• Published 02:37 10.03.10
  • Latest update 05:54 10.03.10

Israel to soon publish 'Palestinian incitement index'

Index will measure level of incitement by tracking PA broadcasts, statements and textbooks.

By Barak Ravid Tags: Benjamin Netanyahu Salam Fayyad Israel news Palestinians

Israel is to begin officially monitoring incitement in the Palestinian Authority and will periodically issue a report on it, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee last week.

Netanyahu also decided to appoint Brig. Gen. (res.) Yossi Kuperwasser, the former head of Military Intelligence's research department, as government coordinator for incitement in the PA.

"We will set parameters by which to measure the level of incitement," Netanyahu told the committee. "People must know exactly what is happening on this issue, because for a peace agreement, education toward peace and acceptance of Israel are needed."

The main focus of the monitoring process will be whether inculcating a "culture of peace" becomes part of PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad's plan for building the institutions of a Palestinian state. "This should not wait until the day a state comes into being," a senior Israeli government official said.

Israeli officials involved in monitoring incitement in the PA concede that there is almost no crude incitement of the type common under Yasser Arafat. "There are fewer expressions of open incitement to terror, but there is encouragement of a violent atmosphere," one official said.

The "incitement index" will be produced by monitoring broadcasts in the official PA media, statements and actions by senior PA officials and textbooks, a senior Israeli official said. All of these will be examined for incitement, encouraging an atmosphere of violence and/or manifestations of anti-Semitism.

The senior official said the index would be published in the Israeli media, and an international diplomatic campaign would be launched to pressure the PA into preventing incitement and educating toward peace.

Netanyahu adviser Ron Dermer is pushing the project in the prime minister's bureau, and two months ago, he complained to the White House about the PA's incitement against Israel. But Kuperwasser, who is currently deputy director general of the Strategic Affairs Ministry, will be the point man on the project.

According to a senior Israeli official, Kuperwasser will coordinate the monitoring efforts of various bodies, including Military Intelligence, the Israel Defense Forces Spokesman's Office, the Foreign Ministry, the Shin Bet security service and the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories. All these bodies worked on the issue extensively in the early years of the second intifada, but over the past five years, this work has declined to a minimum.

Kuperwasser himself was very active on the matter of incitement in the PA, especially at the beginning of the second intifada, when he was the IDF Central Command's chief intelligence officer.

Under the previous government, efforts to monitor incitement declined, in part because the incitement itself was greatly reduced as a result of progress in the peace process. During the talks that followed the Annapolis Conference in November 2007, a task force assigned to deal with the "culture of peace" was able to make progress on making changes in textbooks.

But Israel was outraged recently by the PA's plan to name a square in Ramallah after Dalal al-Mughrabi, one of the terrorists who perpetrated the coastal road massacre in 1978, in which 37 Israelis were killed.

The square is to be dedicated tomorrow with senior PA officials in attendence, and Information and Diaspora Minister Yuli Edelstein has asked Netanyahu to approach the American administration about stopping the event.

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  • 79. 0 0
    Great Idea
    • Sharon
    • 11.03.10
    • 18:54

    This is a great idea. And a similar site should be established to monitor the Israeli media and educational institutions. Another great idea would be to renegotiate membership in the UN to include a commitment to teach tolerance in member nations' educational institutions.

  • 78. 0 0
    JOHNBOY"PA TV sermon:The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet
    • PETER SM
    • 11.03.10
    • 11:07

    PA TV sermon: The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet says "kill the Jews" Source: Palestinian TV (Fatah), Jan. 29, 2010 A sermon calling for the genocide of Jews broadcast by PA TV, which is under the control of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas: "Oh Muslims! The Jews are the Jews. The Jews are the Jews. Even if donkeys would cease to bray, dogs cease to bark, wolves cease to howl and snakes to bite, the Jews would not cease to harbor hatred towards Muslims. The Prophet said that if two Jews would be alone with a Muslim, they would think only of killing him. Oh Muslims! This land will be liberated, these holy places and these mosques will be liberated, only by means of a return to the Quran and when all Muslims will be willing to be Jihad Fighters for the sake of Allah and for the sake of supporting Palestine, the Palestinian people, the Palestinian land, and the holy places in Palestine. The Prophet says: 'You shall fight the Jews and kill them..." http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=571

  • 77. 0 0
    JOHNBOY"PA TV sermon:The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet
    • PETER SM
    • 11.03.10
    • 11:07

    PA TV sermon: The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet says "kill the Jews" Source: Palestinian TV (Fatah), Jan. 29, 2010 A sermon calling for the genocide of Jews broadcast by PA TV, which is under the control of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas: "Oh Muslims! The Jews are the Jews. The Jews are the Jews. Even if donkeys would cease to bray, dogs cease to bark, wolves cease to howl and snakes to bite, the Jews would not cease to harbor hatred towards Muslims. The Prophet said that if two Jews would be alone with a Muslim, they would think only of killing him. Oh Muslims! This land will be liberated, these holy places and these mosques will be liberated, only by means of a return to the Quran and when all Muslims will be willing to be Jihad Fighters for the sake of Allah and for the sake of supporting Palestine, the Palestinian people, the Palestinian land, and the holy places in Palestine. The Prophet says: 'You shall fight the Jews and kill them..." http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=571

