Youth protesting settlement freeze block Jerusalem entrance

it will be a civil war. This government has become criminal in nature and is not serving the people of Israel but is serving the will of King Obama. The tyrants must go if Israel is to live.

for your human values and your zionism is: 1) a single state that recognizes the rights and privileges of ALL its citizens "equally". now look at israel...with its right wing and religious control of the government...and ask yourself what the odds are of that ever happening, or; 2) a two state solution, wherein the palestinians have complete autonomy and sovereignty over their own uncompromised territory. "limited autonomy" is impossible; because as long as israel occupies the west bank, the status quo will remain full force...because of the same forces i've mentioned above...and because the palestinians would never accept it. the clash between your values and your zionism is destined to grow deeper until you either abandon one for the other...or come to terms with the fact that the zionist goal was realized with the establishment of israel as the jewish homeland in 1948. israel's subsequent occupation of adjacent territories, and its settlements within them, are motivated by goals far less ideal than what zionism originally envisioned.

I don't know of another prison that: -Borders another country. -Has 500 underground tunnels into that country. -Has a vast smuggling economy occurring through said tunnels. -Can get any personnel into and out of the "prison" at will. -Can get any weapons and missiles into the "prison" at will. -Has an elected government. -Has a police force and army. Sounds more like a very unfriendly neighbour.

I recently returned from a tour of the Holy Land, which included parts of the West Bank and passing throgh the 'Wall'. If peace is ever to come to the West Bank then Israeli settlement expansion has to stop and the Wall has to come down. BUT the Palestinians have to accept that the WB is part of Israel and they can only expect limited autonomy (as Wales & Scotland in GB). I am a dedicated Zionist but as a Christian I feel the treatment of Palastinians as second or third rate citizens is inhumane, but I have to accept that compramise has to come from both sides abd just perhaps freezing the WB settlements might be a start.

So, in the event these Jewish settler protests escalate into violence against the authorities, will tear gas, live ammo., batons, and "stink water" be used to suppress them?

While they are at war with Israel Israel blocks its ability to wage war by bringing in missiles etc. Its called wartime siege. Are you saying Hamas manufactures air to ground missiles like the one they fired at Israel yesterday? Egypt controlls access to Gaza as well.Do they occupy Gaza or Israel for that matter by controlling access from their side?

When Gandhi preached non-violent resistance - i.e. blocking roads, he was a hero. When Jewish residents of the Shomron do it, its crazy right-wing lunatic extreme...

It's only an armistice line. NOT a border. "the general principle of inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war. That means that you can?t justify holding onto territory merely because you conquered it" Res 242 protects the rights of the Palestinians to ALL their territories, including what was conquered between 1948 - 1949.

This is all just a silly show isn't it? There is no freeze, not even a temporary one, with thousands of apartments under construction in the West Bank and thousands of Arab Jerusalemites being denied the right to live in their homes. Americans are catching on to this little show that Israel produces year in and year out. We're a bit behind the Europeans in this regard but catching up quickly. Soon the Israeli media will be full of stories about how anti-Semitic the USA has become. That's your response to every person or group or nation that refuses to pretend that there is anything other than land grabbing and racial cleansing going on there.

what negotiations ? the reality its only about the size of israels concessions.

The almost unanimous interepretation, and indeed Caradon's interpretation was that 242 called for withdrawal in the foreseeable future from basically all the occupied territory, but omitted the 'the' in order to allow for minor mutually agreed land swaps. It did NOT allow for huge chunks of territory to be annexed. Nor did it say to Israel, you can sit in the territory and keep the Pals captive for 42 years. Therefore Israel is in breach of 242 by annexing E. Jerusalem and other land grabs. When you take into account E. Jerusalem as you must, Israel has never offered the Pals more than 91 per cent of territory captured in 1967. Obviously it is also in breach of the occupier's obligations through the settlements and attempts to change the demographics of the area.

zadok the priest etc. Unable to post a single post which contains more than one thought. Hence the frantic oozie style delivery of the contents of harzion,s cranial area. Note he provides us with cherry picked statements by Lord Caradon--designed to make you believe that the good Lord C gave Israel--and Israel alone--the right to do what is pleases. He says so in an earlier post. Here is what Cradon said about stealing land---this will not be shared with you by harzion ""Knowing as I did the unsatisfactory nature of the 1967 line, I wasn?t prepared to use wording in the Resolution that would have made that line permanent. Nonetheless, it is necessary to say again that the overwhelming principle was the ?inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war? and that meant that there could be no justification for the annexation of territory on the Arab side of the 1967 line merely because it had been conquered in the 1967 war."Lord Caradon

and those who possess them? and their recovery to the rightful owners? the law says, "you lose, THIEF!"

