Jewish town won't let Arab build home on his own land

. . . expell flatus like this: "Jews can`t even enter most Arab villages in Israel proper, they would be lynched in a moment" Without even excusing yourself. You are either a propagandist or plain dumb and in either case have no manners.

Israel is a good example of a young country struggling with basic democratic concepts. There are strong opposing authoritarian forces that can only be neutralized by an active citizen's movement firmly committed to democracy, and without which, Israel's future will grow increasing problematic. Democracy requires full active citizen's participation, which strangely seems less in evidence as time goes on.

Arabs aren't the only ones who suffer as a result of Israeli policies. There are many Jews and ardent zionists who are now very ashamed of the country.......

My family bought land in the old city of Jerusalem, Hebron, Tiberias and Gaza in the 1880's we have the deeds and all the documents of prof of ownership, The property in Tiberias was sold about 50 years ago. Can anyone guess who occupy the land in the old city of Jerusalem, Hebron and Gaza? If my family would try to take back our land that has been owned by my family for about 120 years, the whole world will shout discrimination apartheid!!! Many other Jewish people bought land at that time but not one Jew was allowed the privilege and the enjoyment of their property. The tract of land in Gaza was especially large from what my grandmother was saying it was intended to become a big farm. Today terrorists bombard Israel from there. Before you let your heart bleed again better find out what the other side of the coin is! Yes we were shown fake document the Arabs had faked showing they have legal ownership. Our attorney suggested we send the documents to be carbon dated but they refused.

You claim the world can't just pick up and decide what they think is legal on someone else's land. Actually, we did that in the Nuremberg Trials. More recently, though, one might look at the example of the Serbs and Kosovo - they claimed the land was their ancestral homeland and religiously important to them, so they could do what they wanted. As you may remember, the world disagreed.

Mark Twain said that many nations have come and gone but the Jews have withstood the times. There is no proof that the Palestinians are from the Canaanites and Frankly Abraham was from the time period of the Canaanites and the Land of Israel was given to the children of Isaac while other land was given to the children of Ishmael. Jews have documented proof that they are connected to Abraham and more recent King David.The world can't just pick up and decide what they think is legal on someone else's land,nor can they decide whether it is legal for the Israelis to run this land.Had the Palestinians really wanted a state they would have 1. taken the partition in 1918 2. fought the british and made a country beforehand-what's the excuse then? that is a good 30 years before the State of Israel..3. why didn't they fight with the Jordanians in the years 1949-1967 to get back the land they want so bad now.4. Why didn't they take their half in 1947? 60 percent of what Israel has now was not pal

"But you don`t see that reported - Jews can`t even enter most Arab villages in Israel proper, they would be lynched in a moment." Isreali's are occupiers" and are forbidden thus by International law to build homes and take land of the occupied. If you want equal treatment for the Isreali's in Arab towns then Isreal must annex the West Bank, which would mean that all Palestinians would become Isreali citizens. Isreal would quickly turn into a democracy with an Arab majority. That is why the Isreali politicians are now pushing for a two state solution.

"... has no right to build in WB(in which they had lands before 48 war)" No Israeli civilians lived in Palestine before 1948 "Arabs have no right to buy and have legal buildings in Israel after 48!" Arabic Israeli civilians have a right to build in Israel. Conflation - try looking it up in a dictionary

Mitzpe Kamoun is not a town..it is a small village on top of a mountain

ael is a racist state. Israel is a racist state. Israel is a racist state. ...

Your argument implicitly justifies putting Jews into ghettos. We here in the US had places which had covenants which forbade Jews living in the communities. We made such covenants illegal because they were wrong and a violation of human rights. Under your rules, they should be legal, and people should have the right to exclude Jews.Do you really want that? If it is wrong to be done to Jews, why isn't it wrong when done by Jews?

I grow very tired of hearing the same line trotted out: others do it, so why should we be taken to task to it? A question: you disapprove of other countries doing it to Jews. If it is wrong to be done to Jews, why isn't it wrong when it is done by Jews?

about Israel's legal system before you can claim to make 'informed' comments. You will learn that there is no law in Israel, that states that every citizen is equal before the law, a most important principle. I suggest you read "Apartheid Israel" by Uri Davis, who will explain to you the legal foundation of Israel's apartheid system. Also read Jonathan Cook's "Blood and Religion. The Unmasking of the Jewish and Democratic State". These are eye openers, but I doubt whether you are at all interested in them. If you fail to see the structural discrimination to which Palestinian Israelis are exposed it is because you actually do not want to.

