World powers urge Iran to accept standing nuclear offer

please start reporting in the west about the strugle of the iranis to liberate themselves from a junta that took control of their country policies I.E REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS ,AJMADINAJAD AND HAMENAY.

How will there ever be peace in this region if one side or the other continues in its neverending style of murder and hayhem to each other. Surely there must be some in the Middle East that want only peace and long life to all. After all the Jews and Arabs had probably one of the greatest civilizations in Spain that the world had ever saw and not to this day has anyone bettered it. If Israelis left the Golan Heights it would shock the Syrians into doing something perhaps in a peaceful way that would counter it. Without Syria there is no peace in this region. Shalom or Salaam Aleicom

I repeat: if you want incendiary language, look at the Jerusalem Post website, where posts often speak of 'nuking israel', 'killing all the arabs with poison gas' 'bombing Lebanon back to the stone age'. But, these are just words. You cannot pass judgment on someone for what they say, what they think, what they feel, only what is done in practice. Israel repeatedly attacks every country surrounding it, except Egypt and Jordan. Now they are threatening war against Iran and Syria which will likely ignite a world war. Selective Memri TV has been exposed repeatedly. Deal with it.

Its quite telling that you ignored all my other points, and focused on the opinion of one man in Britain. You clearly are trying to divert opinion, in true radical-Zionist fashion, from the truth, despite your name. In fact, moderate thought IS the norm in Islamic countries. That is, until Israel starts bombing, kidnapping, practicing collective punishment etc etc etc. Then tolerance fades. Memri TV is a propaganda operation whose sole purpose is to further Israeli territorial ambitions. I can and will, if necessary, back up every word I have written. Let's see if you can. As for the tax thing. Who cares? America and Canada have been hijacked by hard-core Zionist fanatics. America is in the process of throwing off this burden. Canada will be a little slower, but it will ripple up here as well, sooner or later.

Advisor to Rabin? You mean the former Prime Minister that offered the world to the Pals? Isn't the Guardian itself known as a propogandist publication? Actually, there are clips of 'moderate' and 'reforming' muslim dialogue; although, it has to be said, that moderate thought is definitely the exception and not the rule in Muslim countries. Survey's you say? You mean the survey that stated that Israel is seen as the largest world threat by the public according to a BBC survey? What's funny is that most uneducated people spread this nonsense as fact! I'm sure you wouldn't be one of those people though. Many Muslim countries do have "annihilate the Jews" language, including Pal TV. By the way, did you know that Memri is such an acceptable research organization that donations to the project are tax-deductable in Canada and the US? It's clearly evident who the real "liar" is.

Advisor to Rabin? You mean the former Prime Minister that offered the world to the Pals? Isn't the Guardian itself known as a propogandist publication? Actually, there are clips of 'moderate' and 'reforming' muslim dialogue; although, it has to be said, that moderate thought is definitely the exception and not the rule in Muslim countries. Survey's you say? You mean the survey that stated that Israel is seen as the largest world threat by the public according to a BBC survey? What's funny is that most uneducated people spread this nonsense as fact! I'm sure you wouldn't be one of those people though. Many Muslim countries do have "annihilate the Jews" language, including Pal TV. By the way, did you know that Memri is such an acceptable research organization that donations to the project are tax-deductable in Canada and the US? It's clearly evident who the real "liar" is, William M Ennis (aka Wilhab Moustafa Ennuahabib). Peace.

First, let's start with the founder of MEMRI TV, shall we? They are: Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in Israeli Military Intelligence, advisor to Shamir and Rabin on countering Palestinian resistance. This alone should make anyone suspicious. But there's more. The Chairman of the Guardian newspaper in Britain rightly calls it a propaganda operation. Claims of selective choosing of the most militant Islamic media clips is accurate, and proves its bias. Consider if someone did a survey of hateful calls to genocide by Israelis found, say, on the Jerusalem Post website. (look for yourself at their posts). Third, there have been proven deliberate mistranslations including one famous one: IN 2007 a cnn team proved that a translation purported to say, on a Palestinian children's tv program, "we will annihilate the Jews" when in fact the words were "the Jews are killing us". So. Why don't you do all reasonable people a favour, and change your psuedonym to "The Liar". Adieu.

Actually, William, Memri TV is a fact finding project that is both objective and true. It is simply a medium to ensure the public knows what's really going on in the heads of many of not only Israel's, but the Jewish people's enemies. There are no comments made preceding or following any of the videos or other artifacts gathered, to manipulate the public's perception. What exactly are you saying is fabricated? Are the people in the videos not real? Are the events portrayed by Memri actually not occurring? Is it mistranslated at all? Knowing different languages, I haven't found one video that is incorrectly translated; in fact, the translations are unbelievably accurate. So again, what parts of Memri are you debating to be fabricated or manipulative? I'm interested to know.

I used to live once in Missouri, the "Show Me" state. Governments lie, all of them. My father, a former US Army officer, set up the nuclear defense plan for the California prison system. And he chuckled when I was being taught "Duck n Cover." And when governments aren't lying, they are sometimes mistaken. Show me some real evidence. Cheney and Bush lied and nearly 5000 American kids died in Iraq. There might be more credibility if that hadn't happened. But Cheney continues to lie and he's a politician. Obama's a politician, too. Johnson lied about the Tonkin Gulf. Nixon lied about Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos. Netanyahu is a politician and so is Livni and Barak and Diskin. All politicians lie, except while stealing.

Sami... No one is gonna attack Iran... because no attack is necessary. Iran will implode from within, simply because they are a paper tiger... all talk - no action, just like you. The Gulf states have their own strategic reasons to oppose Tehran's quest for dominance. They see Iran as an existential threat... period. Now, who is gonna depose Mubarak... you and the doughnut Muslim Brotherhood clan, do you actually realize how silly you sound. Man... get a grip on yourself. It is amazing... how uninformed and intellectually bankrupt most Arabic posters are on this thread. I can only hope that isn't a reflection of the population in general.

your post is much appreciated as always. best regards and shalom to your entire family, cipora

Putting a bunch of hungry people from different countries together, in a room, is risky. Except when they are arms dealers. "Russian arms dealers" are as comfortable in Moscow as in Washington or Tel Aviv or Delhi or Beirut. They know the rules, and they know the price for breaking them (i.e., they get publicity aka 'govt attention' and lose their international lifestyle). Obviously there are other 'transnational' interests besides weapons merchants, and collectively they decide Monday what politicians are going to do Tuesday. The smart reptiles work for government. But the smarter ones (good and bad) don't. The circular problem that you refer to, of financial interests (e.g. arms dealers) causing misery in poor countries, by using politicians, is endless.