"What Caradon thought and what Caradon wrote are two different things." No, cummings, they are not. You're just a fool who'd like to think so. The other two co-authors of the resolution say the same thing. THEY are the most credible experts for the interpretation of their own written work, not a jabbering fool, like you.

"Caradon was perfectly clear." He most certainly was! "I defend the resolution as it stands. What it states, as you know, is first the general principle of inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war. That means that you can?t justify holding onto territory merely because you conquered it. We could have said: well, you go back to the 1967 line. But I know the 1967 line, and it?s a rotten line. You couldn?t have a worse line for a permanent international boundary. It?s where the troops happened to be on a certain night in 1948. It?s got no relation to the needs of the situation." "Had we said that you must go back to the 1967 line, which would have resulted if we had specified a retreat from all the occupied territories, we would have been wrong." Now, cummings, argue with Caradon about his own interpretation of his own resolution, clown.

"They [Talibans and Mullahs] are embedded in all religions and, eventually, will take control, be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity." Except where the people believe deep in their hearts that religion and politics don't mix. There they will be regarded as criminals without an excuse. and be treated as such.

for example response to my comment on the Israeli tolerance of "Wild West" vigilantism, with the stock 'schlok' response: "ah but somewhere in the world there is / must be someone worse tan we" as if it were an excuse for continued unbridled Israeli offenses... these commentators remind me sadly of the old US expansionist cries of 'Manifest Destiny', 'Go West and grow up with the Country', or even [sadly increasingly too often]: 'the only good Indian [read Pal] is a dead Indian'...

a couple of water cannon followed by a couple of bulldozers, and pooof... a few wet kids and no more building... works with the Pals... and if the kids get in the way of a bulldozer that has not proven to be a problem for the IDF, at least if the kid is Pal or from the USA... no?

"johnboy "israel is a nation of unscrupulous carpetbaggers"" Yes! Indeed she is! No government has a right to do as it pleases. As for possession being nine tenths of the law, I would suggest that you ask Hitler about that little myth. Well....I guess he suicided because the world didn't agree with him. So how about you ask the French, or the German people?

"Police were not able to disperse the demonstrators" Obviously, the IDF and Border Police are not willing to use the same tactics agaainst these violent protesters as they routinely use against peaceful demonstratoers against the wall. No gas, no rubber bullets. It's time to see if the Israeli government really runs the show or if it's a puppet to the settlers. Bibi is a big man when threatening a demilitarized people, but he's apparently afraid of his own citizens. This raises strong doubts about Israel's ability to reach agreements about the WB and actually do as it promises. It complains that the Palestinians are not peace partners, but its far from clear that Israeli "negotiations" are in any way meaningful, that Israel can or will evacuate settlements if it agrees to. If it's not willing to agree to evacuate some settlements or if it cannot or will not act in accordance with any such agreements, it cannot negotiate in good faith.

"further it was not the poor afghans that were involved in 9/11 but saudis. " It doesn't matter. Neither does 9/11. One of the prime motives for the USA's military involvement in Asia is to keep the military-industrial complex from folding. The complex started in 1917 and has built itself up ever since. Similar in other nations. But Talkback does not publish the official USA line. Only what we citizens and others like us around the world think about it. We don't think much of any aggressor government, here or in Israel or anywhere else. Colonialism went by the board after World War II ended - about the time Israel declared herself to be a state. And so we say to you: do what is right, not as you do.

