Netanyahu asked Canada PM to thwart G8 support for 1967 borders
G8 statement would have supported Obama's policy that Israeli-Palestinian talks should be based on 1967 lines with land swaps.
By Barak Ravid Tags: Israel news Benjamin Netanyahu Barack ObamaAt the request of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper thwarted an announcement Friday by the G-8 countries that would have supported U.S. President Barack Obama's statement that talks between the Palestinians and Israel should be based on the 1967 borders with exchanges of territory.
The G-8 countries - the United States, Russia, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Japan and Canada - met in France on Thursday and Friday to discuss the situation in the Middle East.
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Prime Minister Netanyahu & Canadian Prime Minister Harper |
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Obama presented his Middle East policy to the G-8 as an alternative to a unilateral Palestinian move to seek support for statehood in the United Nations General Assembly in September, and to clarify to the Palestinians that the international community takes a dim view of the Palestinians' move to win statehood in the United Nations.
According to a senior government official in Jerusalem, Israel was concerned over the implications of a specific mention of support for Obama's call for negotiations based on the 1967 borders and exchanges of territory, so the prime minister's bureau and the Foreign Ministry began working on the matter as early as the middle of last week.
The Foreign Ministry instructed its envoys in the various capitals to ask that the G-8's concluding statement emphasize three things: that a Palestinian state will arise only through direct negotiations, not through a unilateral move in the United Nations; opposition to Hamas-Fatah reconciliation as long as Hamas rejects the Quartet's conditions; and opposition to a mention of the issue of 1967 borders and exchanges of territory. However, there was concern over whether inclusion of the latter issue could be prevented, the official said, because at least seven out of the eight G-8 countries supported including it.
Tuesday, after Netanyahu's speech to Congress, he telephoned Harper, who heads a rightist government under whose leadership Canada has become one of Israel's greatest allies.
The senior government official said Netanyahu told Harper that mentioning the issue of the 1967 borders in the statement, without mentioning the other issues, such as Israel as a Jewish state or opposition to the return of Palestinian refugees to Israel, will be detrimental to Israeli interests and a reward to the Palestinians.
"The prime minister is in constant contact with various leaders in moving ahead the diplomatic process," Netanyahu's bureau said.
Since a decision on the statement requires consensus, Canada's efforts led to a release of the statement without reference to the 1967 borders.
The statement released expressed general support for the Obama speech, but called for the establishment of a Palestinian state through negotiations, not unilaterally, and for Hamas to accept the Quartet's conditions.
Harper said Friday that he thought the statement issued was "balanced." He also said it was important not to "cherry-pick" Obama's statement. "I think if you're going to get into other elements, obviously I would like to see reference to elements that were also in President Obama's speech. Such as, for instance, the fact that one of the states must be a Jewish state. The fact that the Palestinian state must be de-militarized."
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman spoke over the weekend with Canada's foreign minister, John Baird, and thanked him for Canada's position during the G-8 deliberations. "Canada is a true friend of Israel and with a realistic and proper view of things, it understands that the 1967 borders do not conform to Israel's security needs and with the current demographic reality," Lieberman said.
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This is all about right wingers biblical obsession with the holy land, the powerul Israeli lobby in Canada and domestic politics.The fact that Harper is being Netanyahu's useful idiot is nothing to cheer about. I remember Canada used to be a honest broker in the ME, guess those days are gone.
This is all about right wingers biblical obsession with the holy land, the powerul Israeli lobby in Canada and domestic politics.The fact that Harper is being Netanyahu's useful idiot is nothing to cheer about. I remember Canada used to be a honest broker in the ME, guess those days are gone.
This is appalling. Thankfully, the backlash in Canada against Harper is already growing.
better friend than Obama.
thank you PM. U HAVE MADE MY PROUD
Is this the official Islamic, anti-semite, and leftists meeting point? By the by, PM Harper is democratically elected and supported by most Canadians. For those who are whining, I can't blame you, your party is not even elected as Canada's official opposition. Using your own rational, 70% did not vote for your party but you are free and welcome to whine just like spoiled brats.
I am so proud of Prime Minister Harper, my prime minister - a principled, thoughtful leader who is not afraid to distance himself from Obama's flawed policy. We stand with you Israel and will never abandon you.
Harper stands for what is just. He knows that if the arab nations lay down their arms against Israel there would be peace. If Israel lays down its arms there would be no Israel. Canada is a very brave and moral nation under Harper. We stand with thee.
