U.S tensions put Jerusalem construction on hold
Planning Committee instructed to halt work, chairman has not yet signed off on already approved plans.
By Nir Hasson Tags: Jerusalem Barack Obama Israel newsConstruction requiring the approval of Jerusalem's district planning committee has been on hold for more than a month in all parts of the city due to concerns about a new crisis in ties with the United States.
Staff members of the Jerusalem District Planning and Building Committee have been instructed to halt their work in an effort to spare Israel further embarrassing incidents like the March announcement, during U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Israel, of plans to expand the Jewish neighborhood of Ramat Shlomo in East Jerusalem.
Architects have said district committee chairwoman Ruth Yosef is not even signing off on plans that have already been approved, causing a backlog. The district committee has not met for over a month and upcoming hearings have been canceled.
The architects say when they ask about the reason for the freeze on committee activity they are told it is because of U.S. President Barack Obama. The stoppage is even affecting approval by Arab developers for Palestinian residents of the city. The freeze is also liable to affect plans to fence off the Gazelle Valley in the western part of the city to protect a herd of gazelles that have been attacked by packs of stray dogs.
Unlike the district committee, the local planning committee is functioning normally, and small-scale projects have not been affected by the stoppage.
The Jerusalem municipality said Sunday it is showing sensitivity in light of the circumstances, but said there was no intention to stop the work of the local committee.
The Interior Ministry said the documentation required to resume the work of the district committee has been prepared, at the request of a separate panel appointed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after the Ramat Shlomo announcement. The ministry said planning institutions in the capital were awaiting that committee's instructions.
The Prime Minister's Bureau said there has been no change in the construction policy in the capital.
"The building and planning policy in Jerusalem has not changed and is identical to that conducted by all Israeli governments," the bureau said in a statement. "In the course of drawing lessons from the incident at the time of U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Israel, procedure is currently being developed that will ensure that an incident such as this is not repeated with respect to the timing of the release of proceedings of diplomatic sensitivity."
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In your research did you find any country, beside Israel, that has occupied another people's territory for almost 43 years? Any that are in violation of more UN resolutions than any other country in the world? Any that have placed a genocidal blockade on a population of over 1.5 million people considered to be the worst violation of human rights taking place in the world today? Any that is in violation of 5 articles of the 4th Geneva Convention: knowing the breach of any article can be considered a war crime? Any that has received over $3 trillion in aid from another country since 1948? Any that could not have survived without that aid and the economic, military and political support that came with it? Any that without another countries vetoes in the UN Security Council would have been called before the International Criminal Court in the Hague on war crime charges at a level of frequency no nation has faced since the end of WWII? And you speak of chutzpah?
Three times during the past six months, the U.S. Government has ?punished? Israel,? Begin began. He enumerated those three occasions: the destruction of the Iraqi nuclear reactor, the bombing of the PLO headquarters in Beirut, and now the Golan Heights law. Throughout this exposition, according to Avner, Lewis interjected but without success: ?Not punishing you, Mr. Prime Minister, merely suspending ?,? ?Excuse me, Mr. Prime Minister, it was not ?,? ?Mr. Prime Minister, I must correct you ?,? and ?This is not a punishment, Mr. Prime Minister, it?s merely a suspension until ?? Fully to vent his anger, Begin drew on a century of Zionism: What kind of expression is this ? ?punishing Israel?? Are we a vassal state of yours? Are we a banana republic? Are we youths of fourteen who, if they don?t behave properly, are slapped across the fingers? Let me tell you who this government is composed of. It is composed of people whose lives were spent in resistance, in fighting and in suffering. You will not frighten us with ?punishments.? He who threatens us will find us deaf to his threats. We are only prepared to listen to rational arguments. You have no right to ?punish? Israel ? and I protest at the very use of this term. In his most stinging attack on the United States, Begin challenged American moralizing about civilian casualties during the Israeli attack on Beirut: You have no moral right to preach to us about civilian casualties. We have read the history of World War II and we know what happened to civilians when you took action against an enemy. We have also read the history of the Vietnam war and your phrase ?body-count.? Responding to demands that the Golan Heights law be rescinded, Begin sourced the very concept of rescission to ?the days of the Inquisition? and reminded Lewis that: Our forefathers went to the stake rather than ?rescind? their faith. We are not going to the stake. Thank God. We have enough strength to defend our independence and to defend our rights. ? please be kind enough to inform the secretary of state that the Golan Heights Law will remain valid. There is no force on earth that can bring about its rescission. The session ended without Lewis responding. As Avner recounts, ?Faced with this unyielding barrage, which to the ambassador seemed somewhat hyperbolic and, in part, even paranoid, he saw no point in carrying on, so he took his.leave. Now that?s how our present leaders should act and not bow down to the USA!
