Israel grants visas to witnesses in suit over Rachel Corrie death

the Israeli government has no legitimate reason to block the doctor's testimony. It's enough that if it's irrelevant, the defense can show this at the trial. And Rachel did NOT hate Jews. She hated the injustice that was and is done to Palestinians on a daily basis. Those are two very different things and everyone knows it. Criticism of the Occupation is not antisemitism. Even Antizionism isn't antisemitism(remember, there have always been Jewish antizionists). Rachel's story must be told in court and the demonization of this righteous, progressive and universalist young woman should stop. Rachel never hated anyone. She only hated what was done to the Palestinians. And millions of honorable people all around the world agree with her on that.

All you said is correct.Most of us know their motive.i.e Spying on Israelad most probably aiding the Arabs and not the Jewish state. Time has come to put this accusatory episode TO REST. Since it was not deemed to be a purpuse attack why did Israel pay compensation. Your last sentence says it all.

"You seem to feel being exonerated in one country removes any question of a person`s guilt. " If the country tried their own citizen, and honestly believe he is not guilty, why should they allow their own citizen to be harassed until he's found guilty? Isn't a country somewhat "obligated" to protect their citizens? How many human "wrongdoings" do you obsess about those you believe have to do with Israel? For example, do you post endlessly about Chinese soldiers using Tibetans for target practice?

Before you get too far out of line about those two guys, ask yourself: how different was their treatment from what Jews in occupied Poland would have done if they caught two German soldiers? When you oppress people, don't let them catch you unprotected.

You seem to feel being exonerated in one country removes any question of a person's guilt. Would you accept an exoneration on a charge of anti-semitism from a court in Iran, or would you feel other attention should be paid? Even an honest zionist would admit that the odds on an Israeli inquiry on a case like this finding against Israel are non-existent.

You have a curiously one-dimensional vision of the ME, though that is probably a function of your zionism. You posit that the mission was either to help the Israel or its enemies. Could you conceive of a more appropriate third alternative: it was to help the US, whether it hurt Israel, its enemies, or both? Or do you consider it illegitimate that the US put its interests ahead of Israel?

"I admit I don`t "know" the driver`s intentions, but they can be inferred from the clear fact that he knew she was there as she had been frustrating for some time before he murdered her." Now all you have to do is make other inferences given the fact that she fell behind a berm and was out of his field of vision. You're one of those "lying" attorneys, aren't you?

I tried to explain the whole episode but posts were sent late. I read yours and the True Blue Jew's as well. Yours is pertinent because in my own eyes I remembered when our boys accidently entered Gaza capturing and troturing them and summarily showing their bloodied hands from the upstairs window( where they hung the Israelis). People who constantly want to denigrate the IDF and Israel are only too pleased to accuse the INNOCENTS ISRAEL versus the terrorist bastards GUILTY ONES WHO ARE THE PAls. Rachel corrie was a jihadist par excellence and she got her comuppance for sure. I am sick to read onsubjects pertaining Israel constantly in thiese various Israeli/Jewish talkbacks,especially when this STORY IS SO OLD AND should be dead and burried ALOMG whith this woman together once and for all.

And since you are not a lawyer you should desist in making unwarranted prognosis on the subject. That you sound confused I am sure a 100% Therefore,it would be best if you think before uttering BS,I have noticed in all your posts yesterday. Why the hell bring in Charles Manson and his childhood memories?In brief we are seeing nowadays on the murderers trying to justify their vile behaviour blaming their EARLY CHILDHOOD. It makes me laugh how the judiciary can fall for this phenomena.In short the world is getting crazy by the day. Let us open all the prisons and say:Oh poor things they are what they are because of their abuse during their early years bull! You then proceed with further bull,comparing the killings by the terrorist only a few TINY??number of Israelis. You mister need your head examined.Or else shutting the distorted mouth IS better proposition. You lecture from afar,let's see how you'll fare IN FRONT OF A SUICIDE BOMBER. PATHETIC

idf_sergeant #165; "Rachel Corrie was, in fact, acting in support of those Gaza terrorists. That was her self-declared aim. There is no doubt about it." Are you saying Rachel's actions, right or wrong, of trying to prevent the demolition of the Nasrallah family's home, constitutes support of "terrorists"? The Nasrallah family were NOT considered "terrorists", were they? Everything I read about the family says they're a lot like all of us - just trying to live the best life possible. What made it necessary for the IDF to demolish their home? Had the IDF declared where the Nasrallah's were living a combat zone? If it was wrong for Rachel to be where she was, doing what she was doing, could you tell me what would be the right way show support for Palestinians, say one happens to feel they deserve some support?

I agree with you all the way.She was not just like the jihadists,she was one of them. Trying to present herself in A WAR ZONE expecting the soldier up there on the buldozer to see where the hell the woman was is a total BS. There were the military trying to deal with the terrorists and here comes this stupid woman who's pictures I've seen just like a banshee obstructing the IDF's job. If some peoople liken her as good person I say SHE WAS NOTHING BUT A TROUBLE MAKER. She died,there ends the story. I have a feeling the parents decided on this latest hearing the Goldstone report,plus the Dubai affair,thus in they jump on the BAND WAGON I hope the Govt will not let anyone in. Besides they have been doing it for years through their website---hungry for cash?hmmm More important:ALL THE JEWISH RACHELS MURDERED BY TERRORISTS: RACHEL LEVY 17 YEARS OLD RACHEL LEVI 19, RACHEL GAVISH 19, RACHEL CHARHI MURDERED ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND,SON, AND FATHER WHILE CELEBRATING PASSOVER MEAL, RACHEL SHABO MURDERED WITH HER 3 SONS,AGED 5,13,16 WHILE AT HOME

"It is not double jeopardy if another country conducted the first investigation. This is particularly true if there is every reason to believe the other country`s courts are corrupt and will not find against the government." How many times do you believe it is credible to bring someone up on charges for the same thing? Keep trying different countries until you get a conviction?

"if it would be double jeopardy. a criminal case and a lawsuit are TWO different things. you can be found innocent of something...but still be held "liable" for it. do i need to explain to you how that works?" Do I need to explain how harassing someone with multiple legal proceedings works? "and by the way, when israel stops pulling crap that needs "bashing", i`ll stop "bashing" it. i look forward to that day." I look forward to the day you bash other countries which do far worse than Israel instead of bashing Israel disproportionately. It makes you come off like an ass.

"Double jeopardy rather requires TWO trials, and so far there hasn`t even been a single trial, civil OR criminal." It's analogous, nitwit. The man already went through an investigative process to determine whether his case was trial-worthy. Why put him through a bunch of crap every time someone feels like it, puddinhead? SDHD: "they can certainly indemnify their citizens from frivolous lawsuits," JB: "They can certainly also shoot all the witnesses cold, stone dead, but I wouldn`t recommend that either." Or you're simply a moron with crappy retorts. SDHD: "which are certainly similar to double jeopardy in this case." JB: "You can`t have "double jeopardy" when there has been NO TRIAL." SIMILAR to, puddinhead. SIMILAR to. SDHD: "How many times do you think you can credibly pursue the same person over the same circumstance, particularly if he`d been found not guilty?" moron: "Q: Found not guilty by whom, and how?" The investigators, puddin.

"I would agree that I do not have sufficient evidence to convict the driver." You said it was a case of murder, in unequivocal terms. You're full of crap.

SDHD: "If Israel already conducted an investigation and concluded there was no crime committed," An INVESTIGATION is not a TRIAL. Double jeopardy rather requires TWO trials, and so far there hasn't even been a single trial, civil OR criminal. SDHD: "they can certainly indemnify their citizens from frivolous lawsuits," They can certainly also shoot all the witnesses cold, stone dead, but I wouldn't recommend that either..... SDHD: "which are certainly similar to double jeopardy in this case." You can't have "double jeopardy" when there has been NO TRIAL. SDHD: "How many times do you think you can credibly pursue the same person over the same circumstance, particularly if he`d been found not guilty?" Q: Found not guilty by whom, and how? A: Found not guilty in an internal IDF document that was never released to the public.

Wrong! Rachel was 10 meters in front of a Gazan home. The dozers were waaaaayyyyyy off the Philadelphi route so this was not a closed military area. And, how could the IDF give orders to keep dozing even if you saw someone in front of you? I think you are a bit confused.

I would agree that I do not have sufficient evidence to convict the driver. This is not a court of law, but a forum for opinion. My opinion is based on facts acquired from credible eyewitnesses, but its not a judicial determination. I admit I don't "know" the driver's intentions, but they can be inferred from the clear fact that he knew she was there as she had been frustrating for some time before he murdered her. I neither know nor care about his "experiences" outside this incident just as I don't care about Charles Manson's childhood. Prior experience does not justify murder. This applies equally to Pal terrorists that kill Israeli civilian noncombatants. But only a tiny minority of Pals have ever hurt a Jew. Collectively punishing 6 million people for the crimes of a few thousand is absurd and and, in the context of occupation and war, is a war crime.

"Rachel Courie was representing islamic murderers of Jews" Corrie was representing humanity, trying to prevent unjust collective punishment. As a pacifist, she practiced and taught non-violent resistance. I guess you think everyone should simply submit to authority or do you think its OK when jews nonviolently protest, but that no one should question Zionists?!! Peaceful resistance is a critical part of democracy. The bulldozer was not moving rapidly when it hit Rachel. The operator knew very well that she was there. It had been moving back and forth, trying to get around her for some time. She acted in the highest tradition of human rights advocates like those in Tiannememan Square, putting her life on the line for what she believed in, fundamental, universal human rights. If you're afraid to die for what you believe in, you're not really alive. She was not grandstanding. Had she not been killed, no one would have ever heard of heard of her.