Pathetic. Deadlines have come and gone, for November, make that December, make that 2010, make that whenever. The Europeans and the United States might as well personally deliver nuclear weapons to Tehran and be done with it.

The religious Islamic terrorists who run Saudi Arabia, the Communists in China who egg them on,and the Iranians who monger war must be dead certain that if any WMD attack on the US or Israel is attempted that there will be a swift, sure and mightier response on the part of the United States. No US Administration could politically survive non-action or Laodicean responses.

"No more American boys dying for Israel" - usa I don't know of any American boys who 'died for Israel' other than those who volunteered to serve in the IDF. There is no war that America is fighting for Israel. Nor has there ever been. Iraq and Afghanistan were entirely motivated by neocon dreams of world domination. And don't give me any crap about the USS Liberty. I have read the intercepts. That was a goat-rope.

It is bad practice Eli to start wars you can't finish. This is a proclivity of the extreme right. The classic examples were during WW II when Germany, unable to defeat Britain, took on Russia and the USA. Or Japan, unable to beat China took on America and Britain. Israel cannot bring a conclusion to a war with Iran. And unable to bring a conclusion, it would simply pay the price without any gain.

Bill Clinton, with his extensive ties to Saudi Arabia, and his desperate yearning to lose the ball and chain, may have made a deal to sell Hillary to Abdul (or whatever his name is). Those interns drive US foreign policy.

The buffoon Biden can't find his ass in the dark. Sending him is a message in of itself regarding the unreliability of the Obama administration and its new strategy to apply sanctions to the Revolutionary guard. This strategy will work as well as applying sanctions. As anyone can from a new business and use it to move vast amounts of capital to and from Iran. This action is the same as doint nothing.

About time that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton finally woke up and smelled the coffee.

Avi... I am sorry to disagree... but there's a world of difference between Fatah and Hamas. Fayad and to some degree Abbas have improved the situation on the ground in the last 3 years. The security predicament and the West Bank economy are showing signs of life. Yes... corruption is still a hold over, but that's their own internal matter. It would really be helpful, if Israelis recognize that and work toward a reconciliation with the Palestinians. I realize there's a lot of violent history to forgive... and that is a difficult thing to do. Certainly, trust is the last obstacle to overcome. But as you probably understand, peace takes a lot of work from both sides... and nothing comes easy. Cheers... Avi.

Clinton's legacy will may very well be summed up by the words Bibi's "unprecedented" concession. Let's hope Obama's legacy doesn't read the "unprecedented" concession of putting a dimwit in that most important of portfolios simply to help unite his Party.

A: "such a sweet boy... but not ours..." Definitely not, Avi. I regard zionism in the way that I used to regard the apartheid regime in South Africa. Mind you, the Afrikaaners never displayed the salivating, warmongering, bloodlust that I'm seeing in these talkback threads. Go ahead, Avi; strap yourself into an F-16 and attack a nation that has twice your GNP. Go ahead, but don't come crying to me if you find your precious little regime slowly being ground into the dirt by A Bigger Bully. After all, you'd have started that fight, not them.

It is this: What is the point of International Law? It certainly isn't there just to annoy you. It definitely isn't there to keep the lawyers employed. It exists for this simple reason: when countries formulate and adhere to international laws then that brings STABILITY to the world. You prefer to simply ignore int'l law because "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do". Fine. But what always makes me laugh is that people like you NEVER consider the consequences of such behaviour, which is this: TRASHING int'l law creates chaos and disorder. You know, the sort of chaos and disorder that lead to a world war that damn nearly SAW THE EUROPEAN JEWS WIPED OUT. Don't be so hasty to jump into the bear pit, Ibn, coz people can get dismembered in a bear pit. How quickly zionists forget, heh?

Only it doesn't appear to be the Iranians. MV: "do you suppose most of the West is wrong about the goals of Iran`s nuclear programme" The NIE has consistently said that the Iranians have made **no** decision to build nukes, Morris. They want to position themselves so that they *can* make that decision, but that is not at all the same as saying that they *have* made that decision. MV: "Ahmadinejad and Khamenei haven`t said they`ll `probably` destroy Israel. " They have said no such thing. They have said that Israel is doomed. Mind you, Ronnie Reagan said that the USSR was doomed, and NOBODY suggested that signalled an intent to nuke the Kremlin. MV: " 'Probably' is going to be a good enough basis for Iran`s nukes to be attacked." What nukes, Morris? Nobody - but NOBODY - is suggesting that Iran has nukes. Not even the Israelis are making that claim.

We can see diplomacy failing again like it always has - read history. What conflic has diplomacy stopped? None to my recolection. And in the future, our descendants will be bombarded with movies about this, just like I was bombarded when I was growing up on how politicians travelled and spent at tax payers expenses and in the end - nothing, just more money for movie makers and beautiful speaches. Call me what you like, but, Am I wrong?. There have been profets telling it like it is and not one has listened. I am not one of those profets, just an amateur who likes history.

Where have all the postings gone? Long time passing Where have all the postings gone? Long time ago Where have all the postings gone? Slowman ate them every one When will he ever quit? When will he ever quit? Where have all the censors gone? Long time passing Where have all the censors gone? Long time ago Where have all the censors gone? Gone to party every one When will they ever work? When will they ever work?

Sami... No one is gonna attack Iran... because no attack is necessary. Iran will implode from within, simply because they are a paper tiger... all talk - no action, just like you. The Gulf states have their own strategic reasons to oppose Tehran's quest for dominance. They see Iran as existential threat... period. Now, who is gonna depose Mubarak... you and the Muslim Brotherhood, do you actually realize how silly you sound. Man... get a grip on yourself. It is amazing... how uninformed and intellectually bankrupt you and most Arabic posters are on this thread. I can only hope that isn't a reflection of the population in general.

