Settlers push to evict two more East Jerusalem families

I have noticed it twice and it is this: You refer it thus: "Israel is MY home State"? How come,and exactly what do you mean by that?

Very true indeed.But the naysayers do no,want to hear this absolute truth. A pity really having to remind them exactly what occurred at the time and why the arabs fled? They did so at the behest of their brothers. Thinking the Arab armies were going to annihilate nascent Israel. That Israel will be vanquished and then these people will return in glory to the Holy Land. But hey,what they envisaged didn't happen. Israel faught 5+ armies and won the day. While those that fled are not accepted by the very brothers who encouraged them to flee,and are still living as refugees in Lebanon,Syria and elsewhere. The ones who stayed are now Arab/Israeli citizens having a peaceful,free and beneficial life. There you go...

They i.e The Arabs may have the oil(for now), But Israel has the brains that gives the world their knowledge in all fields they benefit from.You,me,and many more countries who are allways asking Israel to do business with. A pity? yes because you omitted in your post.

"ownership of the territories have been frozen by the armistice until the war starts again." An armistice only is where the military of enemies hold ground. It has nothing to do with ownership of territories. " by signing the armistice both sides understand this." Try reading the armistice agreements "so there can be no occupation only warfare to be continued" The UNSC says otherwise. UNSC res 242 left Israel OCCUPYING . "territories occupied" and not withdrawn from are, by LOGIC 'occupied'. The UN doesn't care who occupies as long as they abide by the GC's which of course DO apply, because the wars were between STATES. Read UNSC Res 242 carefully.

Non of the territory Israel has acquired by war was Sovereign Israeli territory. If it was already Israeli Sovereign territory, it would not be 'acquiring' it would be 'to restore the lawful sovereign'. http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y#JFNA

That your god "gave" them the only piece of real estate in the Middle East which has no oil! Was he unaware of the future value of oil? Maybe he hadn't thought it that far in advance, just like he obviously didn't give a lot of thought to the kind of people he "chose". And I am not talking about Jews, given that most Zionists are atheists and are therefor not really followers of that particular religion. Check your Bible, maybe he gave the land to the "seed" of Abraham, as in the descendants of Ishmael, his first born son, and had no intention of having it stolen by Eastern Europeans. THAT could explain a lot, don't you think? Can't figure out how he couldn't have foreseen that little "fly in the ointment". There is an interesting book which you should read, by Shlomo Sand.

Then give back the over 400 formerly Arabic named villages whose names changed to Hebrew after 1948. In addition, evict those Jewish Israelis from homes inside of Israel proper that once belonged to Palestinians who are now refugees since I assure you they have LEGAL DOCUMENTS as to ownership of that property.

thats the worst butcherimg of history I ever saw. I am sorry for you that you don't know the history of the area and the People who have dwelt there. SAD. Why don't you try reading or something

antisemitism is on increase beckose of the muslim hate of anything that is not Islam,they can't stand that the Jews are in the middle of them, it's in Quran to hate the Jews and the CHRISTIANS so think before you write anything.

do you understand or you have some mental problem" they where not kicked out they left on they own accord do to they leaders that inform them that after they will trow the Jews in to the sea in 1948 they can come back"so if they have something to complain they should go to the ones who told them to go before they attacked Israel in 1948 and lost!

If the settlers claim that this property belonged to Jews and that they have the right to evict Palestinians, then the Palestinians should have every right in the world to return to Israel and evict those who took over their homes back in 1948. The claims of the Palestinians have far more validity than the spurious claims of the settlers who are bound and determined to ethnically cleanse as many Palestinians as possible from Jerusalem. After all, many of the Palestinians not only have the keys to their former homes but also the deeds. Can the settlers say as much? Of course not. So much for Israeli "democracy."

Maybe you better check your history Palestine was destroyed years ago and the British renamed it.. it has always been Israel will alwsys be Israel and was named by God... jacob lead his people there and God gave him the land and name... shows you dont read or believe The Torah and The HOLY BIBLE as it tells you all you need to know... THE TRUE WORD OF GOD The only true living God

Where do you get the wild idea that Arabs own the land? Man youre really off base.. The land belongs to I srael always did .always will God gave the land to them in fact thats the only land God gave to anyone... whoever curses Israel will be cureswd so beware whoever tries to harm them and take their land... the Living God covers them and you can bet on it.....NO ARAB HAS THE LAND

Who is the United States to tell anyone what to do when they cant even care for their own? Do you know we gave Palestine 200.000 and what did they do? Hamas took it and have used it against Israel.. the Arabs seem so worried for the 'brothers' have them take them and leave Israel alone The land belongs to Israel and they dont give it up for anyone....

In essence, the Palestinians are making an arrogant assertion of entitlement to the fruits of the ethnic cleansing of Jews by a different Arab, Muslim nation. In '48, the general pattern was that Arabs that were tenant farmers, share croppers etc, fled at the orders of the Arab High Command, with the understanding that they would return with the victorious Arab armies and share in the looting of the Jews' land and properties. The Arabs that were, in fact, property owners,tended to stay and are the ancestors of today's Israeli-Arabs. Anyone can buy a rusty key at the Arabs shuk and tell fabulous stories however.

"James -whether Jewish or Italian or ?? Illegal is ILLEGAL!!!" Illegal for Jews to reclaim the property they owned by law, but not illegal for non-rent-paying Palestinians to have grabbed those properties in 1948? You have a very moronic view of what's "illegal."

Neighborhood? You mean ILLEGAL SETTLEMENT! Drop the euphemism, we don't buy it!

"didi prefers EVERYONE to look elsewhere" Yes, I do, because since everyone obsessively looks here (on a NON issue), not because there is anything to hide. There are simply so many more problems out there then 2 housing units in Jerusalem. It is simply rediculous! YOU would like the whole world to be only interested in our problems. Is this fair? Is this proportionate? Is it HELPFUL for the peace between us and the arabs? No! Get Real!

Our house is not falling apart. What you lack is to see things in proportion. In proportion, the Jerusalem issue is a NON-ISSUE. Many Israelis and surely internationals have lost ALL proportions. These international activists are WASTED here. They should invest their time in real conflicts. What I CAN see (and you don't) is that if you travel a bit around, you see things differently - in proportions. Today I was talking with my Rwandan friends, whose family was murdered exactly 16 years ago. When I research a bit about what the press was covering in April 94 in Israel and in Rwanda, and when I check the press of Jan 2009 (Gaza - SriLanka) then I blame the WORLD for being obsessed with us. As u are saying, this is OUR and the Pali's issue. The rest of the world is over-involved and you and your friends are complices of this crime. You lost proportions! I honestly tell you: I DONT care about the squatting Pali family, I CARE about my friends in Rwanda! Get real!