  • 76. 0 0
    JOHNBOY"PA TV sermon:The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet
    • PETER SM
    • 11.03.10
    • 11:05

    PA TV sermon: The Jews are the enemy of Allah, the Prophet says "kill the Jews" Source: Palestinian TV (Fatah), Jan. 29, 2010 A sermon calling for the genocide of Jews broadcast by PA TV, which is under the control of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas: "Oh Muslims! The Jews are the Jews. The Jews are the Jews. Even if donkeys would cease to bray, dogs cease to bark, wolves cease to howl and snakes to bite, the Jews would not cease to harbor hatred towards Muslims. The Prophet said that if two Jews would be alone with a Muslim, they would think only of killing him. Oh Muslims! This land will be liberated, these holy places and these mosques will be liberated, only by means of a return to the Quran and when all Muslims will be willing to be Jihad Fighters for the sake of Allah and for the sake of supporting Palestine, the Palestinian people, the Palestinian land, and the holy places in Palestine. The Prophet says: 'You shall fight the Jews and kill them..." Enjoy the rest Johnboy http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=571

  • 75. 0 0
    And,stupid Johnboy,why was the PLO founded in 1964?
    • Hastaroth
    • 11.03.10
    • 11:01

    In 1964,Gaza was under Egyptian control and the WB was under Jordanian control. What did Arafat want to "liberate"?Because,as far as I know,the PLO never attacked Egypt or Jordan during that time,its only attacks were against Israel.

  • 74. 0 0
    #63 Easily aswered, Stephen
    • Johnboy
    • 11.03.10
    • 10:29

    S: "Why does the PA still calls itself PLO?" Because they are two different organizations, even if Abbas is the titular head of both. The PLO is an umbrella organization for many separate Palestinian political parties (Fatah being, of course, much the biggest) and it is also the recognized representative of the Palestinian people. The PA is much less than that, being merely an interim authority that grew out of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO i.e. it is a placeholder where Palestinian politicians can practice the art of government while the infrastructure for a future Palestinian state is being built up around them. Think of it this way: 1) The PA only represents the interests of Palestinians in the West Bank and (though not currently) Gaza. 2) The PLO represents the interests of all Palestinians everywhere, *including* those who are in refugee camps in Lebanon, or Syria, etc. Those are two different (even if overlapping) things.

  • 73. 0 0
    Stephen 63 List of Irgun civilian murders. Bibi praises terror
    • Michael
    • 11.03.10
    • 10:10

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks There you go mate, bombs in markertplaces, on buses, on a train, in a cinema. Happy now? These are Likud's heroes and by bringing up Jewish kids to think these idiots are heroes, is huge incitement against Arabs. It's the kind of reason 50% of Israeli kids don't think Arabs should have equal rights to Jews in Israel.

  • 72. 0 0
    It's more worrying what's being taught to Jewish kids
    • Michael
    • 11.03.10
    • 09:50

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1155627.html "Poll: Half of Israeli high schoolers oppose equal rights for Arabs" There's obviously been quite a lot of incitement going on there.

  • 71. 0 0
    israel's doing this is "incitement" in itself! (2nd try)
    • eric
    • 11.03.10
    • 07:03

    and why is it doing it? "an international diplomatic campaign would be launched"... PROPAGANDA! yeah! but shhhhh! hush now! no international campaign to expose all the crimes, indignities, harassment, injustices, oppression ,et al, that the palestinians are forced to endure at the hands of israel and its settler infested idf and security forces, or the settlers themselves.... in accordance with: OFFICIAL ISRAELI POLICY! yeah! shhhh!

  • 70. 0 0
    Israel Incites
    • Vladek
    • 11.03.10
    • 06:38

    Israel incites through its oppressive policies and practices. Palestinians react as a powerless people that have been pushed into a corner. The Incitement Index should be used to demonstrate Israel's effectiveness in stripping Palestinians of their dignity. It is absurb the extent to which Israel will go in covering-up its abandonement of Jewish values and pay homage to incompetent, zealous leadership.

