Military Intelligence monitoring foreign left-wing organizations

Israel has established a pattern of being poorly prepared for expected events, then reacting poorly once the events occur and finishing by using petty deceptions to obscure reality. Over and over again. The problem is Israel's corrupt and dishonest leadership. When you kill an unarmed civilian, particularly a child, that dead person is reality number one. The moment you try to spin it so the act was justified you have the whole world against you. Go on pretending the IDF is justified no matter what they do. Go on pretending that Zionists have some special rights that Muslims and Jews do not have.

Keep up with stuff like this, and the US will elect Ron Paul and he will pull the plug on military/economic/diplomatic/etc support for Israel. As a member of the targeted US left, I would like to tell you all that I wouldn't vote of Paul because I have personally seen the neo-nazi tendencies of a large portion of the US right, ie Rich Iott, JT Ready, etc, and would never vote for them. Buy why is Israel targeting me instead of them? WAKE UP!!!!!! If one lefty US citizen gets murdered, things will flip sooooooo fast, and it will be the US right leading the charge. That is exactly what they want

contrary to some stupid comment attributed to Israeli diplomats who need to be called to order by their minister. Kol Hakavod to Aman

Delegitiization means that the state of Israel has no right to exist. That the Jewish people have no right of self-determination. It does not mean criticism of Israeli policy. An example: many people protest against American policy. nobody says that America has no right to exist. So why are people here complaining? A rhetorical question.

This agency could allow needed improvement for Israel in the ongoing PR battle. For example, in my opinion, Israel's main error in the last flotilla episode was its poor public relations. It was unprepared and behind the ball, allowing left wing and arab groups to secure world favor by flooding the media with sub-par facts and by spinning them to put Israel in a negative light. Still, the broad scope of the agency could also seemingly allow abuses.

"Legitmacy" is the quality of living with in the law. Israel's constant breaches of international law are what delegitimize it. Prisons are filled with people who were abused as children and grew up feeling that their pain, deprivation, and suffering -- which nobody else could understand -- make it OK to steal, rape, beat, and kill. No reasonable person can deny the historic suffering of the Jewish people, but how does that make it OK to dispossess Palestinians? Even ardent Zionists like Justice Goldstone; many who want a peace based on an approximation of the pre-1967 borders recognize that Israeli-imposed conditions on occupied peoples are in violation of international law. Were Israel to comply with those laws there could be no "delegitimization."

called Apartheid. Nothing surprising here.

Hopefully some of the extreme left organizations like the ones who flew to Iran to meet Achmedanijab will be placed on the Mossad List. Go Israel.

seems to me that the recent government is delegitimizing israel. maybe they should be observed? ...whatever, all this sounds so absurd. the sad thing is we're not talking about a monthy python movie here. but what can you expect from racists like bibi and the the fuehrer avigdor liberman?

They seek the destruction of Israel whilst pretending to work for humanity.

If you agree with everything we do without question, if you deeply know we can never do wrong, then you're a fine, holy, decent fellow, worthy of the name 'Jew'. If you dare to criticise us - Oyveh! You're a DELEGITIMISER! A SELF-HATER! So you'd better watch out - Ve haf vays of making you be quiet...

in the last 100 years. makes sense to monitor them. the right-wingers are usually less sofisticated and don't have massive support from the media/governments

This is a throw back to McCarthy era politics where everyone suspected of disloyalty is investigated and asked to prove their innocence without a crime being committed. Instead of pursuing this inquisition, Israel would do much better by abiding by International Law and removing settlements, thus rendering any criticism of their actions mute.

Consider what it is like for pro Israeli pro peace supporters in Britain and elsewhere who are being attacked like the young man outside SOAS in London yesterday

At least that´s what Haifa police station does.

that a bit of blogging commentating on articles etc, has forced israel to spend it's treasure, and has tied down resources in military intelligence. At least they aren't arresting Palestinian children (a ten year old yesterday) or rounding up all the men in villages around Itamamar. (Was the Thai home help who killed the family by the way, Netanyahu has a gagging order on it, so if a Palerstinian is hauled up in front of a judge we will know it is a show court along the lines of Stalin's Russia)

Is this even legal?

