PA waging diplomatic war over Temple Mount

I find it curious that you, preaching how your version of God is the right one and peaceful God, identify yourself as a Christian "soldier". Yeah that really sounds peaceful to me, hypocritical anti-Semite. You will see Heaven...in your dreams.

Some reasonable status quo!! When Jews went to pray at the Kotel, they did so with the prospect of getting hit in the head with a stone thrown from above Seems you forgot how the Imam's incited the Muslim worshiper's on Friday, telling them to go forth and Jihad in addition to praying If you really think it's so reasonable, don a headcloth, worship at the Kotel (women's side) and take your chances Don't forget to take a kova pladah, might reduce the impact of the thrown rocks

Quoting JO: "Do Jews throw stones on Muslim`s while they pray?????? Never " JO, some Jews do far worse, when they deny Pals basic rights to their patrimony, their ancestral lands and property. Difficult to understand the current government's policies, if they have any intention of peace and amity in the foreseeable future...

When you mean desecration, you mean the fact that they're allowed there I'm assuming. The area is not a squalor and it is maintained. If your question is asking how much longer are the Arabs going to be allowed at this location, well, I'd have though you being a believer would know. It's when the Temple is rebuilt, however isn't that something God's supposed to do? Obviously the Lord isn't too happy at the fact that Israel has destroyed the native indegenious population of this land being the Palestinians and their artifacts. Therefore, GOD will in no way rebuild this temple as long as his "Chosen children" continue to act like spoiled brats.

... totally unnecessary fire... ... there was a reasonable status-qou... ... why did the current government decide to scuttle it...?

Rather than ridicule Josh and me, educate us. Tell us why and answer my questions. Why are the Israeli law enforcement people so pure and the Arabs so wrong? Answer the questions I raised in post 7.

if g-d forbid the arabs would have been victorious in the six day war,and they would have conquered west jerusalem,how many jewish synagoges do you think would have been left standing?of course we all know the answer,[even the self hating leftist's]the same amount that was left standing when the nazis conquered europe.STUPID JEWS,don't you realize by now,it is either YOU or THEM,You must,while you still can BLOW UP and demolish and RAZE this abomination standing illegaly on our holy of holy's,and at the same time round up all these so called palestinian murderous terrorist gangsters and send them back were they came from. either you do this, or start packing your bags.

French Tourists? Great! There are some days when I think the Christians should be in charge of the whole damned city of Jerusalem. They're the only ones not acting like a bunch of babies.

Time to tighten up on the checkpoints again

As you well know, I'm speaking of indigenous Palestinians who are Muslim and who Israelis refer to as Arabs. Your words change nothing.

It`s sad but I think nothing will change until the Lord Jesus returns to rescue the jews from the arab agression and then they will get the land back that God gave them initially which is much more than the sliver of land they have now, with arabs trying to take even more. Come, Lord Jesus!!!

please go to your local library and take out a book on the history of Israel. You will be shocked when you finally learn the truth.

so you are Arabs after all? The Jerusalem Museum archeological exhibition puts paid to your other lie.

if I am correct it was Frence tourists that the police had to protect. Was the group all French JEWS????????

Why don't we turn Jerusalem into a "No Man's Land" once in for all. No Arabs, No Jews, No Christians, nobody. Let's simply wipe the existence off the map, because no one is willing to compromise their intransigent positions. Kindergarten children need to understand limits and constraints, so why don't we do the same for intransigent Palestinians, Jews, and Fundamentalist Christians? Let's move people from the South Pacific whose islands are disappearing because of global warming and have them inhabit Jerusalem instead.....

They're digging under people's houses in Silwan on the pretext of renovations and "cleaning" http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1118883.html and so people surmise they may well be digging under the Temple Mount/Haram al Sharif. What would suit those diligent beings better than the accidental collapse of both? (Beats the old-fashioned house demolition orders for efficiency by a long shot. Oops, it was an accident! Nothing terribly fanciful about that, is there?

The Arabs are lying through their teeth yet again. They must be made to pay taxes for the right to pray at the Mount Temple which is the holiest of holly places to the Jews as Muslims do to other religions in their countries. They can?t wait for a reason to have blood flow in the streets again. ?Popular response? my **s , the Intifada was a well orchestrated occurrence by AraFart himself and now the Arab immigrants calling themselves ?Palestinians? try to get some more sympathy from the world ? stop the madness. No more peace talks until Israel is recognized as a Jewish state with Jerusalem as the undivided capital city. There is no point to talking with people that do not recognize your right to exist.

desicration of our Temple Mount.