  • 69. 0 0
    What about the Israeli 'incitement index'?
    • Maureen Ann
    • 11.03.10
    • 06:30

    "Uphill battle to provide prosthetics to Gaza war injured." GAZA CITY, 10 March 2010 (IRIN) - A half-finished two-story building in central Gaza City is one of the few places providing support to amputees, most of them civilian victims of the Israel-Palestinian conflict, as they try and come to terms with their injuries. Ten patients were waiting to see Dr Hazem al-Shawwa, the director of the Artificial Limb and Polio Centre, when IRIN visited. Mostly young, they had been caught in the violence of Israel?s 23-day assault on Gaza at the end of 2008 and beginning of 2009, and were still learning to use their new prosthetic limbs. ?We have 250 new amputees following the Israeli war to add to the 5,000 cases we had before the war," said al-Shaawa. Israel's blockade of Gaza has interrupted the supply of the import of prosthetic limbs and raw materials to make them. (Read the full article) http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=88378

  • 68. 0 0
    tyranny will change into tyranny
    • NV NV NV NV
    • 11.03.10
    • 05:30

    with many decent palestinians around, still no decent leadership in sight--------- compulsory education in N.V. is the solution.....eventually, a NV palestinian leader may surface.....the rest will be easy......

  • 67. 0 0
    Settlements promote peace. PA promotes apartheid
    • David
    • 11.03.10
    • 04:44

    And Eurabia and US supporting PA apartheid. Jordan Palestine already has kicked out all native Jews and illegal to be citizens or own land. PA/Hamas is doing the same thing. Why does the world support this apartheid? Jews are not dhimmis to others. E Jerusalem is traditionally Jewish. stop supporting the illegal ethnic cleansing of Jews from Jerusalem. Look up the census. Jerusalem was Jewish majority or plurality, not Arab Muslim. Does Haaretz dare to print the truth? Cancel Palestine. Create Peace. 2 states, Israel and Jordan Palestine.

  • 66. 0 0
    What is Palestine??????? Do you mean Jordan?
    • David
    • 11.03.10
    • 04:40

    Afterall, the only internationally recognized Arab Palestinian state is Jordan Palestine. Never was an Arab Palestinian state on the West side of the Jordan and never will. Mostly, because the Arabs dont want one.

  • 65. 0 0
    Peter SM And the Irgun etc..
    • Stephen
    • 11.03.10
    • 02:35

    They faught the British.They did not strap bomb belts to murder children and innocent civilians.Anyone who may know more than myself please feel free to inform me. The distorters and hateful inciters of Israel are the ones who come here high and mighty with their view points which are never true because it would tarnish their usual false accusatins perpertrated by them,and by doing so will lose their credibility. By agreeing in an honest way. But,they do not..for the simple reason they need the Israeli scape goat.

  • 64. 0 0
    #46 SDHD's "demonstrable cases" (2nd try)
    • Johnboy
    • 11.03.10
    • 02:26

    SDHD: "Do you believe (as does johnboy) that demonstrable cases of incitement are myths as well?" I really do need to point out that the first requirement of a "demonstrable fact" is that it be "demonstrated". I have already asked SDHD to step up to the plate and "demonstrate" his "facts", and he has conspicuously refused to do so. Indeed, he appears to be insisting that everyone must accept his "demonstrable cases" as an "article of faith", because he certainly isn't making any attempt to "demonstrate" them. Which leaves me with two possibilities: 1) SDHD does not understand what the word "demonstrable" means, or 2) SDHD is an abusive little gutless wonder who lacks the courage of his convictions. Which one is it, SDHD?

  • 63. 0 0
    To the both of you Peter SM & Johnboy A question?
    • Stephen
    • 11.03.10
    • 02:24

    Needing an answer: Why does the PA stil calls itself PLO? I would have thought this was during Arafat's time,and now Abbas should change its name by calling itself Palestinian Authority. That said the new steps taken by the Israeli Govt to monitor the "Palestinian incitment index" without delay and not before time. I did say on the few occasions I have come here,that the PA is no different than Arafat's time. After all they were cut off the same cloth.And continue to administer their hateful propaganda. Enough said.

  • 62. 0 0
    #14 Cynic
    • Mike B
    • 11.03.10
    • 02:23

    "The whole of Palestine is a Muslim trust (Waqf)" a)Define Palestine b)give evidence of the providence of your claim.

  • 61. 0 0
    #1 Canadian hypocrite
    • Mike B
    • 11.03.10
    • 02:01

    Land theft, like the white Europeans stealing the land from the First Nations?

  • 60. 0 0
    #5 Egalitarian state?
    • Mike B
    • 11.03.10
    • 01:57

    An egalitarian state? Like Saudi Arabia for example?

  • 59. 0 0
    SDHD - I call it like I see it
    • Paul
    • 11.03.10
    • 01:31

    I do not and never denied incitement on the Pals part. But to hold Israel as an innocent bystander like most of you do is not only denial, it's ignorant and moronic... My only denial has been the Jews claim to the land by G-d. Like I said I call it like I see it, and the last I checked, there is no G-d hence nullifying all and any of their claims. Now who is the moron? Paul the one who uses his eyes and mind, or SDHD who believes in fairytales, easter bunnies, leprechans and the like. Please fool.

  • 58. 0 0
    Sam Soul on danger
    • SDHD
    • 11.03.10
    • 01:30

    "The palestinians ARE in danger, not you." Palestinians are most certainly in danger, and they continue placing themselves in danger. Does blowing up public places and launching rockets into Israel create a safer environment for them?

