Jordan's king to Haaretz: Without two states, there is no future

There are a lot of UN resolutions that do not dictate the establishment of 2 states in Palestine. UN 242 is one of them. Instead it calls for Israel to withdraw from territories occupied in 1967 war. Israel is in violation of that resolution, that is why it is one of the basis for negotiations. UN resolution 181 establishes 2 states in the land of Palestine, one Israeli, one Arab. Security Council resolution 452 calls upon Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment , construction and planning of settlements in Arab territories. Security Council resolution 465 states categorically that any changes made in Palestine and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity. Those are the bases under which Abdullah, and every other national leader, demand a 2-state solution. Jordan was one of the Arab League nations that in 2000 recognized the State of Israel and offered a peace proposal. Israel ignored it.

In response to "No future Jordan State, response No.2. This is an interesting argument, natural if not instinctive, ... however, what would it look like if Israel had a new border with a Hostile Nation, namely East Palestine, ... please remember, the Hashemites strive to maintain a stable, peaceful country, and have done so for a long time. It saddens me to read some of the violent, and perhaps racists comments,... but i respect freedom of speech, ..... Finally, The king is right, lets live in peace, and pay it's price, whatever it takes.

Know something, son of Jabotinsky, I much prefer to be a dybbuk like late Prof. Jacob Talmon, or (may he live till 120) Prof. Zeev Sternhell - rather than be the wise guy you are. "Not only will the effort to annex the territories not provide security, it will weaken the capacity to protect ourselves from our neighbors' hostility and THE OPPOSITION OF THE NATIONS." From an Open Letter to then-PM Begin, 1980, by Professor Jacob Talmon (1916-1980), Prof of Modern History at the Hebrew U of Jerusalem. 1957 Israel Prize for Social Sciences. www.fmep.org/analysis/analysis/a-prophetic-message-from-the-past "The endless war that the settlers are trying to impose on us, which they need like fire needs oxygen, is endangering our future and fanning the flames of a new wave of hatred against Jews in the Diaspora. In creating a colonial reality here, the settlers are impeding the normalization of Jewish life. No normal society can flourish in the oppressive conditions generated by the settlement enterprise." Prof. Zeev Sternhell, former head of the Department of Political Science at the Hebrew U of Jerusalem, one of the world's leading experts on Fascism, and veteran supporter of Peace Now. 2008 Israel Prize for Political Science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeev_Sternhell

" ... crush the troublesome Palestinians, and forget world opinion." (DT) ... and win an Israeli prime minister seated on the same chair Slobodan Milosevic was last seen. Another wise guy who thought world opinion could be ignored.

"Jordan didn't want the west bank ... " (bar kochma) Very true. King Hussein, peace to his soul, was a clever man. Much clever, in this respect, than our leaders. "Take your Arab brothers back into your countries ... " (bar kochma) They never will, dummy. Why should any Arab leader do what Israeli leaders have desperately been trying to do for 42 years, as if stubborn dimwitted, meaning to try to subdue to their will - without much success, it appears - a foreign and stateless people prepared to fight for a homeland of its own? Take Hamas for instance, and think. If you know how to. Up to the outburst of the first Palestinian uprising (intifada) of 1987, no one had even heard the name. Today, this fanatical religious organization is in full control of the Palestinian parliament, and plaguing us with an Islamist enclave we cannot live with nor defeat. So tell me, what makes you believe that any Arab ruler would ever consent to relieve the Jewish state from this plague, and take upon himself a task in which we have so miserably failed? "We must either have a Palestinian state in our neighborhood, or we will become a Palestinian state." Yehoshafat Harkabi (1921-1994), IDF Major General, head of Israeli Military Intelligence (1955-1959), then professor and director of the Institute of International Relations and ME Studies, the Hebrew U of Jerusalem. www.answers.com/topic/yehoshafat-harkabi