Jews who had been living there continuously for millenia? Its only a religion so it was OK is that it Maureen?

tjq: "what has that got to do with anything.the armistice lines are all.the fighting has stopped for the moment and may resume anytime.no occupation is possible.only armies advancing and retreating" If the armistice is merely a temporary cessation of hostilities (which it is) then: a) The cessation of hostility does not mean that what is currently being occupied by EITHER side is suddenly no longer "occupied territory" b) the restarting of hostilities does not give EITHER belligerent a "gold pass" to occupy further territory AND claim it isn't occupying that territory. The rules of war that pertain to occupation continue to apply, tjq, at all times, armistice or no armistice.

tjq: "ownership of the territories have been frozen by the armistice until the war starts again. " !!!! No, an armistice freezes the fighting, tjq, and does so without prejudice to any rights either party is claiming for itself. tjq: " by signing the armistice both sides understand this. so there can be no occupation only warfare to be continued." Since neither party has a "right of conquest" over the other then your argument is a nonsense.

aww, too bad. the non-rent paying arabs are being evicted from land owned by someone else. this is normal everywhere INCLUDING israel. since when do illegal squatters have any rights to land. and just to answer those who say they're not squatters...... the property owners have documentation proving ownership. it matters not how old the deed is. it's just as valid as Mashantucket Pequot tribe has to it's land illegally sold by the state of ct. in 1856. additionally, why couldn't this land belong to arabs? b/c if they registered the land ownership, it would be taxed by the ottomans. and as we all know, it's an affront against arabs to pay taxes. so, in conclusion, the arabs didn't didn't have a building permit b/c the land wasn't registered to them. it wasn't registered to them b/c they didn't own it. the landowners can do what they want with thier land, subject to zoning & other regulations. and, just as a reminder, it's a CAPITAL offense to sell land to a jew in jordan.

Posted: Jewrusalem for Jews." By the way the city of Jerusalem is not a Jewish, Hebrew, or an Israeli city. It is a Jesubite city that King David conquered and then kicked out the Jesubites who lived there, and made it the City of David.

But it's an old trick, played several times too many by people like didi. When you've got a clean house you can afford to worry about the houses of others that are not as clean. Since our house is falling down around our ears, it's only natural we'd pay attention to that before worrying about Sri Lanka. If didi can't see that, he or she probably doesn't live here.

Posted: "Israel has to adjust her measures according to backward mentality of the Arabs..in order to stay democratic and to protect her democracy, else the Arabs will abuse Israel*s democracy.." First of all Liza, you have no idea what Israel is like, you do not live here and you do not know what life is like here. Israel is far far away from being a democratic country. Israel's laws are religious laws that were used 5000+ years ago and never changed with the modern times like other laws were in other democratic countries. The laws in Israel are forced on Israelis by 10% of the far right fanatic religious parties, religious parties that blackmail politicians in order for them to form a government, so this is in no way a democracy. These laws impose on you, what you can and can not have, can or can not do, as well as dictate to you how you will live your life. This is typical of a backwarded country, not a democracy. This is why we don't have peace with the Palestinians.

"One arab at a time"???? = ethnic cleasning = genocide!!!!! I am surprised this does not bother both of you. Peace from Gaza City

Posted: "Jewrusalem For Jews." There is also another place where you can put all of the Jews who think like you do, its a place called Jewhinnom. For all of you who do not speak Hebrew the word for "Hell" in Hebrew is "Gehinnom". Which by the way is a term derived from a geographical site in Jerusalem.

Long before Jews in Palestine could defend themselves A religion is that your apologist reason for Jews not being allowed to have a state they have lived in continuously for millenia? So what are your rights in Australia foreign settler?

Play on. Your addmission is apt.Yes if it takes-- One arab at the time... So be it. Israel has no other choice. Survival is the name of the game.

They say the abused become the abusers. Today's Israeli Jews certainly prove the maxim.

great remarks! because you point to the problem: if it was ONLY haaretz that reports, fine. but fact is that every insignificant "fart" in Israel is overreported. Almost every other important event elswhere (specifically in poor countries) is criminally neglected. Simha, you GOT the point: massive reporting within Israel is normal. Massive reporting outside Israel (on such irrelevant issues) is OBSESSIVE. Obsession means that resources (space on newspapers, salary for reporters, public interest, etc.) are "wasted" on one conflict and not used in other - big - conflicts. And now start studying a bit: Check the amount of coverage of the Gaza war vs. the coverage of the SriLakan war in 2009. They took place in the same time. I did not see any outrage in Europe about the extermination of Tamil rebels and tens of thousands of deaths!

But do you not read the articles written on other world problems equally? They cover it all.Foreign as well as Israeli articles.What's your point Simha S?

Settlers are the terrorists that initiate and sustain violence. Settlers carry weapons while Palestinians are forbidden. Settlers attack and maim helpless shepards in the South Hebron hills. Settlers confiscate Palestinian homes whether in East Jerusalem, Hebron or elsewhere. Settler children physically attack Palestinian children and the elderly. Settlers represent the core of violence and greed. They do not represent any Judaic values. Settlers are the terrorists that threaten any Middle East peace. Netanyahu and Lieberman pander to the settlers and continue the violence.

I did not say it back in 1947, The JEWISH AGENCY said it and it is documented . According to J.A., in 1947 jews owned 6.8% SIX POINT EIGHT PERCENT, Jason, of the land of Palestine from the River to the Sea and you come to tell the world that between 1850and 1948 E.J. was jewish. Jews in 1850 owned close to NOTHING in Palestine. Please, people are not that naive any more.

...One Arab at a time.

"how much did your newspaper write about this insignificant conflict in the past year? How much did it dedicate to real conflicts?" Haarez is an Israeli newspaper. It is very understandable that they will cover issues in Jerualem more than Rwanda or Srilanka. Right? All newspapers in the universe will cover their local news more than international ones. duh!!!!

illegals Settlers create homeless people and terrorism wherever they go.. and tensions they cannot willingly learn to share. even if they place a border they will break it only few days later for the profit and greed. Whole concept is explained in these comments here.. Jews should settle every they claim and take half of middle east.. thats the core problem of whole issue it is "jewish greed" it creates suffering and terrorism for all

"A clear double standard of Israeli left and of course Palestinians. The documents prove that the property was Jewish owned prior to Arab intervention in 1948. The Palestinians who live there are the real settlers." The double standard is allowing these terrorists kick out the Palestinian families. This has been going on in all parts of Israel, and on Palestinian lands. But of course, most likely nothing will happen, because Israel protects these terrorists. By all rights, they should be dead right now.

East Jerusalem is in occupied territory. Ask the rest of the world if you don't believe me.

what weight to conquest wrote the following: a state acting in lawful exercise of the right of self defense may seize and occupy foreign land as long as such seizure and occupation are necessary to its self defense. this is of course a different matter to the discussion of armistice lines.

James, You left out an important condition. If you think outsiders should consider oppression of gentiles in Israel none of their business, you should certainly agree Israeli Jews should consider oppression of Jews in other countries none of THEIR business. Their country,not yours.