  • 57. 0 0
    #46 Such a laugh!
    • Johnboy
    • 11.03.10
    • 00:58

    SDHD: "Do you believe (as does johnboy) that demonstrable cases of incitement are myths as well?" These being the "demonstrable cases" that SDHD won't actually "demonstrate" even after I had asked him to step up to the plate and do so. Polemic, disguised as argument, and wrapped in invective. That's SDHD for you.....

  • 56. 0 0
    #45 It's like arguing with a frog on a hotplate
    • Johnboy
    • 11.03.10
    • 00:54

    It's far too busy hopping from one foot to the other to put up a cogent argument.... SDHD: "Johnboy, simply because you are unaware of recorded events, widely viewed, doesn`t constitute a fallacious argument on my part, or myths of incitement." One more time: *if* Israel is only now monitoring the Palestinian Authority for incitement *then* all of Israel's previous complaints can have no standing. SDHD: "You argue about what you don`t know" bzzzzzzzzzzt!!!! W.R.O.N.G. I am arguing about WHAT ISRAEL HAS NOT BEEN MONITORING, not about WHAT I HAVE OR HAVE NOT SEEN. As in: if Israel has not been monitoring this then its complaints can have no standing. SDHD: "If you were smarter," !!!!!!! You don't understand what I am pointing to, SDHD. You don't have the wit to understand my arguments. You. Do. Not. Have. A. F**king. Clue.

  • 55. 0 0
    #30 PSM "knows" because he "knows"
    • Johnboy
    • 11.03.10
    • 00:42

    PSM: "The racist filth and incitement is there in the public domain for those who do not wish to wonder around with their eyes shut tight." It's quite remarkable, isn't it, that someone like PETER SM still has the chutzpah to use the "but, but, but, everyone knows!" excuse, when it is obvious that a) such a claim requires ***evidence***, and b) this announcement is an admission that Israel does not possess that evidence. You insist that you "know" because you "know", even as you admit that this is a conflict where truth is the first casualty. But only the other side, hey, PETER? Heavens no, not your own side..... P.a.t.h.e.t.i.c.

  • 54. 0 0
    Selling house to Jew=Death Penalty!
    • nethanel
    • 11.03.10
    • 00:12

    This current Palestinian law reminds me Germany 70 years ago, and the eerie silence by self-called human rights and peace groups. On the other hand, to be fair, also Israel discrimnates Jews just for being Jews: entry to the Temple Mount is restricted for Jews in general and religious looking ones in particular, currently no building rights for native Jews in their home towns (100.000 Jews in the 2nd and 3rd generation are natives no settlers, and the the placing of big red signs in the entry to PA area that the entrance is forbidden for Israelis, although Israeli Arabs are allowed, even encouraged to visit there. I feel the middle ages are still alive! Also, give grant full citizenship for all Arabs in Yhehuda& Shomron on condition that they accept the Jewish state and openly oppose incitement. We do not need separation wall in the center of our Jewish homeland.

  • 53. 0 0
    Is this a joke?
    • American
    • 10.03.10
    • 23:46

    Is this a joke?

  • 52. 0 0
    #Rose by a different name
    • Yaron
    • 10.03.10
    • 23:25

    Eww you got them all right . They didn't print your diatribe, those evil Jews...I mean Israeli fascists.

  • 51. 0 0
    Didn't take long
    • Ki'emli
    • 10.03.10
    • 23:09

    There could be bad press about Palestinians and the libero-fascists on Haaretz have to make efforts to carp and complain so that they can try to stifle it, albeit vainly. Now we'll have a more detailed and organized list of psychotic Palestinian versions of Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, and whatever cartoon character they want to pervert. And we'll have explicit exposure of those cartoon showing fictional Israeli soldiers cutting out peoples' hearts or whatever sick propaganda Hamas dreams up and that libero-fascists will swallow.

  • 50. 0 0
    Israel to publish "Palestinian incitement"
    • Beverly L.
    • 10.03.10
    • 22:48

    It is long overdue. I do not know why Israel does not play the same game as the PA and threaten to pull out of talks every time the PA incites violence.

  • 49. 0 0
    Blah Blah Blah
    • Observer
    • 10.03.10
    • 21:56

    Blah Blah Blah to both sides. Infants.

  • 48. 0 0
    Go ahead and monitor the Israeli government
    • Lee
    • 10.03.10
    • 21:54

    The amount and severity of incitement won't even come close to the PA's.

  • 47. 0 0
    The echo between johboy's ears
    • SDHD
    • 10.03.10
    • 20:52

    Johnboy wonders whether incidents of Palestinian incitement are myths. I list a handful of them. Johnboy pretends to be unaware of them, and uses his lack of awareness to refute known, widely viewed incidents. The funniest thing about it is that he tries to come off as though he's so knowledgeable.