support you Mr president. I certainly do not. I agree with #2 Jerusalem should not now and not ever be divided. Obama, mind you own business, you have no right to tell Israel what to do regarding her own domestic policies. I'm with you Bibi. This Christian stands with Israel.
I've been wracking my brain and I can't think of another country that has the chutzpah to insist that its capital is actually a city that is situated on foreign soil.... Most countries understand that you have to have SOVEREIGNTY over a city before you can claim it as your capital, but that little detail appears to be only a minor inconvenience as far as Israel is concerned. Apparently. Nobody granted Israel any sovereignty over *any* part of Jerusalem. And nobody recognizes that Israel has a "right" to unilaterally claim sovereignty. So if Israel wants sovereignty over Jerusalem then it has to have that claim acknowledged by the rest of the world, and the world has one simple answer for Israel: Go Talk To The Palestinians And See If They Will Agree. Absent that agreement then Israel is going to be absent that recognition.
To Joseph Steinberg: your response here is typical of the other liberal Jews who voted Obama into office. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. I suppose I am just one from a small handful of Jews who voted against him, because of what he is. And before you play the race card, it has nothing to do with his skin color. To the Israeli citizenry, I can promise no way will Hussein Obama get a second term.
Bibi is not attending the "nuclear summit" in DC because he knows that Obama and the other attending nations will look to gang up on Israel.
""Tel Aviv is the internationally recognized capital of Israel" Please tell me what other country in the world had the International community pick their capitol for them?" Only Israel, BRL, only Israel. Why? Because only Israel thinks it can establish it's capital in a disputed area while oppressing the non-jewish residents of the area.
A large part thanks to Obamas anti Israel policies public support for the right in Israel is as strong as it was before the election if not stronger as the public unite around a right wing government who is being attacked by a hostile and racist US president. Topple Bibi & Livni probably will loose again & put the right wing in the drivers seat again & Likud may even replace Bibi by a hardliner like Moshe Felgin having lost faith in him to stand up to Obama. In the end Obamas attempt to overthrow the elected right wing government so he can have his left wing puppet installed in its place will have failed but he will have created more instability in Israel which is not in US interests. It would also kill any of Obamas attempts to push Israel into making a bad deal so he can have his legacy so everything would backfire on him. Better to do a deal with Bibi in return for an ongoing suspension of building in Judea & Samaria in exchange he will turn a blind eye to all Jerusalem building.
Unlike the recent ones(no names) When Israel Stood Up to Washington As U.S.-Israel tensions climb to unfamiliar heights, they recall a prior round of tensions nearly thirty years ago, when Menachem Begin and Ronald Reagan were in charge. In contrast to Binyamin Netanyahu?s repeated apologies, Begin adopted a quite different approach. The sequence of events started with a statement from Syrian dictator Hafiz al-Asad that he would not make peace with Israel ?even in a hundred years,? Begin responded by making the Golan Heights part of Israel, terminating the military administration that had been governing that territory from the time Israeli forces seized it from Syria in 1967. Legislation to this effect easily passed Israel?s parliament on Dec. 14, 1981. This move came, however, just two weeks after the signing of a U.S.-Israel Strategic Cooperation Agreement, prompting much irritation in Washington. At the initiative of Secretary of State Alexander Haig, the U.S. government suspended that just-signed agreement. One day later, on Dec. 20, Begin summoned Samuel Lewis, the U.S. ambassador in Tel Aviv, for a dressing-down. Yehuda Avner, a former aide to Begin, provides atmospherics and commentary on this episode at ?When Washington bridled and Begin fumed.? As he retells it, ?The prime minister invited Lewis to take a seat, stiffened, sat up, reached for the stack of papers on the table by his side, put them on his lap and [adopted] a face like stone and a voice like steel.? Begin began with ?a thunderous recitation of the perfidies perpetrated by Syria over the decades.? He ended with what he called ?a very personal and urgent message? to President Reagan (available at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs website). And there?s more
or "going in and out as logios" would have it. to convert an israeli defensive posture where it defends its borders and its citizens into a definition of "occupation" is nonsense of the first order.