Your post:Will the Sephardic Community Society attempt to regain possession of properties owned by Jews in Girona or other Spanish towns and expropriated at or before the 1492 expulsion? Good question.I and my whole family can trace our antecedents among the Jews who did not become CONVERSOS and fled Spain. With all the recent subject on possession shouldn't Spain offer restitution to some of us who did not accept converssion,left all our goods and chattels. We did not bemoan our fate,but made our life in a productive way where ever we had settled. Shouldn't the Palestinians behave in the same manner?After all they were occupied by their own brothers without any complaints for quite a long time. Why are they now so bitter? The answer is:Because their attachement to each other and its "TRUE"implication/reason being:The belonging to one "LARGE GROUP" i.e Because all Arabs are ONE. I rest my case

jordanian entry onto the west bank and east jerusalem in 1948 was an unlawful invasion and aggression.the principle ex iniuria non oritur ius beclouded even jordan's limited status of belligerent occupier. her purported invasion was invalid on that account as well as because it violated the freezing provisions of the armistice lines. conversely israel's standing in east jerusalem after her lawful entry in the course of self defense certainly displaced jordanian unlawful possession

Can you imagine this happening in a civilized western country today? Sometimes I wonder if the Jew hated hitler not because of his beliefs but because they weren't included within those beliefs, indeed, they were seen as a global parasitic problem to be liquidated - but it seems that a lot of these extremist hold the same views as right wingers in the UK and Deutscheland

Firstly: Zionism=Judaism Secondly:We are a race, A People, A Country, And a religion. We have archeological evidence. The Pals have NONE We have had KINGS AND PROPHETS The pals had/have none of the above; i.e No Kings No precise language Not one artifact pertaining their antecedents. What is more Maureen,read the post I sent to Akram that tells you what came/comes out FROM THE HORSES MOUTH.The Pal/Muslims. We have known it.They know it too. Anyway,this is getting to be a boring subject. We Jews are here to stay,let the usurpers-(the Pals) go where they belong with the rest of the arabians mainly IN JORDAN. Had enough.

My grandparents owned a nice house in Katamoun (West Jerusalem) before they were forced to move to Shaikh Jarrah (East Jerusalem) in 1948. My father points it out everytime we pass by in the area (he was born in it). Can I claim it now? It is really nice old-style arab house. would love to move in. Does this mean that I can reclaim it? Unfortunately, my grandfather passed away in 2007!!!

their citizenship" what has that got to do with anything.the armistice lines are all.the fighting has stopped for the moment and may resume anytime.no occupation is possible.only armies advancing and retreating

It gets rather tiring to have to repeat the historical narrative to the ones who try and delve deeply in every nook and cranny about all of our history.Be it our religion, our country,our antecedents and who the blazes are they? Nothing but respondes here who decide to take the mantle of ARMCHAIR POLITICIANS. Good post,but will fall on DEAF EARS AS USUAL.

millions of Arabs forced from their homes or not allowed to return to them, live in far worse conditions for far longer in camps inside gaza and the occupied west Bank as well as in Lebanon, for no more simple reason than they are not Jews. Apart from which the eviction of the Gazans was not brutal. Not one person was even hurt and many were also put up temporarily in hotels.

TERRITORIES not BORDERS" HARD OF HEARING JOHNBOY? ownership of the territories have been frozen by the armistice until the war starts again. by signing the armistice both sides understand this. so there can be no occupation only warfare to be continued.

Keep to your end,we'll keep to ours. None of your damn business. You are neither an Israeli,nor an arab/pal. We will build wherever we like. You don't like it tough! Who made you the arbiter of the Pals? You merely try to prove the UNAPPROVABLE. My country,NOT YOURS. Now shove off you are THE BIGGEST BORE on these forums.

There is no East Jerusalem! Check your maps,there is no East or West Jerusalem, this is a new innovation- Jerusalem has been the capital city of Jews throughout history despite many occupiers of its land. Jerusalem is not negotiable!

As an Israeli Jew, I can say that this is absolutely disgusting. It's definitely an Apartheid all over again. There is no justification for such actions.

Any way you want to cut it this is very bad press for the jew State on a situation that has the keen interest of the international community. On may conclude that an image thought to have reached its nadir just cascaded to even lower depths.

When the Turkish authorities investigated, there was no evidence these properties were owned by Jews. Even if they were then, they could have been sold to other owners. It does not allow a claim by these settlers, probably from Brooklyn, to evict the current Palestinians, as they had been given de-facto ownership to replace their properties that were expropriated by Israelis in West Jerusalem. Most of Katamon and Bakaa in Jerusalem was Palestinian, as was much of West Jerusalem. Will all these properties and land be given back to their rightful owners? Will all the Palestinian refugees be allowed to claim back the 93% of Israel that was stolen from them? These evictions and any further demolitions must stop, the evicted families in Sheikh Jarrah returned to their homes and ALL settlers pulled out from East Jerusalem. Israel's presence there is illegal under international law!

Under Ottoman rule a lot of land belonged to the state. This passed to the British Mandate and then to the Israeli state. It's not that they rely on the Ottoman Land Registry; it's that this piece of land has changed hands legally since Ottoman times. Jordan allowed Arabs to live there after 1948, but ownership never changed, and after 1967 residents were asked to pay legal rent. Jerusalem had a Jewish majority from about 1850, until Jews were forced out by Jordan from 1948 to 1967. Legal ownership was never in doubt.

to colonize foreign territory... if you think that was painful... more, much more pain is coming.

i agree with the thing you said. i believe it is a crime and i against it. it is the same crime that was committed by many arabcountries (and iran) when they kick out jews of their homes, but telling that "_millions_ of Palestinian refugees kicked out of their homes" is a lie and lying never helping when you arguing.

If they are the legal owners of the property they are not settlers. If the courts recognise their ownership, again they cannot be called settlers. In 1948 Jordan occupied East Jerusalem, forcing the Jewish inhabitants into West Jerusalem. If they want their homes back, how can that make them settlers?

For the sole reason Jews are not Muslim 10,000 Gaza Jews were evicted from their land and homes. Forced into poverty for being Jews, many had to live in tents for a long time.

According to that logic of going back to pre- 48 owners, we should give all of those nice Arab homes in Baka and Katamon back to the Arabs. Not. I don't want to giver those goons the pleasure of being refered to as "settlers". I think that "thugs" describes them better. How can we allow this?

They are justified in evicting them for non-payment of rent and creating a disturbance.

So it is alright for the arabs to steal jewish land through war and occupation but it is not alright for jews to reclaim that stolen land. Misleading headlines perpetuate the myths of jews stealing arab lands. The headline should read "Jews reclaim lands stolen by Jordanian occupation"

... that I live on a former garbage dump.

whats your point we'll give you what was yours you give us what was ours

Today is the 16th commemoration day of the Rwandan Genocide against Tutsis. Up to 1 million were murdered by indoctrinated and brainwashed Hutus. This commemoration is utterly important and incredibly relevant to what is happening here. Explanation: 1. The world in 1994 was as always OBSESSED with the peace process (Gaza-Jericho was in May 1994). The world forgot Rwanda 2. The world today is OBSESSED with 2 Palli families living in rented property, yet the world totally forgets ALL other conflicts around. Proof: how much did your newspaper write about this insignificant conflict in the past year? How much did it dedicate to real conflicts? The obsessives should do 2 things: First, take anti obsessive drugs. Secondly, be aware that throughout recent history, their obsession with the Jews has stolen resources of newspapers to cover other conflicts (for example Rwanda in 1994 and SriLanka in Jan. 2009).

tjq: "johnboy there is an armistice line" Irrelevant to the question of wether the territory seized by the IDF via force of arms in 1967 became "Israeli-occupied territory". It did. tjq: "there is no border." Irrelevant: OCCUPATION is something that applies to TERRITORY, not to BORDERS. It is therefore immaterial wether the territory occupied by Israel is bounded by borders, by boundaries, by yellow tape or by chalk-marks scribbled on the pavement. tjq: "there is no occupation." Which you have "proved" by producing a list of irrelevant nonsense that "proved" nothing other than that you do not know what an "occupation" really is. tjq: "the jews have returned to jerusalem." Straw man. The illegality of their "return" relates to their CITIZENSHIP, and does not depend in the slightest on their ETHNICITY nor their RELIGION.