Obama is the new Chambelain and Hillery is his mouthpiece. Obama ran on a platform that included opening a dialogue with Iran. Up to now the Iranians have made him look like the fool he really is.

The US and Western powers wants us in the Arab and islamic world to believe that our enemy is Iran. Every time there is am attempt to try to break away from enslavement, the West is there to liquidate it. that is normal because the West wants us to remain slaves and retarded. The real bombs and dangers is the existence of this aggressive entity which refuses to live in peace or admit the Palestininas right to survive. No one talks about the illegal Israeli bombs and the fact that Israel did not sign the NPT while Iran is a full cooperating member.

Although not related to this tag, the American forces just killed 12 civilians [including four children] with and errant missle strike. Where is your outrage? Or is the IDF the only army prohibited from harming civilians being used as human shields?

Until now, Americans have never been faced with both the prospect of a nuclear attack from a terrorist state (IRAN) while concurrently having to rely on a U.S. President pathetically weak. Obama is more a threat to our national security than Iran. The President's demonstrated weakness has invited terrorists and foreign Governments to challenge U.S. global interests, even attack America. If there is another terrorist attack on U.S. soil that causes significant damage, Americans will be extremely angry with Obama and his administration. While Obama threatens UN sanctions that have never worked against Iran, the dictatorship continues to provide weapons to Terrorists and likely will furnish small nukes to Terrorists in America and Israel once they develop them. Iran will then have the power to terrorize Governments and their Citizens with the indefinite prospect of or more small-nuke attacks, while denying accountability. Should a small nuke be detonated in the U.S., fearful Americans .

Although not related to this tag, The American Army just killed 12 civilians including at least four children with an errant missle strike. Where is you outrage? Or is the IDF the only army not permitted to kill civilians when they are put in harms way by the enemy?

""It is all merely a claim for Israeli exceptionalism. Sorry, Daniel, but Israel simply ain`t that exceptional....."" For once we agree on something but depends from what point of view Johnboy. Who is creating this exeptionalism? Why is the occupation of Palestinian terrirtories more important than the occupation of Northern Cyprus,Kurdistan and Armenian territories by Turkey,Tibet and Uyghur territories by China for instance? Why doesn't the UN recognize the legitimate nationhood rights of the Kurds,Chechnyans and Tibetans like they recognize those of the Palestinians? Which other country is threatened with total anihilation except for Israel?

It was Israel that pushed on America to launch a war against the only potential rival to Israel. It didn't matter that the country was effectively cut in three, devastated by decade of sanctions which only hurt its civillians. It was simulataneously pushed into war by traitors in America like Richard Perle, Wolfowitz and the others in this rabid Zionist clique. Obama will not be pushed into war, despite Clinton's words.

tone down hillary

If you think Iran is alone in this conflict, please take a second and open your eyes. China and Russia will veto any UN resolutions. They want to see America's illegal occupation ended. Afghanistan and Iraq were thefts of a country's sovereignty, including resources. This is expressly forbidden by the UN charter. America wants a licence to steal. This is not acceptable, and that's it. Iran has done nothing outside of its rights. There are IAEA inspectors everywhere. Israel is hyping the threat when there is more of a threat next door in Pakistan. One Iranian nuke, if and when it happens, will make zero difference.

They've got heart. They don't beg or grovel. No one pulls their strings nor restrains their freedom of action. You don't see their leaders shuttling off to Russia and China beseeching them for help in their negotiations with the West; nor pleading with them for military support; even as the fateful attack looms off in the distance. Subjected to unrelenting threats for the past 6 years they suddenly announce that they're boosting enrichment to 20%; all after the discovery of a 'secret' facility they built inside a friggin' mountain, no less. Uh-uh, these aren't the Arabs that Israel (used to) regularly trounce. Israel now faces very clever, industrialized people who are acting as cool as cucumbers. Steady and resolute. Almost HOPING for an attack; as though the form(s) of retaliation were already planned and put into place some time ago, awaiting the war-bluster of Israel's present PM. Things could go VERY wrong for Israel in the next 90 to 120 days. It needs to have a care.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt At the end of last year Obama and Clinton had assembled a coalition in the P%+! and Gulf to sanction Iran if it didn't start cooperating more fully with the IAEA. The coalition came with strings. The US cannot 'lead' in the Gulf while if follows Israel for example. The Gulf support weakened perceptibly with the total collapse of any peace effort. The bombast is probably more motivated by the decline in Obama's credibility now that it is clear his diffidence has lead to not only his failure to bring about a peace deal, or even serious negotiations; but also to his failure as a president to lead his party or achieve any stated goal. Everyone in the region is unhappy with Iran, but there are few if any willing to hurt themselves by sanctioning Iran given the failure of Obama. The administration has devolved to ranting and raving in an attempt to seem strong when it has achieved nothing but failure.

Memri TV is a project funded by the Israeli Government's intelligence services. This is blatant propaganda meant only to deceive, often in a grotesque way, uncritical members of a targeted population base: otherwise known as crass manipulation. I mention this only because of Mr Leopold's post. It is Iran, in practice that has done nothing since their Islamic revolution except be victimized by Americans and Israelis? Palestinians are the ones that suffer, and you expect no support for them from their own people? Are you THAT delusional? Someone do a comparison of Sunni and Shiite governments and see what it is that makes Shiites increasing in popularity throughout the region.

on its own...time to grow children and quit lying to yourselves and the world

I believe the program you are thinking of was called the "Waltons" Both programs were nice shows.

So far, not one sanction has been approved. Stupid politicians decide on sanctions which do nothing to stop Iran's drive for nuclear weapon capability. Politicians who use sanctions are afraid of military action and are not the right people for the job. Iran needs to be wiped out before they attempt to wipe out Israel and attack America's other allies.