"what are you going to dowith the 3.5 million palestinians in the west bank" asks michael for the third or fourth time. 1 the figure you quote is a figment of your imagination,several demography have shown the figures are far lower. 2 you ask me for my personal opinion as opposed to that of the state.it is this. we will give the palestinians most of the west bank and we will exchange our settlements with israeli palestinian towns and villages in the vicinity of the border.there would only be one fighting force between the sea and the jordan and that is ours. the palestinians would have a state with no army.

to its far right, orthodox wing. Wanting to be "pure Jewish" and occupying "Judea and Samara" is taking the country down a self destructive path. Other countries, sympathetic to the plight of Jews, have taken them in with open arms (eg. the US),are watching and becoming educated about what is happening and impatient. The US should cut off all aid to Israel and Israel should refuse any more aid from anybody until it withdraws from illegal occupation and settlement. Tiresome drivel continues as Israel unravels.

there behaviour is nothing but diminishing the chance of Israel becoming a JEWISH STATE. The way things are happening in the Arab West Bank, stealing lands(I'm sorry there is no other way to qualify this inhuman process than calling a Spade a spade), soon there will be no land left for the Palestinians to build their State. Then, if Abbas, dissolve its PA,and refuse to have Bantustans on the West Bank, and call on the Israeli Government to re start the CIVIL administration of the occupied territory. The outcome could be a BINATIONAL State in the making, with one man one vote, + the end of the Jewish State. This is the sort of fire the settlers are playing with. can't they see the writing on the WALLS?

"since we already hold over 11,000 Pals in the prison, where will we put these criminal brothers of ours...?" You can start by building camps in the Negev. Ask any former resident of Ketziot, or any soldier from the brigade stationed there (I think it is the Golani), or any agent of Shin Bet. These people can tell you exactly how it is done.

I still dont understand why the PLO was established in 1964...3 FULL yrs ahead of any 'occupation'. Can you explain that? You do know PLO stands for palestinian liberation organization, dont you? What were they wanting to liberate in 1964? Do you know about the famous 3 no's at khartoum? What about the UN parition plan of 1947? or how about amin al husseini and where he was during WWII and what he was advising and to whom? Do you know any of this? one more thing...if a peace came about, would you then be truly ok with israel and jews? do the arabs have any responsability for their fate since 1967?

There are inherent issues in offering services and protection to citizens in territories that are non-sovereign.

Did you notice the similarity? Lebanon has a fanatic religious state in the state, namely, Hizballah, with fanatic Nasrallah at their head. Now we start looking like Lebanon: we have the fanatic religious Settler state in Israel, with the fanatic Rabbis at their head. We fit more and more the Middle East craziness. Nice integration, indeed...

Who said that the Taliban are restricted to Islam? They are embedded in all religions and, eventually, will take control, be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity.

All the "Sacred Texts" were written by people with agendas and an ax to grind. They can be interpreted to justify any action, anywhere ,anytime. Clerics and wannabes, and their adherents and followers must be understood to be criminally insane before any progress in Human Affairs occurs.

"you say our stay in judea is illegal.my reply is that possession is nine tenths of the law." Hmm, so you can't actually legally justify the settlements so you're reduced to a complete non-legal argument. Possession is NOT nine tenths of any law. It's one of those completely misleading generalisms that most lawyers would never use, for obvious reasons. It's not true! You might as well say 'might is right', because that's all Israel has on its side in this case, and that's changing as the world turns against Israel and the occupation.

disrupt the life of "regular" Israelis , the more the country comes to the realization that the settlers are nothing but a "meance" . The settlers can get away with things in the West bank , but they might not be able to get away with their thuggish ways within the green line.

"Dozens of girls from the local religious school spread out across the road leading up to Revava, while another 200 youth stood at the gates to Ma'aleh Levona, where they had piled rocks as a blockade." Are Isreali Settlers using children as human shields. Or is that just a tactic others use, and the Israelis have a nicer name for it for when they do it. Not to worry though, the IDF has proven time and time again that they will not fall for these tactics, they will attack, kill and justify later. I think the Palestinians are holding out for an Israeli civil war.

i am not a lawyer and you appear to be an international law expert. you are so sure of your case you should be leading the israeli legal team to the international court of justice where i am sure you will win and the un eu et al will need to comply. in the meantime answer one question - what do you intend to do with the 3.5 million arabs you are going to inherit with the territories?

It is eternally baffling that folks on the right have no clue about the position of the Israeli Government concerning the status of Gaza. The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs is adamant that Israel is STILL the Legal Occupying Power in Gaza and that it has retained ALL rights pertaining to that status. This concept is so difficult for some to grasp that they simply deny it is true. But it is quite true. It is the legal basis for Israel's control over the borders, coast and airspace of Gaza.

you say our stay in judea is illegal.my reply is that possession is nine tenths of the law.