From the information in the article it seems like Suad is getting shafted. Suad claims that his family has been living on that land for generations. All that his family has managed to construct on that land over generations is a shack. Since 1997, it sounds like he has had enough money to pay for his own road, housing, connection to utilities, sewage, etc. He must be rich now. It also sounds like Suad can freely move around in Israel to meet with local government officials, so he must be an Israeli Arab. On the other hand, what happens when Jews try to live near "Palestinians" in the west bank or, formerly, Gaza. They have to be protected by walls and the IDF. How well do Jews obtain building permits in Jordan, Syria, Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, etc? Jews are either not allowed to live in those countries and were expelled or are brutally repressed. The article is short on facts and long on empathy.

Uh "Moshe" from "Haifa" (as I truly don't beleive that you are a Jewish guy named "Moshe from Haifa")the vast majority of Palestinans that left pre-state Israel in 1948 did so without ever having seen an Israeli soldier. Recently, even Mr.Abbas admitted that his family fled Safed without ever having seen an Israeli soldier. The Arab High Command issued such blood thirsty promises about how they were going to slaughter all of the Jews mercilessly, exagerated Jewish battles into "massacres", then instructed the Arabs to clear the battlefields for the advancing seven Arab armies, BUT when it looked like there might be a Jewish victory many more Arabs fled out of fear that the Jews would do to the Arabs exactly what the Arabs had promised to do to the Jews. The worst enemy of the Arab people has always been the Arab leadership.

If arabs are "second class citizens" here, then the Aboriginees are nothing but third class citizens in Australia, the land of the "White Australia Policy" and "Stolen Generation". They are treated with absolute contempt by the average white Australian, they have had their children stolen in the past, have been killed off in Tasmania and still have a life expectancy that is thirty years less than that of white Australians. The arabs in Israel are not disadvantaged in any way by Israeli policy and are afforded greater freedoms than their arab brothers in neigbouring arab countries.

Firstly I know first hand what a nightmare beucracy can be and how it can take a very long time to do just the simplest things at times. Everywhere you look there is red tape The ILA they really are bad, when I bought my apartment and had to get it registered with the ILA it was not simple Also the arabs & jews both have a ghetto culture and want to live amongst their own and their communities naturally try to keep the other out. In areas like the Galilee or towns like Jaffa where arabs are the majority they try their best to keep jews out Some small jewish communities want to keep arabs out Both sides have hated each other from before 1948 - present day. The whole arab/Israel conflict is because arabs feel there is no place for a jewish state in the ME certainly not the Holy Land In this case It was 99% ILA beucracy but I am sure the fact that it was an arab so there is no good will and desire to want to sort it help cut red tape Israelis beurucrats dont like to help anybody

but i thought Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, it is based on judeo-christian values, is a western civilization, has law and order, is humane and morally upright, is a light upon all the nations.....i guess I was wrong

israelis behave better then most nations during both war and peace.compare our conduct of wars with the nations that now fight in afghanistan. and with those that fought in iraq. look at our borders.sudanese immigrants try to cross our borders to work here.egyptian soldiers shoot them while our armed forces try to stop the killings. the palestinians who have lived with us prefer our laws to those of their brethren. your abuse tony silver is best taken elsewhere.

Like Ben Alofs I have a Palestinian friend who lives here in the U.S. Upon her death his grandmother left 5 acres of land to him and to his relatives living in Israel. Through her life the Israeli government would not permit grandmother to build on her land, not even a shed. A few years ago a neighboring Jewish village took 1/3 of my friend's land for sports purposes. Then the village wanted to extend a road so they took more land. Neither he nor his family received even one shekel for the land stolen from them. I was with this man when we went to see our member of Congress who was disturbed at what she was hearing. Sadly, she said, she could do nothing about the situation but would certainly keep it in mind. What Israel is doing reminds me of early days in the U.S. when Jews could not buy or rent in certain areas. As jews my parents fought this racism. I see no difference from what Israel is doing but in Israel the discrimination and racism is far worse and more extensive.

Thats a great answer. TOwl head and go chase a camel. Now just in case you didn't know that is raciist. Being a JEW myself, I wouldn't want anyone coming to me for no reason whatso ever and calling me a penny pinching hoooked nosed cheap skate and telling me to go chase the pennies down the road.

You posted: "remember the partition of real palestine which included Judea samaria gaza Israel and jordan. british without the consent of Jews decided to give %70 of palestine to jordan! they didnt ask the UN just got a pen and drove straight line...partition of pal 1948 is just a part of the partition! arabs lost the land given to them because of their own idiocy by attacking israel. not by Israeli agression but because of their brutal attack against the newborn helpless state with weapons left by brits!" First of all where did you learn history? At the Zionist Institute For Racism? My God, you have a twisted sence of reality. The real fact is that the Palestinian people were driven out by force by Menahem Begin and all of the Jewish terrorist groups at that time. They beat up, shot at and did what ever it took to drive the defenceless Palestinians out. You need to re-educate yourself Dave.