Hillary Clinton seems to be the most irrelevant US Secretary of State in recent memory. She has no guiding geopolitical concepts and ideas, and consequently contributes nothing of value to US foreign policy. In troubled areas, Pres. Obama has his special envoys, and Hillary is out of the game. The only recent Secretary of State so irrelevant seems to have been Nixon's William Rogers (some 30 years ago), and he was chosen because Nixon wanted to run the affairs of the world himself. The present speech is an example of some empty declaration of no useful consequence. The Iran problem today is their nuclear program, and the main promoter seems to be Ahmadinejad, with the enthusiastic support of the Supreme Leader. Nothing to do with the Revolutionary Guard's influence. What? Ahmadinejad doesn't want the program but can't stand up to the "military dictatorship"? Poor man. Perhaps the world should pity him instead of denouncing him...

what you have to do to save your own. Inside and outside, Iran's days are numbered.

The hypocrisy of the USA knows no bounds. Clinton says " We see that the government of Iran, ... is being supplanted and that Iran is moving toward a military dictatorship. That is our view." 1) The USA and Britain engineered the coup in 1953 that threw out the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Mossadegh and installing the totalitarian Shah and CIA trained brutal secret police force SAVAK. The Shah and SAVAK were as bad as Hussein and his thugs and worse than Iran today 2) In 1976, USA AGREED to provide Shah and Iran with PLUTONIUM processing nuclear power plants for the peaceful purpose of generating electricity. The USA was 100% agreeing with the notion that thouh Iran had a lot of oil it was better to save oil for other purposes than electricity

the Wilsonian Government you wished for.

Islamic fundie crazies. And the head crazy is the Pres of Iran.

when has the US military fought or died for Israel? From the maps I have seen, we are isolating Iran, right on their borders.

Ria Novosti 15.2.10. "Russia, Saudi Arabia in talks on major arms deal." Russian and foreign media earlier reported that Russia and Saudi Arabia are drafting an arms contract to a tune of $4-6 billion. http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100215/157892206.html Pravda 9.2.10 "Russian Arms Sales Overtake U.S. in Latin America." Latin America is no longer Washington's playground. In fact, it is no body's playground. Sensible and socially progressive governments have swept the U.S.- backed fascist murdering oligarchs out of the continent, where Moscow has always been respected by the people as a friend an ally. http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/09-02-2010/112127-russian_arms_sales-0

What American boys are dying for Israel,idiot?? The American boys dying are a result of US policy in Iraq/Afghanistan,which has nothingto do with Israel.. Read a newspaper sometime....

Israel will never rely on anyone, including the US, which had proven time and again that they are not a reliable ally. With the exception of WW!!, the US abandoned every war and ally and run with its tail between its legs. This is not a criticism of the US at all...the US will always protect its own interests and how they perceive their interests to be. Israel will do the same and every country would do the same. Any other speculations on how the US or other countries will behave and act is nonsense.

Got it Hillary? Americans aren't smart, but we're not as stupid about the Middle East as we were ten years ago. Iraq wasn't a threat to us and neither is Iran.

""But it appears clear that Obama will do what his massa Netanyahu wants him to do." - Mark Lincoln" - Yonatan Is Obama Jewish? I don't think so. Has he been totally subservient to Netanyahu from the first time they met? Yes. "Lincoln is hinting here that the Jews rule the world" - Yonatan Cut the crap Yonatan. I don't believe that. I just understand that Obama is a nice guy, speaks well, is intelligent and well intentioned. But he has also been totally subservient to Netanyahu. He even lets Netanyahu insult him and his administration without reproach. "How can Israel, with 0.1% of the world population and land mass control the US presidencey, and without oil yet?" - Yonatan I never suggested it did Yonatan. All I said was that Obama plays Step 'n Fetchit for Netanyahu.

The most unqualified and incompetent Secretary of State since James G. Blain is talking herself and her nation into a corner. Each day has an ever more bombastic statement which will leave her no course but to back war to save face.

such a sweet boy... but not ours...

warning Israel and others not to repond militarily. They are also very actively engaged in wishful thinking. And the distinction she makes between the President of Iran and the revolutionary guards as the power holder is supremely rediculous. It reminds me of the folks who say Fatah are the good guys and Hamas are the bad guys when clearly (to me) they both are the bad guys with one better organized than the other and funded abroad.

If he wouldn't have invaded Iraq, Iran would be much weaker in the region, and America would have the stomach for the intervention that REALLY IS NEEDED: stopping Iran from acquiring nukes and if possible, knocking down its regime.

Sami, your lack of freedom has nothing to do with Israel or Jews or Americans or Martians. It is easy to blame others for your problems, this is your crutch to hold on.

repeating Debka.com bs about Iraq's WMD's being shifted to Syria.Idiot.As for Iran.See NIE 2007. Ignore the politicians, they are as full of it as you.

I would see myself as well as my country free when we get rid from Arab-haters like you. You simply do not fit in our region and ultimately, you will again disappear. It is not your land where you live, it is Palestinian land. Get it at least now. There is no one here in Egypt that likes you. The peace you talk about was only written on a piece of paper, not in Egyptian people's heart.

is a piece of excrement.how is it that i rarely see anyone advocate bombing israel on this site,but every other israeli says bomb iran?who are the haters?all the other sites too.its always the jews who want to kill,not the muslims.imagine the litigation if allies had bombed camps.damned if we do,damned if we don't.hey israel,you want some peace?when your neighbors can sleep peacefully in their beds at night you will too.

There is a Chinese saying: deal with a thing while it is still nothing. Alas, the Jews have much to learn from Chinese wisdom.

Israel is the best ally the USA can have.. We are USA are fighting the same bastards that Israel is... in Iraq and Afhgan you Israeli bashers idiots! GO Israel bomb the hek out of Iran!

I just want to know Mullen's expresion "US is responsible for Israel's security". Does he mean securing Israel with the 1948 borders or Israel with all the settlements and illigally ocupied lands.

Netanyahu is doing the right thing in trying to convince everybody around the world that Iranian nukes are a threat to world peace. And I doubt that other than Israel's enemies anybody has an argument against it. The problem with Netanyahu is that he also drops plenty of hints that Israel will attack Iran if their nuclear activity does not cease. The plain fact is that Israel cannot stop Iran by itself and its military means. It may be able to destroy a facility, but this will be quickly replaced, and Iranian efforts will only redouble. In the meantime, Israel will buy itself a dangerous enemy who will come up with some retaliation. The "cure" will be worse than the disease. Better promote sanctions and NATO action. The problem with Likud people is that they are unable to see the consequences of their actions. And talking a crazy talk might get Netanyahu to act crazily.