For Netanyahu to even imagine that the G8 is capable of having any say about the future of Palestine is like imagining that a stick can stand in the way of a tsunami. Wake up Israel, the tides have turned against you many years ago. If the 67 border is now an offer, in the future, Israel will have to beg for it. ps shame on Canada
When it comes to the middle east all what we have been hearing for generation are words in the water, America in its current thinking can’t facilitate peace it’s counterproductive to the special interest groups and die hard Jewish lobby that enjoy bipartisan support on both houses of congress despite the administration rhetoric , thus rendering the office of the President powerless, the US elections is a hammer pointed at any descending voice against the status quo, since 1967 the only contribution America was able to provide is weaponry thus facilitating the killings of the innocents , the oppression of the masses by the so called pro-western rulers and the prolonging of the occupation of others by our own ally the “only western highly democratic country in the middle east when it is compared to Egypt and not so highly democratic when it is compared to the US or Canada ”, are we so idiotic or naive as the after mentioned groups and promoters that we failed to grasp and understand that the American born again Christians the Islamist extremist the Sara Palin’s the Mike Huckabee’s the Sean Hannity’s and the Osama ben Laden’s of the world the Islamophobic profiteers the mullahs of Iran Hamas Hezbollah and the Israeli right are all allies if they like it or not of preventing the two state solution “by promoting all is ours and none is theirs ” and thus bringing all of us closer to the zero hour of the great bloodletting and horrific evil that will sadly make the combined bale suffering of our forefathers and peers Pale in comparison of what lays ahead for all of us Arabs Persians Jews and yes Americans if we fail to wake up; but what do I know ,
As a Canadian I'm glad to see Stephen Harper was more intelligence and balls then the other G 8 morons.. Stephen Harper is aware of Genesis 12 :3 and that it is the God of Israel that is in control of all things...Canada is receiving those blessings. As long as Stephen Harper is P.M of Canada we as Canadians will be blessed...
At this point, The best I can ask for is another vote of non confidence for the Prime Minister of the my country. Let everyone know in Israel that Harpo DOES NOT represent the overwhelming majority of Canadians. Unfortunately, we have another four years of this twit. And who better to congratulate him than the laughing stock of Israeli politics Mr. Avigodr Lieberman. Lock the two of them up, they are now BOTH officially war Criminals. What a goof!
I am so proud, once again to be Canadian. In return for doing what's right, I ask G-d once again to keep our land glorious and free!
when will netanyahu be assigned the role of president of the UN?
This makes sense. Why ruin possibilities of a peaceful settlement with prejudicial statements.
I don't know why Harper would stick his neck out and our countries neck at the same time and support a country that has never done anything for us. If I took a poll of 100 of my neighbours I don't think I could find 10 people that would support Harper's statement, not 10. If would sit down and speak with those 100 people and explain what this whole issue is about that number would probably drop to 5. Harper does not speak for us!!!
Much as I disagree with Likud (to put it gently), I have to shake my head in amazement at the sheer power that this tiny organization wields over major nations of the world. Until a few weeks ago, the unilateral declaration of Pal. statehood seemed like a slam dunk for some degree of success. But Bibi and Avigdor have rallied and fought back. Of course Fatah-Hamas are not lacking in chuzpah and clout either !
Harper's 'hidden agenda' is becoming unwrapped.
Harper's 'hidden agenda' is becoming unwrapped.
As Canadian I am shocked by Stephan Harper endorsement of Israeli occupation, colonization and apartheid.
Especially in late summer.
Difficult to accept the Palestinians not recognizing Israel as the home to the Jewish nation when he Harper granted the status of nation to Quebecers.
Perhaps this is what Netanyahu does best: divide neighbor from neighbor. Harper bought in to this nonsense and I think he will be the worse for it.
The fact remains that Canadian Prime Minister did in fact block Obamas plan. G-d bless Stephen Harper.
I am Canadian, and I don't see how my country's security is related to Israel's! GWN, can you please explain to me how Israel's security is West's security....I can't people in this time and age still buy this bull...let's look at it this way, the West is in danger and keeps getting targeted because it is supporting Israel blindly...so Israel's security is a danger to the West! There is unbelievable bias towards Israel, and I am ashamed, being a Canadian, that my country is following the path of the USA, and is taking orders from a Israel. Shame on us, shame on your Mr. Harper, you brought disgrace to my country.
Harper isnt simply choosing sides. He is very aware that a two state solution involves a Plalestinian state beside a Jewish state. The problem is, the Palestinians wont recognize a Jewish state. Why would Canada support such a deal? The only solutuion is a true two state solution. If the 67 boarders are what they really wanted, then they shouldnt have tried to wipe Israel off the map in 67. There is no gaurantee that the Arabs will not try it again. First start with minimal land swaps. As the years pass, then more land can be given back ONLY IF THERE IS TRUE PEACE!!!