so your position as to occupation is clear: 1 control of airspace. 2 control of territorial waters 3 "going in and out of gaza" 4 the united nations says israel is an occupier. i have replied to the air space issue control of territorial waters.you think that the issue of "fault" is not a legal issue.quite untrue.here if gaza behaved like a normal neighbour israel would have no reason to control its sea lanes. it is nonsense to say that gaza is occupied on that account. fault is an important issue in law.if you insist it is not then a new discussion would certainly follow. the united nations has no credibility for israel because it is structurally an anti israel organisation
we have offered all to the palestinians at both camp david and taba. olmert made a similar offer to abbas.saeb erekat himself confirmed the offer and the refusal of the offer. so i am puzzled why you see the value in direct talks.something we have been doing pre obama for years.
that would create a precedent that would be used against israel.no legal mind would accept that solution.
.what in your understanding makes an occupation.had you done so we would solve the problem right away. 1 occupation is implied when the state concerned has no recourse but to be served and serviced by the "occupier" 2 that is not the case with gaza because egypt is as able to be that provider of services as israel is. you say control of air space is the a key factor.during the war of attrition israel controlled egyptian air space. israel has full control of lebanese and indeed syrian air space.no one accuses israel of occupying those two neighbours. i do remember one more idea you brought forward under your previous incarnation (ben gurion) you said that stronger nations occupied their weaker nations by virtue of their overwhelming strength.a ludicrous claim i hope you no longer hold.
Dear Moshe, Have you seen our financial system lately. We maybe borrowing from Israel. China at some point will want their debt due at some later date. The deserts in Israel are growing miracles. Maybe we should learn more about agricultural growth from Israel. There might not be anything left in the USA but the Statue of Liberty holding a Cup. I'll pray for Israel and you pray for us. OK Shalom!
Speak for yourself! Th American people are sick and tired of Israel thumbing its nose at the USA and the rest of the world. They get away with policies and decisions that flaunt international law and the will of the international community. Americans are waking up and realizing that our unconditional support of this government is embarrassing and not in the best interests of our national security!! Only crazy Christians Zionists are behind Bibi!
President Obama offered netanyahu DIRECT negotiations with the Palestinians if construction in East Jerusalem is halted for 4 months. netanyahu should accept, and instead of doing anything against his ideology he can simply freeze the activity of Jerusalem's district planning committee for 4 months, as is happening right now. This will have the added advantage for Netanyahu of treating East and West Jerusalem in exactly the same way, no new neighborhoods here, neither there. Seems ideologically "correct". If this lasts only 4 months, I don't see the big deal.
Obama needs that and Israel needs Obama. Nothing tremendous will happen if building in Jerusalem is postponed. Giving peace a chance is not a bad idea , and Israel should take it. Although Israel has the legitimate historical right to build in its capital, it is more important to give options to other alternatives. One of them is to drop the ball to the palestinian courtyard.
With a thunderous applause--NOT!
Could not find any country,even one unimportant one,to have strangers order as to where their sovereign country's capital should be. Ridiculous? More than that.Unbelievable chutzpah!