Settlers are undermining the standing of Israel in the Western World and in the Middle East. Instead of moving into confiscated Palestinian houses, they had better look for an honest job, serve in the army and pay taxes. At least they would be useful to Israel.

It certainly is not the first time Israel has employed forgery to assert its ownership claims. This has been done in the Old City of Jerusalem, Hebron and other sites. It has nothing to do with legality or former ownership. If that were the case, Israel as a democracy would have to owner far more recent titles of ownership for the thousands of properties in West Jerusalem that were taken by Israel and declared abandoned. Clearly, Israel sees international pressure building against it and it desperately needs to act, to establish demographic facts by claiming property and settling a Jewish population while the Arabs are driven out under this sham of legitimate ownership claim. These thugs, deep down, know they are fighting a lost battle, that EJ will be Palestine. Hence their desperation. What should be clear is that no fair minded person could possible ever live with this ilk.

Will the Sephardic Community Society attempt to regain possession of properties owned by Jews in Girona or other Spanish towns and expropriated at or before the 1492 expulsion?

The pathetic way you conflate Jews with Israel. There are JEWS who think Israel should end occupation and withdraw to it's own actual Sovereign territories. But you'll say anything to JUSTIFY the illegal acquisition of Palestinians territories, nothing is toooooooooo bizarre, like our PETER SM of Melbourne AUSTRALIA. we will do, as we wish,with our country" Good. Just bear in mind that the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem are NOT Israeli. Israel has never legaly annexed any territory.

Where were all those voices protesting the removal of the Jewish owners back in 1948? I must have missed that article that the UN passed a Res. to undo that wrong. You see how difficult finding reasonable solutions to bad situations are; you?re dammed if you do and dammed if you don?t. The properties are owned by Jews not Arabs; if the owner wants to improver his property does he have that right when there are Arab renters? This whole thing is nuts it just another Arab ploy to make Israel look bad.

There just doesn't seem to be a lower limit to the base, unethical and illegal behavior of the 'settlers.' It's an embarrassment to Jews worldwide for these brigands to displace families.

"Time has come for CJ to stop referring to his website that he constantly gives,for we know of it,and it is an Arab/Muslim biased one." It's Jewish. Biased towards being truthful. "Enough said" Nothing said actually. What Arab sources are cited on it? Any? "But the audacity of CJ is on land theft that he omits when he is reminded" Er I'm a 300 yr old Brit... WOW!! "Never give in Peter" How BIzZaRrE!!! PETER SM is in AUSTRALIA!!

how can criminals be encouraged to commit crimes? how can this government be so proud and allow such crimes to happen?

" When YOU leave Aboriginal land instead of telling others" Oh OK. PETER SM of Melbourne AUSTRALIA "Jews also purchased land from Arabs" Doesn't confir sovereignty of state. " Have you purchased your land Australian Aborigines?" Have YOU PETER SM of Melbourne AUSTRALIA "Jews have lived continuosly in Palestine " So what? So did other folk. "Your title to Australia being?" Why do you ask PETER SM of Melbourne AUSTRALIA "That gives you the right to preach to?" Israel is MY Homeland State. "Because you are a settler!" WOW PETER SM of Melbourne AUSTRALIA, What does that make you, PETER SM of Melbourne AUSTRALIA?

I would agree with you about paying for pogroms committed by "Arabs" as long as you levy the costs against "Arabs" who committed the crimes. If, however, it is a case of ALL "Arabs" paying for the crimes of SOME "Arabs", I assume you would agree to another country levying costs against all Jews for the crimes of some Jews.

Not justifying any actions, but nobody condemns thousand of Jewish families seized in arab countries throuout the last decades and centuries...they (Jews) have my support to get their property back. It's their right!

tjq: "johnboy there is an armistice line" Irrelevant as to wether the territory seized by the IDF via force of arms in 1967 became "Israeli-occupied territory". It did. tjq: "there is no border." Irrelevant: OCCUPATION is something that applies to TERRITORY, not to BORDERS. It is therefore immaterial wether the territory occupied by Israel is bounded by borders, by boundaries, by yellow tape or by chalk-marks scribbled on the pavement. tjq: "there is no occupation." Which you have "proved" by producing a list of irrelevant nonsense that "proved" nothing other than that you do not know what an "occupation" really is. tjq: "the jews have returned to jerusalem." Straw man. The illegality of their "return" relates to their CITIZENSHIP, and does not depend in the slightest on their ETHNICITY nor their RELIGION.

They are digging a hole for themselves blinded by their arrogance and racism. They cannot push their way into a viable future based on hatred and contempt for those whom they are driving out of their homes.

Why to compare yourself to the others...try to create your own values worth of democracy!

stealing more land!! jews need to be jailed permanently

Sir, Do you recognize private property rights? RoR of private property?

While settlers in Australia were going Aborigine hunting and feeding them ground glass in flower.Now you live off that while telling others what to do! Terra nullis?? Jews PURCHASED areas like Gush Etzion etc etc You have a hide to tell Jews who have a continuous tie to the area.In case you have not noticed Al Aqsa was built over the Temple not the other way around Go home hypocrit.!

We can leave Australia together. Indeed, it seems that it is a very good idea for British and westerns to abandon Australia and North America as well. Why not? In that case, Jews in Israel might be reconsidering their case. Yet the differences are clear. Jews are natives in the region, while British are just colonizers, robbers and slavers. Ughhhh what an ugly thing.... Come on CJ...start moving....you have a place in the jewish state. There you will become a "native" rather than a colonizer.

Time has come for CJ to stop referring to his website that he constantly gives,for we know of it,and it is an Arab/Muslim biased one. Enough said. But the audacity of CJ is on land theft that he omits when he is reminded. Never give in Peter,and know you will not,thank the LORD OUR G*D of ISRAEL. BARUCH HASHEM

the jewish quareter..no need for further elaboration.

As you say:i.e Therefore, why single Israel, a liberal democracy, and expect it to act in differently towards different segments of its population...?? Is the reason of this double standard towards Israel is because it is the nation-state of the Jewish people...?? Yes and many cannot come to terms with our existence finding loop holes to subvert it at all times. I for one do not care what the Intl' community wants or demands from us the IMPOSSIBLE that we will never surrender to their WISHES EVER. Let them look elsewhere were the people suffer and not a peep out of them. We are here,in our country,for ever,we will do, as we wish,with our country,and not accept outside,bullying. Free and REAL ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM FOR EVER. AM YISRAEL CHAI!!!!!!!!!!

Can't see it can you? Jews also purchased land from Arabs Have you purchased your land Australian Aborigines? Jews have lived continuosly in Palestine for millenia long before the Arab invaders.Your title to Australia being? That gives you the right to preach to? Because you are a settler!

there is no border.there is no occupation.the jews have returned to jerusalem.

Arguing that line entirely misrepresents where the illegality lies... 1) East Jerusalem is occupied territory. 2) The occupying power is Israel. 3) Int`l law forbids an occupier from colonizing occupied territory. Therefore, FOR AS LONG AS Israel is the occupying power then it can not allow any Israeli citizen (Jew or Arab) to transfer INTO occupied territory, even if that citizen has legal title to the property. NOTE: that is not to deny the legality of those property rights i.e. such rights will legally survive this occupation just as they legally survived the 1949-67 Jordanian occupation. But WHILE this occupation exists then these Israelis (Jew or Arab is immaterial) must be held at bay, because otherwise Israel is in violation of Article 49 of GCIV. The only LEGAL solution: Israel needs to end the occupation, because then these Israelis (Jews or Arab, it makes no difference) are free to take their case to court. But not BEFORE the occupation ends, no.