It is not double jeopardy if another country conducted the first investigation. This is particularly true if there is every reason to believe the other country's courts are corrupt and will not find against the government.

if it would be double jeopardy. a criminal case and a lawsuit are TWO different things. you can be found innocent of something...but still be held "liable" for it. do i need to explain to you how that works? and by the way, when israel stops pulling crap that needs "bashing", i'll stop "bashing" it. i look forward to that day.

Rachel Corrie was in Rafah with other activists to prevent the wanton demolition of family homes in a territory that Israel has no legal right to be in. Saying she is helping 'terrorists' is making the assumption that the families who lived in these homes were terrorists. The defence that dozer drivers can't see what's in front of them suggests that these dozers are not safe for the driver and should not be used in civilian areas, Israel clearly did not provide adequate safeguards. Would they use these machines on the streets of Tel Aviv?

Once more Israel obstructs evidence and ignores justice in the name of Freedom

... typical formal Israeli policy about any genuine culpability... sometimes it even works...

"and there is NO double jeopardy involved. whatever you CLAIM israel has already done over this issue, a lawsuit does NOT constitute "double jeopardy"!" If Israel already conducted an investigation and concluded there was no crime committed, they can certainly indemnify their citizens from frivolous lawsuits, which are certainly similar to double jeopardy in this case. How many times do you think you can credibly pursue the same person over the same circumstance, particularly if he'd been found not guilty?

the fact IS that its intent had been to prevent witnesses from providing [incriminating?]testimony in a lawsuit being conducted in an israeli courtroom. and there is NO double jeopardy involved. whatever you CLAIM israel has already done over this issue, a lawsuit does NOT constitute "double jeopardy"! and so what i said STANDS.

are you? how about butterflies? do you talk to them, too? why i am not surrised?

About ISM Who We Are The International Solidarity Movement (ISM) is a Palestinian-led movement committed to resisting the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land using nonviolent, direct-action methods and principles. Founded by a small group of activists in August, 2001, ISM aims to support and strengthen the Palestinian popular resistance by providing the Palestinian people with two resources, international protection and a voice with which to nonviolently resist an overwhelming military occupation force. WIKIPEDIA The International Solidarity Movement (ISM) is a Palestinian-led organization focused on assisting the Palestinian side of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict using nonviolent protests. It was founded in 2001 by Ghassan Andoni, a Palestinian activist; Neta Golan, an Israeli activist; Huwaida Arraf, a Palestinian-American; and George N. Rishmawi, a Palestinian activist. Adam Shapiro, an American, joined the movement shortly after its founding and is also often considered one of the founders.

wearing a Burqa.

C/F Wikipedia: "The International Solidarity Movement (ISM) is a Palestinian-led organization focused on assisting the Palestinian side of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict using nonviolent protests. It was founded in 2001 by Ghassan Andoni, a Palestinian activist; Neta Golan, an Israeli activist; Huwaida Arraf, a Palestinian-American; and George N. Rishmawi, a Palestinian activist. Adam Shapiro, an American, joined the movement shortly after its founding and is also often considered one of the founders. The organization calls on civilians from around the world to participate in acts of nonviolent protests against the Israeli military in the West Bank and previously the Gaza Strip.

You apply it only when criticizing Israel and Jews. I'd say that you are a one track mind, would n't you agree Mr Critical thinker? How about expanding your horizon. do you think you might find something, anything, worth criticizing about Israels Enemies? their statements and their actions? How about Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad,...

Rachel Corrie believed and lived the Palestinian's lying propaganda against Israel and Jews; and she participated in their intifadas which were designed to murder Israelis as well as sacrifice their own people in order to make propaganda points. I don't recall her and her fellow peace objecting to the Palestinians with Arafats encouragement luring Israeli boys into the WB to be murdered, nor objecting to the same murderers cutting out the hearts of Jewish Israelis who innocently strayed into Nablus or Ramallah., and publicly waiving the arms in victory while displaying hanmds dripping with the Jews blood

how about: warlike pacifists, liberal Jihadists, compassionate decapitators.

What a crappy lawyer. How do you know what the drivers intentions and experiences were without the presentation of evidence before you?

And at 24 you're no onger a "young girl" you are a young woman, mature and knows whats going on. By lying down in front of a bulldozer you are following in a long line of so called peace demonstrators who grandstand pretending to risk their lives before an unstoppable moving object. She was invisioning herself on TV single handed stopping a bulldozer, same as that fellow in Tiniamen square stood before a tank. However, the tank in Tiniamin square was not moving rapidly and the drivers eyes were not blocked by rubble and view angle, besides the kid in front of the tank was just another compatriot, not an anemy agent supporting murderers of your kin. Rachel Courie was representing islamic murderers of Jews. Some hell of an "innocent young girl" ? Nobody has any right to bring in lying witnesses just because they say so. As for Rachel, she is now in Moslem heaven as one of 72 virgins servicing the martyrs for the corrupt sheiks, imams and ayatollahs.

but she wasn't. She was in Israel. That's why she's dead.

Who trusts the Israeli justice system when it comes to occupation.

Your posts flatly contradict your declared credentials. Lawers usually are capable thinking critically, you are not. Spewing the hate towards the Jewish state of Israel, not telling the truth, throwing around offensive words is not argumenting about the matter. Shame on you.

Those times are starting up again, and it feels great.

Could we compare Rachel Corrie to the Chinese man who stood in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square? I'm sure the tank commander was told to proceed forward. What was the bull dozer operater thinking as he drove over her, then reversed to drive over her again.

Likud has been voted in by the majority of Israelis. Following your "logic" Connie that makes every Israeli a "legitimate" target of all those who disagree with Likud and its policies....Are you sure you are not some kind of covert Hamas member? P.S I wonder in the present day and age how does it feel worshiping a Golden Calf (in your case the infallible state of Israel)? Please do answer and don't give me the you-support-terrorism-rubbish

Painting all palestinians as "terrorists" is slanderous. Jewish people have a lot of nerve collectively labeling the Palestinians and the people that wish to aid them as terrorists. Rachel Corrie was there helping Palestinian people.

Join NewPolicy.org and start working with America's lobby for Middle East peace. It's good for the United States and for all Middle Easterners.

(1) was it ok, that rachel aided that (anti-semitic) organisation ? (2) was she murdered ? ad (1): it was her decision and her right to do this. not unlikely, she had later in life changed her mind on the topic. ad (2): when YOU think, the driver must have seen her, then it doesnt make YOU right to call him a murderer. when the driver says, he didnt see her, then this has to be accepted. ...how many people were killed by a train (even at daylight), and the driver said he didnt see them ? do you call him a "brutal murderer" because he has big windows on the train, full sight on the tracks, and the person was right in front of him ? rail lines are not walking tracks and 1 meter in front of a bulldozer is no playground.

Yes, I would but I live in Canada where the law means something so I don`t understand how this is YOUR point. My POINT JOHN is I live In Montreal last I looked it is also inCanada. When you counterpoint read the info I am not Raymond. Israel also has stringent laws...

"Contributory negligence"! Oh, why didn't you say so Sarge... geez that makes all the difference. Never mind. Nothing like an Israeli legal opinion to clarify matters. (You sound like 'Der Dersh' Dershowitz.) So the settler crazies -- it seems they can never do this "contributory negligence" you lecture us on. Now why is that, hmmm? "ANYONE who stands in front of a military armored tank...can only expect to get run over." (I left out the part about "and expects to stop it with their body because you and I know Ms. Corrie was not thinking that--you kibbitzer, you.) Really? They'd run over a Jew? A settler? You and I know the answer to that question, so your legal treatise is what it is: a remarkably shallow, cold and contemptuous dismissal of the things that matter, starting with the truth.

"I assume if a not guilty is handed in by reason of an accident like the snow blowers , you will live with that." Yes, I would but I live in Canada where the law means something so I don't understand how this is YOUR point. The USS Liberty massacre HAS NOT been determined to be an accident. There has NEVER been an official investigation so how could anything have been determined? ALL the Liberty survivors and their supporters WANT is an investigation. Maybe they should move their focus to the israeli courts. Your suggestion that her death is her fault is crass. Witness:"We were horribly surprised. They had been careful not to hurt us. They'd always stopped before." Driver: "I pushed the earth, and I didn't see her at all. Maybe she was hiding in there."

old wingnut cry about "what about Darfur" has been overtaken by Israeli racism against those very Darfurians trying to find shelter in Israel. i do not see darfur refugees being entertained for the USA, perhaps also you should read about the voyage of the damned and Joseph Kemnnedy[s refusal to allow JEWS into the USA.GUESS HE WAS YOUR WING NUT SENATOR RIGHT? Where was Justice for the chicago seven? But then no one is perfect right Justice will prevail in Israel , moreso then it did for captured and murdered US diplomates in the days after the shaw left Iran. When did Iran have a trial for those Americans? yep funny how you do not wingnut that one!

Your "kind" words show what kind of a loving mother you are..MOT...The people in Gaza voted in Hamas...does that make them peace loving people or terrorist supporters? Do you see an uprising from the people in Gaza against these terrorists who are not only stealing from the people but putting them in harms way on a daily basis? NO...You dear lady are also a fool..and the fact that you are parying daily (your words) for me and my family to suffer shows how ugly you are.

The Atack on the Liberty was never investigated. Ward Boston the head of the navy investigation[cover up] admitted this in 2002. read his sworn affidavit. HIS exact words I was ordered by Macnamara and LBJ to say it was a accident and case of mistaken identity. When asked why he lied he said " I was a soldier and i followed orders. Why do you and others keep talking about the bombing of canadian troops and friendly fire incidents that take minutes if not seconds . Do you know how long the Israele military atacked that ship do you know how long the assault was.from 2:00 to 4:00 about 2 hours. Israel hating conspiracy nuts . Raymond you are blind

Your comment about the US civil rights movement shows that you are an ignorant, bitter person who is afraid to think. Unless you're a total bigot, you realize that the US is a better place precisely because of the sacrifices made by civil rights workers. Thank God they weren't cowards like you. "Yes, Rachel Corrie was killed by an Israeli bulldozer... and by the cynical, hateful morons at the ISM who spew anti-Zionism" Utter nonsense. The founders of ISM are all Israelis!!! I've spoken with two of them and they are anything but hateful or cynical. No one with ISM is a pawn or dupe. They know the danger of dealing with barbarians, but stand up for justice. You obviously know nothing but think spewing lies is great. Neither civil rights workers nor Corrie or anyone else who has worked with ISM was a dupe or victim. They see horrible abuses of human rights made possible by our own country and stand up for what is right.