President Obama offered netanyahu DIRECT negotiations with the Palestinians if construction in East Jerusalem is halted for 4 months. netanyahu should accept, and instead of doing anything against his ideology he can simply freeze the activity of Jerusalem's district planning committee for 4 months, as is happening right now. This will have the added advantage for Netanyahu of treating East and West Jerusalem in exactly the same way, no new neighborhoods here, neither there. Seems ideologically "correct". If this lasts only 4 months, I don't see the big deal.
I am paraphasing,but very apt and importnt. When Israel Stood Up to Washington As U.S.-Israel tensions climb to unfamiliar heights, they recall a prior round of tensions nearly thirty years ago, when Menachem Begin and Ronald Reagan were in charge. In contrast to Binyamin Netanyahu?s repeated apologies, Begin adopted a quite different approach. The sequence of events started with a statement from Syrian dictator Hafiz al-Asad that he would not make peace with Israel ?even in a hundred years,? Begin responded by making the Golan Heights part of Israel, terminating the military administration that had been governing that territory from the time Israeli forces seized it from Syria in 1967. Legislation to this effect easily passed Israel?s parliament on Dec. 14, 1981. This move came, however, just two weeks after the signing of a U.S.-Israel Strategic Cooperation Agreement, prompting much irritation in Washington. At the initiative of Secretary of State Alexander Haig, the U.S. government suspended that just-signed agreement. One day later, on Dec. 20, Begin summoned Samuel Lewis, the U.S. ambassador in Tel Aviv, for a dressing-down. Yehuda Avner, a former aide to Begin, provides atmospherics and commentary on this episode at ?When Washington bridled and Begin fumed.? As he retells it, ?The prime minister invited Lewis to take a seat, stiffened, sat up, reached for the stack of papers on the table by his side, put them on his lap and [adopted] a face like stone and a voice like steel.? Begin began with ?a thunderous recitation of the perfidies perpetrated by Syria over the decades.? He ended with what he called ?a very personal and urgent message? to President Reagan (available at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs website). And there?s more
A good way out for Netanyahu, Israel and the whole Middle East, is for Netanyahu to linch himself and all of his cabinate ministers along side all of the far right fanatic religious leaders and all of the settlers. This will accomplish a few good things. One, ridding Israel of the major stumbling blocks for peace, Two, raising Israel I.Q. enormously.
Just paraphrasing worthy to note the difference between the previous Israeli PM's and the present ones NOW: When Israel Stood Up to Washington As U.S.-Israel tensions climb to unfamiliar heights, they recall a prior round of tensions nearly thirty years ago, when Menachem Begin and Ronald Reagan were in charge. In contrast to Binyamin Netanyahu?s repeated apologies, Begin adopted a quite different approach. The sequence of events started with a statement from Syrian dictator Hafiz al-Asad that he would not make peace with Israel ?even in a hundred years,? Begin responded by making the Golan Heights part of Israel, terminating the military administration that had been governing that territory from the time Israeli forces seized it from Syria in 1967. Legislation to this effect easily passed Israel?s parliament on Dec. 14, 1981. This move came, however, just two weeks after the signing of a U.S.-Israel Strategic Cooperation Agreement, prompting much irritation in Washington. At the initiative of Secretary of State Alexander Haig, the U.S. government suspended that just-signed agreement. One day later, on Dec. 20, Begin summoned Samuel Lewis, the U.S. ambassador in Tel Aviv, for a dressing-down. Yehuda Avner, a former aide to Begin, provides atmospherics and commentary on this episode at ?When Washington bridled and Begin fumed.? As he retells it, ?The prime minister invited Lewis to take a seat, stiffened, sat up, reached for the stack of papers on the table by his side, put them on his lap and [adopted] a face like stone and a voice like steel.? Begin began with ?a thunderous recitation of the perfidies perpetrated by Syria over the decades.? He ended with what he called ?a very personal and urgent message? to President Reagan (available at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs website). And there?s more
Posted: "The American public supports the Jewish 1 state solution not the arab 1 state solution". This is the reason why you had 911 and probably will have more of the same in the future. Because the American public and its government are racist and ignorant and support regims that inflic suffering on others. All you care about is someone who will serve your interests and do your dirty work for you. This is why you are all hated around the world.