The Israel Government must immediately announce that there will be no IDF protection for any settlement that bars government officials from carrying out their duties. These settlements only exist because the IDF protects them against the majority Palestinian population. The Arabs will wipe them off the map the minute there is no Army presence and these settlers must learn that they cannot defy their protectors.

well when the jews were and still silent you still say they are troublemakers. But you never say about the Palestinians being that way. So, what you are telling me Naomi it is okay for a person to killing you and take your house but you will just stand and let them stab you and take your house? Where do you live by the way?I Assume America, or Europe. Would you like it if the Chinese president tells you that you cannot live the your house because the gangsters outside did not like it?! Answer that and then talk about troublemakers. Otherwise, your comments mean doo kee!

so cummings our withdrawl is not valid because we did not inform those who say they are at war with us?

are two different things. He thought the Green Line an unsuitable boundary. So what, the wording doesn't mention the Green Line? What he wrote though was that Israel must get out of occupied territories. What does that mean exactly? The land that Israel occupies is everything BEYOND THE 1947 BORDERS, which is the only land it has ever declared sovereignty over. Harzion and others need to take this simple fact on board: Israel has never declared sovereignty over the land it won in 1948, so it is occupied territory - yes, Beersheba, Sederot, land bordering Gaza and much of the North. Caradon's wording lleaves open a Pal claim to these areas. When the Palestinians offer to settle for the Green Line or thereabouts, they are generously not pressing their claim, so far, to these parts of Israel. Generous or foolish of them, who is to say? I didn't need to check Wikipedia for these basics Harzion, it is all well known and pretty basic stuff!

not quite sure what you mean cummings.do you mean zionists?

cummings since you copied the dog bit from wikipedia should you not have told us so?

The right continually argues that Israel ended the occupation of Gaza and look what happened - missiles kept coming from Gaza. Ergo, we cannot end the occupation of the West Bank because the same thing could happen. Talk about compartmentalised thinking! Gaza is a small and currently secessionist part of Palestine. Israel did not end its occupation of Palestine when it left one corner of it. When it has left ALL of it and pulled back to the Green Line, only then can it insist on an end to resistance and hostilities. The unilateral Gaza pullout, without prior agreement with the PA or recognition of Gaza's future status, was just one more blot on Israel's record of never missing an opportunity to bungle an opportunity.

cummings copied word for word the entry in wikipedia but left out the part where lord caradon noted he found the 1967 lines "unsatisfactory".

of the unsatisfactory 1967 lines."

well johnboy you are free to call us names.i would rather debate the facts. lord caradon made it clear on numerous occasions israel has a right to a part of the west bank. since we have offered to withdraw from over 95% of the area and were rejected israel has a right to do as it pleases.and one more maxim johnboy.possession is nine tenths of the law.

Harzion is not up to date in his claim that, were we truly concerned about the Palestinians, we would wish them anything but Jordanian law. Their laws are currently based on a mix of Ottoman, British and Jordanian rules and precedents. The EU has been working with the PA for two years+ to codify these, remove contradictory laws and produce a modern jurisprudence system suited to a (nominally) Muslim democracy. In short, Palestine is not and will not be under 'Jordanian laws'.

When Israel declared independence it relied heaviliy for legitimacy in its declaration on the 1947 GA plan. By using this as to claim legitimacy, even though, it avoided explicitly accepting the borders, it implicitly did so. You can't rely on the GA vote and then ignore entirely one of its most major provisions. The world and the international court of justice only recognises Israeli sovereignty within th 1967 borders. And Israel itself, of course, with the exception of E. Jerusalem does not claim sovereignty over the West Bank. It could hardly do do, because then it would have to offer the Arabs there Israeli citozenship. The Israeli high court recognised that Israeli is in belligerent occupation of the West Bank. Israel has basically no legitimate claim to any of the West Bank and any pretence that it does is a carefully constructed Zionist myth.