  • 46. 0 0
    Paul's "intelligence."
    • SDHD
    • 10.03.10
    • 20:25

    "The term `intelligence` used alongside Israel and SDHD are oxymorons." That's okay. You're just a regular old moron. Do you believe (as does johnboy) that demonstrable cases of incitement are myths as well?

  • 45. 0 0
    The echo is between johnboy's ears
    • SDHD
    • 10.03.10
    • 20:22

    Johnboy, simply because you are unaware of recorded events, widely viewed, doesn't constitute a fallacious argument on my part, or myths of incitement. You argue about what you don't know, and claim that because you don't know what you don't know, your argument is sustained. If you were smarter, you would have looked up the list of incidents I mentioned and done some research before demonstrating how much you really don't know.

  • 44. 0 0
    To Sylvie #41 'Where`s the Israeli Chutzpah Index (ICI)'
    • Colin Wright
    • 10.03.10
    • 20:18

    You can't meaningfully scale something that appears to have no upper limit. After all, in the last few weeks we've had a leader of the Knesset castigating the US for 'insulting' Israel with a mere vice-presidential visit, an obituary in which credit is proudly claimed for helping to instigate the 1964 massacre of Zanzibar's Arabs, that farcical thuggery in Dubai, and the deliberate humiliation of Joe Biden. That's just a routine month on Planet Israel. What WOULDN'T Israel do? That's what I ask myself sometimes. How could you have a scale? It's not even rational anymore. It's like watching somebody who's had a few too many drinks.

  • 43. 0 0
    How about a settler hate Index
    • Fed up
    • 10.03.10
    • 19:28

    How about an Israeli settler Index? You may start with settlers in Jerusalem singing the praises of the terrorist Goldstein.

  • 42. 0 0
    Promote a culture of peace
    • Joe
    • 10.03.10
    • 18:57

    while the occupation and the settlements expansion continues is a little premature . It is kind of putting the cart before the horse. A reaction to " occupation" can never be incitement , but it is a rection to serious provocation , and who in Israel is measuring that.....

  • 41. 0 0
    Where's the Israeli Chutzpah Index (ICI)?
    • Sylvie
    • 10.03.10
    • 18:12

    Really, Bibi, Liebermann et. al. provide us every single day with acts and statements which demonstrate the staggering double standards of political Zionism. We complain constantly of things that we ourselves do without batting an eyelid. Let's have the Israeli Chutzpah Index (ICI) and soon!!

  • 40. 0 0
    SDHD
    • Paul
    • 10.03.10
    • 18:08

    The term 'intelligence' used alongside Israel and SDHD are oxymorons...or you could simply use the suffix and that would be fitting as well.

  • 39. 0 0
    To JO
    • Sam Soul
    • 10.03.10
    • 16:58

    Amazing blindness and lack of honesty !! You're not facing reality and like to victimize. That's your problem. The palestinians ARE in danger, not you. Keep that in mind and you'll understand. But i'm already expecting too much.

  • 38. 0 0
    To Petra
    • Sam Soul
    • 10.03.10
    • 16:10

    How's your post suppose to help ? You don't even know one single palestinian but you give yourself the right to speak and spray out lies ? This IS incitement Petra but you don't even realize it. Pathetic and shameful.

  • 37. 0 0
    Don't stop the event. Write and publish the details
    • JO
    • 10.03.10
    • 15:51

    The heroes of the PA say a lot about it. There may be in Israel a tiny group who glory in such men - like Baruch Goldstein_ but by far the majority do not and there would never be a public square in Jerusalem named after him. He was a murderer to us and their is no glory in that, only shame. The big difference between us and the reason we can never totally trust the Palestinians, their heroes are those who glory in the murder of us.

  • 36. 0 0
    Incitement? Bah. I believe what Fatah says!
    • Brian Cohen
    • 10.03.10
    • 15:50

    Oh you mightily ignorant talkbackers! Woe be to you who sticks yon head in the sand (or up some other dark and dank place) instead of learning the TRUTH. Ah yes, the truth. The immortal truth. The painful but sweet and sinister but honest truth. Here it is: http://www.e-fateh.org/paper_full_3.aspx Simply pop the link into the Google Arabic-English translator and voila! The TRUTH!!!! And, of course, the truth from Fatah does not include peace, nor a two-state solution. Darn. I thought it was in there somewhere. But truthfully, it ain't. What's there? What are Fatah's words? OHMYGAWD!!! Well, waddles like incitement, quacks like incitement, and smells like incitement, then, well... I guess it IS incitement. Here's just one of the many gems: "Article (12) - total liberation of Palestine and the liquidation of the Zionist state economically and politically, militarily and culturally." Well, duh!

