Norway FM to Haaretz: We are not anti-Semitic or anti-Israel
FM Jonas Gahr Store claims there are 'forces' in Israel that unfairly portray Norway as anti-Semitic.
By Raphael Ahren Tags: Norway Israel news anti-SemitismThere are "forces" in Israel that unfairly portray Norway as anti-Semitic, Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store charged on Monday. He was responding to various reports critical of Norway in the local press.
"There are references to anti-Israel sentiments in the Israeli press, and I see part of that as a campaign, which is being organized and orchestrated from circles who point out enemies of Israel [in Norway]," Store told Haaretz during a visit to Jerusalem on Monday. He refused to speculate who he thinks is behind the campaign.
Last summer, Israeli papers reported that a Norwegian diplomat who had compared Operation Cast Lead in Gaza with the Holocaust had been promoted, and that Norway had honored novelist and Hitler admirer Knut Hamsun with celebrations and a commemorative coin for his 150th birthday. Several Israeli papers also quoted Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman scolding Norway for not walking out during last April's Durban II conference - which was widely criticized as biased against Israel - the way most other Western nations did.
Ahead of Store's visit this week, a Jerusalem Post columnist described the current Norwegian government as "rabidly hostile" toward Israel. And Haaretz quoted a Norwegian opposition leader saying Israeli concerns about Norway are "understandable."
But Store, who himself recently made headlines for endorsing a book that accused Israel of premeditated mass murder during Cast Lead, said these incidents are not representative.
"When I read these allegations in the Israeli press - and some of them I find almost a smear against Norway - my response is: Go and check with the leaders of [the] Norwegian Jewish community," he said. "You will get a [different] story. Yes, there is this gruesome phenomenon of anti-Semitism, also in our society. But I don't buy it at all that Norway is one of the worst cases."
While it is true that a major Norwegian pension fund divested from Elbit Systems because of the company's involvement in building the West Bank separation fence, this did not imply an anti-Israel bias, Store said. The fund divests whenever a company "breaches ethical standards," he explained, adding that it had also divested from certain French, American and Russian firms.
Furthermore, the fund is currently invested in 40 different Israeli companies that are not involved in building the fence, he noted. "That's the big picture."
Store also commented on the November 2009 appointment of deputy minister of the environment Ingrid Fiskaa, who in April 2008 said she sometimes wished the United Nations would send "precision-guided missiles against selected Israeli targets."
"I will be the first to say that these are senseless statements," Store said. "And she's not responsible [for] our Middle East policy at all. But there are things in every person's past in terms of political views and statements."
Rejecting criticism over his contribution to the back cover of the controversial book, Store said he merely applauded the authors for speaking up about what they saw, without judging the validity of their conclusions. In the book, which contains eyewitness testimony by two Norwegian physicians in Gaza during Cast Lead, the physicians, Mads Gilbert and Erik Fosse, accused Israel of perpetrating a "systematically implemented and comprehensive massacre."
"What I said was that during the Gaza war, all independent press was closed out and that when there is no coverage, the first victim is the truth," Store said. "I believe that these doctors ... reported what they saw. I believe that was important."
Writing a blurb for the back cover does not mean he endorses the book's content, Store insisted.
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Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store. |
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"Anti - Semite stance of Europe is well documented", "I don`t want to reads "Hit a Jew" story ever again" -Miron Miron, you must be referring to the "hit a Jew" incident that took place in St Louis, US? http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1030916.html Take a good lesson out of this "hit a European" slip of yours, boy. The moral is that while you might be unable to get rid of your americocentric attitude, you can google up for a more logical excuse to manifest it.
Hey George ,you didn,t finish the full sentence , fully within their rights ,to do what ,say what,please tell us what you are trying to hide?
and is of no surprise. I would not make a news out of it. It's enough they aren't killing Jewish people living in own country. But if you think that they make life full of sugar, just read this article one more time. I think Israel should work on diplomatic offence that will put red lines beyond which Israel will be able to intervene and defend Jewish people, be that Norway. I don't want to reads "Hit a Jew" story ever again. It's enough that my friend at school what it was my time had his scull broken by 6 bullies who were placated by rest of school staff.