This is the response to Bibi's 10 month freeze. Give them an inch - they demand a mile! 61 years from now the Pals will still be talking about talking about talks, but will demand the building freeze stay put!
"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians" ~ Nelson Mandela Peace from Gaza City
President Obama offered netanyahu DIRECT negotiations with the Palestinians if construction in East Jerusalem is halted for 4 months. netanyahu should accept, and instead of doing anything against his ideology he can simply freeze the activity of Jerusalem's district planning committee for 4 months, as is happening right now. This will have the added advantage for Netanyahu of treating East and West Jerusalem in exactly the same way, no new neighborhoods here, neither there. Seems ideologically "correct". If this lasts only 4 months, I don't see the big deal.
I take it you suscribe to the UK returing Northern Ireland to its rightful owners. We have lots of your scottish brethern over here ---who did not exactly purchase their lands. You never let the aborigines plight concern you when PSM is spoofing from Occupied Aborigine Melbourne.. Hypocrite. As ever H, you prove yourself an idiot.
Oh to be sure and begora Iggy of Ophir. Tings are sure a wee bit complicated. But the Lord above knows,the trials and tribulations that Israel has had to endure. We must bow our heads and pray/oremus. Its salvation needed,and will vanquish te devil trut to say. The devil is the enemy of the JUST AND and powerful Lord above who will never be BEATEN. Israel and Holy Jerusalem will always be the Capital of the Holy Jewish state. Praise be the Lord of Hosts. Amen
BUT MGB! That is what politics is all about: theatrics, melodrama, duplicity, dissembling, tea parties, and money - but, above all: talk, talk, talk.
Published a prayer book dedicated to: LORD OF HOSTS AND MESSIAH OBAMA YET? If not,hurry,hurry elections might turn out a disappointment to your likes who voted him IN. And to many of the ones chagrin no doubt.
"Israel a Stoppage in Land Stealing Is a step for peace" For as long as the IDF squats in Palestine, there will be no stoppage to land stealing by Israeli builders and settlers.
"Israel has taken a first step which must be followed by many more to prove integrity." The conquest and occupation of Poland did not prove Hitler's integrity. In fact, it spelled his doom; and his subsequent steps guaranteed his descent into the abyss. So be it for all warmongers, occupiers, and political rightists.
So you want peace (on the contrary to #13). but it is important for you to clarify to him that the well-being of Palestinians is, and should not be, of any concideration to you the PEACE MAKER! and to all those who oppose Bibi. I'll have you know that the Palestinians are not animals. they are humans who deserve to live on their land just like you do. and they deserve dignity and freedom and equality. not a bit less than Israelis do. i find you particularly offensive. even though you are calling for Peace, just like i do.
Please read your histort/ Jerusalem was the capitol of Israel before 1967. East Jerusalem was occupied by Jordan from 1948 to 1967 at which time it was liberated.
"But I am quite sure they would try hard to avoid deciding the principle." Whereas the High Court of Israel has already ruled that: 1) the West Bank is occupied territory; and 2) that Israel is the occupying power; it remains only to extend these same rulings to Gaza. The problem is not the court's reluctance to decide the issue. The problem is to get the case before the court to start with.
President Obama offered netanyahu DIRECT negotiations with the Palestinians if construction in East Jerusalem is halted for 4 months. netanyahu should accept, and instead of doing anything against his ideology he can simply freeze the activity of Jerusalem's district planning committee for 4 months, as is happening right now. This will have the added advantage for Netanyahu of treating East and West Jerusalem in exactly the same way, no new neighborhoods here, neither there. Seems ideologically "correct". If this lasts only 4 months, I don't see the big deal.
MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!
When it comes to Jerusalem, Israel.. its not our land. There are alot of us that support Israel! And when it comes to things going on around you. You gota do what you gota do..