Your comments about the USA not deleivering to the security of Israel is a statement of "hogwash." Remeber the 1973 airlift that saved the country of Israel. Israel is incapable of successfully attacking Iran. It doesn't thave the air force and range and it doesn't have the "bunker busting bombs." Iran has a long way to go before it has a bomb; and even l;onger before it can fit it on a missle. Israel is worried over nothing. Iran's bomb is not immediate.

Well said. The two neocons are the same guys who pushed Bush to attack Iraq preemptively and now they are trying to push the United State to commit this same war crimes just to keep Israel happy and comfortable. Enough listening to these public enemies.

There was no deliberate targeting of civilians. In fact, the new policy is to do everything imaginable not to kill civilians. Therefore, very few civilians have been killed and injured. Let's compare that to Gaza where Israel ordered it's soldiers to kill anything and everything they encountered. I think you get the point, right?

you say netanyahu wants a war...(which only shows how far removed you are from what israelis want)...the truth is lewiston, YOU want a war and others like you who are willing to let iran go nuclear, it's YOU who want a war...the very fact that you, lincoln, durson, linwaithe,labrhas all advocate iran being allowed nukes is the surest way forward towards war. You really have no shame eh? coming here to a jewish site to advocate for the death of israel..because, thinly veiled, that IS what you are doing here...let's be honest. I just love how people here, in this crappy talkback forum seem to think they know more than the most well researched experts from the US,EU,ISRAEL,UK, etc...what a joke you people are...you still think iran doesn't want nukes? hahahahaha.....your position is RIDICULOUS. and dont start now with iraq, because iraq HAD wmd's. Can you say chemical weapons in halbaja? Can you say nuclear and biological weapons moved to syria??? ....you're just jealous jew haters.

Which is the country that has defied over 65 UN Resolutions. Sanctions Now.

Since when has Israel had any respect for International Law - settlements in occupied territory are a violation of article 49 of the fourth Geneva Convention. Israel apparently has its own interpretation of International Law.

How'd that pan arab nationalism under nasser work out for ya? lol... the ONLY reason you are free today, is because sadat had the COURAGE to recognize israel and make peace. if things were left to people like you, egypt would still be working with the old nazi german industrialists in the rocket business. when will you people learn...and the answer is; never.

AIPAC+zionist congressmen are forcing Obama to go to a new war for israel as usual.

Israelis need a taste of their own medicine to come out of their moral slumber Israel started out as a pretty unpleasant terrorist state, with the Stern Gang and Begin bombing British Soldiers and treating Palestinians appealingly.

Why do I say this? Here's what he writes: "But it appears clear that Obama will do what his massa Netanyahu wants him to do." - Mark Lincoln Lincoln is hinting here that the Jews rule the world - a familiar anti-Jewish claim. How can Israel, with 0.1% of the world population and land mass control the US presidencey, and without oil yet?

Whatever the USA and its proxis in the Middle East may undertake, it will inflame the whole moslem world as nothing before. Those Arab countries you mentioned are the ones to go down by their own people As a consequence. Especially Egypt and Saudi Arabia are at stake.It will be the most foolish administration in the USA, should your country attack Iran.These allegations, same as before with Saddam Hussein, are only assumptions, nothing more.The USA is already engaged in a heavy war, in Afghanistan. How dare you go to war, just to appease your friends in Israel! Iran, joined by neigbouring countries will fight back for years and it will be a much larger Vietnam, should the USA and Israel really attack.

JB - do you suppose most of the West is wrong about the goals of Iran's nuclear programme, and that little ol' Johnboy of some flyblown, predominately Arab suburb of Sydney, Australia, is right? Ahmadinejad and Khamenei haven't said they'll 'probably' destroy Israel. They've left *no* doubt about it. 'Probably' is going to be a good enough basis for Iran's nukes to be attacked. As in '100% probability'. Stick *that* where the sun doesn't shine. Kind regards. MV

It is very funny for her to talk about dictatorships while touring the arab world that oppresses its own people via its own dictatorships. I mean, Saudi Arabia is NAMED after the ruling family - the US once again shows how it deals with the world - it is disgusting really, and they are not fooling anyone. PEACE

you say netanyahu wants a war...(which only shows how far removed you are from what israelis want)...the truth is lewiston, YOU want a war and others like you who are willing to let iran go nuclear, it's YOU who want a war...the very fact that you, lincoln, durson, linwaithe,labrhas all advocate for iran being allowed nukes is the surest way forward towards war. You really have no shame eh? coming here to a jewish site to advocate for the death of israel..because, thinly veiled, that IS what you are doing here...let's be honest. I just love how people here, in this crappy talkback forum seem to think they know more than the most well researched experts from the US,EU,ISRAEL,UK, etc...what a joke you people are...you still think iran doesn't want nukes? hahahahaha.....your position is RIDICULOUS. and dont start now with iraq, because iraq HAD wmd's. can you say chemical weapons in halbaja? can you say nuclear and biological weapons moved to syria??? ....your just jealous jew haters.

The problem with military dictatorships is that eventually that have to cede to some form of capitalism to survive. The general population of Iran, particularly, the younger population has seen, experienced and tasted what a free Iran can be. Sanctions, strong deterence and the internal struggle may change Iran in the long run. For all the media blitz of uranium grades, internally, Iran is struggling and the government must keep the masses happy, or they will be out. What the west needs to do, is support Israel, put up a strong and united front, and continue to keep the Iranian puppets, Hamas and Hezbollah, in check. This means continued covert operations to prevent arms smuggling,etc., not a full blown war. Everyone knows this and it will continue to happen. The more moderate Arab states are just as fearful of Iran. The east Berlin wall fell without a single Nuke being fired. The same can happen in the ME.

Natanyahu was banging the war drums pre-Iraq invasion alone with the other neo-con zionists wolfowitz, perle and the Project for the New American Century. Again PNAC is buying editorial pages in the news and banging the drums of war for the sake of israel. You wont fool the Americans again.