  • 35. 0 0
    MICHAEL the Irgun never called for the destruction of Britain
    • PETER SM
    • 10.03.10
    • 15:21

    And I did not try to praise them. I am pointing out the difference between the aims of the Irgun and the" peace loving Palestinians "as it seems oblivious to some. Who is asking the Pals to tell their children how lucky they are? This is about preparing the next generation of Pals to hate and reject by their government. It is 016 here busy day at work tomorrow,good night

  • 34. 0 0
    # 31 michael
    • yerushalmi
    • 10.03.10
    • 15:06

    Who is the hypocrite?the one that called the IRA terrorist,and supported the UVF,UDA,and UFF. The UK left their mark with the gun in the ME,Africa,Asia.......Half of the glob's current conflict is the results of the brits occupation, and divide and rull policy. Do you like the incitement of your Muslims in the mosques of London,or any other city in the UK?do you understand that too?.sorry mate,but that's the truth.

  • 33. 0 0
    The death knell for lame Pal excuses
    • The Prophet
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:58

    The Pals support their demand for a settlement freeze by reference to the 2003 Road Map. But the Pals "at the outset of Phase 1" of the Road Map must first comply with the following: "All official Palestinian institutions end incitement against Israel." Hasn't happened. MEMRI has records of reams of the most vile racist incitement being pumped into the heads of Pals regularly by their media. This new index will actually measure it. Even 3 year old Pal children get told on Hamas children's TV programs by a character dressed as a big cuddly bear: "We will have to kill all the Jews to get our land". Who will this crap hurt most in the end? Let history answer this question. It's like the Pals are feeding poison to their own children.

  • 32. 0 0
    incitement
    • Yaron
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:54

    "Palestinians incitement index".Must be thicker than the Quran,or the Bible. Some posters justifys it because of Israeli occupation.Does the UK or Denmark ,or the netherland,and the US occupies them?but we all know how theirs"incitement index" will look like in relation to those countries.The incitement i do understand,but the two tongues which is a tradition in the Arab world,i will never understand.

  • 31. 0 0
    PETER SM 29 How do you know ignorance is bliss? Tried it?
    • Michael
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:33

    Seriously, Pete, I don't condone incitement to violence, but you can hardly expect the Pals occupied and/or surrounded by IDF guns for over 40 years to spend their whole time telling their kids how lucky they are. And actually the point about Irgun and Stern Gang terrorists is a serious one. They may well have had genuine grievances against the British mandate authorities. The Pals have genuine grievances against Israel. Neither justify terrorism. And if you praise the Irgun and Stern Gang but attack Fatah and Hamas, then you're a hypocrite. Sorry mate, but that's the truth.

  • 30. 0 0
    JOHNBOY thanks for proving my point
    • PETER SM
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:17

    The racist filth and incitement is there in the public domain for those who do not wish to wonder around with their eyes shut tight.

  • 29. 0 0
    MICHAEL ignorance is bliss
    • PETER SM
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:11

    It is the hatred being imbued in the future generations by Pals that guarrantees no peace in the future. You really should read some of it,instead of ignoring its effects. Good to see you have so much time to spend on Haaretz talk back during working hours in Oxford. PS How many hundreds of thousands of Jews died because of the perfidious British white paper?It worked a treat didnt it no Moslem SS divisions raised by the Mufti of Jerusalem or anything after that?

  • 28. 0 0
    #21 Yes, PETER, well past time
    • Johnboy
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:09

    PSM: "About time!" Indeed true i.e. if Israel wants to formally complain about "incitement" then it must formally compile the evidence. This is well overdue. PSM: "Not that their fellow travellers will take any notice" No, I agree with you: Israel needs to do this if its complaints about "incitement" are to have any standing. PSM: "Denial is a given in their 'Pals can do no wrong" view of this conflict.' " *sigh* If Israel wants to claim that there is ongoing "incitement" then it has to document it. Israel can not simply say "but everyone knows!!!", and expect that such a claim will have any credence. Because that's the thing about "incitement", PETER: you can't actually do it without people noticing, precisely because if nobody notices then there isn't much point to doing it...... But I'll point out the corollary to your statement i.e. zionists like you simply take is as read that the Israeli complaints have standing.

  • 27. 0 0
    Wow! Reading this story's talkback ...
    • Jasper
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:05

    ... is like entering a chicken coop with a handful of seed.

  • 26. 0 0
    #19 Thanks for the echo, the echo, the echo...
    • Johnboy
    • 10.03.10
    • 14:01

    SDHD: "Johnboy uses his own ignorance as an argument" SDHD, even you should understand that a complaint from the Israeli govt regarding "incitement" requires a compilation of evidence to back up that complaint. This article makes clear that Israel has not had a mechanism in place to document the "incitement" that it has complained so vociferously about. Those previous complaints therefore can not have any FORMAL standing whatsoever. JB: "So, not so much monitoring before?" Yeah, SDHD, and I stand by that statement i.e. this article makes clear that all *previous* complaints from Israel can have no standing, precisely because ISRAEL WAS NOT MONITORING THIS. You can continue to wave your arms and splutter "but, but, but...", and all you are doing is a very good impersonation of a 2-stroke engine i.e. you may well display plenty of horse-power, but there is no evidence whatsoever of any brain-power.