Yes we will.I have said it in my post.We wait until it comes out. What is more on invitations of said persons? Were I PM Bibi I would never let them in even through the back door. We need them not.All they do is ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE.With frirnds like this who needs ENEMIES?
Pity about the gazelles.... Since when did arab developers get planning approval anyway?
Agreed with each and every single word written in your post.Wonder if you are one and the same as: EX IDF fellow?but I think not. Unlike him you feel bound to tell the truth and have done JUSTICE to the subject. If I may,BRAVO for the putting the real historical narrative that others tend to deny,or obfuscate BY LIES. Since you have done the subject justice it remains for me to bow out with satisfaction thanking you profusely. BH
your borders are the ones the UN agreed to in 1947-48...get your kosher butts back behind them
Israel has taken a first step which must be followed by many more to prove integrity.
Obama could never be biased towards the Palestinians. Obama's inner circle advisers are Jewish and believe me, they love Israel much more than you. I don't think you know better than his Jewish advisers. They are doing what's best for America, Israel and the Region and the Palestinians are last on their list.
And I, stand by my my president, and country, the great United states of Americs, no matter who the trouble makers are. The President is trying to do the job with America's interets first. This is his job and we are behind him and will serve our interests first, while we wish all of our allies prosperity, peace and success.
So far ONLY Haaretz is reporting construction has stopped. NO other news source that I have checked is reporting it. IF it is true negotiations on a peace settlement can begin and that will be a good thing.
In 1967 and again in 1973 Israel could have expelled the Palestinians (altough at that time they called themselves Arabs) and no one would have raised a voice to condemn the expulsion. In the 1968 Arab summit Egypt and Jordan gave up all claim to West bank and Gaza, not because they didn't want the territory but they wanted to claim Israel as occupiers and if they demended the territory back then it would be exchanging one occupier with another since neither Egypt or Jordan had legitimate claims to the territories. However, in 1948 Jerusalem was mostly populated by Jews and was conquered by the Jordan Legion and the Jews were expelled. In 1967 the Israelis recaptured Jerusalem in a defensive war thus liberating the city. Irrelevent to the rest of the West bank where it may be argued Israel is the occupier, Jerusalem is a liberated city that was Jewish before 1948 and returned to Israel in 1967. It was the Arabs that expelled the Jews in 1948 and tried to wipe out all signs of Jews
Israel & the Palestinians have been playing theatrics for a long time.... and it will continue. While the Palestinians are teaching their schoolchildren to hate Jews & to kill Jews, then want Israel to consider them a nation for future peaceful coexistance? Theater !!! While they're Building in East Jerusalem, the Israelis want to get back to the peace plan ? Theater !!! When the truth is put on the political table... there will be no "Peace Plan" under these theatrical conitions.
"israel is an occupier state without occupation of gaza.even though israel does not occupy gaza it does so in logios`s opinion because it uses gazan air space.though that is a reaction to gazan wars on israel the argument is irrelevant. though gaza has a border with egypt israel is still an occupier. in short the fantasy occupation is israel`s fault" - Multinamus I am afraid you are still confusing the issue. Occupation is a legal status. It is not related to "fault". An occupier could be justified, but the state of occupation requires that he abide by some international laws. Do you get the issue here? Now, countries usually have neighbors, and if they get occupied, they still have neighbors. Do you see why the existence of Egypt as neighbor is irrelevant? Me wonder Incidentally, occupation of the airspace and territorial waters preceded the Hamas take-over of Gaza. It is part of the occupation which was never relinquished. The state of occupation has a LEGAL reasoning. I only brought some obvious indications (which support the legal conclusion). I do not explain the legal reason to you because you do not have a legal mind. A legal mind requires precision, focus, and thoughtfulness. You don't have these qualities. My suggestion: Ask Johnboy to explain the issue to you, he has a good legal mind and likes to discuss such matters. But it is best for you to discover some area which you are really good at. And stick to it!