Hmmmmmmm....shouldn't that apply to the Palestinians who were terrorized out of their homes ?

For we Jews are not just a religion. We are a people,a Country,and a religion all rolled into one. If we were not a country,then how come we had KINGS throughout our history plus Zionism. And some more for them:The Secret All the Arabs Know One of those peoples has a clear identity ?? the Jewish People. Yet it would be interesting to know the identity of that second people: Already in 1977, one of the central spokesman of that "second people", a member of P.L.O. leadership, Zahir Muhsein, the leader of the al-Sa'iqa Organization, revealed the truth in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

...Maybe the settler -minded ones can choose to settle on Mars! They can convince the rovers that they were promised that planet first :)

I did not write a word as to the race. You want the jewish nation (only for the jews).All the others are somehow "exluded" -even by your national anthem and there is no constitution which guaranteed the equal rights for all citizens of Israel.

Writing the truth about our country that should have the freedom to build where ever it needs for its citizens. Some of the people call the Jews settlers their misconception they forget is: That we are all settlers i.e according to the surroonding Arab countries we are not supposed to be here,and treat us all SETTLERS. Well,tough on them.Our country and we will not be bullied by anyone. God bless you Father Emanuel

1, His supervisor was on a Passover vacation, so why work hard? 2. In preparation for Passover, Slowman dunked his computer terminal in boiling water to kasher it, after which it only functioned intermittently. 3. Slowman doesn't like matza, he was starving and had to gorge on more posts than usual. 4. How was that time different from any other time?

Is that like the one about there not being any such people as 'p'alestinians, SAY!!! We can leave Australia together,PETER SM of MELBOURNE Australia. And when we do, Israel will then return the 50% of the Palestinians territories it has illegally acquired since may 14th 1948, that's right. Isn't it PETER SM of MELBOURNE Australia!

Why should they not deny for their brothers.? Taqiya,don't you know? No Jews ethnic cleansed from the old city Jewish quarter etc in 1948??

when it comes to Armenian issue, nobody takes care of Ottoman documents which clearly show that there is no sign of massacre. But when it comes to invade a land people do not hesitate to use them as an evidence.... Unbelievable...

PETER SM of MELBOURNE Australia, will you be joining Maureen? Paying compensation to the murdered natives, before you move out PETER SM of MELBOURNE Australia? Is this just a stupid argument trying to justify what Israel has been doing, PETER SM of MELBOURNE Australia? "Jews were in Jerusalem for thousands of years, long before Arab invaders or their apologists" That's right, PETER SM of MELBOURNE Australia. And we conquered someone who was there before us, real butt kickers eh.. I don't believe there was ever a time when we were a majority in the area though. Ruling class maybe, perhaps more brutal, but not a majority. Didn't some paranoid temple and empire builder have a whole mess of children murdered just so's he could stay in power.. Sheeeeeesh such relatives I have... Family reunions would have been fun with him.

...pretty hard to have it on both.

1)One can question whether colonizing the West Bank is for the benefit of Israel. 2)A different issue is whether jews have the right to settle in the west bank and whether Israel is under the frame of legality in letting jews settle in the West bank. The first answer, is that Israel does not benefit from colonizing the west bank. The second answer is that depsite the SC condemnation of Israel's settlers there are no sanctions against Israel. Veto in the S C. is part of the law. If there are no sanctions then the law is irrelevant. Israel is not forcing population to settle in the West Bank and jews are not settling in lands conquered from another state. THE PALESTINIAN NON STATE ENTITY = NOTHING. Palestinians have no rights, have no sovereignty, and will not have without bilateral negotiations. They could have rights by accepting partition. They rejected and launched a criminal war against the newly state of Israel. As a result they have lost their potential rights.

check the speech and read for yourself cj.he said and meant that israel would remain the capital of israel.undivided and united.that is what the man said.june 4th aipac meeting 2008. google for the transcript of the speech and it is also on youtube.

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided. " A shared capital perhaps.... He didn't elaborate on how it would remain un-divided. Not that has been undivided since Jewish forces divided it in 1948.

"Judaism is a religion not race" M.A Tell that to the world that embraced anti-Semitism and sent Jews to the ovens ! There is more than Hitler Germany to prove you wrong ! All that you need is to be right yourself !

Lawyers for the embattled Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah had for years tried to access the Ottoman Archives in Ankara to check the validity of the claims of the settlers, but were denied this because Turkey did not want to upset Israel. After Israel's brutal operation in Gaza in January 2009 relations soured and the lawyers of the Palestinian residents of Sheikh Jarrah were granted access to the Ottoman Archives. No record was found of the Sephardic Community Committee's 1875 ownership registration. The directorate of the Turkish Lands Registry Archive issued an official letter to this extent. It is very likely that the settlers' ownership document is a forgery. This would not be the first time that settlers have used forgeries as title deeds. The Magistrate Court in Jerusalem however has rejected the appeals of the Palestinian owners in light of the new evidence coming from the Ottoman Archives.

the animosity to jews in europe has reached a new zenith.it is almost universal in all the quality newspapers. while many in israel turn on their own brethren in their rush to prove the brotherhood of man. europeans say "jews can never be our brothers."

Jews who left Palestine two thousand years ago are long dead! How come you are squatting in Aboriginal Australia - lose your way after two thousand years, Peter? There is no parallel between Zionists and Australian Aborigines. How many Aborigines would willingly exchange places with Arab Palestinians living under Zionist Israel occupation, today 2010? Various rulers occupied Jerusalem long before White Settlement in Australia. Australian Aborigines are unique in that they had innocently lived in this land for forty thousand years independent of European occupation prior to the British, Terra Nullius BS. Zionists tried the same BS Terra Nullius in Palestine in the 20th Century! Zio-neocons are still trying on Terra Nullius BS re the Palestinian territories!(Reference: Noah Pollak. Commentary Magazine 2009) Two thousand years ago, Jews up and left Palestine... Neo Zionists rule Palestine today only because of the actions of collective European imperialist invaders.

"how thankful we are to those who built on jewish land" thirteen million jews the world over now have an option and may come here when they choose.we will not turn them away. there will be no more voyages of the damned. jews leaving europe after the most terrible treatment.going begging on ships for somewhere to land and being kept waiting in the ports of numerous nations.begging for a chance to live. HIS help has meant that is all behind us.

esther dear language like "obama does not want to be asscoiated with us" puts you in a difficult spot.readers ask what does esther think obama is?

What I think is "unsettling" (pun intended) is that many of the most vile settlers are from the U.S. Whole congregations move here to "fight" for what they think is right. They probably all still have US citizenship, just in case... Really? Do they really want to focus their whole beautiful, god-given lives to militancy and hatred? Would god really approve?

you can give back half the Southern US to the Mexicans. What about the American Indians and the land you stole from them... Are you going to give it back to them as well.

too bad about refusing to recognise borders for 60+ years isnt it? When can a million Jews have their properties back from the Arabs?

Enough is enough! The Jews are back HOME! Keep building Israel! Time to put an end to the Arab occupation of the JEWISH land.

belongs to Israel. We can prove it but you will have hard time accepting it...

