Vice Premier and ex-IDF chief cancels U.K. visit over arrest fears

Israel has never asked any other country to fight it`s battles and it`s soldiers are led by some of the bravest warriors in the world. Unfortunately Britain is politically correct when it comes to dealing with the enemy within the country who clamour for special interest laws and the destruction of democracy and then send troops externally to fight the same enemy.

The anti Israeli`s feel that Israel does not have a right to self defence so obviously they want Israel to be destroyed. I`m not surprised because even in the UK people who are victimized by criminals usually get charged when they defend themselves. It just goes to prove that Britain has lost it`s decency and morality and is drifting to the depths of ----.

Sorry, the Wiesenthal Center does only hunt non-Jewish war criminals...

I will vacation in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, instead.

The hell with them. How many Jewish refugees did the British manage to prevent from coming to Palestine before Independence ? They think they are superior. But, as Disraeli once remarked when someone in Parliment made a anti-Jewish slur; ...when blokes were scratching the earth for mushrooms on this isle there were Jewish Kings in Jerusalem's palaces.

You can kill women, children, wipe out entire families (see recent Gaza war) and claim you had no choice because your target was a (one-dimensional, dehumanized) "terrorist".

shield?He knew bloody well what he was doing and risking when he returned home from his Kill the Jew trip,washed blood from his hands and hid behind his familly and neighbors. Why terrorists should be untouchable when they use human shield for their defence? Are Jewish civilians also untouchable for them? Did you say NO?

Hi Marco Marco I agree with most of what you have said.BTW, the Israeli lobby support is based on mutual interest, thats how the world runs.As a person who wants to be a good human being, I have criticized our appalling human rights record of the past, lack of investment in the East (kurds) of turkey and many other things of course. Which country doesnt have mistakes or policies that may not be correct? England? u.S? Rwanda?Congo? China? Australia? etc But thats the thing, Israelis should admit their faults just as millions of Turks do in turkey and americans do in the U.S and so on. Why get so defensive about it. The relevant issue hear is not what turkey did 50, 100 yrs ago, its what Israel does right now and in Gaza and Lebanon.Civilian deaths, demolished homes,barriers,check points,humanitarian crisis in Gaza,blockades,brutality,humiliation,shooting stone throwers,bombing power houses,uprooting ancient olive trees,settlemnts on palestinian property etc etc etc. the list goes on.

this is what happnened in gaza war, 1400 palestinian death. what a shame israel, they dont learn nothing with 2 world war.this is very sad, lets put all this things in a memory and forget, no no no justice now.

A prudent move. The days when any government or military official can do anything they wish without fear of prosecution is ending. I would recommend that Israeli officials - and for that matter those of Hamas - consider carefully any future travel plans.

Nobel price while victims of his violence risk jail. It seems that the hunting season is open. Again...

america is run by jews and not americans? over 47% in government are jews.

violations of human rights,not to mention Fatah. Strangely enough the sanctimonious noise makers never seem to notice anything there but pull out their human rights flag and wave it when it suits them.They are not anti Israel of course are they? Care to mention where you protested the Hamas summary executions??

they can spin it along for as long as they are prepared to pay lawyers to keep talking.

The Armenian genocide doesnt need to be researched because it is as clear and as documented as the Holocaust which only fools and biased ones may deny. Besides we all know how the Turkish government has been responding to anyone bringing that topic into attention, even the EU. Turkey should never be admited to the EU for many reasons including that one. Besides, the Khazuq, which is a horrific death tool, a sharpe stake or pole on which those sentenced to death were seated (to those who havent heared of), a tole which is at least still to be found in Syria, was an ottoman creatively created tool. That by itself reflex the turkish cruelty and their abilitiy to do events such as the Armenian genocide. so instead of suggesting that "Israelis should come to terms with the truth.Nothing wrong with that", i would suggest that the Turkish people should very well fit in that sentence!

It's going to get worse as European and other governments buckle under Islamic pressure. These countries will lose out as the economic climate worsens. Strange that the former fascist countries,Italy and Germany are backing Israel, Israeli leaders can visit these countries without fear of persecution ie:arrest. Both countries are the safest for Europes jewish communities.

I happen to think they are war criminals also . But this site is about Israeli War criminals ---get it Gil. Didn,t think so. BTW It is "Rediculous". Hope you learned something. Now which "Irish" was defending the british. Indicentally the tally is far higher than 1400. Your composite number killed began long before Cast lead as did your war crimes. Always making a twit of yourself---aren,t you Gil.