This has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism or terrorism apologists. This is an Israeli citizen who has not been accused of anything connected to terrorism. It is pure, unadulterated racism. In no decent country would anyone defend such practices. No decent country treats people differently based on their race. Certainly, this would never be tolerated in Australia. The fact that you can't even understand this puts you in the same moral league with neo-nazis (not the WWI Nazis) and the KKK. Race distorts all you see and all you think. To someone so steeped in racism, everyone that does not share your twisted views appears to be anti-semitic.

Really ?? But they could build ON TOP of some 500 + destroyed ones, could they ? And ever heard of Biram and Ikrit? Maybe Ein Hod AKA Ayn Hawd ? If not, you urgently need to do some research! David

Read Moshe's (#3), who is so full of hatred he lacks compassion and dismisses an arguement because the other person is a "towel-head" and he should "go chase a camel!". Is this Judaism at it's finest? Or just Israel's version of Judaism? Did Israeli Jews erase their memories of pre-Israel life? Why does Israel continue with this and then repeat mantra "we have no one to make peace with"?

From what you say, I take it that Jews can't move into Palestinian villages becuase the people there would react aggressively. This is bad, but not the same as the government enforcing racism. It is hard and takes a long time to change the hearts and behavior of people, but the process cannot even start as long as racism is institutionalized. No country in the world should do business with Israel or Israeli companies until legal, institutionalized, racism is eradicated. I grew up in the US south before and during the civil rights movement. I have watched my own country struggle and fight, with the government eliciting harsh reaction from some for refusing to continue racist practices. The law has to change first. Unfortunately, Israelis dont seem to see a problem with racism against non-Jews, but God help anyone they think is being racist to a Jew. Racism is racism. It is no better or worse depending on the race of the actors.

This is a fascinating article in that it is so slanted as to be meaningless butit is the "knee jerk-allways hating on Israel" cooments tht are most fascinating . For starters,its obviously NOTHING like "apartheid" as it appears that the claimant, Suad, has full access to the legal system. Then, his claim of title needs to be looked into not simply accepted at face value as "land theft" via fraud by Palestinians isn't impossible either i.e a situation where grandfather sold the land to Jews in the 1920s and grandson now falsely claims he still has title to the land. And of course, it is also common for Palestinian to simply not recognize or accept Zoning laws. Every community has Zoning. Despite the accusative nature of the biased article, it also doesn't seem like this dispute is resolved or completed anyway, so all this whining is quite premature. This is just another classic Haaretz "hit piece."

It has gotten away for decades with racist acts of displacement, lying, false acquisitions.

You posted: "jews has no right to build in WB(in which they had lands before 48 war) Arabs have no right to buy and have legal buildings in Israel after 48! they have that right but when jews build homes in WB its illegal? isnt it racism?" It is racism, but this is pure Israeli democracy. If the situation was reversed it would be called anti-Semitism by all around the world. But we all know that no pro-american leader will dare criticize Israel, they would be regarded as anti-Semitic. What a shame it is to see that no one even attempts to do anything to stop Israel's crimes.

It is indeed not a good thing when a community (Not Israel or Jews in general in that case)discriminate aainst someone for any reason. There are many Arabs in Israel who build on their own land. There are also incidents like this for which we are not proud of. However your comment mentioning - Tribal Mentality - for all Jews is uncalled for as you always do and indicative of your discriminating behaviour.

This discrimination is what the Palestinians can expect if they are forced to accept a "one-state solution". Of course, with the passage of years and the higher Palestinian birth-rate and increased Israeli emigration, a Palestinian majority in the "one-state" would change the situation dramatically.

This exposes the lie that arab Israelis are treated fairly. In no western democracy is a person stopped from building on his own land - on which he pays taxes, because of his race. This is an outrage that reveals the hateful core of Israeli society and law. Israel is, considering this event, a racist state by definition. The EU and the rest of the world not seemingly under the thumb of Israel (like the US is) must stop doing business with Israel and begin divesting government funds invested in all Israeli companies. It worked in S Africa, it will work here. One can have different opinions about Zionism and even the rightful disposition of the West Bank, but when the law openly discriminates against admitted property owners and citizens based on race, there can be no defense. No longer can distinctions be made between Israel and pre-reform South Africa. Racist states should not be permitted to participate in the community of nations.

Posted: "this is not a jewish town. this is israeli town". Regardless if this is a Jewish town or an Israeli town. If this town is located on lands that belong to the Palestinians, it will be one day a Palestinian town. No matter what you or I or any settler or anyone else says it is.

It seems that the best thwe Israeli apologists can do is to say-yes, we discriminate-but other countries are worse. And this is true, Israel is probably more of a liberal demaocratic state than Zimbabwe. Mazaltov!