Gaddaffi*s son is said to have been physically violent to his servants in Switzerland. Such violent mistreatment of other persons indeed *is* illegal and punishable in all civilized, democratic countries. Maybe not in the country you live in? Therefore you see the disciplinary actions taken against Gaddaffi*s son for his violence as "mistreatment of Arabs". Do you take violence toward one*s servants (and others) for granted and non-punishable in your country?

so. Israel, being a liberal democratic state, operates based on laws and all citizens and residents of the state are equal before the law. If the court decide the Arabs can stay, they will. And if the courts decide the Arabs must vacate the premises, they will do so. This is the standard in any law abiding country and society, as it is in Israel. Therefore, why single Israel, a liberal democracy, and expect it to act in differently towards different segments of its population...?? Is the reason of this double standard towards Israel is because it is the nation-state of the Jewish people...??

to show how Arabs own that land. Where are they?

it costs nothing to pick on israel.like the bullied boy at school who is kicked in passing and the action elicits a laugh from all around. "he deserved it" they snigger. well 63 years later we are still here and with HIS blessings we will always be.

Israel has to adjust her measures according to backward mentality of the Arabs she is surrounded by and use the language they understand in order to stay democratic and to protect her democracy, else the Arabs will abuse Israel*s democracy they have no respect for and then democracy risks to become an underdog. How do you think the Arabs treat people in their societies? Democratically?

esther best for you to read the original speech from where obama's words are taken.that is conclusive enough. check the speech.aipac 4th june 2008. and obama did not deny he said those words.but you do.more catholic then whatever.

yes anne we are a pure nation jews from morroco india ethiopia europe nepal and our naval commander is chinese.a really pure race.

so anne you have given us a ready made excuse.we are depraved on acount of we are deprived.we are ten years or maybe twenty years behind modern thinking. that anne is our excuse.

"so called western democracy." anne tells us we should behave better because we are a "so called western democracy".so ann if we are only "so called democracy"why should we behave better?

It worked smoothly up untill the Biden snub, now it is impossible.

israel builds jewish housing in sheikh jarrah. obama goes into mourning and europe declares itself deeply appalled.turkey makes antisemitic attaacks and the muslim nations have forgotten all their myriad troubles. iran curses us and syria joins in.saudi takes time off from the witchcraft trial(the man is to be beheaded) and jordan tells us we are just terrible.

Can Christian and Muslim Palestinians who lost their houses in West Jerusalem, Beer Sheva, Yaffo, Haifa... in 1948 get them back too?

These fanatics endanger Israel. Their crazy actions, which include worshipping murderer Baruch Goldstein right in front of TV cameras and evicting children from their home into the night, give a disastrous image of Israel all over the world. They need to be evicted from Jerusalem entirely.

... as an UNDIVIDED city, the capital of two nations: Israel and Palestine... ... twisting Obama's meaning, to justify settler daylight-robbery, is totally unacceptable...

Honestly.

with us" that brings a smile to our faces.remember tevye and his thoughts about the tsar to the effect "keep him well and keep him far away from us" esther there is no one whose association i seek less.israel is not his favourite nation and he is not our favourite.

People surely are not watching only you. Just read some other newspapers than Israeli ones -or look at the foreign tv-channels, too. Why you are watched more carefully? Maybe because, it is so hard to understand that so called westernlike,democratic country is behaving like that. One very experienced and highly appreciated diplomat said that in many things Israeli politics are ten or 20 years behind of the modern kind of thinking. The nationalism ( f.e the nations of only "pure" people) is so outdated and proved to be disastrous so often - in Europe lately in Serbia.

there should be.

Arabs who lost property in Israel are eligible to file for compensation from Israel?s Custodian of Absentee Property.

obama destroys housing in khandahar afghanistan

When are they going home as they have no connection to Bathurst,other than the laughable "Terra Nullis" proclaimed by the settlers. Jews were in Jerusalem for thousands of years, long before Arab invaders or their apologists. PS dont forget to pay compensation to the murderted natives just as the Arabs should for their pogroms against equally defenceless Jews.

do as we say not as we do. just as well we understand europe.they travel to iraq and afghanistan and kill muslims while we defend pirselves at the gates of the jewish homeland.

to the extent that gadaffhi of libya has instituted a boycott of switzerland

It seems that the laws are not the same for everybody -but it is the race, religion or your origin that decide how the law is interpreted. What a messy place the world would be if these kinds of documents would be used to prove your ownership for the land, city or properties.

obama said the following: "jerusalem will remain the capital of israel and will remain undivided" he has travelled a long way since then.starting with a deep bow tp the king of saudi arabia.

Dharfur? Sierra Leone?

so why all the chest beating and the wailing.

with HIS blessings there are three hundred thousand jews in judea and samaria.and with HIS blessings may they increase to half a million soon.

the whole world is watching us. sure we know that.we are more interesting then the five million killed in the congo in the last ten years.and who the world so carelessly ignores.it is jewish housing that is important.burma and dharfur and sierra leone and iraq and pakistan and afghanistan.well jewish housing is more important then all those problems.

and preaches to us on the net. 1 you do not allow muslims to build mosques. 2 the swiss hate muslims in switzerland. 3 they harass libyans because they are arab. one more thing obama has no influence here in israel.we will build and build in jerusalem. re orwell his real name was blair.and he was not overly fond of jews.like you in fact.

the land was jewish one century ago.and what is that to us.property cannot be given up unless sold.the land in sheikh jarrah is still jewish land.

... can we wonder that Obama does not want to be personally associated with us...?

and also quite rightly claim jerusalem land from the ottoman era.the latter was a century ago while the european property dates seventy five years ago.

B: "The documents prove that the property was Jewish owned prior to Arab intervention in 1948. The Palestinians who live there are the real settlers. " A pointless argument, because: 1) East Jerusalem is occupied territory. 2) The occupying power is Israel. 3) Int'l law forbits an occupier from colonizing occupied territory. The conclusion: FOR AS LONG AS Israel is the occupying power then it can not LEGALLY allow Israeli citizens to exercise any property rights they possess inside occupied territory. NOTE: that is not to deny the legality of those property rights (such rights will legally survive this occupation just as they survived the 1949-67 Jordanian occupation). But WHILE this occupation exists then these Israeli Jews must be held at bay, because otherwise Israel is in violation of Article 49 of GCIV. The only LEGAL solution is obvious i.e. Israel needs to end the occupation, and then these Israeli Jews are free to take their case to court.

....of the ME Quartet will watch very carefully this time. There is now an "Orwellian eye" above the skies of the Holy Land.... ....and every little secret and eventual misbehaviour will immediately be discovered !!:)

For Jews.

How is it theft when Israel AGREED under the 1950 armistice? Israel also forbade folk travel to hostile entities (from '48...the law is still in place). Israel prevented RoR for Jewish folk. Now it illegally settles them, illegally annexes. Was it ever Sovereign Israeli territory?

How about organizing the original owners of Jaffa, Haifa beer-sheva and tiberia for example? Their claims are just as good, is'nt it?

It is Jews of conscience like yourself that will ultimately make a difference and change Israel for the better.

"That is the law in every country, not just in Israel" It's just not in Israel.

according to some documents Granada in Spain belonged to some Muslims, so let's expel the Christians and put 40 million Arab settlers in Spain. Wait a minute! Before the Arabs were German Barbarians, and before the Romans! Berlusconi, come in!