Know something, son of Jabotinsky, I much prefer to be a dybbuk like late Prof. Jacob Talmon, or (may he live till 120) Prof. Zeev Sternhell - rather than be the wise guy you are. "Not only will the effort to annex the territories not provide security, it will weaken the capacity to protect ourselves from our neighbors' hostility and THE OPPOSITION OF THE NATIONS." From an Open Letter to then-PM Begin, 1980, by Professor Jacob Talmon (1916-1980), Prof of Modern History at the Hebrew U of Jerusalem. 1957 Israel Prize for Social Sciences. www.fmep.org/analysis/analysis/a-prophetic-message-from-the-past "The endless war that the settlers are trying to impose on us, which they need like fire needs oxygen, is endangering our future and fanning the flames of a new wave of hatred against Jews in the Diaspora. In creating a colonial reality here, the settlers are impeding the normalization of Jewish life. No normal society can flourish in the oppressive conditions generated by the settlement enterprise." Prof. Zeev Sternhell, former head of the Department of Political Science at the Hebrew U of Jerusalem, one of the world's leading experts on Fascism, and veteran supporter of Peace Now. 2008 Israel Prize for Political Science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeev_Sternhell

Know something, son of Jabotinsky. I much prefer to be a dybbuk like late Prof. Jacob Talmon, or Prof. Zeev Sternhell (may he live till 120) than to be a smart guy like you. "Not only will the effort to annex the territories not provide security; it will weaken the capacity to protect ourselves from our neighbors' hostility and THE OPPOSITION OF THE NATIONS." From an Open Letter to then-PM Begin, 1980, by Professor Jacob Talmon (1916-1980), Prof of Modern History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. www.fmep.org/analysis/analysis/a-prophetic-message-from-the-past "The endless war that the settlers are trying to impose on us, which they need like fire needs oxygen, is endangering our future and fanning the flames of a new wave of hatred against Jews in the Diaspora. In creating a colonial reality here, the settlers are impeding the normalization of Jewish life. No normal society can flourish in the oppressive conditions generated by the settlement enterprise." (Prof. Zeev Sternhell)

" ... crush the troublesome Palestinians, and forget world opinion." (DT) ... and win an Israeli prime minister seated on the same chair Slobodan Milosevic was last seen. Another wise guy who thought world opinion could be ignored.

"Jordan didn't want the west bank ... " (bar kochma) Very true. King Hussein, peace to his soul, was a clever man. Much clever, in this respect, than our leaders. "Take your Arab brothers back into your countries ... " (bar kochma) They never will, dummy. Why should any Arab leader do what Israeli leaders have desperately been trying to do for 42 years, as if stubborn dimwitted, meaning to try to subdue to their will - without much success, it appears - a foreign and stateless people prepared to fight for a homeland of its own? Take Hamas for instance, and think. If you know how to. Up to the outburst of the first Palestinian uprising (intifada) of 1987, no one had even heard the name. Today, this fanatical religious organization is in full control of the Palestinian parliament, and plaguing us with an Islamist enclave we cannot live with nor defeat. So tell me, what makes you believe that any Arab ruler would ever consent to relieve the Jewish state from this plague, and take upon himself a task in which we have so miserably failed? "We must either have a Palestinian state in our neighborhood, or we will become a Palestinian state." Yehoshafat Harkabi (1921-1994), IDF Major General, head of Israeli Military Intelligence (1955-1959), then professor and director of the Institute of International Relations and ME Studies, the Hebrew U of Jerusalem. www.answers.com/topic/yehoshafat-harkabi

Ryan said: He, Hosni Mubarek of Egypt, and other Arab leaders are just there to satisfy the interests of the US, Europe, and Israel. You really should say America being there to serve Israel's interests; it's the topic of the day in the US (In closed circles of course)?

Until when will the Israeli rely on American gladiators to ensure their continuity? WIll China sponsor them next? Will Israel self-destruct? Will Jordanian borders remain safe? Will Egypt remain hostage to Mubarak?

Indeed, from the comments here one concludes that one or the other will have to evacuate the region, the Arab region.

do u think if jordan become pals state, how much time do you think israel will survive? u will have hizbullah from north, hamas south, from east pals supported by al qaida through iraq , iran will be happy to spread threir rockets near u. you will be attacked from every direction and as you can see your army is not that good in street fights, couple of years iran will develop nuclear bomb, apparently USA is unable to do anything towards iran, iraq and afganistan. stop being stupid my friends

Jordan's king, Will do everything in his power to push for a separate Palestinian state. The main thing is to keep the Pales.from overtaking his kingdom. He doesn't give a damn for the Pales. He wants to preserve his Hashamite kingdom. No matter what. You don't see him crying & brooding even over the loss of Jerusalem which was under the thumb of his late father. The main thing is not to see the Pales.hovering over his land!