Please be sure to publicise the fact that you are boycotting Britain and why. Replacing a market of 6 million with one of 1.5 billion will definetly be a downer. And if we are really pushed into a corner economically Iran wants enriched Uranium and we have got some. 250 tons of Plutonium at the last count as well.

Labhras I understand we the Israeli people have earned the title of War Criminals because we have killed a composite of 1400 in Gaza, and not the British American standard of tens to hundreds of thousands of civilians in their civilized warfare. I have taken your note and I will pass it on to my government as ridicules as it is! Maybe we could learn something from you after all, although I really don`t think so!

Labhras I understand we the Israeli people have earned the title of War Criminals because we have killed a composite of 1400 in Gaza, and not the British American standard of tens to hundreds of thousands of civilians in their civilized warfare. I have taken your note and I will pass it on to my government as ridicules as it is! Maybe we could learn something from you after all, although I really don`t think so!

Remember when the IAF targeted Shahadeh in his partment at 2am and in the process, knowing full well what they were doing, killied 16 civilians also asleep in the aprtment building. Is the IDF still investigating the timing of that one? Was that not a war crime substantial enough to keep these generals out of Europe as war criminals?

If it was not for the state of Israel and the organized Jewish groups in the USA and around the world USA and many other countries would have had an Armenian Genocide bill passed in their countries in addition to Switzerland, France and Lebanon etc. who already have one. After this Turkey would have to face many international law suits demanding monetary compensation as well as even land for the Armenians. It is thanks to Israel and Jews around the world that this i snot happening. But let also remind you that my parents and family lost a lot during the Varlik Vergis which was never returned back. A big office building in Bankalar caddesi Istanbul, farm land and olive groves around Milas and Gulluk in addition to even the furniture, carpets pots and pans. Do you believe that Varlik vergisi was not a crime against none Muslims in Turkey which went with no punishment for the perpetrators like PM Sukru Saracoglu (BTW: To this day he is honored by giving his name to sport stadiums etc.)

The hard work paid off - he stinks of fear. He'll think twice before setting foot in this country. May the children he murdered come back to haunt him

"What they are trying to do is using a World Wide PR campaign to create anti Israeli sentiments" What Israel is trying to do on a daily basis is presenting anything critical of Israel as an anti-semitic move. So what?

You may also wish to applaud when some billions of dollars are removed from your economy. I know I will. Enjoy the lost jobs. UK - proud to be the successor to the Third Reich.

"SS officers were hanged for leading reprisal raids in which a town was attacked and a number of the residents slaughtered (like Qibya and Sharon). Sharon was elected head of the country" Which shows the mentality of the country. They liked those kinds of revenge killings when they weren't the victims...

Hi Marco The Armenian issue dates back to 100 yrs and is still under research and is not relevant to the Israeli crimes of this moment, and non - muslim turks not being able to work in govt companies? I used to work with an Armenian when I was in THY. So maybe u should check on that. And if Turkey is guilty of anything,past and present, then an international court case should be filed against it, which so far hasnt. When it comes to Israeli crimes, its no secret of the war crimes committed.Its all there in the open,facts and figures prove it and even a pro israeli Goldstone has reported the war crimes.And anyone who doesnt see this is obviously and simply insensitive and hateful and just agrees with brutal israeli occupation.Israelis should come to terms with the truth.Nothing wrong with that.

The best example of how IDF people are not arrested for war crimes is Sharon. SS officers were hanged for leading reprisal raids in which a town was attacked and a number of the residents slaughtered (like Qibya and Sharon). Sharon was elected head of the country.

our General and Minister of Defence

"I won`t buy UK goods or travel there." Rather than not travel there you should ensure that you are not traveling on Rolls Royce aircraft engines ... they are pretty widely found.

....the State", complains Ya'alon. No need to bother. Israel is quite successfully delegitimizing itself, greatly helped by the likes of Ya'alon of course.