The comments of #21"Abu Firas Al Qudsi"shows why there has been no peace over the last 60+ years & why its prospects are so dim.Muslim Arabs have shown a total refusal to accept any relationship other religions have to Jerusalem or any holy site in Israel.This narrow & bigoted view extends well beyond Muslim extremists as some western leaders seem to believe but is part of Islamic belief itself.The Koran is filled with anti-Jewish & anti-Christian language,language which would be described as bigoted &racist if used outside that volume.The so-called "moderate" PA has picked up on this,claiming that there is no Jewish historic relationship to Jerusalem(which by logical extension would include no Christian relationship as well)If the PA leadership is unwilling to acknowledge the religious connection Jews have with their holiest site,how can we believe that they are sincere in accepting Israel.They continue to deny it as the historic home of the Jews,so where is tolerance

Another tunnel dedication ? "Bibi" didn't enjoy the first one enough ?? David

Claiming Jews have no history or significance in the city of David. Throwing rocks and bottles at Jewish worshippers who dare to pray at Judaism's most wholly place. Hardly a political war. But hey lets all cry for the poor innocent Palestinians who suffer at no fault of there own. As long as we are rewarding terrorists lets give Paris to AlQaida

Its not hard to find copys of the Tanach, and the christian bible that predate Islam. ALL those writings state that HaShem gave this Land to WHO!, The Jews. Wake up and go back to your true, and many homelands

Dear Josh, the Arabs pray there daily, no troubles, no problems. On my first trip to Israel back in the 70's I wondered around the inners of the Al Aqsa mosque and had no trouble. The troubles today are not based on any absence of freedom to pray peacefully as Moslems, but is politics. Any Pal leader worth his salt, knows that this issue is a spark point for the advancement of his not her, political career. That the northerners, Moslems from northern Israel who are known troublemakers were behind this nonsense points to their intent to spark violence amoungst their people who take quite fondly to wild rumours and fantasy. Josh before you come out with such profound statements, learn something first, it would help. This situation is too dangerous for the naive and ignorant.

"Israeli Jews need to stay far from the mosque and allow Palestine`s indigenous Arab people to worship safely in peace." There is no such thing, Josh, as an indigenous Arab in Israel. The term Arab denotes precedence from Saudi Arabia.

Fanatic Jews have no business near the Mosque. Israeli Jews need to stay far from the mosque and allow Palestine's indigenous Arab people to worship safely in peace.

3 major religions all hold special signifigance to the temple mount. As it stands the Muslims have controll over the land but the are overlooking thier religious brothers rights to pray on the land aswell. In canada it is quite common for Jews and christians to share thier relgious sites (churches and temples) to allow muslims to pray. Why cant the muslims alow the dome to be changed into a multi-faith facitlity that allows all 3 major faiths to pray there?

1. Muslims have always allowed actualy tourists onto the Temple Mount to visit the architectural beauty of the the mosque and the shrine. 2. Those who wish to assembly on the Mount to hold non-Muslim prayer services have not been allowed. 3. Fanatic and extremist Jewish groups have said clearly that their motive is to hold collective prayer on the site and that it belongs not to the Muslims, whom they refer to as "polluters' and "usurpers" but to the Jews. 4. Let the Israel government and the police state clearly to the Muslim authorities that they will do all in their power to protect the status quo and will not permit these nationalist groups to infiltrate, enter or antagonise others by their provocative actions. This is Israel's responsibility and they must make it clear to these inciters that they will be given no leeway to provike what could be another intifada. Unless that is Israel's intent.

You guys will never get along and will all end up killing each other because you guys worship a hard and unforgiving god - Jesus thankfully came to correct the mistakes of the past - thankfully, the center of faith became Rome and Europe - as if god wanted to separate his people from the mayhem that was to come in the asian regions of the east - now nukes are being introduced and Israel is asking the Christian west to attempt to stop the natural progression that the middle east is on - namely, towards a final liquidating battle that will make most of the region radio active.

and the behaviour of Israel has been one of respect. Throwing stones at Jewish worshippers praying at the Western Wall below is not respectful at all. Thed Mount authorities act as a mini state. Usually tourists are free to visit at certain times and there is only ONE entrance (next to the Wall) for tourists and non muslims to enter - there are other entrances exclusively for Muslims. Not many actually want to visit but some tourists and non muslims do , as well as Jewish tourists. In a respectful fashion. Why does Islam not respect the sanctity of Jewish worship in it's major holidays, when Israel does so to Islam.? They are not ignorant and know this holiday sigficance and the times when it is very busy. Do Jews throw stones on Muslim's while they pray?????? Never