Your idol, Barak Hosein Obama, just received the Nobel prize, mainly for his kowtowing to the Muslims, Including Iran, which continually threatens the destruction of Israel Seems Obama has turned a blind eye to their pursuit of the Nuclear bomb, he'll talk and talk, and won't do zilch BTW- As others see you "In Jewish folklore, a dybbuk is a malicious possessing spirit, believed to be the dislocated soul of a dead person.[1] Dybbuks are said to have escaped from Gehenna (a Hebrew term loosely analogous to the concept of hell) or to have been turned away from Gehenna for serious transgressions, such as suicide, for which the soul is denied entry. The word "dybbuk" is derived from the Hebrew דיבוק, meaning "attachment"; the dybbuk attaches itself to the body of a living person and inhabits the flesh. According to belief, a soul that has been unable to fulfill its function during its lifetime is given another opportunity to do so in dybbuk form. It supposedly leaves the host body once it has accomplished its goal, sometimes after being helped.[2 Jordan is of minor consequence

"Sooner or later [the Palestinians] will either kill or banish him, and take over." (Issta) And from that moment, Israel's days will be counted too. Which is exactly why the US administration so much needs Israel: To ensure that no one takes over the kingdom. And also why the US so much needs the king: To make sure the survival of the Jewish state. Israel cannot survive for long without Hashemite Jordan, and vice-versa. You have just pointed, inadvertently, the finger at the very reason the White House is so adamant to save Israel from itself, before it is too late and the two-state solution is definitively lost. Got it? Or is that beyond the limit of your comprehension?

"Jordan or an arab state on the east bank of Jordan river and Israel on the West Bank. There, simple, now there can be peace." (Mark, the bright one) Not a bad idea, sir. How come nobody has thought about it? But if I may, ... I reckon there is a little problem. Pray tell, how do we convince some two and a half million Palestinian men, wifes, grandparents, sheep and camels, to cross the river - leaving behind houses, fields ands shops to the Jews? And the BBC and CNN not to show to the entire world "The True Face of Zionism"? Think, if only for this once, and please tell us.

"[Abdullah's] kingdom on Lands the British chopped out from the Jewish People in 1923." (Shmuelshachor) How can someone be so birdbrained as to rant about Israel having no common borders with Iraq and Saudia? Unless of course, he is a staunch anti-zionist. Good god, thanks for Jordan.

"We did not say that the '67 boundaries must be forever; it would be insanity." (Lord Caradon as quoted by Heat Heath) Yes indeed, insanity it would have been. But for a state that pretends to be civilized and democratic, to try, desperately, for 42 years, on land outside its sovereignty, to subdue to its will a foreign stateless occupied people, THAT, is insane. And, in the long term, for a country like Israel, suicidal. What other nations, much more powerful than Israel can ever be, have learned a long time ago, the Israeli leadership does not seem to have grasped yet, and that is that time is long past when an Army clashing, not with another Army but with a stateless people, could bring a definitive military solution.

"Israel's hands are tied behind its back due to the Goldstone Report." (Eitan) Think. If you know how to. There are many ways for Israel to defend itself against a Palestinian mini-state with no real army, with no free access to the sea, enclaved between Israel and Jordan, - without being accused of committing war crimes. "Would you take this simple step and do it, the King of Jordan?" (Eitan) He will not, dummy. He will not do what his father king Hussein never did, nor was ever expected to do. He wil not be the one and only Arab ruler to "recognize Israel's right to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people."

Two states or one state makes no difference if Israel treats the Palestinians as equals with full rights. My sense is that Israelies view themselves as a superior people thereby entitled to subdue the indigenous peoples. King Abdullah II knows fully well Israel has no intentions of being a just nation. All of Netanyahu's and Lieberman's spoutings are inflammatory.