...Israel has already interfered by preventing the doctor who treated Rachel from testifying. The very definition of a kangaroo court. The concept of the rule of law and equal justice is completely unknown in Israel. This is undeniable. It's in the Israeli news every single day. Double standards and triple standards abound. Even the old wingnut cry about "what about Darfur" has been overtaken by Israeli racism against those very Darfurians trying to find shelter in Israel.

"Just imagine an Israeli traveling to Afghanistan and helping Taliban smuggle weapons to kill American Soldiers " Imagine the sun rising in the West. It's as relevant as your nonsense. Corrie did not smuggle weapons or in any way assist with violence. Even Israel has never made that accusation. ISM activists practice and teach non-violent resistance. Why do you Zionists just make up this idiocy? You know there is absolutely no evidence to support your claims or you didn't bother to look. Does the truth mean anything at all to you?? Do you even claim to have any information, evidence or any basis whatsoever for your idiotic remarks? I'm sure you don't.

Just like I cannot convince you to believe in the official USA position in this respect, you will never be able to make me believe in what is legally refereed as heresy. As I said before, those who hate Israel and USA will believe in any conspiracy theory. Until it is legally proved I believe in my US government.

I assume if a not guilty is handed in by reason of an accident like the snow blowers , you will live with that. THAT was my point. You know when the USS Liberty and the problem arose it was determined that it wa an accident. If this is determined and accident will you still suggest but she wore an orange vest. She should NOT of put her life in Jeopardy as sad as this is it seems that Putting ones life in Jeopardy might result in death.

This is the most wholly false, idiotic thing I've ever read. All three of ISM's founders are Israelis. Never has the organization suggested, condoned or in any way supported the destruction of Israel. You just make up lies and try to pretend you know something. Decent people don't just just make up such garbage from whole cloth, with no concern for the truth. Why should the pariah state of Israel be able to prevent us from going to Palestine? The only time I spent in Israel was between Ben Gurion and E. Jerusalem. I'm sure it was the same for Corrie. Believe me, if we could fly into Ramallah, we would never want to enter the rogue state of Israel. International law and agreements require Israel to allow access to the occupied territories. Only a complete idiot and ideologue would compare a young American pacifist with Bin Laden. She did not stir terror. She practiced and taught non-violent resistance

"she came to instigate and to aid terrorists." This is an absolute lie. She had nothing to do with terrorists. The IDF was and continues to brutally abuse all Pals with casual cruelty and aunrestrained violence. Anyone who truly believes in human rights should applaud her. As Americans, we bear the guilt of Israel's crimes because it could not have acted this way and survived without unconditional US support. We have a right to stand up and demand that this country which receives billions of dollars in loan guarantees, millions in aid per Israeli citizen and enjoy the unconditional protection of the US SC veto have a not only a right to speak up, we have a moral duty. Peace activists oppose terrorists and murdering thugs by practicing and teaching non-violent resistance. To accuse her of being involved with terrorists is absurd. If all of the 6 million Pals were terrorists, they would overrun checkpoints every night. The vast majority are innocent victims.

You make a good point about live ammo. and the accident may not have been a accident concerning the Turkish ship. but to say there was an investigation on the USS liberty is a mistake. Please read my earlier post# 111 to SDHD. Ward Boston the head of the investigation [Navy, never has there been a congresional investigation] said it was a cover up . he was ordered directly by LBJ and Macnamara to say it was an accident and case of mistaken identity. HE then goes on to say why he believes Israel intentionly atacked the ship and tried to sink it. Remember David how long the atack continued. PS there are credible wittnesses thae Israel machine gunned the life boats when the crew of the Liberty put the wounded on the life boats when they thought the ship was going to sink.

That is absolute BS. She was not in any way a combatant. She was an unarmed civilian that no civilized country would have murdered. Hundreds of ISM activists have worked in the WB. None have ever been found with weapons of any sort. I didn't arrive until shortly after she was murdered, but no one I saw ever wore any bulky clothing that could conceal anyting. It was very hot. Moreover, to get anywhere, you had to pass through numerous checkpoints. I assure you that the driver knew she had no weapons or bombs. You apparently prefer your unbridled imagination to anything remotely resembling the truth. Cowards like you who will never risk your life for human rights or anything else you believe in are dead weight in this world. Rachel was one of the best of the best. She chose a very admirable way to apply herself with courage and compassion - virtues you appear to lack.

My point is justice, a point you do not seem to appreciate. Corrie's killer, accidental or not, has never seen the inside of a courtroom and only the usual spurious israeli investigations have been "done".

NO, IT WAS NOT. It's been a cover up all the way. No US governmental entity has ever undertaken an investigation into the culpability for the attack. There have been investigations into the seamanship of the crew (US Navy Court of Inquiry), the message handling procedures of the US military (The JCS Russ Report), and other attempts to report publicly reported facts. No agency or other institution has ever conducted a fact finding investigation into the question of why the Israelis launched the attack and their prior knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship.

Utterly false. She had been there for some time and the driver definitely knew it. You're assuming this happened at first contact. It did not. I've spoken to several eyewitnesses. The driver knew d__mn well he was killing her. May he burn in hell.

You title yourself "Dr." I don't know how accurate that is or if you are an MD or some other kind of Dr., Ph.D. perhaps. But I do expect some sort of intellectual integrity from someone who asserts such a lofty credentials. Leaving aside how the Liberty crime got into this discussion, your logic is non-existent. Your assertion that either the Liberty was accidentally attacked in the "fog of war" OR was actually a United States effort to help the Arab Armies in the war against Israel leaves out so many other possibilities that any further response would be useless. You have demonstrated, through your posts, that you have checked your critical thinking skill at the door as far as Israel is concerned.

Can you imagine any Western democratic country refusing to permit an important witness to testify in person or by video in a trial that will be critical of its actions? But of course, notwithstanding Israel's posturing as the only true democracy in the ME, everyone, including the Israelis themselves, know this is false.

I am a lawyer. Contributory negligence is irrelevant when an intentional tort - such as battery - is committed. This was a murder, not a case of negligent homicide. The law of Negligence is entirely distinct from that of intentional torts. If someone is killed trying to stop another from wrongly demolishing someone's home, they should be respected, not criticized. If anything, she may have been a little naive and mistaken Israel for a civilized country. No civlized country would order or expect its servants to stop at NOTHING. This was a deliberate murder of an unarmed civilian noncombatant, a war crime. Rachel's courage is an inspiration to all who truly value human rights and believe all persons are equal. No other country in the world does this demolition garbage. When they're told to take out one home, they often take out several others, apparently for fun. Israel is no better than Iran or Cuba.

Accidents do not happen and one of the snowbound people was a young personA 21-year-old woman was killed by a dump truck full of snow as she tried to ... its path last night in Westmount. By The Gazette (Montreal)December 20, 2005 The inquest, presided over by Jean-Luc Malouin, will also examine the death of Rajaa Benkiran, 49, a mother of two who was killed Dec. 15, 2008, by a snow-removal truck as she crossed Jean Brillant St. near the Université de Montréal. John not everyone is 70 plus and it is regular basis with this problem so perhaps Montreal should execute (bring back the Death Penalty

But it was live ammunition shot at Muavenet. Can you explain this to me? Is it fair for Turks to still believe it was deliberate attack to sink their ship? You see your intelligence sometimes cannot explain it all. The case of Muavenet was settled between USA and Turkey and both governments agreed it was a mistake. It happened during peace time. The case of USS liberty was settled between USA and Israel and both sides agreed it was a mistake. This one happened during the chaos of a war. Now you still don't want to believe it... There is nothing I or anyone else can do. If you hate Israel that much you will blame the Tsunami on Israel too just like many blames Israel and even USA for 9/11 attacks.

It's about time someone paid attention to this murder. I never met Rachel, but I arrived shortly after she was killed and talked with several eyewitnesses. It was murder, plain and simple. There is no conceivable way she could not have been seen by the operator. I'm also glad to see the US finally get off its tail. After it did nothing about Rachel, I assumed we could be murdered with impunity. That is still true, apparently, with regard to the Israeli criminal and military justice systems, but maybe the civil courts will come through. Maybe some US officials actually give a blink about US citizens being murdered, even by Israel. I haven't read any comments yet, but I hope there are not any claiming she was a terrorist. ISM is a pacifist group. No one affiliated with it is ever armed nor involved in any form of terrorist activity. As Americans, we have a right to observe and try to influence our beneficiary Israel.

You Israel-hating conspiracists will not let that dog die! The incident was the subject of numerous investigations by the Congress, the NSA and the Defense Department. ALL accepted that this was an accident in the fog of war, as was confirmed with the release a few years ago of the formerly classified transcripts of the pilots' conversations. Israel already apologized and paid compensation. Move on. I suppose you think the US deliberately targeted Canadian troops in Afghanistan a few years ago, or that Israel targeted its OWN troops in Gaza in 2008.

Your talking about a missile fired by mistake. The attack on the Liberty was amost 2 hours long .DID YOU HEAR ME ALMOST TWO HOURS. Please stop insulting our inteligence

Robert,so you are equating three 70 year olds in a snow storm with Corrie in her flourescent vest? It was also last year not a few months ago. And yes, Robert, there is an inquest being conducted and the snow removal guys could face charges.