In Israel which rates high on both Freedom House and The Democracy Index, Støre was critical and spoke of rights for Vanunu, Gaza and anti-wall activists. Then he lept on the plane to UAE, which in terms of human rights is an abyss, in order to "open doors for Statoil". And the Norwegian pundits, newspapers and intellectuals do not even blink, so neither do the people. Read about it on www.israelwhat.com
... strange forum as soon as the PM of Norway will start sponsoring laws making the Jewish or other minorities of Norway take loyalty oath meaning by this oath any fascist claptrap a local ultra-nationalist party could come up with. Until that very unlikely moment Norway remains the standard of democracy not only for Israel but even for the real Western democracies.
Anti-Semitism does exist in Norway, There are several groups which oppose this trend.
"You can make excuses as long as you want, but the truth is that most anti-Israel demands (boycotts, divestments, academic bans, etc) are simply racist in nature because they are not applied equally to all - only to Israel." These movements didn't just decide "hey lets pick a random country and impose boycotts...etc". They do it because of the immoral acts that Israel gets away with and is not taking responsibility for. What about the fact that all these countries are imposing sanctions on Iran to quit the nuke program but dont apply the same pressure on Israel (the only one in the region with those weapons). I'm sure many Iranians see that as racist too. And all surrounding countries see THAT as a direct threat to them the same way you do when Israel is threatened. You just dont have the capacity to apply the same standards to yourself as you do to others. You've been sucked in by the Zionist propaganda machine
This is a serious issue and you all are responding with hysterical nonsense. If this is your reaction at top political levels then you better get used to getting the cold shoulder from more civilised countries.
In norway we saw many demonstrations against israel, israeli and jews. They finnance NGO openly against israel and the forefront of demonization of israel, and haaretz hadnt a good question? Try next time.
I am Jewish. I grew up in Israel and wasted years in the silly IDF. I attended the religious )mamlachti dati) education. I think that I canfrankly say that I know Jews. I am an ant-isemite. Let's face it guys, when one knows us, our little trickeries, lies, whining and abnoxious behaviour, how can one not be an anti-semite?
The minister should not worry. Israelis never want to be typecast, and yet, if they see something they do not like, the whole country of Norway becomes "anti-semitic." Just do not worry about this nonesense. This is Israeli blackmail so that no one dares to criticize Israel for anything.
Gahr Store talks like a Jew hater, sounds like a Jew hater, endorses books written by Jew haters, is part of a goverment that openly endorses every and all actions against Israels right for self defense, finances all available NGOs that their work is lo destroy Israel and smear the Jews, if he is not a DUCK, he surely looks like one
There is no nation on Earth that is more racist than Israel. Why did your gov't sterilize so many black jews?
I don't think it's because your "Jewish" or "Israeli" it's because you just don't stand up as being a democratic Western state. Your nation is still backward and medieval like the other Arab nations that have dictators that America supports. Ohh does the truth hurt?
come clean & do something about them instead of the brush off approach. European taxpayers subsidise anti Israel NGO's & /or propoganda,it is quite an industry. It would be appropriate for it all to be put on the table for the European tax payers to be informed about where their money goes. Some residents of say Malmo may not be as enthusiastic as the PC brigade about how millions of Euros are spent.
No sending suicide bombers to Israel and firing rockets at Jews is criminal. Stop crying wolf.
Since when has any antisemite admitted to being one? Never not even Adolf Eichman.
Norway accuses Israel of crimes when it defends its people.That is antisemitic.
Sounds like the same lame excuse Noam Chomsky used when he wrote a forward for Robert Faurisson in his Holocaust-denial book also defending the author for speaking up about what they saw, without judging the validity of their conclusions.