Cummings likes the obvious facts, so here they are directly from the UN report: "From the facts available, the Mission finds that the rocket and mortars attacks, launched by Palestinian armed groups in Gaza, have caused terror in the affected communities of southern Israel and in Israel as a whole. Furthermore, it is the Mission?s view that the mortars and rockets are uncontrolled and uncontrollable, respectively. This indicates the commission of an indiscriminate attack on the civilian population of southern Israel, a war crime, and may amount to crimes against humanity." It's very easy to see that the Palestinians committed thousands of war crimes since 2001 with the rocket attacks against civilians. If fact, Cummings knows that Palestinians have been attacking civilians for decades. Palestinian war crimes. Israel doesn't have to ask for it now - the facts are there and the conclusion made by Goldstone: Palestinian leaders must be put on trial for war crimes.

what is interesting about your post other than the fact that you know nothing of what you speak, is that you have come to accept from the Arabs all sorts of nasty behaviour. Whether it be an Arab driving his car through a Jewish neighborhood on Yom Kippur, a definite NO NO, or it is the pelting of worshippers with rocks during Sukkot, all this and more have become commonplace to you. Why the hell would you accept this behaviour? Are you but another western patronist, who expects these unwashed and uncivilized people to act in such a wild manner? I think so. Rumours spread like wildfire through the Clans and neighborhoods, they do not need an ounce of truth, for the orgasm of throwing rocks at Jews is enough in itself. If it happens to be with the backing of the Palestinian Authority then even better, this way the Swedes will provide funds for lawyers to get these hooligans out of jail. Have you no morals sir? I think not.

A video could help get a clear picture. This is either mistakes on bothside with the Muslims over reacting or a plot by afew radical Jews to stop peace talks. Either way the police must keep peace and keep bothside informed and the Muslims need to stop throwing rocks and focus on using peaceful means.

Nothing changed at the Temple Mount. The PA invented this crisis for its only internal political reasons-- possible upcoming elections, and the fact that it was forced to withdraw its motion at the UN about the Goldstone report. Bashing Israel and being the tough guy is always a good strategy in Palestinian politics to gain voted and deflect criticism.

Long before the existence of the islam and christians the temple mount was and is the jewish holy place. Jews who wants to pray at their holiest site is seen by the PA as provocation. We jews should stand up together and the provocations of the PA ! Who ever says it is a provocation when jews want to pray at our holiest site, is 100% antisemitic. That is just a fact, who does not see this is as blind as those europeans who killed 6 milions of my people. We should stop this nonsence and the world should tell these PA to stop this nonsence. Who ever does not allow me as jew to pray on the holiest site for me, does not want peace. He does not only want to get rid of me but by not allowing me to pray at our holiest site they completely want to kill the jewish religion. It should be clear that people of the PA like Abbas are not wanting peace but get rid of us and our religion. We should stop this PA terror!

will palestinians ever learn? my guess is they will not.

Arabs have squatted in Jerusalem and has kept it's Mosque on top of our holy temple for way too long. These foreigners must return home and stop harassing the native Jews.

How dare anyone throw rocks and create violence in the very heart and sould of the foundation of the Jewish faith. If this is the behaviour of Arabs, ban them from Jerusalem. It is obsurd to think that Arabs have control over this place. Are the Jews such cowards?

Enough is enough. Its only mentioned in Islamic religious text as a holly site for Jews. Muslim text claims rights to the mount openly as squatters and land thieves. Their ownership equation is "what is taken becomes Muslim property till the end of time". In this context the Temple Mount is explicitly viewed as stolen occupied property BUT with the right, as a Muslim occupation, to keep property stolen forever (and losers weepers). That's the core of the matter and why no Israel (not even pre-67 borders) can ever be accepted. Ever. War? If not the Temple Mount.. its Jews in Israel or Jews on the planet or cartoons or .. War and empire building is core to both political Islam (HAMAS etc) and Pan-Arab nationalism (Fatah, Ba'ath etc.).

...swallowing Israeli propaganda like Kool Aid. I guess intelligence doesn't have anything to do with suspectability either. Dutch

No one is going to be fooled by official Israeli hasbara over this. Fanatic Jews should not be allowed any where near the Mosque compound since we all know what they are up to. It's quite astonishing to read here the many comments by die hard deluded Zionists who keep refering to the Mosque as 'mount'. Well, let me tell you something you never read in official Zionist narrative. The handful of Jews or so who had lived in the old city of Jerusalem since the Arab conquest in the 7th century A.D never bothered with the area until the late 16th century. Previous generations of Jews who visited or resided in the city had never made any attempt at praying near the Mosque. Until the 1920's, Jews never prayed near the site and only started demanding access after the arrival of the British in 1918 to the part of the wall of the Mosque where the current Western Wall stands. The entire history of a Jewish link to the city is a fabrication. Jerusalem is as Arab as Paris is French.

sooner rather then later. The left must be destroyed politically or by force and the muslims must be thrown out of the US/Europe/and Israel by nice or by force!

has been for 1600 yrs...if you want to invite french tourist to your synagoge fine but not to our mosque,,,second temptle by harrod the great? harad was an edomite and hellenist not a jew by religion or race as if your temple is under our mosque..its not...you are looking for a mythical past that does not exist

civilization for more than 3,000 years, yet Israel has, for both religious and political reasons, limited the number of Jews ascending to Har ha-Bait and what they can do there. Yet, for the sake of keeping the conflict burning the Muslim-Arabs light the fire, over and over again, and attempt to maintain it. Why? Is this the "religion of peace"?