US also sunk a Turkish military ship called Muavenet. In 1992 during a NATO exercise the US aircraft carrier Saratoga fired a real missile sinking the Turkish destroyer Muavenet by mistake. Turks still believe that it was deliberate while the case was closed as a tragic mistake. Same as the USS Liberty. The case is closed as a mistake but those who hate Israel will continue to believe otherwise..

"Rachel did not "lie down" in front of the D-9 Bulldozer. She was standing there wearing a fluorescent orange vest and with a bullhorn in her hand. The driver knew very well where she was located, and why she was there. He deliberately ran over her, not once but TWICE " I presume you were there and witnessed this. OR are you just rehashing claims by "alleged" witnesses.

In the months leading up to the operations at Rafiah, the IDF was under fire all the time, and that included grenades, IED's, anti-tank fire, and other deadly ambushes. For instance, 19 February 2003, a terrorist explosive charge was detonated underneath an IDF tank killing all four crew members. This happened just a few weeks prior to the combat operations in which Corrie was trying to stop a fully armored tracked monster March 16th. Rachel Corrie was, in fact, acting in support of those Gaza terrorists. That was her self-declared aim. There is no doubt about it.

Rachel's letters from Gaza to her family were remarkable documents. In the words of actor Alan Rickman: "A born writer. It's like jumping inside someone's soul. Her relentless, undiluted humanity is inspiring and profoundly moving. And she makes you laugh." I ask people with an open mind to read her book "Let Me Stand Alone. The Journals of Rachel Corrie" (2008), so they can judge for themselves. Rachel also features in the documentary "Rachel: an American Conscience" (2005), which is available for viewing on YouTube. She talks about why she came to Gaza and the documentary examines the circumstances of her death.

you know Robert I just heard on the news that three citizens here in Montreal were killed by snow removal machinery in the last few months. why? because the operator did not see them in the snow. Perhaps you should come here and make a case for those murdering Snow removal guys

Thanks for making everything so "clear", buddy. In the usual israeli clarification, an armoured bulldozer designed specifically to demolish people's homes, is now a "military armoured tank". The IDF the "most moral army in the world" is the only army in the world with bulldozers designed to demolish homes. It was a military mission? With a civillian "tank" driver? It was a closed military zone? The Rafah refugee camp? With 6 or 7 other westerners? Murder is murder, sergeant.

you know BBS Israel is still a sovereign country instead of saying Bravo that all the witnesses are allowed you initiate a what is wrong with this picture... absolutely nothing BBS.

It is only proper for Israel to have this hearing, after all guaranteed Egypt Jordan Iran Lebanon and the likes would have been dismal to say the least if they had to have a trial. When youlie down in front of a bulldozer you take it upon yourself that there can be a consiquence Bravo Israel for having a fair trial.

Have you been on an American Indian reservation. Did you know the U.S. cavalry were shooting small children [native American]as they were crawling on the ground. Do you expect to see an American flagg at a reservation. A quick history leson , Custer was not goining to Big Horn to tell the indians to go back on the reservation. The plan was to have Reno atack the village during the battle that way the braves return to defend the wimin and children and the cavalry then masacres everyone.Worked again and again, Not that day, to many indians.

nobody deserves to suffer like Rachel and her family.

do you support the repressive regimes in chechyna , sri lanka , sudan , tibet , burma, congo or any muslim country or is it just israel?

the question that eludes david is why was rachel there at all ??? like most of these posters they seem to think that rachel had aright to be shouting at the bulldozer driver. QUITE SIMPLY SHE HAD NO RIGHT TO BE THERE AT ALL !!

Those who mock the death of a peaceful 24-year old American citizen are a disgrace not only to Israel, but to every American Jew. I hope a fair trial will take place in Israel, otherwise it will have to be held on American soil. Those who endangered this young life by not stopping the bulldozer they were driving shall be sentenced. This is the only way of restoring justice and showing Israeli democracy does work.

"ANYONE who stands in front of a military armored tank and thinks they will stop it by their body, can only expect to get run over." Unless of course they are a fanatical Jewish settler throwing stones at the tank. In that case they are carried off to safety by four IDF soldiers.

Did you check your brain at the door? Corrie wasn't supporting terrorists in Gaza. Do you actually believe that every person living in the terrorities is terrorist? You probably do. I promise to pary daily that you and those you love suffer worse than Rachel Corrie and her family.

. . . and we return the favor. She was not an idealist, but an antisemitic, anarchist racist, full of hate. She was a sick young lady, and sadly did not receive treatment in time. Anti-American to boot. I won't forget those images of her burning the American flag.

Rachel did not "lie down" in front of the D-9 Bulldozer. She was standing there wearing a fluorescent orange vest and with a bullhorn in her hand. The driver knew very well where she was located, and why she was there. He deliberately ran over her, not once but TWICE !

To bad you wont let the real truth out. The Liberty was watching Moshe Dian take the Golan Heights and didn't want the world to know therefore blow it out of the water and sink it. Now Rachael Corrine. What were the Bulldozers doing there except as weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION?

under US pressure, "the only democracy" reluctantly condecends to allow witnesses to testify at the trial but they ban the the doctor who treated Corrie's injuries and later confirmed her death, from testifying. What a sham.

I confess that I had not heard of this incident before, but I hope that a US newspaper will copy some of the material on this article and the Talkbacks. Americans would be truly amazed at how their tax dollars are spent by Israel. They will also be appalled by the casual, callous, scurrilous and totally unaccepable references to the dead American girl by supposed allies, who are huge recipients of American aid, including Caterpiller D9s. Here comes the anti-semitic bit, some of the posters are straying very close to the Nuremberg defence - "he was only obeying orders". At least in Tiananmen Square 1989 the tank driver did not drive over the protester on TV. Someone refers to double jeopardy, surely this only applies if the driver has already stood trial and has been acquitted, which appears not to be the case.

Rachel Corrie was not a whore, a pawn or a retard. She was an idealistic young woman saw injustice in the territories and acted on it. For this shw was murdered by the IDF. To mock her existence and brutal murder shows the true character of today's Israel and its supporters. Hope you're pleased with yourselves. Let's all take a moment to mock Shalit's agony.

I forgot for a moment that we are talking of the most moral army in the world whose definition of a combat zone is knocking down occupied peoples' homes.

Corrie chose to stand in solidarity with the enemy of the jewish people. This did not exempt her from the death plan the enemy-of-the-jewish people has for the jewish people. End of story.

when its israel. no rachel in chechyna , sri lanka , sudan , tibet , burma, congo or any muslim country ! isnt that remarkable mattie just israel , dont you wonder why ?? its called anti semitism !!

had a free ride ,without undue interference from English police. This Brit racist thought he could just walk into a combat zone ,something he wouldn't dare with his own troops in e.g. Afghanistan ,but Israelis are supposed to be subservient to everybody. 'His Mum ,in a tight fitting jumper amplifying view of her ample boobs said furiously on the BBC "We cooperated with Israelis in investigation of the Mike Place bombing in Tel Aviv "[by 2 Brits] as if this was a favor. BBC interviewer nodded and the British Police thought the same ,so the circle of the future Tube Bombers,identical to the one the Mike Place bombers had come from remained unscathed by the "investigation"

See Wikipedia on Rachael Correy. It has an excellent picture of the DR9 which will give anyone a better perspective on this suicide. Only an idiot would stand under that blade. I don't know what it takes for an American to burn her own flag. And I don't know what the Gaza doctor could testify to except that he observed a bunch of severely crumpled body parts. Some things are learning experiences. This is one.

Rachel, your star still shines brightly seven years after Israel tried to extinguish its light. You will be remembered always by all who believe in freedom and justice. We will never forget your sacrifice. Palestine WILL be free.

You nailed it Chris, finally got one right. She did interfere with the business of terrorist, she was defending the terrorists of Hamas and Fatah, just like you do. Rachel thought she was invincible as most young people do, but when you decide to stick yourself into the middle of a war death sometime occurs. Just as Sec. Gates said "War is Ugly".

This combat operation was taking place in a CLOSED MILITARY ZONE. It was a Military mission, and a civilian who tries to challenge a tank (or other heavy armored vehicle) moving forward, is liable for their own "contributory negligence" (an absolute defense), not the tank driver. Let me be clear, in case there is any misunderstanding: ANYONE who stands in front of a military armored tank and thinks they will stop it by their body, can only expect to get run over.

I suppose the good Dr. Brnd has dual citizenship. Which side are you on? Can't have it both ways. Decide. Have you read first hand accounts of the sailors who were on the Liberty and who were silenced? Even the Captain was silenced. And, as for declassification, wonder why? It certainly is not to save embarrassment of the US, but of Israel. Tell me that Israel does not have the US Congress/government in its pocket. Tell me and prove it. You decide from your comfort there in sunny San Diego.

How can you stoop so low as to call a young girl who sacrificed her life "Pancake Corrie"

"Palestine will be Free" "This is the motto of this organization, actually calling for the demise, the annihilation of the nation-state of the Jewish people." So just because an organization's motto is the freedom of Palestine, you equate that with the annihilation of Israel. Only a fool will say and believe such things. I might add a right wing fool...as I see you are a settler /thug living on stolen land.

Let's be perfectly clear, Rachel Corrie was NO terrorist, nor, as is often written about her, did she "hate" Jews or any other Israelis. What she hated were particular policies of the Israeli government, considered by many and not just Rachel, to be unjust. Those government policies are/were punitive and collectively punish the civilian Palestinian population. You can call Rachel many things - lovely, funny, creative, genuine - come to my mind, but if you call her a "terrorist" you are sorely ignorant of what she stood for - peace and "liberty and justice for all". Silly Rachel, she actually thought the words in her American Pledge of Allegiance should be taken seriously. She actually acted on what she believed and took those beliefs to an area of the world where she was sorely needed. Now just how many of us would have the guts to stand alone against the Israeli military and demand "justice for all"? That's not a "terrorist", that's a humanist.