From the beginning of the 20th century right up to the 2nd Intifada the Palestinians did not suffer a day in their lives due to Israeli/Jewish cause. Whatever suffering they did was at the hands of the Egyptians or the Jordanians. Please read the history. And the only reason they suffer today is because of either Fatah in power or Hamas in power. Neither of these two groups are willing to "live and let live" Just take for example Hamas' holding onto Gilad Shalit. One israeli soldier is kept hidden for over three years and Hamas refuses to exchange this sole soldier unless Israel releases over 450 Palestinian prisoners. Israel is willing to release 448 of these prisoners ..except for 2 which Israel feels have too much blood on their hands. Now I assume you are a reasonable person. Give me one good reason why the exchange is not being done. Hamas does not give an iota of the "suffering" of its people. Hamas is to blame because Hamas has no concience.
wow,i dont know what to say!the whole world are a bunch of murdering anti semites!norway is one of the most liberal states in the world.fact.im curious,if everybody hates jews why are they still around?if you ask me jews seem to be pretty good at hating too.look at this website wow!did you ever think that the antisemites might want israel to be safe prosperous and peaceful?so all you armchair chickenhawks in the lands of the evil antisemites might go home?put that in your logic pipe and smoke it a while.when can that happen?when will israel be at peace?when the neighbors of israel have equal security.
The separation fence has eliminated the epidemic of suicide bombings. Norway should boycott Palestinians for making it necessary. How many Palestinian actions are aimed against the IDF rather than civilian targets? Isn't that what distinguishes terrorism from "resistance?" His other comments show just how tone deaf he is ("putting a blurb on a book doesn't mean I endorse it" - no it's a clear statement you disagree with it, right?). His antisemitism is so ingrained he doesn't even notice it. "While it is true that a major Norwegian pension fund divested from Elbit Systems because of the company's involvement in building the West Bank separation fence, this did not imply an anti-Israel bias, Store said. The fund divests whenever a company "breaches ethical standards," he explained"
It's over ave,we don't see this kind of behavior anymore because we live in different world today. Today, we see suicide bombers killing civilians after promise of 72 virgins waiting each of them in Heaven,we see crowds in delirium, distributing sweets celebrating those brave acts and asking for more. Or what about frustrated freedom fighters calls to punish enemy because it killed more civilians than they did? Welcome back to reality ave :-)
There's really no point in Jews complaining to those that dislike us. As a nation that has survived every persecuter, we must be confident in our morality, or change our actions if we believe they are not moral. G-d knows what we are and are not - He is the ultimate judge.
For the first forty or fifty years of Israel certain European countries were viewed by Israelis as especially friendly and supportive of Israel, including Norway. The Norwegians have not suddenly become antisemites nor were they simply masking antisemitism in the past. Israel Changed. The occupation has turned you into pariahs throughout the world. Your actions -- apartheid fences, murderinb hundreds of Gazan women and children in a matter of days, pushing Muslims out of their Jerusalem homes and off their West Bank land because of their religion, destroying the infrastructure of Lebanon -- are why these formerly friendly nations like Norway and the Netherlands are turning against you. Soon the US will do the same. The Israeli governments actions, done in the name of the Israel people, will turn the entire world against you.
Well actually not... but you guys have overused the term "anti-semitic". Sadly it dosent make ANY-sense for ANY-one ANY-more. Yes, you had suffered alot in the past, but please just let people to relax.. you can't get people to LOVE you with LAWs...
I have some Danish Muslim friend here and have good relationship with them. They are honest and hard worker people.Israeli propaganda against them is obvious.
"Yes we Europeans are so very evil, we are all anti-semtic and anti-Israel. Are you happy now?" You're trying to be sarcastic, but you sound stupid. No, all Europeans are not Antisemitic. Then again, many are. But yes - we sense that Europe is largely anti-Israel - per se, no matter what. It's the European bon-ton and you try to camouflage it as "critisizing Israel". I tell my fellow Israelis: accusing all Europeans of being antisemitic is stupid and plays into the hands of the rabid Israel haters. Because it allows the sick anti-Israel mob to get away with their usual "criticizing Israel is not antisemitism" mantra. Yes, even as a left-wing, anti-occupation, anti-settlements Israeli, I feel Europe is biased against Israel. Happy now?