Many of them are spies & Israel haters,wherever they are from.

same articles and babble and never any progres for brain of puppet never evolve never ever do you like this?? please dont tell me that you like this and that you call this life

and enjoy life this is all the point and if you were normal 90% of those problems and waste working sparing enerrgy for problems no one need wouldnt exist and if you dont see that then i dont know,. but you cant say you tried for you didnt and if you did all would be normal there by now

even building homes wouldnt be a problem no matter where they would build but if you are mentally ill and fight for something that make no sense you dig your own problems

it is the paradise that matters not how cake is cuted

We, the western socialist movements, do not need to "delegitimize" Israel. Israel is very good at doing that by itself.

One of the steps down the road to fascism whether the intelligence community thinks it's onto something or not. What about "had enough" does the intelligence community not understand? The permanent status panic stations have burned a large part of the world population out. And many Israeli citizens too. Muscle wedded to procrastination has only brought more muscle and procrastination. Most of us have unfortunately switched off, but some are trying to look beyond the muscle. They deserve kudos and could teach the "intelligence" community a thing or two in pure native intelligence if only it was open to such simplicity.

..."created several months ago dedicated will work closely..." I don't understand this subheader sentence - eirther "created" or "dedicated"

the collaborators in the US who send money to the criminals and settlers in the West Bank? And who is watching those in the IDF who turn a blind eye to Jewish terrorists?

Why would we deviate from the tried and tested? Monitoring seems so....Stalinist.

it will be interesting to see what your American brothers think of this

The IDF worried about "left wingers"?? The only people calling for Israel's extermination are decidedly not liberal...

monitoring organisations will lead to interfering with foreign organisations. And when that doesn't work then there will be targetted killings, mas imprisonment. We saw it happen in apartheid South Africa it is only natural that Israel with it's theories on racial superiority should descend down the same path

tough being the only democracy in the middle east isn't it? You do realise that measures like this are hardly democratic don't you? What would you say for instance if a European country openly announced that a special branch is formed to investigate ( spy) on jews? Same thing really!

One day there will be a reckoning.

Civil and human rights undefined, borders undefined, 'criminal' deligitimization undefined

such organizations should be banned

Unbelievable!

It's sad but somebody's gotta do it! The attack against Israel has fled from the field of battle, where it has lost, and taken refuge in the ivory towers of academia and NGOdom. So ensconced, Israel's enemies try to undermine Israel's legitimacy with specious appeals to neo-Marxist and deconstructionist political thought. These groups represent an active, hostile front in the ongoing Arab-Israel conflict and the Israeli state is well within its rights to defend itself on that front. it is well and good to say Israel is a colonial settler state, whatever technical entity that may be in the field of state typology. But when one takes that technical concept and employs it as a propaganda weapon, then we exit the sphere of discussion and enter the sphere of conflict.

Is Israel a real nation? Does it sit with other nations at the UN? It seems to me that Israel IS a legitimate country and a democracy because it elects its governments and has a free press, though it is very sensitive to the opinions of those who do not agree with the conservatives when they are the ruling party. The only people who can delegitmize Israel are those who seek to limit its freedoms. This is something that right wing governments have done throughout history. Once they get power they change the rules; they change the playing field so that it tilts in their favor. It happens in a million different ways in the US, such as gerrymandering which means that whoever is in power at the time of a new census can shape the voting districts to favor them. And while the right wingers always have a holier than thou attitude about preserving freedom and legitimacy in reality they want to be more equal than any other party in order to keep their power. So it goes with Israel. Israel is in the Major Leagues but its right wing government is in the Minors. They have and show the world too much fear. Israel is a world power and as such should stop talking so much about who is out to hurt it. Teddy Roosevelt said "speak softly and carry a big stick," and that's what Israel needs to do. Israel needs to act like the Major Leaguer it is.