The leaders of a nation are the representatives who soit on negotiation table when it comes to negotiate peace with their adversaries. Without these leaders there is no one to make peace with. This attempt by the Arabs to initiate arrest warrants for Israeli leaders to me is another sign that Arabs are not at all interested in making peace with Israel. What they are trying to do is using a World Wide PR campaign to create anti Israeli sentiments and eventually destroy Israel. They launch the qassams, keep captive Israeli soldiers so that eventually Israel has to do something strong against it and they use it against Israel. Unfortunately so far it looks like it may be working however there are also signs that the tide is changing. See the new political landscape in France, Germany and other north European countries and you may start getting the feeling of it. When you overdo it, it backfires on you.

"One fine day Israel will be held to account for its daily war crimes. Long live the Palestinians" And to the establishment of the Palestinian State...

from Afghanistan, that includes your wonderboy Prince Harry too, howmany Afghan civilians have already been killed by British forces in Afghanistan??? Or what about that rather awful behaviour of shelling Basra while deployed in Iraq???Shouldnt every British soldier within that division be put up for war crimes???

for war crimes in Afghanistan, whats good for the goose is good for the gander, or even better arrest your own lot first, we wont have to do the favour for you. It is estimated that UK might turn into an islamic state by 2050, well all I can say it serves you all right.

This may turn out to be an effective strategy to make Israeli leaders think twice before committing the next round of war crimes.

on charges of "blowing up public places" before Saudis had to admit the perps were locals ,had no defenders in the Brit judiciary. On the contrary ,their familes were shouted at by then the FM Jack Straw and warned "not to rock the boat". No Brit court would ever consider arresting the Saudi security officials ,identical with members of the Saudi Royal Family ,having poshy apprtments overlooking the Hyde Park and visiting Lodon on regular basis. Push your drivel to your own "Guardian" crowd -until the day Brit generals will be arrested and tried for murders commited in Serbia and Iraq and Afghanistan.

As long as this sort of thing is applied in an even handed manner, I fully support it. If you commit crimes against humanity and set foot in Britain you should be arrested on the spot. I don't care if you're Moshe from the IDF or Mohammed from Hamas, people who commit such crimes should not have the freedom to walk the streets of my country. Just a pity they didn't arrest Mugabe when he was here.

Similar situation was in Belgium. Lefties tried to sue Sharon for Sabra and Shatila. Eventualy some smart ass used the same law to sue the ring leader of the 'sue Sharon' campain Louis Michel for some thing or other in Congo. Louis Michel nearly died from anger and the low was quickly amended. Can not the UK law be used to issue an arest warrant against PA? Against Russian government, SA etc?

Apart from Chaim, Mark and Marco I think I love everyone on this discussion board. One fine day Israel will be held to account for its daily war crimes. Long live the Palestinians.

Thats alright I won't travel to Israel or buy their products either. Obviously you put Israel above the United states even though you live there. I will remind you that British troops are fighting and dying in Afghanistan alongside American troops. Which can be more than said for Israel. But then you Israel firsters are all the same, want to live the good life without following the courage of your convictions. We have them in the UK as well.

.....Mr Kahan. If arab muslims did control Britain, you can bet there would be intense pressure from the British government to bring to book the Zionist regime. And your politicians who landed on British soil, would have been promptly arrested. Understand!!?? So stop this diatribe. Aren't we glad that these despots cannot come to Britain without fear of being humiliated. Gee, if they were to imprisoned, the muslim inmates would have a field day. P.S Ya'alon has blood of the innocents on his hands.

We have spent a lot of time and energy getting this up and running. The fact that Israelis are now having to change their behaviour and think twice before entering Britain is extremely interesting news. Perhaps thats why Netanyahu spent Lebanon2 in Britain, he was sorting out his defence.

A tough request, to find someone willing to sit, perhaps for months in a UK prison, but perhaps the only way to resolve this." david o Shouldn,t be a problem David. You had plenty heroes brave enough to drop white Phospherous on children.Or sufficiently heroic to murder Palestinians waving white flags or marksmen shooting women fleeing the carnage. Sure David ---Israel is full of brave souls. But none brave enough to go to gaol for their sins.You see they know they are guilty--therein lies the rub. Pathetic piece of apologia.