  • 25. 0 0
    despondent Not to mention football teams&the virtues of martyrdom
    • PETER SM
    • 10.03.10
    • 13:55

    on TV how wonderful "life" is for the little shahid after his has martyred himself

  • 24. 0 0
    Despondent 23, Bibi was praising Jewish terrorists yesterday.
    • Michael
    • 10.03.10
    • 13:55

    An Arab MK got thrown out of the Knesset for pointing out that the Irgun and Stern Gang were just terrorists who killed Arab civilians and a British politician. Bibi was, of course, praising them. I was almost tempted to write to my MP and demand the Israeli ambassador be asked why the Israeli government was praising terrorists who committed acts of terror and murder against British soldiers and civilians. Better put it onto the list of Israeli government incitement eh?

  • 23. 0 0
    imagine name a square in TA 'baruch goldstein' !
    • despondent
    • 10.03.10
    • 13:35

    "PA's plan to name a square in Ramallah after Dalal al-Mughrabi, one of the terrorists who perpetrated the coastal road massacre in 1978, in which 37 Israelis were killed. " Imagine Israel naming a square after Baruch Goldstein! Palestinians name squares after murderers and Israel names squares after peace heroes (Rabin square). Tell me dear Palestinians, how do you expect me to stay in the Peace Now camp?? Must I simply wake up to a reality of neighbors who value death over life?

  • 22. 0 0
    Petra
    • Experticus nihilii
    • 10.03.10
    • 13:28

    Petra, the rest of the world is aware of the Palestinian history of violence, we're not denying that, but we also read Haaretz, and we also see the comments made by Israelis and supporters of Israel. Those comments which call the Palestinians savages, which call for the carpet bombing of Gaza, and my personal favourite from you, Petra, is that you state that Jews are better than others. Do you remember that statement, Petra? You made it recently, so tell me Petra, being better than everyone else, what do you make of the fact that Palestinian incitement declined when there was progress in the peace process? Surely, if one does not want peace with Israel, one is not going to reduce incitement against Israel simply because of progrss in the peace process? Btw, are you also better than your non-Jewish American compatriots? And why is that?

  • 21. 0 0
    About time! Not that their fellow travellers will take any notice
    • PETER SM
    • 10.03.10
    • 13:18

    Denial is a given in their "Pals can do no wrong" view of this conflict.

  • 20. 0 0
    AS if the world doesn't know about the pals
    • Petra
    • 10.03.10
    • 12:48

    the terrorists that never stop must be the ever ready batteries. They never achieve anything but terror.

  • 19. 0 0
    Johnboy uses his own ignorance as an argument
    • SDHD
    • 10.03.10
    • 12:32

    "So, not so much monitoring before?"

  • 18. 0 0
    #1-13 I'd appreciate it
    • Yonatan
    • 10.03.10
    • 12:12

    if you could all provide some concrete examples of Israeli government (not settler) incitement against Palestine or Palestinians. You may include newspaper and other media articles.

  • 17. 0 0
    #15 Thanks for the info, monkey-boy
    • Johnboy
    • 10.03.10
    • 12:03

    SDHD: "More formal monitoring, boob" Actually, it appears that the word "more" is totally misplaced. SDHD: "You think Jihad Mouse was a wive`s tale?" Tell me about "Jihad Mouse", and then we can judge if are spouting an old wive's tale. SDHD: "Some of the Imams` sermons?" Again, SDHD, you should step up to the plate and expand on that statement. SDHD: "The television commercials of Mohammed Al Dura" *sigh* See. Above. SDHD: "You chatter like a hyena and say nothing." Man, talk about a sotty pot pointing a grimy finger... If Israel wants to complain about "incitement" then it needs to compile the evidence. I applaud Israel's decision to do so, but I am correct that SINCE THIS APPEARS TO BE THE FIRST TIME then their previous complaints have no standing. They were (as you are now) merely of the "but, but, everyone knows!!" variety.

  • 16. 0 0
    'You've got to smile as we take your land!'
    • Michael
    • 10.03.10
    • 11:28

    "there is almost no crude incitement of the type common under Yasser Arafat. "There are fewer expressions of open incitement to terror, but there is encouragement of a violent atmosphere," one official said." How dare the Pals 'encourage a violent atmosphere'! Israel has tanks, guns, bombs, rockets, shells, F16s that it uses to enforce its colonial rule, but they could all suddenly crumble into dust if a violent atmosphere is deployed against them.

  • 15. 0 0
    Johnboy the unobservant
    • SDHD
    • 10.03.10
    • 11:25

    "So, not so much monitoring before? Then what was the basis for the previous complaints from the Israelis? Old wive`s tales, perhaps?" More formal monitoring, boob. You think Jihad Mouse was a wive's tale? Some of the Imams' sermons? The television commercials of Mohammed Al Dura beckoning children to follow him into heaven by putting down their dolls and picking up rocks to throw? You chatter like a hyena and say nothing. There are plenty of instances of incitement, and Israel has chosen to increase and formalize their intelligence on the issue. Would be something to watch YOU pursue intelligence, for a change.