Yes, dear Norman, you apparently are an "American," though you do not speak like one. Dual citizenship I suppose? Which side are you on? Can't have it both ways. Decide. If Israel, go there. Yes, every single sailor on the USS Liberty should have sued Israel. It was no "accident," and everyone knows it. (Or, maybe you think that Israel was really at war with the US, which is presently the truth.) It is high time that Israel is called to account for all of its misdeeds. Decide Norman.

During the forced evacuation of Gaza settlers were throwing rocks and battery acid at IDF soldiers. None of the settlers were killed. Not that I wish settlers dead, but can you imagine if they were Palastinians. How many of them would have been killed.

If the active advancing combat D9 armored bulldozer was operating under orders to keep moving forward and not STOP for any obstacles, human or otherwise, then it is a clear case of premeditated murder.

In most legal codes, there is a crime called something like "interference with the course of justice". If such a crime is in the Israeli cose, it would seem to me that the Defense Ministry - or maybe the Minister, as having overall responsibility - should face such a charge. Refusing permission for a material witness to enter the jurisdiction is about as blatant asn example as I have seen. Or are we supposed to believe it's for security reasons? Israel is incapable of providing an escort for this doctor to and from the court?

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out in an Israeli court; after all Israel is the shining democracy in the region..... right?

But the US will object over answering the 21 civilians they just butchered in Afghanistan.

Step by step, inch by inch but without doubt. Soon like China or mexico, then like Iran... witha little ex-Soviet Stalinist flavor to boot.

Many people here give a terrible image of their country by not being able to display the smallest sign of compassion towards a 24-year old American girl. She was killed during a peaceful protest against the illegal demolition of a house in Gaza, she did not do anything violent and was not a threat to anyone. I fear that such heartless reactions will only widen the gap between Israelis and American Jews. Let a fair, transparent trial be held in Israel and the guilty ones be sentenced for the sake of he family.

rachel was a young enthusiastic woman who thought she was fighting for a cause. i may not be enthusiastic about the terrorist cause ,but still a pray for her soul . silence and pray. i have confidence in the israeli justice.

Stop being biased people.....

It is the duty of Tsahal to make sure people engaging in peaceful protests are not harmed. Peaceful protests are highly respectable, even if one does not agree with the opinion at display.

"Does it stop and soldiers clear them away, or does it keep moving? Just wondering if there is two rules for their operation." Yes, funny how that works, isn't it? And why is it that they never seem to be able to catch those guys who burn down Palestinian olive groves? Maybe they disguise themselves as tennis players? Maybe the Dubai police would do a better job? I'm just sayin'.

In cases like these in the past there was no real rule of law. "However, the Defense Ministry blocked ..." No need to add anything.

"Fat cats like Ben Alofs push retards like Corrie as human shields in front of them" Always a cheery smile, ready wit and a humane observation from you, eh Abs? Never bitter or hate-filled invective.

100% of physical evidence establishes without doubt the incident was a friendly-fire tragedy, including recordings of Israeli radio-transmissions and gun camera photos whose authenticity the US does not dispute. Pointless to debate all this until the US declassifies the secret orders of the "Liberty"; still stubbornly kept classified by the Pentagon even after 43 years - the longest period any ships orders have been classified in US history. Declassification always occurs after 30 years at most. Not here. What is being hidden from the American people? Bottom Line: 1) Obviously the mission of the Liberty is not what was stated ("routine electronic surveillence"), or the orders would have been declassified long ago, 2) if Liberty's mission was to help the Israelis, that only reinforces the Friendly-Fire explanation of the apologetic Israelis, who paid compensation, 3) if the Liberty's mission was to help Arab states fighting Israel, the US would seem to have no cause for complaint.

when on a building site someone climbs on moving debris in front of a moving huge bulldozer, knowing every wrong step will very likely seal their demise, is it murder when it happens ? according to wikipedia it seems, the group didnt have a single emergency strategy on how to stop this monstrous (but slow) machine, in case someone gets under. from wiki: Smith also observed: "They'd always stopped before." did you really expect the driver to care for all the things yourself did not care about - including your life ?

Who was murdered in cold blood just for trying to help children escape Gaza. The poor guy who was shot in the head by an Israele sniper lived 9 months in a coma before he died. May he Rachel Corrie, James Miller and all those innocent killed by Israel rest in peace.

in front of them. Ben Alofs is supposed o be a doctor ,and pretends there are no accidents in Enland like it ,on pedestrian crossngs or in factories ,where those not heeding warning signs are crushed.Not to mention those crossing railway tracks on purpose ,just before the approaching train Must be Zionists behind it ,eh Alofs?

Its all high theater. US threw out, as having no merit, the lawsuit of anti-war protesters who used their bodies to block the movement of a train carrying nuclear weapons from a US storage depot - and were then run over by the train. These were US citizens, in the US. The grounds was that they were trespassing, and had ignored orders to leave the area. Members of an anti-Israel organization, involved in transporting terrorists to Israel who committed bombings in Tel Aviv, trespassing in a foreign country and ignoring orders to leave a military zone by Israeli authorities, attempting to disrupt a military operation, clearly have no standing to sue anybody for anything. Rachel Corrie caused her own death through her own negligence and recklessness - a US court would rule the same, as it did in an identical situation.

Does it stoop and soldiers clear them away, or does it keep moving? Just wondering if there is two rules for their operation.

she tried to interfere with the business of terrorists and was murdered. Like Tom Hurndall Don't worry you can use American taxpayers dollars to pay compensation and make it go away.

In 2002 JAGC US navy Ward Boston the head of the investigation into the US LIBERTY said there was no investigation. HE said I was ordered by Mcnamara and LBJ to conclude it was an accident and case of mistaken identity. When they asked him why did you lie he said I was a soldier and followed orders. Read his sworn affidavit. IT was a cover up. PS the Liberty was the sister ship to the Pueblo the most advanced listning survielance ship on the planet. TO believe Israel mistook this ship with it's massive array of radar for the cattle transport AL Quizar is insulting to the victims. Why Isin't Israel big enough to FESS up and admit the truth after all these years while victims of the USS liberty are still alive.

"Don`t expect the Jews to sit down and let the rest of the world trample them over. Those times are past." Oh those days are indeed long past, they get it. So they'll all just look the other way while you trample. Sorry they bothered you while you were trampling. Please, don't let them get in the way of your self-righteousness. You deserve it. And remember, whenever anyone questions you, just repeat this: "Don`t expect the Jews to sit down and let the rest of the world trample them over. Those times are past." It works every time.

Whether murder or manslaughter, it is high time that Israel be made to face the facts and stop obstructing the due process and course of justice that is due Rachel Corrie, a real heroine.

If there was no brutal drive for national 'purity of race' and an expansionist agenda by political Zionists, there would be no monster house demolishing bulldozers fueled with elitism. On 3 March 2003, Palestinian woman, Nuha Sweidan (nine months pregnant) was killed, allegedly by the same Israeli bulldozer that killed Rachel Corrie while it was destroying a house next to a refugee camp in Gaza. Palestinian witnesses said Mrs Sweidan bled to death beneath the rubble as she cradled her 18 month-old daughter. Her unborn child also died. (Reference: Counter Punch 15 March 2003 "War Without Balance" by Steve Niva)

As I understand from the few details I was able to read about her death, the lighting was poor as it was beginning to get darker towards evening. The bulldozer is a massive machine with poor visability due to armor plating as protection. It is a dreadful shame that this young lady was killed. I can only hope that it will be a fair investigation and that personal biases do not interfere with the outcome.

Rest in peace rachel corrie ! and Most of these Zionists will be put to justice in this decade or the next. only the good anti Zionists jews will remain and the rest will be defeated or exiled ! i hope haaretz posts this !

What do jews call those few Germans that stood in between the nazis and jews when the nazi tanks came ... hid jews in their own houses to save a life and risked their own lives and their familys lives as well. What happened to Never again .... was that just for jews ?

D9s think that witnesses know anything about them . instead of posting total crap as usual eric ask caterpillar about them as law in most civilised countries !

"However, the Defense Ministry blocked the family's request to allow Dr. Ahmed Abu Nakira from the Al-Najar Hospital in Rafah, who treated Corrie's injuries and later confirmed her death, to enter Israel. A request by Abu Hussein to question the physician via video conference was also rejected because "it is difficult to identify the witness and present him with documents". Like I said, you guys are really good at this. No obstacles allowed. No siree. Yes, this will indeed go nowhere. It's lovely to see how things really work in "the only democracy in the Middle East."

families suit didnt even make the news here in usa.so,dont worry israel your secrets are safe.the zionistpress is out to protect you.all(numerous)the bad press is buried.to paraphrase oliver stone;the only thing that can kill israel is israel.and you are well on your way.btw;let doctor testify.

Corrie was at the right place at the right time. The bulldozer was not, nor was the one who was driving it. The orders he had received were not justified. And such a political system can lead only to a messy and degrading situation.

And she was foolish enough to step in front of a bulldozer. Sad and tragic for her and her family. Reminds me of that nervous guy in "Goodfellas" who was killing everybody. In the end, he got it, and the same thing happened to Rachel. Don't expect the Jews to sit down and let the rest of the world trample them over. Those times are past.

can do no wrong right! very sad...its like an advertising campaign'selling line with a faulty promise, a product that doesnt deliver, ignorants keep on buying and believing in it...wake up people! their selling you lies under the pretext of security! reminds me of another time and space...

Do you know how many meters further you can see when you sit down on the drivers place? Probably he can not even notice her if the distance between her and the D9 was bellow 20m. Do you know how many seconds did it take a D9 traveling 30km/hour to stop when you press to the brakes? This is a D9 giant. Everybody here is speaking with their senses not with their minds. The buldozer does not drived on 24 old girl. The 24 old girl suddenly appers on the buldozers way. She had commited a suicade. Ari if you ever know something on how these machines were operated you can not claim what you are claiming now. A fair trial could not conviction would be not guilty for the driver.