....but I'm just not aware of the "fact" that Mr. Suad wanted to build the highest building in the world in that Jewish town. His only "fault" was to have the wrong ethnicity.... ....a child of a lesser God, so to speak. P.S. Yes, those, who supported the anti-minerats initiative are leading Switzerland in the wrong direction (which doesn't mean that there are no problems with fundamentalistical Islam).

remember the partition of real palestine which included Judea samaria gaza Israel and jordan. british without the consent of Jews decided to give %70 of palestine to jordan! they didnt ask the UN just got a pen and drove straight line which created jordan a non existing virtual country! than they decided to divide the part they promised to jews too. partition of pal 1948 is just a part of the partition! arabs lost the land given to them because of their own idiocy by attacking israel. not by Israeli agression but because of their brutal attack against the newborn helpless state with weapons left by brits!

among some of the reasons i cant truly love Israel...

You said: "The project was killed. Trump build soething else there." I'll repeat it: "Trump built something else there" Mr Suad is not allowed to build anything on the land he owns. They even want him to remove the shack he set up to prove that he's a "fact on the ground" (that's what it's called in occupied territoryspeak). Re Switzerland, an enterprising gentleman in Lausanne built a minaret on his shoe shop last week. We'll see how minarets do in Switzerland when they are separated from mosques, hmmm?

And Jews wonder why there is a rise in anti-semitism in the world? The Israeli, or "Jewish" (illegal)settlers and the government which allows them to "settle")are to blame. So, don't think that there is something inherent in non-Jews's make up that makes them anti-semitic; rather it is these activities and attitudes of many of your respondents which foster anti-semitism. And this trend will continue in the world until Israel ceases its occupation and disbands all such settlements and withdraws unconditionally to the Green Line. If not, then maybe "Pastor" Heggee is right, there will be the second coming.

Tony first many countries have a "law of return" nobody calls it racist, except for Israel. As you here: Scroll down http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/SaudiArabia.html When it comes blatant exclusion by religion the countries that surround Israel are far more racist. Yet you reserve your hollow moral indignation just for Israel. Save it, your just an old fashion Israel basher. What Israeli laws bother you and why? Just because you post a website with some laws in Israel means nothing. What is about each of those laws that bother you and why would consider them unfair. Be specific, I'm curious.

It was divided without the consent of the Palestinians into 51% to the Jews and 49% to the Arabs, Muslims and Christians. with some littles wars here and there, it became 78% to the Israelis and 22% to the Arabs, Muslims and Chritians. Now on the 22% of the Arabs/.Christians lands, the Israelis want more lands for the settlements, Private roads, Check points,Roads Blocks, the so call Security fences Towers, the Dancing/Zigaging Walls. As you can see this is the Peace Process in the style of "Talking and TAKINGS"

jews has no right to build in WB(in which they had lands before 48 war) Arabs have no right to buy and have legal buildings in Israel after 48! they have that right but when jews build homes in WB its illegal? isnt it racism??

The next step is keeping out the "wrong kind" of Jews; say, secular or ultra-Orthodox. Protect Mr. Saud and you protect the "wrong kind" of Jews.

Syria and certainly Saudi Arabia do not pretend to be open secular democratic soicities and hold themselves ups as beams of enlightenment. Israel is not despotic and it is not South Africa-yet. But it is a misnomer to call it a "democracy" in the sense that Western Eurpean countries are democracies. That it is not. It is an ethnocracy and should have the integrity to call itself such. Non-Jews cannot and will never be equal to Jews in all senses in Israel as it is presently configured and the majority of the population likes it that way and feels it has the right to treat Suad as it does because he is a non-Jew and giving in to him will set a precedent which zionism cannot allow.

What a horrible thing not to born a settler?

It is democracy at work. Sometimes it is a little bit cumbersome but this is how it is. 2 examples: 1. Many years ago Donalt Trump was planning to build the tallest building in the USA at the West side of Manhattan at a lot he owned - or pledged to buy I am not very sure now. New Yorkers in th eleadership of then alive jackie Onassis Kennedy objected to the project in the basis that it would cast a shadow over Central park. The project was killed. Trump build soething else there. 2. In your country - as you very wellknow- refently the people voted not to allow minarets to be build on Islamic mosques. Shall I accuse the Swiss people to have tribe mentality which may not be good for you at all?

It seems pretty obvious that all the red tape is designed to influence Suad to give up his claims to his land. Reminds me a lot of the Jim Crow era I grew up in.

Israel has many laws which openly discriminate against non-Jews. You can?t call Israel a democracy if it has one law for one person and a different law for his/her neighbor. Check out some of your laws which discriminate in favor of Jewish people and remember that if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it?s a DUCK! http://www.divestmentproject.org/apartheid_laws.shtml

the poor man said: "We didn't invade the plot and we didn't take over the land," Suad says. "My grandfather has been here since the Turks. We have a land registry document proving ownership of three acres." shame on the action of the children of Shoa.

And our tax $$ support this blasted country!