The possible consequences of a strike may be too dire to fathom. But if it is seriously felt that the existence of your very State is on the line it must be done. After all it's not America facing the prospect of total annihilation.

No even a chance of Third world war. The most dramatic thing that may happen is Hizbalah launching missiles over Tel Aviv and Iran launching some kind of attack to American troops in the Persian Gulf. In both cases Israel and the United States will retaliate in such a way that Iran will not be able to afford it. No chance in the world that United State will lose its hegemony in the Middle east to the Iranians. America, Israel and the Golf countries are in the same boat. China and Russia will not move a finger for Iran.

America can't mind it's own business we must stick our nose in other countries' affairs and when they hate us for doing so we label them a dictatorship or a threat; we want to be the ONLY country that dictates to other countries. Iran would be foolish to submit to any of America's demands. It's funny America never labeled the criminal Shah of Iran a dictator because he did America's bidding at the expense of the Iranian people, and we know what that cost him.

So the US is turning into a military dictatorship? Just like Iran? Do you also believe that General Petraeus really calls the shots after he rigged that last election to get his man Obama in?

It is almost as if we are back at the year 2001, the same people (in the U.S. and to a lesser extent Europe) quite feverishly advocating for a new conflict/war, namely U.S Neocons, Israeli politicians, Christian extremists, and the arms-lobby around the world, which smells big business..... The only difference is, that the Iran of 2010 will be a much more formidable and dangerous opponent than Saddam Husseins Iraq was.... ....I'm afraid some of the war-cheerleaders of today might be in for a (very) "bloody nose" tomorrow.

I am so fortunate to laugh at those israeli paranoid thoughts of war mongering (hunking, punking and junking) but expression of helplessness due to inability to attack Iran. World body is no longer buying US & Israeli connivance as global citizens seen what hppened in case of Iraq (WMD). US & Israel is beggings others to support / fight their wars. OH! so sickness while half body have been engraved in to Iraqi and Afghan deserts. Insider Clinton is ferrying the drums of war as she has taken money from AIPAC but no one give importance. Oh so bad luck US-Israel, nobody buys!

CIPORA I LOVE YOU AND ALL WHAT YOU STAND FOR, PLUS ALL YOUR FAMILY, GOD BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY FROM YOUR FRIEND DANNY.

Time is running out and the rhetoric coming from the Obama administration does not solve the problem.....Iran understands one thing.....strength. and to speak without the faintest idea of following through with force is an empty message to Iran.....as Ezra Pound declared.....an hour's stour is worth a Year's peace.

The question of sanctions has always depended upon having Russia and China on board. Last December they were. Then the US decided that arms sales to Taiwan was more important than Chinese cooperation. Now Israel has decided to alienate Russia by arms sales to Georgia. Clearly Iran is a side-show to America and Israel. The important thing is arms sales.

Though it is more of a dictatorship of the financial and military. In the depths of a recession the likes of which have not been seen since the 30's which two recipients of the taxpayers largesse have been ring fenced from the fallout and indeed plied with additional $$$. Naturally, this has been done with the aid of democratic machinery. A supine legislature has joined hands with the imperial executive to facilitate these ends. More wars,more control for Wall St,[they want your social security contributions too-please... thank you!], more for the corporate kleptocrats,[force folks to take up exorbitant health insurance]less liberty[for security reasons of course]less choice-the business party has a Democratic head and a Republican head-which head do you prefer? But Iran is turning into a 'military dictatorship'. Well remember that when you spot that over half of the United States discretionary budget goes on 'defense' spending. That during this decade despite a reduction of one third in the size of the armed forces there has been a near $300 Billion increase in the defense budget at constant 2009 dollars. P.S. You need not contact your congressmen on these matters. Simply send your queries direct to Lockheed, Raytheon or Goldman Sachs and they will instruct your representative accordingly.

"obama is not president of israel. try to keep this in mind." - Cipora He doesn't even appear to be capable of being the President of the United States. America voted for change and got a thin 'bush lite.'

The American style of warfare and our national personality makes it impossible for us to practice counter-insurgency warfare. We believe in massive fire power and that means lots of collateral damage. We have been wiping out civilians at a much higher rate than Taliban in Afghanistan for 8 years. That is why the number of Taliban keeps growing. There is no place in counter-insurgency warfare for the Multiple Launch System or air strikes. We are failing because of the view of war - total war - which has dominated the USA since the Civil War.

No, about America's problem, our Avigdor Lieberman. When will she shut up and stop talking like Bush and Cheney?

If Iran is turning into a military dictatorship then that should earn it praise from the US, don't you think? Just look at all past and current military dictatorships in South/Central America, South East Asia, Africa, and Asia and you'll see American bases! Just like Eisenhower said about one dictator: "Yes, he's an S.O.B., but he's our S.O.B.!". At least Eisenhower spoke honestly; unlike this weasil called Clinton!

DL: "Preemption or not" It is not "preemption" if you attack someone to PREVENT them gaining a capability that you already possess. Think about it, Daniel: you are claiming a **right** to go to war because there is an arms race going on and you "fear" what the other side will do once they catch up with you. As a loophole for launching wars of aggression THAT excuse is big enough to drive a Merkava tank through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know: Israel is special, Israel is unique, Israel fears *this* and is threatened by *that* and can't afford *this* and can't wait for *that*. It is all merely a claim for Israeli exceptionalism. Sorry, Daniel, but Israel simply ain't that exceptional.....

So Russia is onside with the US against Iran, Mr. Mullen? What DOES the inside of your arse look like?

Your own president last week accused Iran of developing nuclear weapons. Do you think he's an idiot Mark? Or do you refuse to believe anything until you see it for yourself? Mark you need to move on. They ARE developing nukes. That has already been established. The question now is what to do about it?

there is a difference between a military dictatorship and the islamic republic of iran.

there is a difference between a military dictatorship and the islamic republic of iran.

Once Iran has nukes it can become a military dictatorship like Pakistan is. One with a civilian government that has no say over any strategic issue. One that can support terrorists with impunity. One that can blackmail governments like the US for billions of $ in so called aid. Nukes will forever entrench the IRGC as the political elite. Not just a problem for Israel but for the entire planet.