Break off diplomatic relations with all anti-semetic countries. Oops, I forgot. Criticizing israeli actions is now officially the same as ant-semetic. That would leave Haiti as israel's sole diplomatic contact.
..Guess who said that? You'd be surprised: "The founder of the modern Zionist movement was a Jewish writer named Theodor Herzl." Wierd, huh?
What would you call Hamas doing in Gaza,Tel-Aviv Jerusalem,Sderot.......charity? It is your head that is buried in the sand,they are bunch of terrorist.
The discrimination, persecution, and ultimately deportation of Jews was enabled by the cooperation of Norwegian agencies that were not entirely co-opted by Nasjonal Samling or the German occupying powers. In addition to the police and local sheriffs who implemented the directives of Statspolitiet, the taxis aided in transporting Jewish prisoners to their point of deportation and even sued the Norwegian government after the war for wages owed to them for such services.When comparing the experiences of Jews in Denmark (also occupied)and Norway, it is clear that things were considerably worse in Norway. Far fewer Danish Jews were arrested and deported, and those who were deported were sent to Theresienstadt, where a relatively large percentage survived, rather than Auschwitz. Plus ça change, plus ça c'est la même chose - little has changed in Norway.
Following their invasion and occupation of Norway, the Germans put Norwegian civilian authorities under their control. This included various branches of Norwegian police, including the district sheriffs (Lensmannsetaten), criminal police, and order police. Under infamous Norwegian Ministerpresident Vidkun Quisling, oppressive policies toward the Jewish populace were implemented. A local Norwegian police chief in Oslo named Knut Rød provided on-the-ground command of Norwegian police officers for arresting women and children and transporting them as well as the men who had already been detained to the Oslo harbor and putting them in the hands of the German SS troops. There were at least 2,173 Jews in Norway at that time. At least 775 of these were arrested, detained, and/or deported. 742 were murdered in the camps, 23 died as a result of extrajudicial execution, murder and suicide.
Palestinians are semites. so if you're going to call him anti semitic than this means he is against the pals as well? you people haven't a clue about anti semitism, in the worlds eyes you are teh anti semitics not the rest of the world. isrl is an antisemitic state. it refuses to recognize it's own flaws and blames the rest of the world for their flaws. go on and whine you're the only ones listening to yourselves. lol
lol@anti-semitic. 90% of isrlies r not semites, just because they speak Hebrew doesn't make them semites. thats like saying if I speak Arabic that makes me a semite. isrlies r as brainwashed as the western world.
Mr.Ghar Store. Perhaps you can throw more light on that Norwegian Trator' Quisling !? What role did he play ? & did he harm Norway in any form ? Reply would be much appreciated. N.B. And also,any of the talkbackers who may have more information besides the usual 'official' stuff are welcome to enlighten those who know so little about the Dark Age of Europe. (WW II)
Yes we Europeans are so very evil, we are all anti-semtic and anti-Israel. Are you happy now?
"An overwhelming majority loves the Jewish people, even in the Muslim countries." Hiding behind nice wording won't help to hide your ugly face distorted with hatred and the wish to annihilate Israel.I still prefer to take more seriously your leaders genocidal threats rather than BS of their propagandists who write from the US even at 3AM. Next time check your watch before you hit Enter boyo.
I've noticed that you both always attack and completely disregard everything said in articles and posts except what you want to hear. Yes anti-semitism exists but dont tell me in todays world there isn't 'anti-islamism' as well. either way, all i wanted to point out is that you both always generalize and refer to 1-2-3 persons' views that made headlines as the whole country's view. Seriously how can you not see the bias in that. To you it seems all 340-something children that died in Gaza last year were all terrorists and justifiably killed. The Nazis had dubious reasoning that they were protecting themselves from the blablabla Jews, how can you not see that you are falling into the exact same mentality? I know none of this will resonate but i really hope it make you open minded a little and think of all people as human beings the same way you look at your ppl and that not the whole world is intrinsically antisemitic bent on israel's destruction.