No real democracy tries desperately, for 42 years, on land outside its sovereignty, to subdue to its will a foreign stateless occupied people. "The Six-Day War was forced upon us; however, the war's seventh day, which began on June 12, 1967 and has continued to this day, is the product of our choice. We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft, and finding justification for all these activities." in "The war's seventh day", Haaretz March 3, 2002, by Michael Ben-Yair, former Attorney General of Israel (1993-1996). www.seruv.org.il/english/article.asp?msgid=77&type=article

It would seem I hit a chord...not only can Israeli's not deal with 242 ..they do seem able to honour their signed agreement to the Road Map in 2003 where they agreed to a full settlement freeze including natural growth in accordance to the Mitchell Report. They also agreed that East Jerusalem was a final status issue. Fact is the only nation who sees the occupation and settlements as legal is Israel.....Funny that isn't it. Long live the treaty of Waitangi. New Zealand has a treaty...not an occupation.

Which nation has a GUARANTEE that their neighbors WILL want to live in PEACE. Such simple minded tomfoolery. However, we can virtually GUARANTEE for CK Tan , the inevitability of future wars and conflicts until such a time as Israel reconciles with Syria and the Palestinians. We can also speculate as to the stability of both the Egyptian and Jordanian [a largely Palestinian nation ruled by a Hashemite] regimes without a lasting settlement between Israel and the Palestinians. We can also be fairly confident that during the coming decades demographics will dramatically worsen Israel's position in 'Greater Israel' whilst also being fairly confident that Israel's single vital benefactor will endure a 'relative' decline in economic and political terms. So begging the question as to how Israel might be affected by these clearly signposted changes. Perhaps CK Tan would prefer to see Israel take its chances and place its trust in such an uncomfortable future. Perhaps wiser folks will see the writing on the wall before CK Tan wakes from his self satisfied slumber and strike out for peace BEFORE demographic and geo-political trends become distinctly less favourable for Israel.

"there are two kingdoms already, Jordan or an arab state on the east bank of Jordan R. and Israel on the West Bank." I agree, that's how it really is. Why haven't all your citizens got full civil rights? I refer, of course, to the Palestinians within these borders.

" british empire reneged on the BALFOUR DECLARATION !!" Try reading Balfour sometime.

Iain, Why don't you read 242. The Israeli withdrawal was conditioned on a peace agreement that resulted in recognition of Israel by all states in the area, secure borders, and an end of all claims against all states. The Arab world rejected all of those conditions and SCR 242 depends on a peace agreement. When SCR 242 was passed there were no settlements. It was passed within a week or two of the end of the 1967 war. I know you want Israel to withdraw without a peace, but that is just not in the cards. In addition, it is unlikely that the Jews will throw themselves into the sea. Last I heard, Israel won't disestablish itself and relocate to Alaska. Sorry to upset your reverie in occupied MaoriLand.

You wrote: "It's just not a democratic state." John Keane, perhaps the leading world scholar of the history of democracy in his recently published The Life and Death of Democracy, in the chapter on "miracle" democracies in unlikely parts of the world: "...in equally hostile surroundings, the new state of Israel founded in 1948...also featured...a strong independent judiciary, a free press and a robust civil society" (Norton, 2009, p. 650). Now Wright can send in another glib, uninformed post to that free press of which he makes such frequent use.

All, The UN SCR approved UNSC 1515 that recognized the 'Roadmap for Peace', recognized Jordan's renunciation of the West Bank and confirmed a State of "Palestine' in the West Bank and Gaza as the end game of Arab-Israeli peace negotiations. It did affirm that the result of the peace would be the 'end of all claims' which would end dreams of a Palestinian Right of Return to Israel proper if that is not in the Peace Agreement. 'The end of all claims' is probably the reason that Abbas is raising pre-conditions to negotiations that he never did before. The Palestinians cannot handle a final agreement that results in a sovereign, universally recognized Jewish majority state that won't accept 4 million Palestinians as citizens ready to vote Israel out of existence. They would rather continue the sorry status quo than give up their unreasonable dreams.