He should stand in line. Suad you see is an Arab, a non-Jew, and hence is not wanted, not looked upon as a full citizen and is seen as nothing more than a foreigner who is in a position to set a precedent which the zionists cannot permit. Same thing with te overt racism practiced by the government over Baram and Ikrit. This is once again, a glaring example of why Israel is in its core a racist state, posturing as a democracy when in fact it is an ugly ethnocracy and should have the guts to say so instead of perpetrating this myth.

publicitystunt? Hardly. He's definitely not the first Israeli Arab who experiences something like this and he won't be the last! Yes he makes some publicity now, but that's not going to help him one bit. And as for your Wouldn`t it be wise to move where he is welcomed? Ah you mean outside Israel. That would be ever so convenient wouldn't it? This is the essence of discrimination. But you are obviously too ignorant to take notice!

Just another example of Israeli perversion of Judaic traditions of truth and justice. These are zealot Jews who do not represent the faith I know. Until Israel can reconnect with the tenets of the Jewish faith, it does not represent the Jews of the world nor should it receive the support of the world's Jewish community.

speaking for myself alone i quote shylock "i will not pray with you and i will not eat with you"

yes it is ok within limits: 1 you may hate us. 2 you may bad mouth us 3 you may keep us out of your clubs but you may not repeat 1939-1945.the last is not a plea.more like a friendly warning.

no david, this is what Zionism has always been.

Gosh are you people nuts. So there have been zoning issues. It's not the end of the world. Stop feigning moral outrage you look stupid. Are there race issues? Who knows? There simply isn't enough information. All we have here is a story told by a Palestinian and the official response ( which explains zoning issues). As usual the Israel haters jump on this as proof of Israel not being fair therefore they don't have a right to exist. Stop it! Here in the U.S. the Government has been known to seize land from private citizens it goes to court, makes the news but people don't run around calling the government racist. Bottom line, this story proves nothing without more information.

Oh Brad, Don't be so dramatic. Israel isn't as bad as all that. They allow more freedom to Arabs than you imply. Surely they are not as despotic as Syria or Saudi Arabia. I grant you that I cannot specify a scale or spectrum of "apartheid." I am not able to discern exactly how much difference in treatment constitutes apartheid but Israel is not that far down the progression of oppression yet. I think the Multi-Nationals should stay. Peace. Stephen

This guy has property deeds going back to the ottomans....he's legitimate and the process is screwed up.

....nothing but trouble in the past. Please try to break away from that (rather unfortunate) attitude, believe me, it is no good for you at all....

Actually, Jews own quite a bit of land in the north of Jordan, especially around Irbid, it simply is publicised too much. Quite a lot of factories too in industrial towns like Sahab.

Of course its extremely difficult for Arabs to move into Jewish neighbourhoods. For good reason, Jews feel in mortal danger around Arabs. This isn't a fabricated, paranoid feeling. Its based on experience of violence and hatred. This isn't to say that all Arabs are violent and hate Jews but rather its impossible to differentiate. Having said that, see my earlier post which suggests that to the extent that racisim explains the lack of permit, it is not only unacceptable but contrary to Israeli law. But to the extent that Mr. Suad has not provided the necessary documents required by planning law, documents that are commonly required throughout the world, that is simply too bad for him. I would like to see this issue investigated by an impartial group, just as I would like to see an international panel investigate the Jewish diaspora out of Arab countries and current Arab national policy that target Jews.

I couldn't agree with you more John. The multi-nationals should move out of all Arab lands. Those places are far worse than aparthed. In that despicable regime blacks were at least permitted to live on some land. In so many Arab countries, after stealing the land from Jews, laws were passed precluding them from buying those lands or any lands back. Good on you John for recognizing that evil and despicable regimes that exist throughout the Islamic world.

If the present vision of Zionism is to deprive the other, this Jew wants no part of it. And one wonders why Israel is more frequently viewed as a rogue state.

If you want to be honest, it was not too long ago when Jew3s were forbidden to buy land in places like Greenwich, Connecticut, or Coral Gables, Florida, to name just a few cities which were "restricted" And Jews are now forbidden to build in Israel. The man was told to submit plans to get a building permit. That is customary in all towns. (I had to get a building permit to upgrade the electrical connections in a house I already own. And then the work had to be done by a licensed electrician and approved by a city building inspector.

- The Arabs in israel have been subjected to continuous discriminating policies that aim at depriving them of their all basic rights. more than 90 percent of their lands were confiscated and they now live in surrounded villages and town. The world should act soon to end this!

If you blow up and scream apartheid every time you find something difficult, it just makes you look like an idiot.

So the fact that Jews cannot buy lands in these countries(as you say) justifies israel partaking in the same discrimInation? Again, a third grade approach and line of rationale. It's time to grow up.

Oh, you didn't like the ghetto either? Israel is a democracy. Or so it says. In a democracy, a human being has basic rights. Like being allowed to build on land that belongs to him. Like living outside ghettos in a situation where everyone has the same rights. If people on Mr Suad's land don't like it, it is they should be offered alternative accommodation on land that they have legally acquired. Or they could just move to one of those hilltops you know where. You just need to plonk yourself there and the infrastructure follows automatically.... might not be for very long, but still.