The clip below is quite revealing as far as the intentions of the Iranian regime are concerned http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/108/0/2342.htm Israel must deal with realities on the ground not with the fantazies and twisted logic of armchair commentators based thousands of miles away overseas. Iran has declared a war of anihilation on Israel so only a change of regime may prevent a military [or not so military] strike on Iran

Care to explain to us how that'd happen? I don't think Russia, China, India, or Pakistan would get militarily involved, dear.

we did investigate and we turned our report into the UN. The Hamas did not. But again... you americans are the modern holy roman empire... you live in a a glass house... by the way GREAT job on the water boarding. Go use another predator to kill more children. You do not like it when your governement or people are attacked... do you? Now you know how we feel by your comments. Do not throw stones when you live in a glas house buddy. Seriously... I really hope the USA is successful so these terrorists get justice for all those they murdered... like I hope we bring the terrorists Hamas and PLO to justice... get it?

Iran becoming a military dictatorship... finally the Secretary of State articulates those sacred words. Not sure about anyone else, but I've been waiting for this moment. This is were the US takes new strategic tract. US Aegis Naval destroyers with SM-3 interceptor missiles will be monitoring Iranian ports... Admiral Mullen said two days ago. Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait are coordinating tactical strategies aimed at Iranian Naval forces. This is no longer a western or Israeli imperative, this has become a regional tactic... and now this full-on diplomatic assault. If Tehran believes they have succeeded in unifying the Muslim world... they best take a second look around.

Clinton's banging the war drum but the US can't afford a war with Iran either politically or financially. She's just being naive like she was with Bibi. In Europe, war with Iran and sanctions are so low on anybody's list that they doesn't basically even make it onto the news websites. Russia still wants to sell Iran missiles and a nucelar power station and China's basically said no to any serious snactions.

Mullen is worried that the attack on Iran would cause "big, big, big problem". Mullen, obviously exaggerates. There is an old Russian joke: A customer walks into a bordello. A prostitute follows him into a private room only to stream out shouting in horror: “This is Awful! Awful! Awful!” Another, more experienced girl, walks in and immediately runs away screaming wildly: “Awful! Awful! Awful!” Then the same happens to the third one. Finally, the madam herself walks in. In about an hour, she calmly walks smiling: “Awful? Yes, awful. But definitely not: “Awful! Awful! Awful!””

What kind of catastrophe?Only antisemites see catastrophe ,for instance,in Iraq.But Olmert or Ulmert (the history should establish his real name) said that Israel is better off after Iraq invasion.And Shimon Peres pushes the youth to come in politics because nothing are more distractive than politics.He meant ,of course ,nothing are more distractive than Israel policy and politicians with him in the head..

Obama is President of the United States. Netanyahu is not and the presumption that he can dictate US policy is just that, presumptuous. An attack on Iran was not in the US interest when Bush was President. An attack on Iran now is not in the US interest. World War III is not in the interest of the US right now.

The Iranian Dictatorship will be making a big, big mistake if it continues to provoke an Israeli self-defence operation.

i seriously doubt that mark can see beyond the next day. he likes wars where the most powerful military fights distant jihadists armed with automatic rifles and rpg's. those are safe wars and he can boast about them.

obama is not president of israel. try to keep this in mind.

100 years of war...17 million fighters armored up to the teeth. a strike against iran will trigger worldwar 3 and still i belive that the world must attack and bring an end to the regime as well as the nuclear ambitions. the attack has to be NOW cause every second we loose means more dead bodys. iran is prepared already and calculates an attack, it is up to US to show them what HELL looks like. THE IRANIANS HAVE LONG ENOUGH FOOLED THE WORLD NOW IT SHALL PAY THE PRICE AND BE SILENCED FOR THE REST OF TIME! I'D RATHER DIE IN THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM THAN LIVE UNDER THE SIEGE OF TERRORISM!!!!! TIME TO BRING DESTRUCTON AND FULLFILL GOD'S WILL!

MV: "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it`s probably a duck" You want to go to war on a "probably"?????? May I suggest that if Mark has his head in the sand then you've got yours shove wayyyyyy up where the sun don't shine.....

IG: "Waiting for Iran to deploy a nuclear weapon to justify a strike makes absolutely no sense. Indeed, after Iran deploys nuclear weapons, it will be too late for a pre-emptive strike." Then what you are advocating ISN'T "preemption" at all, Ibn. What you are demanding is a "preventative" attack i.e. attacking another country to prevent it obtaining a CAPABILITIY, not to preempt its attack on your forces. Int'l customary law makes allowances for the latter, but the former is strictly forbidden i.e. launching a "preventative" attack is **not** self-defense; it is naked aggression. So by all means attack if that's what you want to do. But you better not attack and then LOSE, coz if you do then you really are in deep shit.

we all agree that under no circumstances can iran be allowed to acquire nuclear capability. what needs to be decided and soon is the strategy by which iran will be stopped from acquiring nuclear capability. while strong sanctions can be tried for a short period of time, not exceeding a few months, there have to be plans for military intervention should the sanctions not work, as they will not. war is a very serious and last resort measure. however, as the chief of staff said, "iran must not acquire nuclear capability." a nuclear iran would be a mortal threat to many in the region, including u.s. troops and bases. to israel, it would be an existentila threat.

Mullen,you know,the Iranian waiting for "us"to liberate them and to build there a democracy,a vibrant one like Jewish democracy.Please,Mullen,please..don't spoil our efforts for years,make a war,let be even a a warcik.

if Iran uses nukes against Israel.. That goes for Mullen too .. That should be assurance enough for Israel

If you don't like the message, elect a different President. The elections are already scheduled for 2012, in November. I hear Sarah Palin is maybe looking for a job then. She's out of work now.

Yes, a screw-up happened in Afghanistan. An investigation is underway by Afghanistan and the US and probably others. The press is there, too. Feel free to charge what you think you can prove. You won't even investigate or inquire.