Because as you know, Tel Aviv sits on the ruins of Arab villages that you "stole" from them.

You must not know any history or ever read a paper, because everyone (including our left-wing Supreme Court) knows that Jews own that land. Even this left-wing paper states that "Ottoman-era documents... indicate the land on which the contested properties sit belonged to Jews" and that "the properties' original owners - the Sephardic Community Committee - granted Nahalat Shimon, an organization representing the settlers, power of attorney to administer the properties". Of that there is no debate. Just because the Arabs ethnically cleansed the Jews and stole their land doesn't make it the Arabs'.

... because in Ottoman times so much of the land that Israel now occupies did not belong to Jews at all...

Maybe! But where are the Jews who owned the land? Just because someone of a specific religion once possibly owned the land doesn't confer ownership to just any person of the same religion that wants it. These families are living there and unless the "owners" or their decendants can lay a legal claim to it the present occupants should be left alone. After all there are many properties in Israel where ownership by Arabs can actually be proved. Would you like to see thousands of Israelis displaced?

What is rightfully theirs? Thats part of the big lie and you know it. They are stealing arab property and arab land using the so called Israeli justice system to hide behind. The court is a farce as is their claims. They will not get to enjoy the spoils of their crime and soon Palestine will be handed back to the Palestinians with Jerusalem as their capital.

Suppose Palestinians could present papers from the Ottoman era proving that they once owned real estate now owned by Jews. Would that be enough to start an eviction against those Jews?

So according to the logic of the settlers, the Jews who are living in Arab homes in Jaffo should also be kicked out? how on earth will there be peace with this kind of "loving your neighbour"

Don't you mean Eastern European blood? BTW, what would they do to land thieves in Brazil? Of course, who can argue with a claim, made by Jews, written in a Jewish holy book, by other Jews, which "evicted" the owners of said land on the orders of their "invisible real estate agent". Not me!

This is not representative of the Jewish nation only of f few settler thugs who do not look to peace, but rather make war. Their behavour disgusts me as a Jew and an Israeli.

such news makes me feel embarrased to be Jewish. Do we never learn, doing to others the awful thing that were done to us. how will this ever become a united country with this way of being. How can you expect peace with our neighbours if you are such warmongers.

I am neither Israeli left nor right but I know how to use my brain. We want Jerusalem to be our eternal and undivided capital but we are still remaining with our nasty attitudes, when the world?s decided that that?s simply abhorrent. If we want Jerusalem to be our eternal and undivided capital then we should treat all Jerusalem citizens, regardless of religion or ethnicity equally. Do we think that HaShem please with us each time we chase Arab Palestinians out of their homeland and make them become refugees? I wish to slap those faces who say that HaShem ask them to chase Palestinians out of their homeland, regardless they are rabbi or ?super? rabbi. When are we going to change for HaShem to assist us to rebuild our third temple (Temple Mount)? Hello friends, for us to be worthy for the third temple to be rebuild is not only we make teshuva by return to HaSHem and the ways of His Torah. We also have to treat others with love, compassion, justice and respect their rights.

then or Palestinian/Arabs who lived under the British Mandate.

Can all the Arabs who were forced out of their homes and lands in Yaffa, Haifa, Deir Yassine, bir seba, etc...evict the Jewish inhabitants whotook their properties after 1948 if they show their Ottoman era ownership documents or is it only a one way street in "the only democracy in the middle east" ?

palestinians who were forced out of their homes can request from your court of JUSTICE to reinstate them in their property in the heart of Tel Abib and Haifa. What do you thing? Also, they should ask the court to evect settlements in the west bank areas since the land does, in fact, belong to palestinians. For fairness, everyone should get their land back..How about a bi-nation for both people where each can get back his/her property to live in. You can't have it your way only/

'Palestinians' are in fact a mixed clan of Arabs, some having lived under the British Mandate, others Arab labourers from South Kuwait that the British brought over into their Mandate in 1922, and yet others Arabs from anywhere who joined the group of Homeless Refugees being cared for by UNRWA after the 1948 Arab'Israeli War......

Deeds exist that show that in today's Palestinian neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, over 100 years ago some Jew held property there. The demand to move Jews in based on this "right of return" only justifies and rationalizes Palestinian demands for a "right of return." Do not Palestinians have deeds to their former properties in towns and cities that are now Jewish? Demanding a right of return for Jedws while denying it to Palestinians is hypocritical and morally unjustifiable. Boruch, you and your ideological fellow-travellers are unwittingly undermining Israel!

"...Upon returning to live in Israel in 2003, Hershkovits disbanded the movement to avoid harassment by the Israeli government, advising its former members to support the Kahane Movement. After the organization had disbanded, its name was also added to the United States' list of terrorist organizations as an alias for "Kach". Hershkovits was arrested on August 7, 2005 and placed in administrative detention for three months by Israeli authorities. Today the United States continues to designate the group a terrorist organization... In the 2003 elections former Kach leader Baruch Marzel ran as number two on the Herut ? The National Movement party list... In 2004 he founded the Jewish National Front, which gained 24,824 votes (0.7%) in the 2006 elections, less than half needed to win a seat. Michael Ben-Ari, elected to the Knesset in 2009 on the Ihud Haleumi list, where he represents Eretz Yisrael Shelanu, is a self-declared follower of Rabbi Kahane..."

were safely housed elsewhere. They have their own homes in a sovereign state that calls itself cultured and democratic and that goes by the name of Israel. The Sephardic Community Committee to whom that land belonged 100 years ago now possesses its own institutions and properties within that state and certainly does not "need" to turf people with nothing out of homes awarded to them by international institutions in the wake of their disenfranchisement by Israel. Instead of our country's leaders pointing to Jewish laws that preclude behavior like this - laws that members of the Sephardic Community Committee were, like the rest of us Jews, raised on - we have a situation that permits members of a banned organization to act as flashpoints in Jerusalem, Israel's very much divided capital, aided and abetted by "security" forces created to protect us AGAINST members of banned organizations like those of the Kahanists.

"Jewish owned", so what? How about an actual person's name? Otherwise, it's just cowpatties. You can not claim ownership of something because a previous owner was "like" you. Has to BE you. BIG difference there.

The question of evictions has already been settled by the courts: protected tenant status leave non-payment of rent or willful damaging of the property by the tenant as the only causes for eviction. Kach, the Kahane "movement" has been outlawed since the 1980s as a hate group, why is the lawyer bringing this up at all? If he has proof, let him present it to the police so they can be arrested. If "regularly disturbing and/or bothering and/or threatening their neighbors" is a criteria for eviction, then the Jewish "activists" should also be evicted. Again, if anyone is threatening a neighbor, go to the police with evidence, don't make unsubstantiated claims that hold no proof.

jews in fact did purchase much land in what was then, Ottoman controlled Palestine, and when the economy of the area began to improve (due to Jewish efforts), many arabs moved into the area from other areas of the caliphate. Many of those arab families now claim to have been on the land for centuries-didn't happen. Also, Jews have been continually in Hebron since around the first millennia AD..so what happened to their claim in the 1920's? Or the Hurva synagogue originally built in 1700's and rebuilt in 1864? To leftists, marxists, and arabs all of these FACTS are meaningless.

you get evicted. That is the law in every country, not just in Israel.