True, discrimination on base of ethnicity and religion is not apartheid, but why is it acceptable to some people? Anti-Semitism is not based on race, so is it OK?

This is not an isolated case, but a kind of demographic policy to restrict Arab growth. If an Arab owns a plot of land on the outskirts of Taibeh, he will never receive a permit to build, and will finally end up selling to a Jew from the neighboring community of Kochav Yair who will receive permission immediately. Fact.

Jews may have existed before Muslims (and Christians for that matter too) but people existed in Palestine long before the Jews. The Palestinians are the descendants of all the races and nations which have lived in and conquered Palestine from the times of the Canaanites to the British occupation of Palestine in 1918.

i remember that old bush was living in comunity with condition: no jews, blacks or catholics. why everybody was quite accepting that?

The real hypocrites are those who call themselves a democracy, "a light unto the nations" ... Oh no you're right Jerry, those are called liars ... By the way, nice comparing Israel to obscure regimes such as Saudi Arabia ...

The jews don't want the arabs living in certain jewish naighborhoods and its the same with arab attitudes to jews. Alot of arabs say that the jews have no right to live in the Galilee or Negev. On more than one occasion the Galilee arabs have demanded a quota on the number of jews who will be permitted to move to the region. In Yaffo the arabs try to keep jews out of the town because arabs are the majority and do everything possible only to sell property to to other arabs & demonstrate if jews plan to build homes there. Jews & arabs have always hated each other and there are no evidence that will change anytime soon so they like to live amongst their own. Trying to turn this into a morality issue won't change feelings that they both have and it won't change the fact they don't want to be living next door to each other. Jews & arabs are equally responsible for the hatred and the fact neither wants to live with the other. Maybe in time that will change but for now thats reality.

Suggest you consult a dictionary. PS Geert Wilders is doing rather well vote wise isnt he? Any ready slogans for that?

build and they do. Can you say the same for Arab countries.?

I know several Palestinian Israelis, who are fighting the same fight against the apartheid state. My dear old friend Ali in Sakhnin struggled for many years to build a house on his own land in his town, but was thwarted in the same way as Aadel is now. Under Israel's apartheid legislation 93% of the land is out of bounds to non-Jewish citizens. Under the government's drive to 'judaize' the Galilee everything is done to accomodate the Jewish communities (mitzpim), while at the same time the natural growth of Palestinian communities is throttled. It is extremely difficult for Palestinians to move into Jewish neighbourhoods (new and old). While these are encroaching on Palestinian towns and villages the local authorities (in Ali's case Mizgav Regional Council) forbid Palestinians to build on their own land. Ali in the end created his own fact by building his own house. He has been punished by jail terms and draconic fines, but his house still stands. One man's struggle against apartheid.

This is how Israeli Land Ownership generally works, with "terms" and dates and land which is owned, only being owned for a fixed amount of time. Most countries have some sort of Eminent Domain, including yours, in fact, Australia is one of the worst in terms of not requiring fair compensation. The key is, to be able to handle the necessary paperwork. Ranting and rioting and thinking that because you are an Arab somehow the law does not apply to you, is counterproductive.

they included several black cubans.their immigration was not a problem.this is not a race issue.it is a wish of jewish people to live among their own.anyone can join.

This just seems like incompetent Israeli bureaucracy. In a real first world country, this man's situation would've been helped? You need piping etc? Money is the answer. :)

If you're not Jewish, your land is a target for the Israeli Landtheft Association.

or any other business that doesn't want to be associated with apartheid.

their wishes are not based on race for there is no jewish race.it is however based on faith and similar beliefs.why are we not allowed to live with those who share our faith. in south africa blacks were condemned by their appearance.we in israel have chinese jews indian jews arab jews russian jews tunisian jews persian jews singapore jews argentine jews as well as brazilian jews.you want to join the jewish people?please convert.

an arab cant build home in Isr in a jewish town. in WB before the jordan occupation there was jewish towns who belong to jews it was not stole was paid. 'the settlements' today were those bought lands from wich they hve been forced to leave. so if an arab buys land an can build in isr a jew that buys land should be able to build there. if not why complain about apartheid in isr when it clearly exists more in WB. an israeli jew cant make home there cuz its against intl law but an israeli arab can! what kind of intl law is it isnt it racist???

we do not however do it out of ill feeling towards others.it is not the outer appearance of others that bothers us for we in israel vary from white europeans to black ethiopians. we do not keep out others because of skin colour.rather we wish to have neighbours that have the same faith and culture. we want our children to marry into the faith. i understand that is not wholly defensible but that is the reality.