UNSC Res. 242 says: "(i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict" You say: "immediate withdrawal of Israeli troops from Palestinian territory". These 2 statements do not look identical to me. "immediate" is not there; "territory" is not there, and "Palestinian" is not there. In fact, the words "Palestine" or "Palestinian" do not appear anywhere in the resolution. Lord Caradon, a high ranking British diplomat at the time, said, "We didn't say there should be a withdrawal to the '67 line; we did not put the 'the' in, we did not say all the territories, deliberately.. We all knew - that the boundaries of '67 were not drawn as permanent frontiers, they were a cease-fire line of a couple of decades earlier... We did not say that the '67 boundaries must be forever; it would be insanity."

All, The pro-Palestinians have been predicting Israel's demise since before 1948. However, Israel's Jewish population has surpassed 5 million (now nearly 6 million). Few small countries with a similar homogeneous population have disappeared. Consequently, Croatia, Switzerland, Albania, Finland, Costa Rica, Armenia and Georgia will be here in 50 years. The only way for the Islamic world to get rid of Israel is to genocide the 6 million Jews there. Since is Israel is (likely) a nuclear power, there would be a nuclear winter before Israel is extinguished. The question is - will Israel be a micro-Empire including 'Palestine' or will Palestine be its own de-militarized mini-state like Kossova. I think Palestine will be set up. The Palestinians know that if they get sovereignty is one grain of sand, the world will forget them. The question is - will Palestine accept a mini-State and give up its own imperial ambitions (to drive Jews to the sea?

Which nation has a GUARANTEE that their neighbors WILL want to live in PEACE. Such simple minded tomfoolery. However, we can virtually GUARANTEE for CK Tan , the inevitability of future wars and conflicts until such a time as Israel reconciles with Syria and the Palestinians. We can also speculate as to the stability of both the Egyptian and Jordanian [a largely Palestinian nation ruled by a Hashemite] regimes without a lasting settlement between Israel and the Palestinians. We can also be fairly confident that during the coming decades demographics will dramatically worsen Israel's position in 'Greater Israel' whilst also being fairly confident that Israel's single vital benefactor will endure a 'relative' decline in economic and political terms. So begging the question as to how Israel might be affected by these clearly signposted changes. Perhaps CK Tan would prefer to see Israel take its chances and place its trust in such an uncomfortable future. Perhaps wiser folks will see the writing on the wall before CK Tan wakes from his self satisfied slumber and strike out for peace BEFORE demographic and geo-political trends become distinctly less favourable for Israel.

The Hashemite King of Jordan needs to take a good long look at the neighborliness he's offering to Israel. A neighborhood where Jews are told to stay off the Temple Mount. A neighborhood where Jordanian unions forbid any contact with Israelis. A system copied from Egypt's unions. A neighborhood where government officials offer to burn Israeli books, and then when their wishes are thwarted, go on an anti-Jew rampage. A neighborhood filled with "resistance" offering to kill us one way or another. A neighborhood that rejects the view that Israel is an independent Jewish state. Let us know when the welcoming committee can deal with us as equals rather than pushing their own hatreds on their neighbors.

Jordan is Palestine, Jordan is Palestine, Jordan is Palestine, Jordan is Palestine... You think pulling out of Gaza was a bad idea? Judea and Samaria must not be handed over to the enemy.

Actually, there is one state now. It's just not a democratic state. And that's the 'solution' Israel wants, and she intends to retain it. To retain it, the conflict has to continue, so the conflict will continue. Hence Israel's foot-dragging about negotiations.

Comments focusing on the past and the history of the conflict are not really helpful and ignores the questions the interview pose. What about the future, and where is the voice of reason in Israel?

It is extremely sad that none of the good readers managed to read and fully understand the meaning of King Abdullah's interview. It goes to say how short sighted most are. There will be war in which those who have not much to lose against those who have everything to lose. Ask yourselves who will win?! If war is what you wan, careful for what you wish for, for you might just get it. This tone of hatred and madness has historically proven destructive mostly to those who hold it. Take peace while you can and remember you have only been there for a little more than 60 years, whereas Arabs have been there... :))

...then we'll know we are moving closer to peace. When the King of Jordan speaks like this, it feels like someone is peeing on my leg and telling me that it's just raining.