While Israel considers Gaza to be no longer occupied (since Sharon`s evacuation in 2005), the rest of the world, including the UN, still considers Gaza as occupied by Israel. To me it seems sensible, since Israel continues to occupy the Gaza airspace and territorial waters, and moves in and out of Gaza at will. By the Israeli Supreme Court did not yet rule on this question, and therefore the Israeli government and IDF can pretend to have Gaza the way they want it. If anybody is subject to deportation from Gaza, they can appeal to the Israel Supreme Court, which will stay the deportation until it decides. If the claim is that the West Bank and Gaza are one unit and under one occupation, the Court might have to address the question in principle. (But I am quite sure they would try hard to avoid deciding the principle.)
That's easy,Australia, New Zealand, The United States.....Maureen obviously doesn't know that Aborigines own the land she abuses Israel from.
Posted: "..You may think you need the USA but Jews need the Land more. Build Israel in all the Land. 200 years ago the US wasn`t much. What do you think Israel will look like in 200 years? Obey God and build Israel!" Israel can not build anyhting unless it gets the billions of dollars it gets from the USA each year. If not for this aid Israel would sieze to exist within months. If Israel keeps building and aid from the USA stops, there will not be an Israel to look at, not 200 years from now, but probably 2 years from now.
Hey Daisy, You must be too young 2 remember Chicago style politics. You are right about our interests first. Tell that 2 Obama and his gang, who could care less about what you and America thinks or needs.Go gently into that good night.
Dear Benjamin Netanyahu, Imagine Obama telling Adonai, I will deconstruct the very foundation of your Covenant. 1948 Statehood of Israel.1967 recapturing of Jerusalem. Did the 'One True God' of Israel ask Obama, for his advice on the Reconstruction Plan reestablishing the State of Israel, and Jerusalem as the International Capitol of the world. If you build it Elohim will come. Shalom!
The reality of the situation between israel & the palestinians depends on telling the truth to both sides. And there is a great deal of truth that is absent from the 2-state so called solution & president obama's vision of the new middle east ! The palestinians keep asking for the impossible that will remain impossible even if 2-state is imposed . There is no chance in hell, Israel will accept the return of the refugees, & obama's vision, now policy, is not telling that to the palestinians ! The same goes for east jerusalem as israel capital & israel right as a sovereign & independent state to be freely exercised & an iron cast agreement, that might include restrictions on any palestinian state; regarding israel's long term security. Any of these conditions is an essential part of a realistic peace between the palestinians & the jewish state. Only when this is clear, realpolitik will turn vision into realty. Obama's vision is a version on a theme that widen the gape!
It's not really about what is the 'internationally recognized capital of Israel", it's that Maureen and many others simply do not recognize Israel at all and in many subtle and not-so-subtle ways, insidiously act to de-legitimize it. So, Maureen, don't tell us about what is Israel's capital. That's not an assurance. It stands for a challenge to Israel's very existence.
Israel should do all it can in order to achieve peace It should do more to strenghten its ties with United States. More importantly. The ball should be dropped into the palestinian courtyard. It wont take time and Obama will realize that the palestinians are not prepared for reciprocity. Israel should do the maximum for peace, adn if it does not work, lets the palestinian be the rejectionist. They are experts on that. Peel 1936), Partition(1947) , Clinton (2000), Ulmart(2008) Palestinians are convinced that they have already conceded part of their territories.They are included within Israel pre 67 borders. Therefore they have nothing else to give. Negotiations for them are about setting a timetable for Israel withdrawal. They are wrong. They won't convience Obama or the International Community of their case. They win points in current times because of Bibi and Liberman. That's all.
Israel exists in a legal vaccuum. AMAZING!!
You are a beacon of hope for people of all faiths who share the decent moral and ethical values that bind civilized societies around the world. If you let the truth be your guide and justice your goal, peace will prevail.
As has been written in the US press, I also have serious questions about the intelligence of a presient more concerned with a Jew building a house in Jerusalem than with Iran building a nuclear weapon.
While the Americans are so busy telling us how to run our country, maybe we should cancel Independence day as a confidence-building measure. Obama will certainly appreciate this as a step to our recognizing that the USA controls this country, not the primitive Israelis who happen to live here.