Right now they are making it harder for Jews to build homes more and more on their land as well and this is the case on both sides of the "green line". Welcome to the club it is nice to see one Arab who actually applied for a permit.

Completely disgusting. Civilised world should do something about the situation in Palestine.

As to your statement and those of many others here. I disagree totally with the denial of Israelis of all religions to live together as one. It is amazing that should a Jew Arab or Druse were to live in the same apartment building or neighborhood in the US Canada or England we would not have the explosive problem as we have here. Living in Israel there are some neighborhoods where Jews and Arabs have lived together. It is the continuing animosity caused by outside and religious sources that ruin our aability to live in peace. Yes the idea of the displacement of families seems terrible Yet why single Israel out? Can Jews own homes in Arab countries? Until the hatred stops and neighbors learn that together life can be good there will be discrimination on both sides.

we gave some land adjoining the road on our property to the city when they widened the road, what's the big deal? He can build in time. But the bigger question is why would he want to? Wouldn't it be wise to move where he is welcomed? This seems to be a publicity stunt, knowing what he knows, why bother if not for sympathy from those who know better? It's Israel lands and he is a stranger from the enemies camp. As they say, 'foget'bout it."

Jews are by law NOT allowed to own land in Jordan, Syria, Saudi, Kuwait, Libia, Qatar, Malaysia.... so, may the hypocrits please calm down

"Jewish country" won't let Jews build on their own land.

All of your countries have an underclass that blame you for their failures and call it racist when you refuse to lower the bar. You will all learn the meaning of "Apartheid" when your countries fall and your future rulers, the very people you argue on behalf of today, make you Third Class Citizens. We are not the only people who are routinely expunged from Middle Eastern States. Lebanon, Turkey and many parts of Serbia and India and Africa are being Expunged of your kind as we speak. So too shall the rest.

Ok, it is probably the infection of anti-Arab racism in the Israeli state system and of its people, that causes thing like these. But Jack Khoury forgot to apply one of the most basic rules of journalism: asking both parties involved about their position. He should have reported the reaction of the Misgav Local Council to the claims of mr Suad. If they refused such a reaction, Khoury should have mentioned this in his report. The strength of this news report has been deminished strongly because of this failure. And that is very sad, because it most probably is (another example of) Israeli discrimantation against non-Jews.

and allow their Palestinian Arab brothers freedom to live work and grant citizenship to those who were born in their countries. ""The Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront to the UN and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders do not give a damn whether Arab refugees live or die", -- Ralph Galloway, former head of UNWRA, 1956"

In the West Bank a handful of youngsters can put a portakabin or two on a hilltop they do not own, without any of the infrastructure supposed to be essential for building rights, and lo and behold, within a few weeks electricity, water and access roads make their way there automatically to a fact on the ground; whereas here, within the green line, you have to have the infrastructure before you can set a stone on your own property? Eretz nehederet! Dear Mr. Suad, Go to your ground, put up a portakabin. Be a fact on the ground and test it out. Hopefully our newly awakening other voices will be there to help you to make this point. It can't go on like this. You will win out.

obama and congress's support for this entity is shamefull and counter productive to world peace! And it underminds their credibility in all matters! i.e. Iran

To hear us officals brag about israel being this great democracy in the middle east drives me crazy when one reads of the everyday reality of Arabs and other non Jews and Jews that are not white for that matter! The Israel Land Administration needs to be taken to court in the Hague! For all the land it stole from the native people of PALESTINE!

I am not saying that this is right.. but... There are quite a few stories of Arabs squatting on land that Jews HAVE DEEDS for and WON'T MOVE or PAY RENT!!! Jews are just as much native to this land as Arabs and if one side did not want to completely destroy the other then we could all live here together in peace. 60 percent of what is now the State of Israel was arrid desert and according to The Land and the Book: Southern Palestine and Jerusalem" published in 1882 there wasn't much settlement in this land. Oh and another thing... who says that the Turks legally occupied this land? If their occupation was not legal are the deeds legal?? or is the word "illegal occupation" only meant for israelis?? Who says that the Muslim invasion was legal either? They were squatters on JEWISH LAND. Judaism existed well before the Muslims and the land was Jewish well before it was muslim. Nobody has the right to make a statute of limitations on that.

No building restrictions in say Canberra recquiring certain basic facilities to be on hand before building permission is granted? Sure there are no Arabs living and working amongst Jews in Israel?Supreme court judges doctors members of parliament? You sure you know the meaning of apartheid?

"The land was divided into two plots. Suad and his family, who have been living in shacks on the site, were not informed." OK, unfair, but... OK... but he still OWNED that land after it had been "rezoned", right? Right? "Only one plot was owned by the family" W.T.F.?!?!?!? The Israeli authorities can take ownership away from him simply by rezoning the land???? Still, he ended up still owning the one-third they left him, right? "the planning committee finally gave the construction permit, under four conditions: Suad would promise to demolish his shack, the future house would be moved by some 12 meters, Suad would contribute a part of the land to public needs," What?!?!? He has to "contribute" even MORE of his land if he wants to build? That's E.X.T.O.R.T.I.O.N. Not so much a "government" as a bunch of East End standover merchants....