Israel is in a no win situation when it comes down to Iran, many factors play into this yet the most important one is whatever Israel does today would be too little too late. 5 years ago maybe there would've been hope to shut Iran's nuclear ambitions down with a military strike, but today its a whole different story and i will summarize it as such; syria, hizbooullah, hamas, iran, if all four go to war with israel then its going to cause an eruption within the arab street in support of the four against 1... the heads of the arab rulers whom are pro west will role...simple ...too much build up within the Arab world and its gonna take one major spark to lite up the whole street and by that the whole region will be ablaze. any military strike doesn't guarantee that Iran's nuclear ventures will come to an end, some even state such an act may and will escalate Iran's plans for a nuclear bomb, it is too little too late.

When you went at it with Hizb you were blind on the ground. And you got your butts kicked. Now you thirst for showing your dominance might make you do stupid things which the price will be dear. But you know what? It feels that you might also be using the US as an excuse for not going the distance with Iran and not because you fear them. Me says that you will be chickens. And I am glad there will be a new bully in middle east. You deserve it Hitsrael.

I hear an "errant strike" killed Afghanistan civilians. Are we going to be bringing your leaders to the Hague? Keep judging my people buddy... you live in a glass house.

Israel will not attack Iran, however much Iran rulers would like that and therefore the international media are selling this hype.

Mullen is the most appalling man to be in such a position. He has said the same thing on his last visit. He is weak, inept and the issue of Israel protecting itself does not register on his "map". The only thing that does is that if Israel does do something it will be bad "for the rest of us ".

But it appears clear that Obama will do what his massa Netanyahu wants him to do.

Let me tell you what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad plans to do as soon as he has a missile loaded with a nuclear warhead. He is going to paint something on that missile and it will probably say, "Israel. This Is For You!" I know he will do this unless the USA stops him somehow. He may not even fire that missile necessarily, but he will definitely taunt and threaten Israel with that weapon as he has done at every single opportunity in the past. I'm right and it's too bad Mousavi didn't take power, because if Mousavi was the President Of Iran, Mousavi would in no way represent that Country as if it were being run by a Crazy Man. The threat would seem more aimed at Saudi Arabia and other US Allies, that Iran has had disputes with in the past. Many Muslims still don't know Mahmoud is their enemy because he is good at diverting their attention towards the Israelis using Palestine. That's his game, if you boys haven't figured that out yet. Good Luck and God Bless!

This seems to be the same role play what happened before Iraq attack, but the players are now under great difficulty to swallow global citizen the acting of hypocracy and double standard, nobody buys it now. So what? Simply get over with Iranian nuke as you did for Pakistan and N Korea. Obama's change has taken place in Tehran NOT in USA or Israel. Days of hunking and punking are over. Indeed, you are in very bad position so as AIPAC.

'Iran doesn`t have nukes or a proven weapons program.' 'If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck' ... although it might be hard for an ostrich to see it, since it keeps its head buried in the sand. MV

The bottom line is that Israel isn't just going to sit around waiting to be nuked by a regime whose words and actions more closely resembles Hitler's Germany of the 1930's than any other since then. The US, for all its imagery of backing Israel politically, has an extremely poor track record of delivering, when the chips are down, on security "guarantees" it gives Israel in exchange for Israeli restraint. Lip service aside, no Israeli government makes a policy of relying on US guarantees, and the Obama White House has less credibility in Israel than any US gov't in the last 50 years. Bottom Line: Israel will act to defend its existance - it knows Aegis boats bobbing safely way out in the Med are worthless, and last time Israel relied on promises of Patriots (vs. hitting Iraq back), everybody knows what happened: they missed every single time, as the Pentagon knew they would. The Jews had no nukes to wipe out the Nazis in 1938; today is different from then in only one way, NOW WE DO!

God, are you perceptive.

That is similar to the days prior to the Iraq war. Today, at cnn's Fareed Zakaria GPS. Richard Haas and Bret Stephens from the Wall Street Journal, two notable neo-cons are starting to sell the idea that The U.S. not israel should attack Iran preemptively because Iran is a threat to the U.S. and its interests in the M.E. (israel). As usual those guys want to spend American lives and treasure for the sake of protecting israel. This game will not be played again as the U.S. interest is to leave Iran alone and use it to sell arms to the Gulf Countries this will help us cover part of the deficits we are running. This is the U.S. national interest.

Mark of Lewiston You sound like a pacifist fool. What is irresponsible about or preemptive about depriving Iran of nuclear capability ? There will a regional war and yes a third world war.It's the way it always goes.History proves my point. What make's you think Iran won't bait Israel into a War ? LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER. Do you really think Admiral Mullen is going to give his hand away in public ?

Who cares about the consequences?

Mark suggests that there should be no pre-emptive stike by Israel because "Iran doesn`t have nukes..." Once again Mark demonstrate a lack of logical reasoning. Waiting for Iran to deploy a nuclear weapon to justify a strike makes absolutely no sense. Indeed, after Iran deploys nuclear weapons, it will be too late for a pre-emptive strike.

Israel can't afford to jeopardise its existence for the sake of Obama politics. Under Obama administration all talking that Iran should not have nuclear weapons are useless waste of time since US is not doing anything real to stop Iran.

I would HOPE so. But it is ISRAEL which is faced with being OBLITERATED by a Nuclear Iran. Sorry that you may have to be inconvenienced if Israels decide they simply HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. And it is OBAMA who is the problem, not Israel. It is his anti-Israeli attitude and attempt to put Israel's security on the chopping block though his APPEASEMENT of Muslim terror that is the problem. Your Boss, Mr. Mullen, won't even use the words "Muslim" and "Terror" in the same sentence. Some "leader." Maybe you and he should worry about Iranian radiological bombs exploding in U.S. cities, courtesy of Iranian terror proxies. Sleep on that, Mr. Mullen.

No irresponsible or preemptive attacks seems to be the message. No regional war. No third world war. The US is providing advanced Aegis Radar and SM-3s and Advanced Patriot 3s. Iran isn't going to land troops and doesn't have the aircraft capability. Iran doesn't have nukes or a proven weapons program.

Unintended consequences? How's this. Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and Israel....gone, with millions of casualties. New York burning, millions gone. Russia and China unscathed. Salaam/Shalom