King Abdullah wants to back to the good old days when Jordan occupied Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria. Then Jews would not be allowed in the old city, synagogues would be destroyed, Cemeteries defiled. That would guarantee a "just permanent peace".

Nothing guarantees peace and Security for anyone. Even the US can't "guarantee" that for itself. But the lack of self-determination for the Palestinians and continued refusal to recognize the legitimate interests of 1 billion Muslims world wide in the status of Jerusalem, guarantees that Israel will never live in peace and security. Is that the future you want for your children?

If you look at the Mandate borders of 1917, the Arabs have 80% of the land, the Jews 20%. Jordan which was called the East Bank before Jordan was created by the British. The East Bank was part of the 1917 Mandate borders, which the Brits gave away in 1923 to support the Hashamites in Saudi Arabia who supported the British in WW1. Afte the Hashamites were kicked out of Saudi Arabia, the Brits created the Jordanian state from the East Bank. in 1923. It should be worth noting, the British never created any Jewish state, but created an Arab state with 2/3 of the Mandate borders.

What i'm saying is, if Jordan never got involved in the 67 war and today controlled the West Bank and East Jerusalem, they would totally be opposed to giving away that land to the Palestinians. You know that as well as i.

So Abdullah says, "Walls eventually do come down." That certainly was the case when Jordanian troops tore down the Hurva Synagogue, wasn't it?

King Abdallah has is a little wrong, but then he still is King of Jordan. Reality now is much simpler, indeed. Jordan will disappear and part will become "Palestine state", then you will have a mini-state in Gaza AND Israel. A simple three States solution with peaceful borders.

because there are already two states, Israel and Jordan. The king just ignores this fact.

if i am not mistaken, jordan was created in what british called palestine

And what should we do with this fact you remind us of? Jordan did not allow a Palestinian state from 1948 to 1967? Given all that has changed since 1967, can you please clarify your point? I fear your point is: Abdullah, because your country sinned over 40 years ago, you have no right to an opinion? How productive of you.

Why didn't left wing Akiva Eldar bring that up to Abdullah. Jordan and Egypt had the lands during those 19 years and both opposed a Palestinian state.

Jordan launched unprovoked attacks on Israel and lost. Between 1948-67 Jordan did not allow Jewsih worshippers in the holy places and damaged and abused Jewish sites. So much for your dreams your majesty! And Jordan's future? Learn Hebrew, because the Israelis are going to save your skin. Without Israel you are doomed. While Israel gets Nobel after Nobel Prize, you are still 3rd world. Be smart, put your money on Israel

have you ever read it iain unscr 242 ? read the 1949 armistice treaty at the same time !

The regime the king heads has led to the loss of Palestinian rights. Now he and other rulers talk of peace but effectively side, protect and appease Israel. Durable peace cannot come unless Arabs and Muslims have clout and respect on the international scene. With existing rulers, suffering and injustice will prevail.

Resolution 242 called for the immediate withdrawal of Israeli troops from Palestinian territory and for settlements and occupation to cease.

breath. Netanyahu has already vetoed near everything on the agenda - no halt on settlements, no discussion of ROR, no to anything about E J'sem, ergo no point talking final borders. There's nothing left to discuss. Except of course Netanyahu's many preconditions - PA must do this and that, must recognise Israel not as Israel but as a Jewish state, Arabs must do x, y and z. Great, N. is obviously doing his utmost to get Hamas elected. He mumbles about helping the Pal economy instead but, two years on, still can't sign off on their mobile phone franchise and has done nothing re roadblocks, illegal outposts, criminal settler behaviour, etc. Obvious concIusion: Israel is NOT a viable peace partner. The King should read the Haaretz etc TBs and see how he and Israel's few remaining friends, allies or peaceful neighbours, are despised and ridiculed, complete with racist taunts, by the Jewish masses. His sensible route won't work with modern Israel. Time for the big stick Obama.