Your Israel was already into areas beyond the 1948 borders at the time of declaring independence. Your myth in trying to pose the Palestinians as the aggressor is just another lie. If you cared to read any of your prominent military commanders of the day, they were never happy with just the 48 borders, so they made up a myth that they were defending themselves while they stole more land of the Palestinians. No surprise because even today the claim defence while pushing into the last remaining Palestinian areas. Now the 67 borders are not enough.
We voted in a majority Conservative government under the strong leadership of PM Harper, a modern day prophet. He is openly supportive of Israel and he won the support of Canadians. God Bless Canada and Israel!
All he represents is the 39% that really need a reality check
The US and Canada meekly complies.
Where is Bibi's toolbox?
Where is Bibi's toolbox?
Where is Bibi's toolbox?
So the right wingnuts are celebrating the fact that one out of the G8 sided with Bibi and Avi's Bantustan policy. That still leaves seven other major powers - including the US - opposed.
The statement said "vision outlined by president Obama on May 19th. The fact that it didn't repeat th 1967 doesn't mean much.
Harper's riding is in Calgary which has a Muslim mayor. My city, just up the road, has a Jewish mayor and we live in peace. Harper's understanding up the Middle East is muddled by his political needs and by his religion beliefs. If the German's simply offered a choice to convert or continue on to the shower, most here wouldn't have seen a problem.
Harper's riding is in Calgary which has a Muslim mayor. My city, just up the road, has a Jewish mayor and we live in peace. Harper's understanding up the Middle East is muddled by his political needs and by his religion beliefs. If the German's simply offered a choice to convert or continue on to the shower, most here wouldn't have seen a problem.
Lieberman did it, right? Good job
If Israel doesn't have America's support, Israel has nothing. It is America that has been supporting Israel all these years with money, weapons and UN vetos. The American congress loves Israel because it is in their interest to do so. In truth, politicians affaction is not real. It is linked to their self interest. The attitude of the American government toward Israel is changing, although it won't change completely overnight. If Israel loses America's support, Canada's support will definitely not fill the gap.
Mr. Harper is the best PM Canada has ever had. I am so proud to be Canadian these days
The fact that Bibi is lobbying international meetings for what is effectively spin shows how devoid of real action he is. Stop treating the symptoms and start treating the problem. September is edging closer.
We used to be a peace-loving, fair honest country respected throughout the world. What happened? Now we are puppets, parroting what we're told. Sad day for Canada.
As a progressive and human rights-loving Canadian, I was deeply disappointed in the re-election (with a majority, this time) of Conservative government. I should not be surprised at Harper's unconditional support for the Likud party, as he has relexively adopted every position that the US neo-conservative movement ever held. Harper has been equallly specious in his cherry-picking of Obama's speech (including the blatant omission of the "with mutually agreed swaps" that seems to illustrate the disingenuousness of pro-Israel parties.
Very proud of my country, my Prime Minister. Harper has had my support in every election.
Would someone from Canada please explain what Israeli borders and illegal settlements on Palestinian land have to do with the security of Canada?
Harpers political platform made no mention to the Canadian electorate so he can not say his position is Canada's position. All it proves is that 39% of Canada was dumb enough to vote in this megalomaniac. His government fell due to him wanting to keep certain financial records away from the public, so as you see this is a dishonest manipulative man. The left vote is split between two parties NDP and liberal leaving Harper an opportunity for power and this is what he does with it. He is more interested in helping a foreign interest than to represent the views of the Canadian majority which beleives in a two state solution with 67 borders and against settlements.
But NO THANKS MARCUS. WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM IN CANADA.
It's ironic that for possibly the first time in history we have a more pro-Israeli prime minister than the US President. What this article doesn't tell you is that Harper has ties to some of Canada's most prominent evangelical and fundamentalist groups, and that with his recent parliamentary majority he'll be free to pander more and more to that crowd. Rest assured, the majority of the Canadian public supports a dignified 2-state solution and frankly views Harper's ultra-Israeli stance as an embarrassment.
The PM is on a roll. He is outmanuevering Obama at every turn. Like a master chess player he is three moves ahead of the outclassed US President. Now the leader of the free world must endure a dressing down from our fair weather friend Harper. It is time for Obama to wave the white flag and remove himself from leadership on the entire so-called peace process.