Lord Caradon's wording of UN resolution 242 is perfectly clear to all who know the language. The statement that Israel should "withdraw from occupied territories" does not need the definite article in English, i.e. "THE occupied territories", and therefore does not use it in diplomatic English. The commonly-used legal example is a sign saying "Dogs must be kept on a lead in the park'. It does not need to say ALL dogs, the meaning is clear. You would not succeed in court by arguing that your dog was in some way exempt! This is just another of these enterprising but flimsy stories the uber Zios have concocted to provide a figleaf for their settler enterprise. Just do what Caradon and the UN stipulated, get out of the Occupied Territories, ALL of them, do it now. Everyone knows that an army of occupation cannot lawfully settle its own citizens in an occupied territory, that is a fundamental tenet of modern international law to which there is no argument.

from home to kill afghan muslims while we defend our borders at home and are told off. further it was not the poor afghans that were involved in 9/11 but saudis. so the uk germany the usa and france tell israel do as we say not as we do.

h: "lord caradon wrote in resolution 242israel should 'withdraw from occupied territories' leaving out the all important 'the'.so not all of the region was intended to be palestine." Even if we accept that argument (and Caradon himself disputed it) you are still left with this problem: UNTIL those "intentions" are worked out THEN this territory is still merely "Israeli occupied", and therefore Israel's actions are constrained by the laws of occupation. h: "until that is decided israel will live where it pleases." An occupying power is not entitled to "do as it pleases" inside occupied territory, harzion. It is an "occupier", not a feudal warlord. Isn't it about time that Israel lived up to the int'l obligations that come with this occupation, rather than acting as a nation of unscrupulous carpet-baggers?

h: "and of course the 1967 lines are armistice lines" Of course. Mind you, the Palestinians are OFFERING to recognize those lines as the NEW border of Israel. What's Bibi's counter-offer, harzion? h: "there was no border" *cough* *cough* Partition Line *cough* Still the only LEGAL border between the "Jewish state" and the "Arab state", even after all these long, long years. Keep that in mind, and the Palestinian's offer of the 1967 line takes on an altogether different hue being - as it is - exceptionally generous to Israel.

... but the pity is that you only hark to what suits you, and overlook the true gist of his judgement... that Israel itself perpetrated by far the greater misdeanor during Caste Lead...

h: "we did end the occupation in gaza and the equation certainly changed. projectiles were sent over the border into israel in vast quantities." Gosh! Only.... 1) That reply is a non-sequitur, and 2) That reply is inaccurate. Because "disengagement" did not end Israel's role as the occupying power, any more than putting all the prison guards into the watchtowers turns a "prison" into a "hotel". But, by all means, keep smearing your lipstick on that pig; just don't fool yourself that you've made it kosher.....

You cannot sidestep your own culpability for war crimes by pointing to the other side and saying, "Well what about them?" Yes, Hamas has committed war crimes under the pretext of self-defense. This is well documented in the Goldstone report. However, that does not excuse Israel from committing its own atrocities against Palestinians. Not only is this response of shifting the blame cowardly, but it is insulting to the victims of all war crimes. Both sides have a long way to go before a peace deal is made, but at least Hamas cooperated with the UN investigation after Cast Lead. Surely not every outside entity devoted to humanitarian law is "biased", as the Israeli government has often said.

France was "occupied" in WW2 by the Nazis because there was a government there before. There is no "occupation" in the West Bank because the territory is 100% Israeli under international law. The Green Line is simply where the fighting stopped in 1948 before Israel annexed it in 1967 in a defensive war. Look up the facts before you try to distort what is legal and not legal. Furthermore, there is no "oppression" in the West Bank. Palestinians self-govern in built-up cities with real, living economies. The West Bank is not a series of refugee camps as CNN would have you believe. Israel runs security checkpoints to find terrorists just like police operate road blocks in the US when on a manhunt for a murderer, but I don't hear New York City citizens crying "oppression" because the police doing its job to keep people safe makes them get home a little later.

Takes the graound right from under Northridge,s theory on illegal settlers. Google it and enjoy. By the way ---there are some 82000 residents in these two settlements. ""We should be left out of this construction freeze," Rubinstein said, adding that former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin encouraged the establishment of Beitar Illit, as did subsequent Israeli governments on the Right and Left. "They pushed us to come here. They gave us no other choice. We didn't necessarily want to settle in a place beyond the Green Line. But we had no other options inside the Green Line.

we did end the occupation in gaza and the equation certainly changed. projectiles were sent over the border into israel in vast quantities.

there was no border. in spite of that israel under barak and olemrt offered to leave over 95% of the area.to no avail.israel was rebuffed.

I am praying that this rapidly escalating situation will force all of us Israelis to face up to the hard choices we have been avoiding all these years. Do we continue to allow the growth of a violent and racist settlement movement which threatens to drag our country into hell? Or do we take a proper stand, imprison those who are advocating and causing violence, and rehouse others within the borders of the Israeli state, in accordance with International Law? Every day that we prevaricate on making this decision it will become worse for us.

really as religious people the way of thinking of the settlement aresso primitive and full of childness. The origen of their behavior as human been is always on the other side, is up to the others behavior. There is not ethic conduct at all, we are speaking of a sect, this is not judaism at all...In the name of God you can make what your polititian leaders want.