Thye tractor is geared at 4 to 7 MPH, The Mummy could out run it, Rachael fell while standing shoulder with hamas and lost, nothing to be proud of....

while Ms. Corrie's death is tragic we need to put things in perspective. When one puts themselves in a volatile( war) zone there are risks that I'm sure she should or was aware of. Again its taking personal responsibility for one's actions. That being said I will still welcome those to activists to come testify at the trial including the doctor in Rafah. Let both sides present their case and let the chips fall where they may. However as I stated before she should have known that being in Gaza would endanger her life. We can all play armchair quaterback but you or none of you here blasting Israel was not their. You don't have the facts or the evidence to back up your "assertions".

From 1997 Dec to 1998 Jan, I was in Israel and one Israeli TV-channel showed on its TV-news these tunnels. So they*ve existed long before 2003! I think they started building them right after 1993 "peace treaty".

Apart from the brutality and inhumanity of the original murder, just look at the naked hate and racism in the messages from Israel's apologists and supporters here on talkback. For the ignorant, these are mainstream Israeli views, not the voices of a few extremists.

Your explanation of the orders to keep moving forward and not stop for obstacles,human or otherwise simply exposes the barbaric animals of the israeli milatary.

Yes sir, that was a regular ol' "construction site" over there. Accidents happen. That's some tortured tort you've got there, sergeant lawyer. But I forgot, you guys sure do know how to construct 'settlements' AND construct legal "justifications" for them at the same time! No obstacles there by golly. You sure do know your business. No fooling you guys.

The hate-filled and derogatory posts about Rachel Corrie illustrate one thing: apalling ignorance. Anyone who read Rachel's diaries would have concluded that she is anything but a fool, but woman of great intellect and moral courage. She was not there to protect tunnels. They did not exist in 2003! What Israel did at the time was to create a large no-man's land between the Egyptian border fence and the southern edge of the town of Rafah (the Philadelphi corridor). For that the Israeli army's D9 armoured bulldozers mercilesssly destroyed the family homes of 1000s of Gazans. Rachel and her friends were there to try and protect them against destruction. A D9 bulldozer has indeed a large blade, but the driver approached Rachel in a straight line and was clearly able to see her though the front window. Rachel wore a bright orange vest. I was there a few months after her death. A D9 approached me in a straight line. I saw the driver through the small window. He saw me allright!

"The lesson I hope the IDF learned from this tragedy is that NO outsiders are let into hugely violent places,which can be classified as dangerous for the outsiders* own safety and safety of others.Israel,from her part,needs to announce these territories RESTLESS WAR-ZONES, entrance to which must not be permitted to the outsiders." Yes!, call those, um, territories ... "RESTLESS WAR ZONES"! And no outsiders! Then we can do whatever we want and no one will know, see? (except those pesky palestinians, who are kind of authorized inside outsiders -- or is it outside insiders? -- sigh, anyway, they keep insisting on being insiders, those silly gooses --- that'll show 'em.

I am an Israel supporter. right, now we have that cleared up, I can express my opinion. The ISM motto should not be taken to call for the demise of Israel. It is true that Israel will not be free until Palestine is free. Their fates are intertwined. Israel should allow those members in to inquire about the death of poor Rachel Corrie, who I believe had a heart of gold and her family deserve see a proper investigation and a fair trial. We are hurting nobody but ourselves with this denial and refusal to have some introspection. Further, you are drawing comparisons and using terminology like "such people" which I feel can only promote more hatred, misunderstanding and separation between you and whom you perceive as your adversaries.

The mission of a bulldozer is to clear the ground, moving forward. I dare you to stand in front of a mechanized twenty-foot-tall vehicle that's moving on any regular construction site anywhere, and see if you don't get flattened right into the dirt. Do you know what the term "Contributory negligence" means? At common law, contributory negligence is an absolute defense. If a defendant successfully raises the defense, he would not be liable for the tort.

"defining Israel as a Jewish state discriminates against them" As a Zionist I have no problem in defining Israel as a Jewish State just like I don't with Italy as a Catholic State and Malaysia as a Muslim one. The principal of a Jewish State with other religions living side by side and in peace without discrimination is not unrealistic. In fact I am proud to say that Israel has achieved much here already. There is however undeniably some discrimination against Israeli Arabs although perhaps nowhere near as much as you believe. I repeat again what I have said many times before. NO discrimination is acceptable what so ever the Zionist vision was always to have all citizens of Israel regardless of religion living equally side by side with the same rights. There is discrimination and we as a people have to accept this first and then stop it. It must also be remembered Michael that Israel has had a lot to deal with and as a result discrimination becomes more common. However I am convinced Israel will one day overcome and prevail.

I have a question for Israeli Jew. Can one be opposed to terror and still support the palestinian cause? Why are we "Misguided", "Naive", or why are we "Jew haters" or "supporter of muderers"? a young person died trying in her mind to offer support to a "cause" in a "non aggressive" manner. And all you can do ( most pro israel) is speak ill of her. I am just perplexed at the amount of animosity and lack of compassion.

What really is the sad thing is for supporters of Israel and their hideous zionist mindset to belittle this brave young lady. As an american I have been paying part of my tax money to the State of Israel for over 45 years. To see them talk about my fellow americcan like that makes my blood boil. Such arrogrance and with such an entittlement mindset. It sickens me my government has anything to do with these people. Oh by the way that comment about jobs being created by us giving aid to Israel, well would it be nice if Isarel use their own money to buy our products instead of having us give them the money for it. I guess the people of Israel have no pride to use their own money. And yes nothing will come of it. When a non jew gets killed in Israel there never is any punishment. Look what happen with the Uss Liberty, no one was punished in killing 34 non jew americans.

Yeah, let us not forget all those silly people out there who lay down in front of huge moving bulldozers -- they're a real nuisance those silly gooses -- you never know when one of them is going to get a stupid idea like that -- why just the other day one of these sillies did that in my town and we just shook our head, tsk, tsk, tsk --- but I ask you, what can you do? --- so irresponsible of them. Sigh, what can you do with how irresponsible young people are nowadays --- now back in my day we really respected huge moving bulldozers and did not give silliness the time of day.

"... run over by an active advancing combat D9 armored bulldozer operating under orders to keep moving forward and not STOP for any obstacles, human or otherwise?" Remarkable country you've got there, sergeant ... "I was only following orders" ...which were ... "do not stop for human obstacles" Have you Israeli's lost all ability to see yourselves as you really are? As you really have become?

PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY for ourselves like for our own safety.IF we conscientiously risk it, it for sure is stupid and irresponsible behaviour. Unfortunately many young people tend to think that "others",not they themselves,are somehow obliged to mind their safety,no matter what foolish things they may do like jump before cars,drive recklessly or lay down before a moving bulldozer in front of them. Bulldozers are huge vehicles and drivers do not necessarily see what is down there before them. I don*t think the driver delibarately killed Corrie,whom he may have not seen lieing there on the ground before the bulldozer. The lesson I hope the IDF learned from this tragedy is that NO outsiders are let into hugely violent places,which can be classified as dangerous for the outsiders* own safety and safety of others.Israel,from her part,needs to announce these territories RESTLESS WAR-ZONES, entrance to which must not be permitted to the outsiders.

Was hundreds of miles from it's actual location. False flags are legal in naval warfare if they are lowered before commencing an attack.The Liberty could have belonged to any country the flag was no indication.

At lumping all Zionists together.Why not just adress the poster instead of claiming he represented Zionism?Especially in a website like this where you do not really know who is posting what, to set up for a reply.I have had numerous postings by others put out under my name here. Sorry Michael you wont get away with mass libel unchallenged if I can help it.

"Michael I actually think you are more balanced in your views than some of your posts suggest." Completely true. I also kmow that a lot of Zionists like yourself are also perfectly sane, decent human beings. I guess what I find frustrating is two things: 1) You're sane enough to recognise that the Pals and Arabs have been badly treated. Yes they've been stupid, yes they've committed crimes. But, the idea of building a Jewish political enitity in their backyard was always going to cause problems and today, defining Israel as a Jewish state discrimintaes against them. I know the UK still has some mostly redundant trappings of Christianity, but you do not suffer systematic discrimination in jobs, public finance, housing, immigration like Israeli Arabs. 2) You're sane enough to realise that Israel needs to make major concessions because IT has all the power, IT has all the land. And you're sane enough to realise that Bibi's merry band have little interest in peace.

...that the parents and the family want to know all the details of their daughter's death -like anybody, who has lost the member of the family -especially when it seems that the truth is still unclear. To go trough with "the sorrow work", it is necessary...Like those UN soldiers killed in Lebanon by "the operational mistake", the families were never allowed to get any details or no kind of possibility to know the real truth.It is more than cruel way to react to the terrible loss of the families.

trying to stop an IDF bulldozer from razing her shack , she would have been seen as a hero in israeli circles.Corrie was murdered and whoever killed her should pay the penalty .

The signals Liberty was recording included real-time communications by Israeli forces in Sinai which were transmitted to the British station at Cyprus for decoding and analysis. And the Brits passed the info straight on to Nasser. Nasser and the Brits, USSR and US hoped Egypt could use the info to salvage something akin to a "draw" in Sinai. (The whole crisis had been manufactured to stop Israel getting the N-bomb. War was not supposed to happen, but Nasser let it all get to his head and went way further in hi aggression against Israel than he was supposed to.) The OB intelligence from the Liberty, and its proposed use by Nasser, was the real reason that, despite the beating Egypt was taking on the battlefield, Nasser didn't seek a ceasefire in the UN - not until 8 June 1967, right after the Liberty was put out of action. I feel sorry for the US sailors. They were victims not of Israel, which was defending its life in wartime, but of big power politics of which they knew nothing

People who write that she knew the risks seem to forget one thing: you don't drive your bulldozer over a 24-year old girl. The driver should have stopped his activity, knowing he was putting a young girl's life at risk. He did not, and should be prosecuted for this unforgivable negligence which has tainted the image of Israel abroad. A fair trial is necessary to restore that image.