Wow, Dr. Mark what's the prognosis? Is the UK economy going to go under without your patronage? While we're about it, are you boycotting Israel as well? I understand they need talented professionals like yourself over there. Why are you stuck in Oakland, California? If you need a free ticket to make aliyah I can point you to the relevant website.

to Britain, have you? It is not quite like Israel. There are hardly any Arab Muslims here. In fact all Muslims account for under 3% of the population. Another thing is that the judiciary is independent and simply upholds the law. Government pressure on the courts rarely produces any results, it generally just puts judges' backs up. Public interest defence, like in the BEe bribes allegations in Saudi, rarely succeed, that one will get into court sooner rather than later. Any person or group can launch a private action and it is judged solely on its legal merits. If Ya'alon has a case to answer, then some judge or appeal court will eventually grant an order, despite the FO and Government trying to obstruct justice. You and Mark Klein would clearly rather have a dictatorship, where governments tell the courts the verdicts they want. Sadly, this isn't Israel, we try to do things differently.

Keeping Israeli war criminals out of Europe is job one. Even if we never get to put them where they belong ---in prison---we can at least make their lives miserable. These cretins can get used to vacationg in Israel or what is left of it after it becomes a bi national state. I wonder where these fugitives will go then. Argentina perhaps. How Ironic.We will have to ask the Simon Weisenthal center to assist in finding them. They do hunt war criminals ---dont they.

Marco, as you said yourself, the soldier that was convicted because he shot and killed a "British Peace Lover". Yes that's right, British citizen. If the victim would have been Palestinian, then as you know there would not have even been a discussion. Even when there is video evidence of wrong doing by the IDF, nothing comes of it. And this is a fact. Remember the brave IDF soldier who shot a Palestinian in the foot (caught on video). Remember the settlers shooting the Palestinian farmers /caught on video). And please stick to the discussion at hand and not take all tangents on how other countries are doing this and that. We are discussing israel here.

Do not forget us in your boycott. "Stuff like this is why I`m boycotting the UK" MK (md???) We will arrest every Israeli war criminal that sets foot on Erin,s green Isle. Not to worry, we will give them a huge Cead Mile Failte and for squares a day.May not be kosher though.Plenty of Bacon,cabbage and spuds. So dont forget --do not buy Irish ow better still ---do not come here. you can always go on a camping trip in Tilden Park. Oh and we will be boycotting all contraband from Israel that they grow on stolen lands.

... it's vexing enough hearing his extreme potifications here in Israel...

I won't buy UK goods or travel there.

Real heroes are brave. Never fearful of the truth. Never fearful of the rule of law.

Hi Mehmet, what about 1 million Armenian innocent civilians killed by your army? What about non Muslim Turks not being able to work in public companies i.e THY, and many more? What about the Kurds? Lots of questions about the integrity of your country which is magnificecnt by the way. Israel is a TRUE democracy where its leaders are prosecuted for any kind of wrong doings and the IDF soldiers arrested if they commit any kind of crimes, Remember the soldier who killed a British "peace lover" in the so called palestinian territories. Cheers.

UK is not a country which arrests people on fake charges upon their arrival. It is obvious, video-proven several times that IDF commits regularly horrible crimes and is an army populated by mostly teenagers who are unable to even grasp the gravity of the crimes. In Israel if you are a war criminal like Mofaz, you are declared a hero just like Slobodan Milosevic was declared hero in Serbia.

The fact that one is a war hero has no bearing on whether he has committed crimes and on whether he should pay for doing so. It's quite interesting how criminals always say that enforcing the laws they broke is a function of prejudice against them.

The UK government does not want these prosecutions. In the UK it's possible to bring a private prosecution, and that's what's being attempted in these cases. For an Israeli minister or other official to be arrested and tried on UK soil would be a major embarrassment to the UK government. So the UK government keeps finessing the issue; delaying trials, warning off Israeli officials. We could go on like this for a long time, but what's really needed is for some brave sole to bite the bullet and to volunteer to be arrested. That would force the UK government (and several others) to finally face up to the misuse of universal jurisdiction legislation. A tough request, to find someone willing to sit, perhaps for months in a UK prison, but perhaps the only way to resolve this.

How disgusting that a war hero like Ya'alon must be harassed by Arab trouble makers. The problem now a days is that Brits are scared of Muslim mobs rioting so they give in their every demand. How sad that Britain is controlled by Arab Muslims and not British people.

in order to respect international law. One also doesn't have to be pro-Palestinian to respect humanitarian law as.

...wait until a minor officer or functionary finally gets caught up. That will start the avalanche until Israel finally follows the rule of law.

I don't think the people of any democracy would like to be seen as endorsing the the Israeli illegal occupation and genocide of the Palestinian people, and as a consequence Israelis should perhaps think twice before visiting the UK!