  • 14. 0 0
    The Palestinian Incitement Index
    • Cynic #2
    • 10.03.10
    • 10:46

    The higher the index better. At least it shows that the Palestinians will not be conned forever by Israel and its American and European double faced backers into a phony peace process. The whole of Palestine is a Muslim trust (Waqf). For those who are deaf, read Edogan's lips.

  • 13. 0 0
    ok fair enough
    • rm
    • 10.03.10
    • 10:42

    So now the PA knows what to do. Plenty of incitement to monitor on the Israeli side I'd say. Look Israel if you want the Palestinians to love and respect you, stop interfering with their lives and freedom. Would work wonders I expect.

  • 12. 0 0
    'government coordinator for incitement in the PA'
    • Colin Wright
    • 10.03.10
    • 10:27

    I've often asserted that Israel deliberately incites Palestinian violence. However, I never thought they would openly appoint an official to carry it out.

  • 11. 0 0
    How about 'the Jewish incitement index'?
    • Colin Wright
    • 10.03.10
    • 10:21

    Personally, it seems to me that you're way ahead.

  • 10. 0 0
    So, not so much monitoring before?
    • Johnboy
    • 10.03.10
    • 09:29

    Then what was the basis for the previous complaints from the Israelis? Old wive's tales, perhaps? The say-so of the IDF spokesmodel? Bibi told Barack Ravid? Something along those lines, was it.....

  • 9. 0 0
    Palestine Needs an Israeli Incitement Index
    • Mark of Lewiston
    • 10.03.10
    • 08:46

    Given recent and ongoing incitement by the Israeli government, a parallel index should be established by the Palestinian government to monitor and count Israeli government incitement. They can start with the declaration of some Jewish religious sites in Palestine as Israeli National sites.

  • 8. 0 0
    We take it for granted of course that Israeli incitement against
    • Esther
    • 10.03.10
    • 07:51

    ... Pals is monitored regularly... or do we leave that to the Pals themselves?...

  • 7. 0 0
    Nicknames for such actions
    • Buddy
    • 10.03.10
    • 07:29

    In other words Israel does not want the Palestinians to say their opinion about it, so in order to do so and not to be looked at as a non-democratic occupational regime, Netanyahu found a new word for the freedom on expression: "incitement". But I would like to know from the Israelis what exactly do they expect the Palestinians to do, nothing? No resistence, no peaceful demonstrations, no talking about how their lands and lives are grabbed in front of their eyes! How disfficult to understand.

  • 6. 0 0
    How absurd
    • Palestinian
    • 10.03.10
    • 07:23

    If there is incitement among the Palestinians it is because of the Israeli occupation. End the occupation everything else that goes along it will come to an end. Plus it makes me sick when I read that Netanyahu cares about peace, when funny words come from such a right wing Premier it is not funny any more.

  • 5. 0 0
    Monitoring will make PA abolish incitement altogether
    • Ari
    • 10.03.10
    • 07:20

    Pals have already greatly reduced incitement, incl re-issueing school books, etc. That's precisely what's making the Israeli warmongers worried. Monitoring incitement might make them adopt peacfull non-violent resistance. Then Israel will trully be screwed.G-d forbid Pals finally adopt that stance, Had they adopted that form of resistance from the first Aliyah onwards, this whole tragedy could've been avoided. Pals' responce to Zionisms attempt to establishment a state for Jews, ruled by a Jewish minority (at that time) was met with violent opposition. Then, partition was met with violenct opposition. Everthing since has been met with violent opposition. Pal opposition has always been morally justified, but violent opposition was never the way. Had Zionism sought an egalitarian state in the Land of Israel, not a Jewish supremacist state (whether as majority or minority), there wouldnt have been opposition by the Arabs of the Land of Israel (the Pals). But Zionism wasnt seeking that!

  • 4. 0 0
    When will PA start doing the same
    • Salman
    • 10.03.10
    • 06:27

    I hope PA starts doing the same for Israeli incitement and issue formal reports to the UN.

  • 3. 0 0
    Lets also monitor incitement by the Settlers, Jerusalem
    • Observer
    • 10.03.10
    • 06:22

    Police force, Border Guards, Checkpoint guards, etc. Otherwise, this is nothing more than self-satisfying propaganda.

  • 2. 0 0
    yeah sure safe against thought crimes
    • what you dont know
    • 10.03.10
    • 06:15

    you got to be nice to have people like you...and stealing their land is not going to make them say nice things about you...now tell me what arab in his right mind would say anything nice about you?

  • 1. 0 0
    How about Palestine
    • Rose
    • 10.03.10
    • 06:09

    Publishes a formal report on Israel's land theft, attacks on civilians, bulldozing of homes and olive groves, vandalism of Christian Churches and settlers attacks. Oh, right. There isn't enough paper in Gaza because of Israel's illegal blockades. And I bet you don't have the guts to print this because it's the truth.