Little David. Did you know there are two biblical stories relating to 'little David' ? One where he kills Goliath and one where someone else does it. As role models go, David would hardly be the choice for any discerning god.(maybe a valid choice for a backward or capricious god?). After all he was a serial adulterer and even plotted the death of his loyal general to get himself off the hook for impregnating Bathsheba. Then again he fought alongside the Philistines as a mercenary and went on to have his son, Absalom killed, Joab getting the blame).Oh yes not forgetting, he got a young virgin to keep his bed warm once he was geriatric. How would an American evangelist fare today if he were to do even one of the above(adultery, kill his love rival, have his son killed, fight for his enemies, solicit virgins to keep his bed warm?)
Many historians predict that victims do sometimes create victims. Thatis, Palestinians are the victims of victims of Europe.
One has to expect a certain amount of weasel talk from an FM but this is exceptional. Reading this article I became convinced that Norway's rulers are not only anti-Israel but also (as a direct consequence became) anti-semitic as well.
Store is full of BS. Norway is anti semetic and anti Israel. Store and his European gang are not welcome in Israel.
why you held an official meeting with Palestinian representatives in Jerusalem, the official capital of Israel, and not in Ramallah, where the Palestinian government is located. The Israeli government should declare you a persona non grata.
Anti-semitic maybe not,anyway not all them. Anti-Israel 100%.Norway has adopted apeasement and submission policy.They are so frighten that they even hide the truth from their population about the problem they have with Muslims in their country.Norwigan journalist that want to talk about those problems (68% of rape, stabing, robbery and assault)are doing it on foreign media,they don't dare do it on the Norwigan media.Take a week in oslo and try to raise those problems and you will see and feel what i'm talking about.No critic at all of Muslims or Arab countries.They have simply"sold their soul" because they are too frighten.They even cricize my country every time we stand against terror,or talk of our problems with Muslims in Denmark which are similar to theirs.They call the truth racism,and always side with Arabs against their scandinavians brothers.Norway has changed so much that it doesn't deserve to be part of of Scandinavia and i'm ashamed to be their neighbore.
Mr. Store does not feel that his writing a blurb for the back cover of the book does not mean he endorses the book's content. This sounds like double talk. "I believe that these doctors ... reported what they saw. I believe that was important." I think a more honest statement would have been: I believe that these doctors...reported what they wanted to see, not what they did see. According to reports, Mads Gilbert is a radical Marxist and a member of the Rodt party - revolutionary socialist party. In an interview with Dagbladet after the 9/11 attack he stated when asked if he supported the attack, he answered: When asked by Dagbladet if he supported the terrorist attack on the U.S., he replied: "Terror is a bad weapon, but the answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned."(Sept. 30, 2001) Jonas Store completely ignores the obvious bias shown by Gilbert over many years. His blurb is seen as support. If he didn't support it why would he write it ?
Little David came back to life w/ a vengeance!!! Thanks be to the Gd of Israel!! The enemies of Israel haven't got a chance.
did not walk out of Ahmadinejads Durban 2 hatespeech along with the rest of the EU and LAST YEAR, the Norwegian government invested $30 million for major celebrations in honor of the late Knut Hamsun, a writer who had dedicated his Nobel Prize to Joseph Goebbels and in 1945 eulogized Hitler. Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman at that stage accused Norway of indifference to anti-Semitism.
Hi Mohammed .... are you the same one who has been burning Norwegian flags lately?
I would think he means the chairperson of the community, not the "leaders". Her views do not represent the majority of member. She is employed by the Foreign Office and is well known for her denial of the facts on the ground.
who was sending mails comparing Israel with Nazis ? With offcial Norwegian Saudi Arabia Embassy e-mail ? And lying of her "being recalled from Saudi Arania"?
israel is the homeland of the jewish people. israel can and will defend itself against all enemies. the days when jews could be slaughtered in all impunity are over.