At last the true face of the settlers has been exposed. It is only because of the connivance and support of Government after Government who indulged the caravans, attracted the Jewish Fundamentalists from all over the world, who massively subsidised land that was not theirs to sell. so that by default facts on the ground would become a self evident truth. And now the bastard children of this colonisation are calling your bluff. Rabin should have closed down the first set of settlers in the 70's when this fateful enterprise started. Now they are endangering the entire state. The settlements are illegal. The fundamentalist settlers are beneath contempt.

cj wishes the palestinians in the west bank to be under jordanian law. cj jordanian law is the jurisdiction where america sends captured terrorists so the jordanian government can persuade them to talk. were you truly concerned about the palestinians you would wish them anything but jordanian law.

in sovreign territory" funny you should say that cj. the reason the arab towns and villages in israel do not want to be part of palestine is their panic at the prospect of being under palestinian law.

lord caradon wrote in resolution 242israel should "withdraw from occupied territories" leaving out the all important "the".so not all of the region was intended to be palestine. until that is decided israel will live where it pleases. israel through barak and olmert have offered to leave the area with withdrawls of over 95% suggested.they were both rebuffed.

Your occupier-settlers are threatening the State of Israel and the residents of the legitimate State of Israel. They plan to disrupt and inconvenience (maybe more) the legitimate residents of what legally is Israel. They are proven violent people as demonstrated in Nablus over the weekend. There is no reason to believe they would be gentler with non-Palestinians. They respect no Israeli government decisions or officials.

There is no Fort Sumter here, nor is this the wild west (that's in the Palestinian areas where they shoot each other and string up suspects from the highest utility pole). Funny how you genii always paint Israel as the total bad guy, and ignore all the human rights violations and war crimes on the Palestinian side. Looks like you all bought the Pal propaganda hook line and sinker about "the legitimate right to resist the occubation". Baloney. The way the Pals resist is called "war crimes" - that's Goldstone's conclusion, not mine. (and also the conclusion of Amnesty Intl and HRW, by the way).

The vocal minority can exert disproportionate pressure upon a government when the "silent majority" is apathetic. So the very worse thing a vocal minority can do is to inconvenience that apathetic majority, because a pissed-off majority eventually wakes from its stupor and demands that something be done about the ratbags in its midst. At that point it's All Over Red Rover.

... in the prison, where will we put these criminal brothers of ours...?

... all the more so since they ferociously attack only the weaker-than-they, innocent Pal neighbors who tremble before disenfrishment on a daily basis... ... let all the world see and hear...

T: "Jews are allowed to live in each part of Eretz Israel" But ISRAELIS are not allowed to transfer into Israeli-occupied territory, Trumpeldor. So if these Jews (Israelis all, remember) want to "settle" this land then they must wait UNTIL this territory is no longer under Israeli occupation. Then (and only then) can they press their legal claim that under Int'l Law they must be allowed to "settle" this land. They will, of course, have to press that case before the Palestinian courts....... I'll be wishing them the very best of luck but, so sorry, I don't think I'll be putting much money on them to win....

a vigilante 'wild west'? If it's the later, why should we in th US continue to support Isreal and its lawlessness?

GWN: "Jews are allowed to live in the West Bank under International Law." And under Int'l Law the citizens of the occupying power are prohibited from transferring into occupied territory. So UNTIL this occupation is at an end then these Jews (Israelis all, remember) can not settle the West Bank, and if you and don't like that then you should be pushing for an END TO THE OCCUPATION, and not for CONTINUED ILLEGAL COLONIZATION. GWN: "The Israeli government`s actions to stop building homes are illegal." Nooooooooo, untrue. It is the occupying power. It controls the issuing of building permits. Int'l Law PROHIBITS it from issuing any building permit if that is meant to put a roof over the head of one of its own citizens. End the occupation, and the equation changes. Keep the occupation, and the equation remains unchanged i.e. ISRAELIS can not "settle", regardless of their ethnicity.