Michael I actually think you are more balanced in your views than some of your posts suggest. I think you seriously believe that Zionism has evolved into a racist and hate filled ideology. I am pleased to say you are mainly incorrect. Of course there are some minority elements of extremism however the overwhelming majority of Zionists are not filled with hate or anger. It is just simply not true to suggest this and nearly all are in fact quite moderate and just want to see a peaceful solution. Please do not judge all Zionists by some of the posts here. Most Israelis and Israel supporters are far more moderate than I think you believe and are not driven by hate.

when you demand fair justice and work for peace, it's clear that you automatically "commit suicide". Remember Jesus and, not so far, Itzaak Rabin. Are those people guilty for their own death or have they, somehow, shown the whole world the scoria under the thin golden napkin ?

These dead American Sailors have never given justice. From both Israel and the US military that they gave their lives for.

The coverup of the incident started immediately, with then President Johnson.

The US was supplying the Arabs with intelligence? That's a new take on it. It was gathering intelligence, but for US use, and not to be shared with Egypt. From what I've read it does suggest a classical "fog of war" incident. The not too nice bit was however shooting at rescue boats as they were launched from the USS Liberty. D

The IDF didn't make a mistake. Just as it didn't back in 2003 when they shot Brian Avery (cause there was no IDF patrol in the area, supposedly). And it didn't lie in the case of Tom Hurndall (where justice actually prevailed and his killer was tried and found guilty), and it didn't lie in the case of the UNRWA employee Iain Hook (shot in the back by an IDF sniper) and in other cases. I am not claiming IDF was guilty, but I do think it's finally time after nearly 7 years a transparent and fair trial is held. And frankly, calling Rachel Corrie names speaks volumes about people using these words. D.

and ended up dead... She made a deadly mistake. This suit is baseless.

the US was providing intelligence to the Arabs (Israel's enemies) in the time of war before the USS Liberty was mistakenly hit.

Are you saying she intentionally went there to help terrorists? Are you saying all Palestinians are terrorists? Israel destroys Palestinians homes as a form of collective punishment. This is a very well known fact. I strongly beleive she went there in a desperate attempt to protest this mindless policy and paid with her life. The least you and other can do is show some respect even if you do not share her views.

We are not justfiying the killing of anybody. We are talking about the killing of rachel Corrie. IDF does not kill her but she commits a suicade by being closer less then 15 meters to a 120 tons buldozer. It seems you forget everything. Every month Palies were killing 20 Israelis in the middle of the cities. Saddam was sending 20000 $ for a suicade bomber. As a precaution Israel was demolishing the house of the suicade bomber. I don't wait to understand what the humanity Israel beneath here. Israel was sending messages to their families not to agitate to be a suicade bomber. We know how to deal with them Sadly the language they will understand is violence. Other than violence doesn't stop them. When you look back you'll grasp how effective remedies were taken. Why to day Israel does not destruct people homes? There is no tragedy in her history, but violence. How can you explain the burning of USA flag in the middle of Ramallah by her. Aby

"Saying that she was helping terrorists is outrageous." Denying that she was is completely out of touch with reality. "Blaming the victim" You mean, a victim who deliberately flew out to a war zone and placed herself smack-dab in front of a vehicle (known for massive blind spots) conducting a military operation? How do you know the driver of the bulldozer wasn't a victim, given some foolish girl was encouraged to place herself in harm's way? This guy has to live with this naive kid's death on his head with a bunch of hateful rejects around the world attempting to portray him as a murderer. He didn't ask her to interfere in a 90-year-old ethnic war. She chose to do so herself, and she had plenty of help.

" Some people here should have more respect for this young woman. They give a terrible image of themselves by writing heartless things." Don't try to sell us on something beyond the fact that Corrie was VERY complicit in her own death. She entered a war zone and attempted to impede a military action. Plus, there were the lies the ISM was caught telling shortly after the incident. You can't blame people for holding that naive young lady, the ISM and her parents responsible to some degree. You put an untrained, naive young idealist into a hotbed of violence -- you hold some responsibility. Anyone who thinks they can stop the violence between these people in such a manner suffers from acute delusions. You think you can enter a war zone, interfere with a military action, and be guaranteed no harm will come to you? Shame on you cretins for using this poor woman as another tool to bash Israel -- as if she, and those who encouraged her don't share the lion's share of the blame.

"The reality is that if something really offended you you would have said something.It hasn`t and you haven`t." By that reasoning, you presumably approve of posts 10 by Flattened, 15 by Dov Koret, 22 by James Meeker. Here are quotes you seem to be supporting: "the tramp hated Jews, Israel and America Name: Flattened. I will eat a stack of pancakes in her honor." "arafarts bit on the side commited suicide. As she was no virgin she was rejected entry to paradise....DK" "Pancake Corrie supported murderers And she jumped in front of a bulldozer to protect weapons smugglers." OK, I'll cross you off my sane Zionist list and add you to my nutty Zionist list if that makes you happy. Enjoy your pancakes.

but she chose to go where she didn't belong, chose to attempt to be a heroine by putting herself in the path of a bulldozer. Too bad she didn't have more common sense.

"so israel planned to prevent witnesses from testifying by denying them visas? clearly no "hits" involved here, but isn`t the elimination of witnesses pretty much the modus operandi of mobsters trying to beat their rap in court?" Israel already conducted an investigation, and knows the motives of those who are trying to capitalize upon the misguided girl's death. Is double jeopardy some kind of modus operandi of anti-Israelis? Everyone who tries to harm Israel (in some way), but gets harmed themselves -- get as many chances as it takes to succeed? You have screwey notions about justice, eric.

one is in the wrong place at the wrong time and chooses to get in a confrontation with a tank, the tank is probably going to come out on top ( no pun intended). It happened in China. It happened in the former USSR. It happened in Germany. One cannot, with impunity, defy the laws of physics in such a way. At least this seems to be what common sense dictates .

The response of some readers to this tragedy is just amazing. Blaming the victim who tried to stop the destruction of people's homes cannot be justified. Saying that she was helping terrorists is outrageous. What is more amazing is that these cruel responses come from people with such tragic history having been victimized in the past. It is hard to explain!

won't wash. Zionists support a Jewish homeland they come in all shapes and sizes.Trying to paint them all with the same brush is as logical as implying,by lies of ommission,that all Palestinians are peace lovers who only ever wanted or want to live in peace side by side with Israel. The reality is that if something really offended you you would have said something.It hasn't and you haven't.

Some people here should have more respect for this young woman. They give a terrible image of themselves by writing heartless things.

It's hard to understand why israeli authorities don't let all the witness testify in front of the Court. This is not an acceptable practice. A 24-year old was killed and the author of this horrible act must be sentenced for it once it has been established whether he acted on purpose or by negligence. This affair has given a terrible blow to the image of Israel in the US, it's important to make sure a transparent, fair trial is held this time.

Since when are houses found in the middle of motorways? She was near a house on someone's land, not in the middle of a motorway.

First, if you stood on a highway trying to save endangered people, you would be called a hero. Secondly, cars are not made for killing people and demolishing houses. Tanks are.

I commend Ms Corrie Parents for tirelessly fighting to bring the murderer of their daughter to justice .

by denying them visas? clearly no "hits" involved here, but isn't the elimination of witnesses pretty much the modus operandi of mobsters trying to beat their rap in court?

Don't let me down here Peter. I've been viweing you as a voice of Zionist comparative sanity. I probably wouldn't post when some pro-Pal makes a vicious hateful comment about an Israeli death, because I would leave that up to you and your lot. What genuinely worries me is the point I'm making. Zionism per se doesn't have to be hate-filled. You can, theoretically be patriotic without hating others. Yet increasingly I see some really nasty comments from Israel's supporters, real hate-filled poison. Pancake Corrie. Yeah, really funny for her family. Zionism is becoming more isolated and extreme, both inside Israel and out. You really need to watch out for that, because Jewish extremisn can do much more damage to Israel than Arab extremism.

The ruling banning the doctor's testimony might just be the straw that allows a US suit to go forward. It is hard to have a fair trial if key testimony is banned from introduction. Wonder how the Israeli government might like a Tacoma jury. I doubt the US would object to the doctor's testimony, in person, via video or by tape transcript.

Experience it then judge who is wrong or right? Who ever been experience it, would grasp immeadiatly what would happen to a guy who get closer to the buldozer, he or she doesnt has to be an IDS member it could happen to any ordinary people, just try it if you have the courage, I suggest not to try. The operator could not hear you, could not see you. It is forbidden to get closer less then 15 m radius to a buldozer. This is not a car that weights 1.4 t. It is 120 tons. The noise is tremendous, you feel the terrain trembling like an earthquake. If you get closer thats your responsibilty, you sign your own death. This is not the fault of IDF. Corie commits a suicade, shows to everybody a good example on how a buldozer security must be. Aby

Even more sad is that it seems sometimes that this is true about most matters regarding the Palestinians. What has become of our own conscience and morality?

and got killed could you sue the driver that killed you ?? the corrie family have failed to consult the rules concerning ordinary use of D9s and similar construction machinery .

"No investigation was ever done" Except for the SEVERAL investigations which were performed and concluded that it was an accident of war. What planet are you on?

is the obama administration willing to acknoowledge that houses in rafah ar used as entrences to tunnels through which iranian and syrian missiles are smuggled into gaza? is the obama administration willing to acknowledge that gaza was and remains a war zone?

dead or alive that has ever needed your attention gfrom the moral high ground,moved you to hyperbole? You sir give hypocrisy a bad name. PS you forgot"LOL".