A One state Solution will see the demise of Israel if it maintains democracy. Demographically the Arab population is growing at a faster rate so Arabs will eventually rule in Israel and vote it out of existence. Apartheid would mean total world rejection and bring Israel down. Netanyahu would do best to honour his country's previous agreements as he stated and place urgent efforts into allowing a two State solution as expediently as possible unless Israel wants to come under more attacks and more International rejection.

by stripping Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship.They then go on to the list for right of return. Ereqat the Pal chief negotiator openly said they coordinate their negotiation stance with Jordan.

your attitude also will lead to distruction..make peace with your neighbors, nothing but good will come out of that, anything else is a recipe for conflict.

No future for whom? The Jewish people have been around for along time and will always have a future. The question is: Are the arabs interested in having a future or continue to live in the past.

Hey there King Abdullah -guess who already has the other State??!!! Your own country is full of so-called Palestinians (around 73%), so in your country we have the solution. Leave us alone in our tiny Jewish G-d given state. Jordan =Palestine. On a historical note -let us both not forget where was Palestine before 1922 and what was the world recognized Jewish State.

Israel's hands are tied behind its back due to the Goldstone Report, will not attack Israel with the full aim to annihilate it, either in a full-scale war or by stages and acts of terror? And if so, how about demonstrating such a commitment now and recognize Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, instead of joining the chorus of de-legitimizing Israel, demonizing the Jewish state and using double standards in the way it is approached by people of "goodwill" around the world? Would you take this simple step and do it, the King of Jordan?

There is no future with two states .Ultimately there will be war and then Israel has to crush the troublesome Palestinians and forget world opinion. Only then there will be peace

your type of attitude will lead the jews to another masada..the world will only take so much of your type of BS before they revolt..tread carefully brother.

jordan and egypt will be run by the muslim brotherhood! all is in place and when mubarak dies we will kill Abdullah and control both countries. we will rip up the peace with israel and go to war with her and burn tel-aviv and drive the jews into the sea!

The future looks great for US oil companies, US security firms (Blackwater, .... and others), US arms manufacturers & dealers, US construction companies, and army logistic providers. Furthermore, the US army has/will have a great opportunity to test all kinds of newly developed weapons. And the US warlords could not be more satisfied. Israel, Palestine, and Jordan are doing well, and their US masters are satisfied with the level of their governmental corruption. The future looks bright to me your majesty, because all what matters is: corporate America.

state is put in the west bank, jordan ruled by the foreign Hashemite Saudi Clan installed as a gift by the British will cease to exist and will become one country with the Pals which is what Jordan really is. Jordan knows that the settlements aren't the problem it is the Pal leadership which will overthrow the Jordanian government.There are 2 states and the others ruled by terrorist Hamas and nazi PA need to cease to exist once for all.

Hamas and Al-quieda have infiltrated "jordan"(a false country controlled by one bedouin family over a population of sunni arabs["pals"]) and sooner or later they will either kill him and take over or banish him and take over. Abdullah should ask if jordan will survive the next 10 years.

is no mention in it of the setting up of yet another state between the River and the Sea. And 242 of course has been a cornerstone and the basis for all negotiations and peace treaties since the June 1967 Six-Day War. So, on what basis may I ask the Jordanian King demands a "two state" solution, while incidentally still refusing to recognize Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people?

ab very dull jordan is palestine !!!!! look it up in the 1922 mandate !!

Do you really think Israelis will agree to become a minority in the country that they establised and fought for? dream on. One state solution means - after 20 years 80% pals, 20% jews. Israelis will NEVER agree to that.

2 state solution is a pure fallacy. Stop telling jokes. No Jew in Israel will accept the 2 state solution which will translate into 1 state with 22% Arabs (i.e. the current "official" Israel) and 1 state with a vast majority of Arabs (i.e. the occupied territories). In other words, Jews are set to become a minority everywhere. The only solution is a binational state with 2 parliaments, 1 Jewish and 1 Arab.

Given the real world positions of Israel and Palestinians, any agreement is nearly impossible. And since the status quo is not possible, when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

Palestinians are good for Jordan, Hussain should keep them. They have created at least two generations after 1948 when they sold their properties for a good sum of cash and moved to Arabian countries. Arab countries welcomed them to open businesses and invest the cash they brought from selling their property. Now,the King wants their desendents to go back to Israel. America has integrated millions of Arabian countries, while Arabian countries never grant citizenship to individuals from other Arabian countires. This is how they are living in stone age mentality. Arbian countries always were always racist even towards minorities in many ways.