From the the headline to the predictable talkback responses from the terrorist-apologists, this reeks of Anti-Semitism. So what if one arab is refused a building permit, it would probably be used as base to attack Mitzpeh Kamon; since when has saving Jewish lives been racist or apartheid?.

trying to paint this 'poor' arab family like this there are huge towns way larger and more organised that any of the misgav towns. This is a mere plan to try to 'prove' this is an apartheid state which anyone who lives in Israel knows it is not. A jew would be stoned if he tried to buy a home in an arab town in the north.

If an Arab sell land to a Jew in most Arab countries the penalty is death, even in Jordan.

Local authorities can refuse building permits certainly to the enemy

But you don't see that reported - Jews can't even enter most Arab villages in Israel proper, they would be lynched in a moment. Israeli law allows small communities to have criteria to live live there, so they can maintain a way of life, Jewish families are also often rejected, but you dont hear about those, only when it is an Arab family because "racism" makes such a great headline, especially on Ha'aretz which often seems to be aiming to demonize Israel

and what would you say about other arabs and palestinians who lost their homes in the 1948 war and now live in refugee camps shaks or in rent, and even after these people's properties being confiscated, there's no feeling of guilt of anyhow but more greed and racism. the question is when it will be enough?

These poor people are unfortunate to be in the position of being whipping posts for a people who have been discriminated against. They are taking it out on a people who are unable to fight back. Its pretty sickening. They have all these antisemetism laws to protect them so they figure they can do anything they please. They can always shout that its antisemetic to criticize them. Its not just the settlers because average Joe Israelis know about all this stuff thats going on. Its all of them allowing this to continue.

They say they want peace. It is obvious.

'A land without human beings, for a people with land.'

If that's not grounds for sanctions against Israel, I don't know what is.

"a light onto the world" "the only democracy in the middle east" "the most moral army" "israel is NOT an apartheid state" "we want peace, they dont' if we repeat this enough time, we will beleive it!!!!

How many of the defenders of Israel who post on this site would be comfortable with another nation doing this to a Jew? Does anyone expect that to change their attitude toward Israel the slightest bit?

Israel presents itself to the world as a secular democracy, where people of all religions have equal rights. But in reality, it's just a theocracy that discriminates against anyone not Jewish, especially those who follow the religion of Islam.

Over 50 years ago when I moved to Norfolk Virginia I was shocked to see signs on Restaurants that read "Colored and Sailors Served at the Rear." "My grandfather has been here since the Turks. We have a land registry document proving ownership of three acres." - Aadel Suad So what? It would be far different if Suad were Jewish, but he is an Arab and that is all that matters.

Permits cannot be conditioned on racial discrimination and even expropriation cannot be informed by the theory of lets buy out the Arabs, in primarily Jewish towns, or lets buy out the Jews, in primarily Arab towns. Having said that, it is completely permissable & normal to require owners of private lands to pay for connection to infrastructure. If Suad was in fact told that he shouldn't waste his time that he would be held up for 30 years, whoever told him that should be investigated and disciplined. But Suad has to meet his obligations, including providing a detailed plan for connection to infrastructure. The level of detail must be what is ordinarily required, no less no more. And, of course, when building occurs, inspection must confirm adherence to the plan.

Are there no administrativ courts in Israel?

The guy once owned 3 acres of land, but the State "rezoned" it, and divided it into 2 plots? A 2 1/2 acre plot went to the ILA, leaving Suad with only 1/2 acre of his original 3 acres? And he can't build on it... What a crock of.....

Whatever else, I would have thought that all of us, any Jew, any where, any time, would be sufficiently sensitized to prejudice so as to reject it. Or, is it prejudice only when it happens to us?

Apartheid all but in name. Keep it up Israel, slowly the deluded world is waking up the nightmare you have put in place. While settlements continue to grab Palestinian unabated, Palestinians can not build on their land. Land titles that older than the Israeli state are being rejected while the same titles can easily be claimed by Land grabbing Israelis even though the Palestinians can proof and do proof ownership.

Barak be a Man and tell these Jews those days are over! From now on, everybody gets a fair shake!

"My grandfather has been here since the Turks. We have a land registry document proving ownership...Oh really..how about the ownership documents bought from the arabs and "turkeys" at hugely inflated prices back in the late 1800's and early 20th C.-special prices for the Jews-when the arabs accept those then perhaps this towel-head's document might have some weight. Otherwise, it should be, "Go chase a camel!"

this is not a jewish town. this is israeli town.

Not surprising. The Arabs of Israel are second-class citizens under the Israeli apartheid regime.