Obama is today's FDR, Bibi is Rabbi Wise. This is not a compliment.
As I see it, he is a salesman, not a politician. A salesman who wants to sell an item starts with a hard bluff (not for sale) if he sees the customer really want the item (in order to get the highest possible price of course). A politician on the other hand who does not want to give in on a big issue gives something small first to his counterpart, so he is trusted and thus can stall and delay far better. A salesman in politics is a fatefull combination because politicians do not buy from or sell to eachother, they want to dominate eachother in the struggle for power. Hard bluff becomes dangerous in such a situation.
we need new leaders.
his brother yoni would not have acted in this supine manner.go home bibi let moshe arens take your place.
What incident with Biden?! It was an offense against him to build in our capital? Is this govt crazy?! Tell him and Obama to go to hell and start building like mad in every part of our country now!
the man thinks he is able to pressure us though he has been rebuffed everywhere. you will not succeed obama.though netanyahu has no backbone israel you will find is a different matter entirely.
A decade ago, Bibi was the tough-talking prime minister of Israel, refusing to make concessions to the Palestinians that would anger his supporters on the political right. But his blunders led to him being forced again and again to buckle under American pressure, and the result was that he conceded more than Rabin. Now, having learned nothing from his mistakes then, he has put himself into the position of having to freeze construction in Jerusalem - a heavy price for Israel to pay for his attempts to fool the US and avoid upsetting his coalition partners. Will he never learn?
...we need to "draw... lessons from the incident at the time of U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Israel" As government ministers need to get lessons about how (not)to receive the Vice President of the United States of America!
We don't care which of Israel's cities it wants to name as its capital. But we do expect it to choose a city which is inside Israel. At least America hasn't yet declared Baghdad as the U.S. capital.
Were tired of politicians who put Israel's interests ahead of our own.
Obama demands gestures and this is a very good one. Congrats Bibi.
Obama was not going to back down on this again. Because this was so drawn out, Netanyahu exposed his cards and his modus operandi as well. Obama now has a full picture of the battlefield he is facing with Netanyahu and he sees also that he can maintain American Jewish support even on the issue of Jerusalem. The prospects for peace are looking better. I imagine Netanyahu will think twice before getting out of line again. That's why he is afraid to come to the United States.
The thing to learn is don't invite Biden or Clinton to ISRAEL again. Its time to tell OBAMA HIS TALKS ARE DELUSIONAL and to stay out of the country. You may think you need the USA but Jews need the Land more. Build Israel in all the Land. 200 years ago the US wasn't much. What do you think Israel will look like in 200 years? Obey God and build Israel!
The American public supports the Jewish 1 state solution not the arab 1 state solution
Is a step for peace.
"Tel Aviv is the internationally recognized capital of Israel" Please tell me what other country in the world had the International community pick their capitol for them?
If they are in office in any party...vote them all out. All of them. The carwash boy could do better than this lot. US is only as good as it does..if its worthless then forget it. Its like a faithless woman..it may hurt but face it: faithless love is worthless.
theatrics.
Don't bow down to Obama BiBi.
whats he going to do?send in the navy?if the mayor does not have the backbone then i will do it.
...but with seemingly similar methods for finding a solution; and by that I refer to (a) Prime Minister Netanyahu and his "Jerusalem construction," and (b) Mayor Villaraigossa (here in Los Angeles) and his "city on the verge of going broke"...both of whom--faced with a number of really difficult parties to please--bounce back and forth between pillar and post, placating one and then another--cleverly hiding their end game (if they actually have one)--and arguably praying that the whole awful mess is just a temporary nightmare, caused by eating something they couldn't resist. (And--for the little it's worth--I wish them both luck.)
Tel Aviv is the internationally recognized capital of Israel! ; )
Palestinians leadership (if any) is not interested in any agreement because any permanent agreement with Jews for them it would be a political suiside.
Obama/Biden/Clinton must be stopped by American Zionists. Many, if not most Jews will place loyalty to HIM above Israel, so Christian Zionists must carry the burden.