The historic and natural connection in the middle East is with the west bank and Jordan. Why doesn't the King want to welcome his Palestinian brothers back into the kingdom? The answer is they would try and topple him, like they are fighting amongst themselves now. An independant viable Palestinian state, if it ever happens and is possible, will feud with Jordan , in any event. So the King should be careful of what he is wishing for. The two tragedies in life are not to get, or to get what you wish.

Haaretz to Jordan's king-there are two kingdoms already, Jordan or an arab state on the east bank of Jordan R. and Israel on the West Bank. There, simple, now there can be peace.

Jordan and Israel! Just messing with you Abdullah! Regards!

I don't think English or Hebrew speaking Jews will take this seriously until the Arabs tell Jews and their own people that 2 states means that one of them is an Israel that maintains its predominantly Jewish culture. Unless the Arabs remove their ambiguity to "2 states" there is no future to a 2 state solution. Jews won't take it seriously which is why it probably doesn't appear in the Hebrew Haaretz main headlines.

A rather harsh prophetic suspicious ultimatum, King Abdullah. Why didn't Jordan want the West Bank and Palestinians, and why is the King purging the Jordanian army of Palestinian officers even now? Why doesn't Egypt want Gaza as a province? The same reasons Israel can't do business with the Palestinians: they are feuding amongst themselves, striving for power, not democratic, repress women and minority opinion and would not be able to form a stable political entity. Even today hamas is encouraging a program of organized villification of Abbas, with shoe throwing at posters they plastered all over Gaza. Gimme a break. Take your Arab brothers back into your countries, let them out of their refugee camps, and include them in new democratic Jordan and Egypt, and forget fantasy constructions of one or two Israels.

Of course it is EASY for the king to SPOUT platitudes. But his OWN army BOMBARDED the pali camp and KILLED civilians WITHOUT hesitation when his country and people were THREATENED with TERRORISM. And NOTE that he is UNABLE to give any GUARANTEE that the palis and arabs WILL want to live in PEACE with Israel in return for whatever CONCESSIONS.

King Abdullah asks the most important question Israelis face today, even though they ignore it. What happens when the peace process fails? If Israel claims all the land between the Jordan River and the Med Sea, then what? Is Israel going to grant full citizenship to every human within that area, like the US did to Native Americans? Is Israel just going to round up all the non-Jews and truck them to the Jordan border or the middle of the Negav? If Israel doesn't either grant citizenship or ethnically cleanse the non-Jews, then how can there ever be any peace. Israelis, their children and grandchildren will have to live with constant low-grade war forever. How many people will want to live in a war zone forever? Keep in mind that the non-Jews could be much stronger militarily in the future and Israel could lose their last war. Then where will the Jews go?

Sitting in palaces and speaking of "glory days" of peace. He, Hosni Mubarek of Egypt, and other Arab leaders are just there to satisfy the interests of the US, Europe, and Israel. His silence during the massacre of Gaza speaks louder than any attempts at conciliatory words.

Little abdullah is right.Two states,separated by the Jordan River...Israel on the West and Jorpal on the East..B.t.w.he must to be reminded that his "kingdom"on Lands the British chopped out from the Jewish People in 1923,when the "noble" british empire reneged on the BALFOUR DECLARATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The path is too slippery. The world is mobilizing not for two states butfor one democratic (alas not Jewish only) state.The battle is shifting to BDS until Palestinian rights are realized. And it scares the heck out of all these impotent potentates

If there is no peace in Israel... it is only a matter of time before the Pals in the East bank rise up against thier oppressors and take over the country... The hashimites would be overthrown and Jordan would be redeclared as East-Palestien... As it stands today the majority of Jordan is Pal... Their population is only going to grow... This scares the king of Jordan, he desperately needs a pal state in the west bank; and he is willing to go to the break of darkness to achieve it...

Enough with Arab rejectionism, demonization, and threats. Come to the table, with no preconditions, ready for peace, or go home.