The government sends in goons to forcefully ruin the lives of a group of people who want nothing more than to build their communities, and then say the setlers are disrupting Israelis' lives. How about when these thugs called Yasamniks come with their nightstics and beat people on the head, and then say the settlers are a violent group of people when they react. It's time the settlers did something, Till now they have been like sheep being taken to slaughter, and no slander of these people will alter their true character.

Maybe it's not so serious. But it looks like Israel is headed towards a Ft Sumter. Stay safe.

and it begins, years and years have passed since the first warning signs, and you choose to ignore it, now you will begin to witness the consequences that you could have easily avoided.

These claims come not only from the THORAH but also from 1923 San Remo internationalConference Chapters which are still legally valid and binding !

"right-wing activists have also been circulating text messages with the addresses of senior officials in the state prosecutor's office, police and civil administration." this is an implied threat of violent retaliation against officials(and their families), involved with enforcing this so-called "freeze".

while israel displays for all to see the disparity of justice and inequity of palestinians shot for protesting as settlers act with impunity... if israel doesn't start coming down hard on the settlers soon, it's going to lose its credibility in the eyes of the world...and even its own people. and the only way bibi can survive the can of maggots he's opened, is to lay the law down decisively. the reason these settlers defy the government, refuse to comply with its edicts, and carry out their veangence against palestinians, is because they've learned that they CAN! they need to be taught otherwise...or their actions are only going to get more extreme.

Settlers will score an own goal by attempting to disrupt the life of Israelis within Green Line. Maybe this is what is needed to wake up the Israelis that Gideon levy was talking about in his yeterday's article?

"The actions of the Israeli government are illegal" Yes entirely . Israel has no legal right to impliment Israeli law in non Sovereign territory. " Jews are allowed to live in the West Bank under International Law." Israeli's aren't. "The Israeli government`s actions to stop building homes are illegal" It's required by International law. "Every soldier should disobey any illegal orders" Indeed.

Attacking innocent Arabs shows the utter inhumanity of so many settlers. It is high time to get a Jewish De Gaulle to save Israel from itself.

Imagine smearing police with slimy mayonnaise. Or mayo mixed with oil to just the right consistency. It's like trying to catch a greased pig. No can do. This is surely the next step in the settler treachery. How can the authorities fight terror, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran when the evil of MAYONNAISE beckons!? No doubt these settlers are the scourge of mankind and must be rounded UP! Put a stop to all right wing opponents of Bibi! Stop the settlers! UPROOT them! Round them up! Preempt the mayo CONSPIRACY!

This should get interesting to see how how much hypocrisy the public of Israel will put up with. Palestinians throw rocks and are shot at with rifles rounds and tank shells. But the precious and armed( with rifles) settles set fire to vehicles, block roads and now threaten to destroy Israeli government buildings and the police just tuck tail and run LOL.The police are only brave when shooting at rock throwing Palestinian children. What a screwed up bunch of people run that place. Even the police in North Ireland had to eventually deal with the protestants after they pushed things to far.

For 30 years successive Israeli governments have overtly and covertly encouraged and supported the settlement of the West bank. While world governments have protested strongly or weakly, Israel has for reasons of its own politics has promoted the idea that the settlement issue was one for negotiation all the while supporting their growth. Now the chickens have come home to roost, so to speak. Now an American President and the rest of the world has made clear that the status quo is unacceptable in terms of regional stability. The settlements have to be dealt with. The issue can no longer be ignored. The Palestinians are not going to decamp and move out. Israeli citizens have been let down by their leaders for years. Keeping the W. bank was never in the cards,facts on the ground not with standing. T The pain that will have to be endured for peace, will be less than the pain from perpetual conflict. Only a true statesman will be able to bring Israel out of the darkness of its past.

It is disappointing to see the Jews reacting in such violent ways. They show themselves as no better than those they oppose. There is no peace-maker, there is no one who seeks justice and peace. There is no one who seeks GOD.

Im sure they will be served 3 kosher meals aday!

As soon as they come to the "Green Line" Junctions, let the Police deal with them as they would Palestinian protesters. This will show them that they do not have the support of the people, whom they so glibly purport to represent. Then, the remaining rational ones will re-evaluate their course. The extremists, who hate their people and hate humanity, will stand alone and will be defeated.

The actions of the Israeli government are illegal. Jews are allowed to live in the West Bank under International Law. The Israeli government's actions to stop building homes are illegal. Every soldier should disobey any illegal orders.