Thank you Canada and United States of American for your support to Israel. God bless you all, amen.
does not imply a seriousness towards moving forward towards peace between two adversaries, just procrastinating from the inevitable. other Israeli prime ministers negotiated on the basis on 1967 lines, so what is Netanyahu pulling? Needless to say, didn't vote for this right-wing Canadian party and that doesn't mean I don't support Israel - on the contrary, it means I support Israel and want the best for its future existence and not to be stigmatized as an occupying country,facing boycotts, etc.
This conflict has to do with the PLO insistence to destroy Israel. I appreciate what Canada has done, but the main issue is letting the world know the true intentions of the PLO (Fatah).
to those excited for Canada's support of the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands should not rejoice to much, only 40% of the voters voted for this idiot Harper, whereas Canada's international standing has been suffering as consequence of this Evangelical moron.
And 70 percent did not support the opposition party.
aWAHHH!...sniffle....
This does not reflect our feelings about the ME conflict.
Canada like David facing the 7 mean G8 Goliaths. That is not a reason for celebration but for serious reflection. An added consern is that Canada is not the one holding the purse.
Knowing this bunch, once they hear that they get to stay, they'll leave except for the hard-core zealots. .
It seems as if the world ahs gone crazy and only Canada has retained its sanity. The rest of the G-8 thinks it can willy nilly make short shrift of Israel's security needs and that Israel will just fall in line. Don't the other members of the G-8 realize that no amount of placating is going to get the Palestinians back to the negotiating table. The PLA want Netanyahu's government to fall and they have mistakenly come to believe that by refusing to negotiate Netanyahu will fall. In truth, the refusal to negotiate with Israel only makes Netanyahu's government stronger--thank goodness. It seems as if only Canada is displaying the good sense that is likely to bring both partners to the negotiating table. Kudos to Canada's Prime Minsiter.
He's the only leader with the guts to stand firm in support of the only sane and stable country in the Middle East, instead of kow towing to the Arab wrold.
It endorsed President Obama's speech as the bases for negotiations. If the speech includes 67 borders with land swaps and from Harper's statement that he supports the speech entirely, I guess he supports the 67 borders with land swaps.
Yes, we love you Israel...I am proud to be Canadian and I am proud for having a PM like Mr. Harper, honest and brave. God Bless Israel and Canada!!!
I bet that you're not even Canadian.
Harper shames Canada!
in these days to be a Canadian.
Agreed.
My country, Canada, used to stand up for fairness and human rights. We took a stand against Apartheid in South Africa. Harper taking his orders directly from Netanyahu is an insult to my country. Most of the people i know want a just settlement in the Middle East which means a Palestinian State on internationally recognized borders.
Vietnam...Iraq... you guys have always been on the right side of history... until now. Its a shame.
Now the right is in, and they do not cow tow to the socialist moral equivalent Birkenstock wearing three huggers that used to pervade our foreign policy. The palis want a state. sit and negotiate for it. Don't try an end run. palis has a ten month construction freeze and decided to stay away. If they want a state state your case accept reject or counter any israeli position. Problem is this no one in teh pali side wants to be seen as a comrpoomiser. . No negotiations no state for palis 20 more years of nothing
Like you've indicated, its NOT your country...it's him.
Like you've indicated, its NOT your country...it's him.
Like you've indicated, its NOT your country...it's him.
I have no doubt that you have NO IDEA of the situation in the ME. Your comparison to "Apartheid" confirms this. There is no apartheid in Israel, only in Arab countries, and Israeli Arabs are genuinely free in Israel (and Happier than their brethren in Arab Countries.
Harper stands by the principles of freedom and democracy, not just in words, but in deeds as well.
Harper stands by the principles of freedom and democracy, not just in words, but in deeds as well.
Harper stands by the principles of freedom and democracy, not just in words, but in deeds as well.
Harper stands by the principles of freedom and democracy, not just in words, but in deeds as well.
Harper stands by the principles of freedom and democracy, not just in words, but in deeds as well.
Bending over...
Bending over...
Bending over...
thank you prime minister stephen harper.
the canadians has strong israeli lobby even stronger than the american one. all I am seeing in this picture is a guy who is not satisfy with the three quarters that he got in 48 and decided to keep going with taking more of the palastenians lands. the other is too simple to care and he only cared is to be elected for another term..
Thank you very much!
Never give up the settlements, we love and support you Israel. Israel's security is the West's security.
May be you love Israel, but me, not Canada
As a Canadian, I disagree with this statement 100%
As a Canadian, I disagree with this statement 100%
I don't like Harper's domestic policies, but I'm sure proud of him on this one!