1 floatillas are clearly a danger to state security. the model should be the blockade on former yugoslavia which was very broad. 2 bds is also clearly contrary to the state's security. the very purpose of bds is to undermine the state's economy and her ability to conduct regular business. 3 consorting with enemy states is an obvious threat to the state's security. any person, other than a legitimate diplomate, who consorts with enemy states or groups should be denied entry to israel. 4 collection of information on members of the idf or of israeli politicians with the intent of passing such information to any foreign groups clearly violates state security. 5 journalists or members of ngo's who violate any of the above should have their visas revoked. 6 criticism of israeli policies per se is legitimate as long as such criticism does not incite to violence against israel or any of her citizens. 7 anyone who engages in antisemitic incitement should be barred from entering israel. 8 anyone who denies the right of israel to exist as an independent sovereign state should be barred from entering israel.

Freedom of speech is not licence to delegitimize the State of Israel and to act as cheerleaders for Israel"s enemies.

Rather than wasting resources on witch hunts, Israel might better consider granting freedom and equal rights to Palestinians. Israel deligitimizes itself through behavior which offends Western and Jewish values.

This should have happened a long time ago. Where the far left is concerned there is always trouble. They think with emotion not rationality and of course this is dangerous to all concerned. I have no trust in them but I do fear them. They need to be watched carefully and monitored. Their intent is to give away Israel piece by piece because they believe in nothing sacred about Israel. Easy come easy go is their motto. To follow their lead would be like following a blind man over a cliff...monitor them closely Israel for the sake of the country.

It is about time we did something about the people who want to destroy Israel under the guise of a 'peace movement'. I do not understand why Israel is not sueing the "Israel appartheid" organizers for slander. Let them have their day in court and prove what they claim.

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Great Democracy! Will make Sarah Palin proud.

Israel a democracy?hahahahaha.....

Delegitimize Israel is to deny the natural right of the Jewish people to self-determination in its homeland, Israel. It can take the forme of historical lies, of accusations that deny Israel its right to exist; it's embracing ways to destroy Israel, under the disguise of "progressive", "humanitarian", or other ideologies. Every nation has the right to self- determination, to have a state for its own people: Jews, Palestinians, Egyptians, Lebanese. To deligitimize Israel by singling out Israel as the only nation without that right, accusing it or a kind of original sin, of the Jewish people not to be up to that right, or not deserving that right; or not to deserve it in its homeland, whence it gave the Bible to the world, that is delegitimizing Israel. It may or may not use current legitimate or ilegitimate "reasons". But the denial is unacceptable. And I am very relieved MI is taking finally a stand, and integrating this existential threat into consideration. No other country experiences it, that's whay it is very complex to handle, but not that complex to define.

Israel should ounish the islamic terrorists who organized the mavi marmara flotila.If not other jihadists will try.

Those left wing extremists pose almost the same threat to Israel as the most radical of Islamists. They want the same thing as them: give Israel back to the Arabs.

Two thumbs up and and a Marine cheer.

This department is a prime example. Israeli right is Israel's own worst enemy. The sooner it realises this, the better for everyone involved.

There's a very strong line between citizens protesting the policies of their government which they do in every democracy, and delegitimizing their country thru their protests. It's very troubling that the Israeli army would investigate its own citizens or outside groups and organizations. People all over the world protest their own and other governments and when a democracy begins going after those who criticize it and calling them "the enemy" then they are on a very slippery slope that will end their democracy, curtail freedom, and they will become the worst of everything their critics accuse them of. Israel needs to stop emulating the police state tactics of Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. If Ben Gurion were alive today he would be sickened by what he sees.

There's a very strong line between citizens protesting the policies of their government which they do in every democracy, and delegitimizing their country thru their protests. It's very troubling that the Israeli army would investigate its own citizens or outside groups and organizations. People all over the world protest their own and other governments and when a democracy begins going after those who criticize it and calling them "the enemy" then they are on a very slippery slope that will end their democracy, curtail freedom, and they will become the worst of everything their critics accuse them of. Israel needs to stop emulating the police state tactics of Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. If Ben Gurion were alive today he would be sickened by what he sees.

The expansion of settlements do much more damage to the long term security of Israel than anything an outside peace group is doing. The IDF is wasting time and resources to pursue a political mission rather than a security one.

The leftists are a danger to the state of Israel.

is this a joke?