Actually, Brant, the first thing they did was tear down the Moroccan Quarter close to the wailing wall. This demolishing went so fast that several people died in the razing.

So if I first beat you senseless and then take all your money, I should expect you to be grateful when I give you a bandaid and a dollar?

Moshe Dayan, as a gesture of goodwill after the '67 War He gave it to the WAQF to oversee, not realizing how they would take advantage and eviscerate the Temples artifacts, many of which were carted off into the desert, they're still diggin merrily away in the attempt to distort history Dayan was a great General, but a poor visionary

The temple Mount is part of the land of Israel, just as the Statue of Liberty is American. As such, Israel should control the area and raise the flag of Israel on the Temple Mount. Those who cause violence should be evicted and thrown into jail. Israel has protected the rights of all religions. Not so the Arabs, now or in the past.

Maybe Fayyad's plea would sound better if behind that plea we should ask him "What Happen to and was allowed to happen to all the Jewish Temples in Gaza. The truth is after what they did they shouldn't even be allowed to go near the Temple Mount.

France visiting Har Habait (temple mount) is a provocation? And having Arab youth pelting stones at them - part of the known Arab hospitality - is not? You, Muslim-Arabs disgust me. Instead of reaching out and sitting down for a peaceful negotiation with the government that has already made peaceful gestures towards you in Samaria and Judea, e.g. opening roads, developing the economy, you continue to demonize, to de-legitimize Israel. Why should anyone have peace with you if you don't know yet the meaning of the word,, e.g. look at the "peace" Israel has with Jordan and especially with Egypt.

over the Temple Mount? The fact that they conquered it. What should give Israel domination on the Temple Mount? The fact that they reconquered it. Hoist the Al Aqsa mosque up on a truck and take it out to the Arabian Desert where it belongs.

who are asking to have their capital and share Jerusalem with the Israelis? I don't think SO!

This site is sacred to Jews and Moslems alike. It is time for that realization to sink in, and a different arrangement must be worked out. Perhaps the negotiations can be handled by the religious heads of both denominations- and with a minimum of political considerations.

This site is sacred to Jews and Moslems alike. It is time for that realization to sink in, and a different arrangement must be worked out. Perhaps the negotiations can be handled by the religious heads of both denominations- and with a minimum of political considerations.

Like many of the recent attacks on Israelis in the OCCUPIED West Bank, the real problem is that Israel expects the PA to provide security where its police are not allowed to do anything or even appear. Then when trouble occurs, it's the PA's fault even though IDF and Israeli law enforcement have no clue as to how to do counterinsurgency among Palestinians. Word gets out that settlers are going to attack Al Aqsa. The GOI authorities might stop the attack. But do they inform the people on the mount that the attack was stopped and won't occur? Do they do anything to assure the safety of those Muslims and Christians on top? Do they do anything to reassure those on the top of benign Israeli law enforcement intent? Is there any benign Israeli law enforcement intent? Democracy includes minority rights, not just majority rule.

...and the Jews get asked to be nicer by Sweden and whomever else. The Dome of the Rock and Alqsa are built atop the Jewish temple. Nop Jew was allowed near it while Jordan occupied east Jerusalem. The very first thing Israel did after it defeated the Jordanian aggression of Jine 1967 and took back the Temple Mount was to hand full control of the mosques to the Moslem WAKF. All the provocations in the years since have been Arab; including the recent lies by the Islamic Movement in the North that "right wing Jews" were going to "Take" it. PM Fayyad and the other PA opporunist are waging diplomatic blackmail; not war.

So now it is a ? group of French tourists [who] came to the mount for a previously arranged tour?. Ok, let us adopt an American mentality in believing whatever story the Israeli government throws at us. Then the question remains why did the Israel government permit any tourist activity be it French or whatever baring in mind the sensitivity of the place on that particular day and knowing that the Palestinians are expecting the right ? wing Jewish organization to pop up. Truly this government just loves the tension; it makes it easier for it to call the Palestinians who happen to be the indigoes inhabitants of the land terrorist?

Uh! Oh! Israelis are trying to penetrate the Haram Al Sharif again! That means Israel wants to distract the world from something important like a major landgrab, for example. I wonder what Israei leaders have up their sleeves this time? Oh well, the whole world will know in a few more days.

i remember when the second intifada started, it was really scary. however, who cares you jews and muslims will never get along. good luck beating each other up tomorrow (today depending on time zone).