If i understand your article correcty we also have the right to go back to Biram, where arab-Israeli have lived for decades and were kick out in 1948 on the promise that in 15 days they could return, well 60 years have passed and still we are waiting to return, and why not? we are Israeli also. equal rights, right???

If Israel had a real justice system then claiming houses based on old or discredited deeds would net Palestinians far more Jewish occupied houses than vice versa. Trouble is it's not a justice system; it is an institutionalised system of supremicism.

this is not right. all these religious haredi do is cause the rest of us greif. tired of hearing about this story. make these haredi get jobs and pay taxes. make them conform to the law and STOP causing us, the real people, in Israel greif. now. jerusalem is OUR capitol and we should build in it. we should NOT evict people. not right. it is wrong.

of those millions of Pal refugees each one can do the same, but they will be held accountable for the crimes they committed against the Jews and because of which they ran away to avoid prosecution.

Those families sold their property and were paid.so they should have left by themselves.instead of waiting till the media were there to record their disgrace.

Please - NOT in the name of the Jews - these acts are purely the larceny of the ? Zionist Settlers? who are not real Jews of the Bible. Please do not connect your acts of theft to the good Jews on this planet.

One, this is another Israeli who wants peace writing. Pushing for the same rights for the Arab refugees who were housed in Sheikh Jarrah will not help. The point is that as this article (at last) specifies, the settlers who have made them refugees in our country for the THIRD time are Kahanists. The real question is how the courts of our country and our government can accept the notion of permitting people who ALREADY HAVE homes and are squatting there on a kind of rota expressly to throw people with no other home but the one they have been living in since the last time they were displaced, along with the all their worldly belongings, onto the sidewalks of Jerusalem hours after a judgment has been made. All this with police assistance. The Jews to whom these properties were awarded are not related to the families who lived there one hundred years ago. This government is embarrassing its citizens by permitting a situation like this to further sully our country's reputation.

What about our houses in West Jerusalem, they all belong to us the Palestinians before 1948 !! and years ago before the World War I....

No, Zionists, or at least many of them, were not more honest in 1948. They tried to spread the myth that "Israel is a land without people for people without land". They essentially tried and continue to try to wipe out the Palestinian identity, so they can have "legitimate" claim to the land of the Palestinians.

Indications of race are nothing

These people are really endearing themselves to the public. Let's say for a moment that they are right and the land in question did at one time belong to certain individual Jews,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so what! It did not belong to THESE Jews. This is plain robbery. Even if the land had belonged to Jews at one time, the fact that the present occupants occupied the land adversely or otherwise openly and notoriously for over 10 years confers ownership on them. The Jews can buy it if they want it so badly. Make them a money offer that they cannot refuse.

The US should immediately stop all aid to Israel, recall our ambassador and cease to do any business with it until it comes to its senses. The world is watching this and has become very impatient. This cannot go on, or, if it does, the Zionist "project" is doomed. Nemesis awaits.

the illegal squatters run the country...alas only for 1 more generation...then squatters become compost

However since there is no mention of a Jewish State in the League of Nations Mandate over Palestine, going back to Ottoman Rule will negate the 'jewish state' so next the Arabs will produce their deeds of ownership. That's why we have Int. Law.

all you have to do is go on Youtube to see that it's the settlers who are "regularly disturbing and/or bothering and/or threatening their neighbours". Arabs are Semitic, European Jews are not, Anti Semitism is alive and well in Israel.

Jews are reclaiming what is theirs- by right. This shouldn't beheadline news. It's a simple fact of life that justice be done. It has nothing to do with Kahane. It has to do with theft and restitution.

Typical settlers like the rest of Israelis.

Do you think the Ottoman Jews who owned this land would want it given to Racist hicks like these settlers? I doubt it

A clear double standard of Israeli left and of course Palestinians. The documents prove that the property was Jewish owned prior to Arab intervention in 1948. The Palestinians who live there are the real settlers.

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right of return should be for pals too in that case

They are listed on the Terrorist watch list. Why arent these people being rounded up and sent to Gitmo along with the other Terrorists? Why? Because they are protected by Israel thats why.

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How is their claim to the land different than any Palestinian's house deed? It's hypocritical, and wrong. Israel and Palestine should both exist side-by-side, in peace.

what about Christian and Muslim Palestinian land owners whose lands were confiscated in 1948? does the same laws apply to them or they are from the wrong religion?

Israel has decided to pursue the idea that Ottoman era land claims shall be recognized. How many Palestinians may make claims upon land in Israel which was confiscated by Israel following abandonment in 1948? A very sizable portion of Israel could be easily questioned under the principle which Israel has embraced. If a Jewish claim - and the few Ottoman era Jews owned even less of the land - then Arab claims upon property seized following the War of Independence are equally valid. This is typical of the lunacy that Israel has become subservient to. If a 100 year old claim to land is valid for Jews, then how long can a 100 year old claim to land by an Arab be denied? The legal principle is simple. It is also know as a colloquial statement 'what is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.' The legal ruling which say that Ottoman era ownership extends past the Israeli War of Independence only for Jews is either false because it does not equally apply to Arabs, or is insane.

Israel is going downhill.

Then jordan destroyed everything jewish from 48 to 67 and that supposedly became the line which was really just an armistace and was left as disputed areas but now PA says they get the whole old city including jewish quarter when the jordanians raped the jewish quarter and they riot over renovations of the jewish quarter because nothing jewish can face temple mount. The left are flexing their muscles.

The Land is in Jerusalem,a Jewish City for more than 3000years.It was purchazed again from the Ottomans,paid in hard currency...It was again purchased in 1967 and paid in JEWISH BLOOD...The so called arab "protected tennants" did not pay the rent...EVEN IN BRAZIL THEY WOULD BE EVICTED...

Despite what Gideon Levy believes, Israeli society HAS a left, and these people need to begin standing up for what they believe in. They need to stop allowing their extremist compatriots dictate how the state is run, and protest their government's compliance with the fanatics who believe they can somehow make Sheikh Jarrah a Jewish neighborhood in any just manner.

One of the families was moved when Olmert was PM. This is a court related matter so to blame the govt is wrong. There are seperate branches of govt. The PM stopped the mayor from evictions but has no control in this matter between settlers and the court as it is a court matter.

In all parts of Israel i like this precedent. When peace comes ill be making my claims too

The Israeli Jews cannot expect to have it both ways. They can continue to support Netanyahu and this sort of barbaric behaviour or they can be accepted by the rest of the world as a civilized society.

these are the reasons.

of Jews. Jews should be allowed to live in their land, anywhere.

Mr Inbar! I do not see why you are protesting. This property belongs to a Jewish owner. No one can suspect the courts in Israel to be right wing. Everyone knows that the courts and the judges are leftists. However, the Law is the Law. If the building belongs to a Jewish owner, that owner has the right to evict anyone who lives there ilegally. So stop protesting and stop calling the people who are the owners of the building as "settlers". The few hundred thousand people who live in Petach Tiqva are also "settlers. And so are the Jews who live in Jaffa and Lod and Acres.

and Protection by Police and Army,

Should be featured on a website for the world to see and boycott.

Dig a little farther and you will see these homes are in "Palestine".

The IDF or Mossad in disguise?

What is astonishing is not the fanatical settlers and their behavior, it is the government of Israel that is supporting them. Using 100 year old documents to establish properties were owned by Jews ! Can the millions of Palestinian refugees kicked out of their homes in 47 and 48 do the same?