeli high schools, also found that close to half of all respondents - 48 percent - said that they would refuse orders to evacuate outposts and settlements in the Palestinian territories. Nearly one-third - 31 percent - said they would refuse military service beyond the Green Line. Advertisement The complete results of the poll will be presented today during an academic discussion hosted jointly by Tel Aviv University's School of Education and the Citizens' Empowerment Center in Israel. The symposium will focus on various aspects of civic education in the country. "Jewish youth have not internalized basic democratic values," said Prof. Daniel Bar-Tal, one of the conference organizers. The poll was commissioned last month by Maagar Mochot, an Israeli research institution, under the supervision of Prof. Yitzhak Katz. It took a sampling of 536 Jewish and Arab respondents between the ages of 15-18. The survey sought to gauge youth attitudes toward the State of Israel; their perspective on new immigrants and the state's Arab citizens; and their political stances. The results paint a picture of youth leaning toward political philosophies that fall outside the mainstream.

"while a culture of peace is being demanded of the Palestinians, the Israeli side is witnessing an unimpeded spread of a culture of racism." So, comparatively speaking, Israelis are bigger racists than Palestinians, right? So if a random Palestinian enters Israeli town by mistake, he is killed by passers by and his body dragged through the streets with the whole community cheering? (For those who may not know, this is what happened more then once to Israelis who made a mistake of wrong turn on a highway). Nobody's perfect, but comparing Jews and Arabs (on average) shows is a striking difference in the level of tolerance.

publishes rascist filth and incitement guarranteed to ensure there will never be any peace as you cry innocent victim. Men of honor eh? Hamas Launches Web Site Encouraging Kids to Become 'Martyrs ...9 Mar 2006 ... An entire section of the site is called "Stories of the Shahids," and the most recently posted story honors Hamas terrorist Naseem Ja'abari, ... www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=99839 - Cached - Similar

PA TV sermon: The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet says "kill the Jews" Source: Palestinian TV (Fatah), Jan. 29, 2010 A sermon calling for the genocide of Jews broadcast by PA TV, which is under the control of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas: "Oh Muslims! The Jews are the Jews. The Jews are the Jews. Even if donkeys would cease to bray, dogs cease to bark, wolves cease to howl and snakes to bite, the Jews would not cease to harbor hatred towards Muslims. The Prophet said that if two Jews would be alone with a Muslim, they would think only of killing him. Oh Muslims! This land will be liberated, these holy places and these mosques will be liberated, only by means of a return to the Quran and when all Muslims will be willing to be Jihad Fighters for the sake of Allah and for the sake of supporting Palestine, the Palestinian people, the Palestinian land, and the holy places in Palestine. The Prophet says: 'You shall fight the Jews and kill them..." Click here to view http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=571

Israel!

Blockcade, settlements,check points ,evictions ,arrests without real purpose ,no freedom of movement, descrimination, land theft Israel does more to incit Arabs more then any books or leaders can ever do

The one thing the author assumes here is that the poor Palestinian people just want peace with Israel, and if only the Israelis would stop being so mean everything would be fine. Unfortunately, these are the same people whose leaders torpedoed three previous rounds of peace talks by demanding that which Israel would never concede (primarily the so-called "Right of Return" of Palestinian refugees into Israel propper). They are also the same people that when given a free and fair election, chose to elect a terrorist group to lead them. Or how about when Fatah, the so-called moderates, had a chance to renew their charter and chose to keep the option of violent resistance in it. Israel needs to be pressured down the road for peace. But just as importantly, the Palestinian side needs to be made to give up their desire for the complete elimination of the Jewish State and be willing to compromise for a peace deal.

that the vicious anti-Israel Arab attitudes it tries to blame on "occupation" are virtually identical with the attitudes that existed before June 1967, when there was no "occupation". These attitudes were a cause, not a consequence, of the 6-Day War Nasser and Syria instigated. The school arithmetic books with questions like "if-there-are-7-Jews-and-you-kill-3-how many-are-left?" were found in UNRWA schools long before Gaza was occupied by the IDF, not just last year (funded by the USAID, by the way). It's the "Palestinians" who demand a racist, exclusivist state where no Jews are allowed to own land; Israel has a million Arab citizens and landowners, a minority that has done far better in Israel the last 60 years than recently extinct Jewish community of Yemen that was just ethnically cleansed with Obama's blessing. RACISM?? What "races" does this air-headed author think are involved, how's a Syrian Jew living in Israel a different "race" than Syrian moslems living in Syria?

Yes Israel is peaceloving ask the people but the Arabs are not. A square to be named for a female terrorist who helped murder an American beach tourist and 35 others in a bus and car drivers is just one example of the twisted state of the Palestinians. Zvi the outside world does not know enough about the radicalism and racism of the Palestinians. Take Gaza Hamas might not be radical enough for many Gazans and now Al Qaida is taking over. Is that our fault or are the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs perhaps very racist? The truth might be in the middle but.... stop blaming just Israel that is cheap and superficial.

Racism in Israel? I'm shocked...shocked to find out there is gambling in Casablanca? The Zionist dream continues its descent into destruction.

The "incitement index" is a complete and utter joke. No thinking person could believe otherwise.

This is an excellent article. The hypocracy of Israel measuring "incitement" by the PA...when nothing incites more than Israel's continued illegal settlement, walling in Palestinian villages, arresting Bil'in and Nilin demonstrators in the middle of the night, demolishing homes, ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem, passing "loyalty oaths"...Israel should take a look in the mirror.