Norway has its fair share of anti semites and they are certainly anti Israel.
Kill whales and then portray yourselves as conservationists too... Yeah, right...
I am pretty sure that in Hitler's time he might probably explained the holocaust as a small incident in he big picture of germans-jews relations.
....if the U.S. would be a true friend of Israel, and not a "sucker friend".
The majority of all countries just want to live in peace and take care of their population. Israel should get all humanity to accept it and care about it as a result of Israel's deeds and not just because Israel is demanding acceptance. An overwhelming majority loves the Jewish people, even in the Muslim countries. But Israel's deeds is making it hard to ignore the conscience that makes us question its actions. How can a people that suffered so much allow for so much suuffering ???
The FM is simply clueless about his own antisemitism, ala "No I am not anti-Semitic. I just think that Jews are evil." ... "I am not saying that there massacres in Gaza, but I believe the two doctors who claim to have seen them." Is he aware of these mind-boggling contradictions?
I hate politically incorrect whiners who point to themselves and say "who, me? why, I'm not prejudiced against Israel" yet they turn a blind eye to every inciting and racist statement made by the anti-Israel lobby. At the same time, of course, they pay nominal lip service to the "universality" of human rights and make every excuse possible why the Palestinians are not guilty of war crimes. Norway should pour a bucket of ice water over its own head and wake up. They are being dragged down the ugly road of political correctness that turns truth on its head. You can make excuses as long as you want, but the truth is that most anti-Israel demands (boycotts, divestments, academic bans, etc) are simply racist in nature because they are not applied equally to all - only to Israel. That makes Norway look like they've been totally sucked in by the Palestinian propaganda machine.
Israel had better cross Norway of it's Christmas card list, along with Sweden and Turkey. That's what happens when Netanyahu appoints a moron like Lieberman as Foreign Minister, and makes Israel the laughing stock of the diplomatic world.........
"Anti-Semitic" is a strong word, but it's clear that Norway's current policy toward Israel is beyond insensitive. It's both biased in favor of the Palestinians and hostile to Israel's legitimate concerns. Store's attempt to reframe the issues shows the moral arrogance and presumption rife within Scandinavia's elite classes. And Israel needs no lessons from Norway about "ethical standards".
Sorry, Norway, we must've been watching an old South Park episode by mistake.
It seems that, rather than honestly engage with criticms of Norwegian acts, Norway prefers to spread dark rumours about who would dare tell the truth. How dare someone report on Norway! How dare they criticize us for what has happened in our country! We dare, Herr Store: perhaps you might dare to engage with facts rather than innuendoes.
Lauding others for describing what they saw, criticizing Israel for defending itself? Where was the criticism of Hamas for firing rockets into civilian populations, over 10,000 of them. You would expect a constant refrain of criticism. Hamas contols the economy of Gaza and Fatah the WB. They have both been responsible for targeting civilians. Does this cross an "ethical line" which precludes Norway from providing any economic assistance to the Pals. Don't need to go on. His nonsens speaks for itself.
AND DON'T APOLOGIZE!
I don't believe for a minute that most Norwegians are anti-Semites. However, the Norwegian government, which I believe does not represent the vast majority of Norwegian has shown in its actions & words that it is anti-Israel & anti-Semitic. Nothing that Store has said has convinced me otherwise & I hope people like him are in the minority. If not, then Norway is in real trouble, because where there is one form of racism there are others.
The anti Semitic trees are so full...the anti Semites can't see or don't want to see what they are.
Gee, that's comforting
They are known propagandists
SS- Obersturmbannfuhrer Eichmann clearly stated that was not antisemitic. Just Nordic fairness.
what you did in Gaza is a crime . building a separation wall and stealing people's water and land is a crime .. get over it and stop digging your head in the sand .