Lieberman used Africa trip to lay groundwork for arms deals

Dino, Kindly notice on the news programs that when you see the "Freedom Fighters" of Africa, take careful notice of the weaponary, Most weapons are either made in China or Russia. The Chinese made AK47 costs somewhere between 150 to 200 USD. The tanks may be old, yet they are Russian, The artillery is also Russian. Just where do we see Israeli made weapons.? The shining light unto nations... Israel builds clinics, supplies the latest technology in Agriculture. Surely, Israel is a shining light comparative to China or Russia. I do concede that Israel may sell communications equipment,Radar and Intel sharing Services. Buona jornata.

... that is riling the vociferous Israelis who denigrade Lieberman's efforts... ... from past experience and imminent litigations we tend to fear ulterior motives...

Make no mistake, arms deals to the third world cause mass misery as tribal and political differences cause civilian deaths, ethnic cleansing, child soldiers, mass rape, and every other horror of war. Even the so-called democratic regimes in Nigeria and Kenya are heavily involved in tribal feuds, so people that arm either or both sides are morally responsible for the tragedy. Israel should be selling agricultural and hi technology and goods to the third world, and not participate in blood letting. Shame on Leiberman, shame on Israel for pursuing the dirty business of arms sales and letting money overide conscience and morality. What ever happened to the idea of a light to all the nations?

If US, UK, Russia, China can make money from the sale of the arms why can?t Israel? Can any country on this planet function without the arms? Every one ignores the fact that alongside to the arms Lieberman discussed the projects in why can?t Israel? Can any country on this planet function without arms? Every one ignores the fact that alongside to arms Lieberman discussed the projects in biotechnology, agriculture, water conservation and helping to contain AIDS.

"Your rulers are rebels, companions of thieves; they all love bribes and chase after gifts. They do not defend the cause of the fatherless; the widow?s case does not come before them. " - Isaiah 1:23 Woe to those. . .'who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent." - Isaiah 5:23 "Israel?s watchmen are blind, they all lack knowledge; they are all mute dogs, they cannot bark; they lie around and dream, they love to sleep. Is. They are dogs with mighty appetites; they never have enough. They are shepherds who lack understanding; they all turn to their own way, each seeks his own gain." - Isaiah 56:10-11 Isaiah understood that evil men pervert any society which acclaims them.

Just what Africa needs, more arms, more money spent on arms, and more strife.

Israel must do more to achieve peace in the Middle East if it wants to improve diplomatic and business ties with Africa's most populous country, said Nigeria's Foreign Minister. (Silobreaker 9.9.09) Yahoo News ABUJA (AFP) 8 September 09 "Nigeria sees Israel losing international good will." by Ola Owoniyi. Israel's grip on the West Bank in defiance of international opinion is denying Israel the goodwill it is due, said Nigeria's Foreign Minister Ojo Maduekwi told his Israeli counterpart on Tuesday. "You are not touching that good will because of the distraction of violence, the distraction of holding onto too much land which you had already been asked either through the Camp David accord or indeed through UN resolutions to give up for the sake of peace, he told Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090908/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictdiplomacyisraelpalesti

who decided you get to judge which african country needs weapons? do you live in Ethiopia? uganda? why with africa does the west get to decide what those africans need for their states?? you don't understand their situations, which is obvious since you just said an entire diverse continent doesn't need any weapons.. how the hell do you know? who appointed westerners to decide what africans need?

weapons makers sell weapons. color me shocked. every nation of the world does it, canada supplies ammunition to saudi arabia, etc. is this supposed to be something to be ashamed of? countries need arms. whether they get used in a moral fashion is on the purchaser not the seller.. is every one who sells beer accountable for drunk driving? is a knife salesman responsible when a husband cuts up his wife? is the world supposed to look on africa as a child? europe should decide for africa whether their armies need weapons, maybe some of this colonialist mentality lives on... every nation can buy weapons, but not those primitive africans right? canada can have guns, australia, asia, all of europe, america and latin america, but those blacks in africa are what, the only states in the world that can't buy weapons for their armies?? i suppose etheopia could try telling the somolis on their borders to play nice or they'll get big daddy UN to come and give them a slap on the wrist?

While Africa's people are hungry and destitute and in need of government help, Israel, as well as the US, rushes to sell the instruments of death to these corrupt leaders. Shame on the African leaders who are buying these weapons of death. Shame on those who are making blood money from these sales. What kind of a world is this when arms makers and dealers are allowed to profit from the misery of others? Not a good world one might say. As long as there is a profit from the making and selling of the instruments of death and destruction there will never be peace. Perhaps this is the goal of those whose profits are soaked in blood. If there is peace there will be no need for their horrible products.

of the money that the West has given Africa in the form of debt relief. "And He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." -- Isaiah 2:4 Israel is no more a state set upon Jewish faith and values than Al Qaeda represents the Muslim community.

it said the truth. And like so many even Haaretz regarded as being of the "left" is afraid of the truth. I regard their censorship of my response as a compliment. As we all know the truth will out in the end.

....the sad thing is: As a Swiss (and for most industrialised Western nations the same will apply) I can't even point with fingers at Israel. Our governement is pretty much the same scrupel- lous when it comes to the export of weapons, even into conflict zones. The only difference: We don't call ourselves a "shining light" to humanity....

Those that live by the sword will die by the sword; and the sooner the better.

Israel is only the 4th or 5th largest exporter of arms in the world. (USA, Russia, France and Britain are exporting MORE arms than Israel). NO ONE HERE mentioned that . The focus is on Israel. If there are no exports , there is no income, but that is what all the Israel bashers here want. Double talk at its best.....

Africa has enough weapons and Israel needs to find ways to make money without contributing to murder. We have many things to sell that are peaceful so lets sell them and leave murder to the Arabs, Americans, Europeans and Russians who excel at it.

The dirtiest most corrupt business on the planet and Israel wants to be a player,why? This is where the big bucks are made, arming the third world just like the USA had no problem arming Iraq, or Russia arming Iran or France and the UK arming who they want. Anyone seen the figures on how much is made selling death, I bet it's a lot more than selling life giving medical tech.

Israel selling Arms to Africa, while whining about Russia's Arms sales to Iran!

... and big-deals, because that that is too reminiscent of the subject of the litigation that awaits him... the temptation of mutual hand-shaking and hand-washing...

"peace lover" i.e. Israel hater, have you ever condemned Russia for shipping arms to Iran? Or Iran sending weapons of destruction to Hizbollah and Hamas? Of course not. Certain nations are arms exporters, Israel among them. For obvious defense reasons Israel needs to be militarily strong so the country has an advanced arms industry. That's why they are in a position to export arms. But of course your double standard of condemning arms sales only applies to Israel. Some "peace lover" you are. You talk out of two sides of your mouth.

Israel has to survive just like any other country,so if selling arms helps her to survive then why not. Like they say,if Israel does not sell then somone else will.

... so let him meddle around in 'peace' with arms selling... a guy has to work-for-his-bread... wonder who gets the commission in these deals...the guys who are accompanying him...?

Afraid that YOU will be FOUND to have been a POT calling the kettle BLACK, perhaps.

So WHO are you to MOCK Israel?

"And He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." -- Isaiah 2:4

...I somehow didn't think that was what the light among nations was supposed to be.

Lieberman our esteemed "Minister of Seagulls" has now become our "Fire Minister".

Instead of transferring technology to help alleviate poverty and promote self reliance the thug/settler travels to Africa to sell weaponry.

independant of the U.S. This is a very good sign. They can tell President Obama to "go to hell." We have our own shekels. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. Bye, bye. Salaam/Shalom