Carefully reading the Bible, one can come to understand that the only weapons God allows are : the arc (bow), symbol of the tongue ; the arrow, symbol of the word of truth ; and the sword, symbol of justice. None of those weapon can kill a man or make blood flow. How come those religious people advising politics at the Knesset didn't explain these basic informations to them. Didn't they come back to the Holy Land to serve God ? Or then, did they only come back to HaMedinah (the State) for a Judgment (din)? The Bible is clear : They heritate the place IF they practice the God's Law. When they reverse God's word's (as explained in prophet Jeremiah) and use violence and cunning, can they still legitimize their stay in the Holy Land. shouldn't only no-violent people be allowed to stay on that Land ? And be a model to the whole world.

Tax money for Israel stays in the USA generating jobs and taxes in the USA. http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=167194 Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has surrounded himself with many of the corrupt officials who used to work for his predecessor, Yasser Arafat, and that?s why Hamas will one day take control of the West Bank, Fahmi Shabaneh, who was appointed by Abbas four years ago to root out corruption in the Palestinian Authority, said on Thursday. In an exclusive interview with The Jerusalem Post, Shabaneh, who until recently was in charge of the Anti-Corruption Department in the PA?s General Intelligence Service (GIS), warned that what happened in the Gaza Strip in the summer of 2007, when Hamas managed to overthrow the Fatah-controlled regime, is likely to recur in the West Bank.

who deliberately sent young idealists into danger.

Here is what would happen for the Corrie family: Eventually, the court will grant the Corrie family few millions as compensations, then the American tax money will be used to pay the check. So, Israel is always in a win-win situation and the Americans are in a loose-loose situation.

From most respondents to this article it is quite clear that there is no respect for human life in Israel... unless it is for the life of a Jew - IF that Jew is not also seen as a possible threat in uncovering the lies, corruption and deceit of Jewish politicians.

putting foreigners into danger for its publicity value. Who tell their members to lie to get into Israel? Who pose for photos with weapons? Who tell lies to get funding from Bithright to get to Israel.

"In other words, join the community of nations and at least make an effort to respect the rule of law." Just like your troops are doing in Afghanistan now? Or is it only a warcrime when Israel makes a mistake?

People shouldn't do that!

The worst thing about Zionism today is the sheer hatred that seems so much a part of it for so many of its fans. You may not be a fan of Rachel Corrie, but poster 1, she was not helping smuggle weapons to Hamas and did not deserve to die, however much hatred you may have for Palestinians. Show a bit of respect and humanity. Would you like someone posting to say that an Israeli civilian deserved to die?

She should not have been here in the first place. If anything, she should have been protesting the US "war crimes" instead of sticking her nose in somebody else's business. Let her and people like her clean their own houses before coming to clean mine. And she DEFINITELY should not have been standing in front of a huge army bulldozer with very restricted sight lines.

Yes, Rachel Corrie was killed by an Israeli bulldozer... and by the cynical, hateful morons at the ISM who spew anti-Zionism on American and European college campuses and grad schools... and who then deliberately recruit from amongst their most zealous new "converts" so that they can put these young idealists on the front lines of a 60+ war, that most of them have no business becoming involved in. Sadly, Corrie was treated as a pawn from day one. I'm sure she believed wholeheartedly in what she was doing there at Rafah. But she was an ISM pawn, nonetheless. Same tactic was used in the U.S. Civil Rights movement in the early 1960s with Freedom rides and voter registration drives. Deliberately put a white, middle-class activist in harm's way, knowing full well that "if" they are harmed or killed, it'll generate extra outrage in the media. It actually works quite well.

From today's news headlines:"American-led efforts to avert civilian deaths in the war against the Taliban suffered a new blow over the weekend when a NATO airstrike in southern Afghanistan killed about two dozen civilians; it's the second attack in a week to kill Afghan civilians. A week earlier, U.S. Marines killed 12 Afghans during the ongoing offensive in the Taliban stronghold of Marjah in southern Afghanistan". We are sorry for Rachel death, but S--t happens. BTW, unlike the poor Afghani civilians, she choose to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and ended up paying with her young live. Do not blame TZAHAL.

I will go out on a limb here ( notice the sarcasm) and predict that the Israeli Courts will clear the bulldozer driver ( and Israel) of all charges, and find that it was just "an accident" - caused by Rachel's "irresponsible behavior". And that the US will feel that they have done their duty - although it took them seven years to put some pressure on Israel to even hold an investigation. And that's only due to the persistence of Rachel's family, not out of US concern for the killing of a US citizen in Israel. May she rest in peace.

....in the history of the Jewish state. Until those responsible for that heinous act will be brought to justice in Israel....

Just imagine an Israeli traveling to Afghanistan and helping Taliban smuggle weapons to kill American Soldiers. That Israeli is killed by mistake by American soldiers. Do you think that anyone would try to turn her into a hero or an innocent victim? Her death is simply being used a s a club to try and beat Israel.

defending the helpless

Palestine will be Free". This is the motto of this organization, actually calling for the demise, the annihilation of the nation-state of the Jewish people. Why should Israel allow its members in? And why should the US administration ask that such people be permitted to land on Jewish soil? Would America allow members of Bin-Laden to come and testify and then go back home to stir more terror against its citizens...??

Is Israeli society ever going to learn? What will it take? Whatever sympathies one had for them is gone, never to come back. How did these people get to be this way?

Her voice has been silenced for too long. Shame on Israeli govt for not coming clean and prosecuting the murderer of this young woman. Shame to those who torpedoed the play about her life. My Name is Rachel which tried to play in Toronto but due to pressure from pro-israel groups the theater did not let it perform. I pray for justice for this courageous young woman.

"A request by Abu Hussein to question the physician via video conference was also rejected because 'it is difficult to identify the witness and present him with documents.'" My ass. Let him into Israel to testify and bring his evidence. You call yourself a "Western" democracy? Israel makes a daily mockery of the rule of law. Rachel Corrie did not deserve to die by a pissed off bulldozer driver. If Israel disputes this, then let the doctor from Rafah testify along with any other witness that could possibly shed light on what happened. In other words, join the community of nations and at least make an effort to respect the rule of law.

And she jumped in front of a bulldozer to protect weapons smugglers. It might have been the exact people who she protected that murdered John Branchizio, Mark Parson, 31, John Martin Linde, 3 Americans in Gaza to help award Fulbright Scholarships in 2003. These men were blown up with 150 lbs. of explosives smuggled from Egypt via the tunnels that Corrie protected.

This is a blow to the corrie family, of course isrl will nto allow some people in because they woudl rather hide the truth about what really happened. jews killed this woman, and they should pay for it. She was being a true humanitarian, trying to do what her gov't refused to do. God bless Rachel and her family, and every activist for all eternity. They are truely Gods chosen.

Anyone who has ever heard the story of Rachael Corrie will never forget

Rachel Corrie was a stupid young woman who put her nose where it did not belong. You do not interfere in the business of terrorists...you do not support murdering thugs. Sadly she paid the ultimate price for her stupidity but when you stick your neck out sometimes the knife catches it. How many people visit Israel yearly...hundreds of thousands...they come and sight see...eat and enjoy themselves and go home Not Rachel Corrie..she came to instigate and to aid terrorists. Do I feel sorry for Rachel Corrie...NO...do I feel sorry that her family lost their daughter...Yes because it is always tragic to loose a child...Do I think they deserve one red cent NO NO NO...I did not know you get rewarded for supporting terror.Let them go home to the states,where they belong,and shut up. As for Obama what can I say..he also puts himself where he does not belong...stupid is as stupid does....

A bulldozer with a shovel that is bigger and taller than you are. What did you expect would happen? It's like a kid running into the street in between parked cars in front of a moving car. The driver doesn't even see you. It's her own fault. She should have stayed home and written letters if she felt any twisted passion.

arafarts bit on the side commited suicide. As she was no virgin she was rejected entry to paradise....DK

...still continuing to create a huge problem for itself by not letting the doctor in Rafah testify.

The killers who committed this crime and killed a defensless american citizen must be brought to justice, but I do not expected from a justice system that worked deligently to ignore it the last 7 years. The Uited states should insist on a free and transparent investigation led by an outside party. God bless you Rachel may you rest in peace.

No investigation was ever done

so what is new, it has been the politics of a racist, apartheid state of Israel to kill and humiliate. The thugs in Israeli government and leadership only understand pressure, force and sanction; their unconscionable efforts to destroy the spirit of Palestinians and their allies have failed spectacularly and it will only harm the citizens of Israel. it is time to bring the criminal politicians and solders of Israel to international courts and treat them just like slobodan milosevic and Karadzic in committing crimes against civilian.

I will eat a stack of pancakes in her honor.

She was acting as a soldier,even if she apparently had no weapons.SHE COULD HAVE AN EXPLOSIVES BELT UNDER HER DRESS.As we say to children in Brazil-:"If you play with matches,you wet your bed at night...".Sorry,she was playing with matches...Should have choosen a better way to apply her energy and life

No responses to this article? How strange. Israel has no defense for this attitude. Just as it did not for the USS Liberty bombing and its constant spying of the US. Israel is fast losing its only real friend in the world, without which it is in deep and isolated trouble.

Corrie should have read the words of Gene Sharp. He said that that the PLO leaders had one faith, one faith in violence. Corrie was great - but the apologist for terror have sacrificed her. Can we end the violence, as prescribed in Tehran and Damascus?

It is about time that the world is informed of the murder of rachel corrie , and that the israeli govt practices and cover ups are brought to light !! However i fear it will come to naught .....They always cry they are the victim ..

If she could not see the driver (and she couldn't), the driver could not see her. Maybe Corrie's heart was in the right place, but her brain that day was on vacation.

r to Sharon ...Interesting take on the matter by the Bambi..

Jeez, next thing you know, there will be all kinds of copy cat lawsuits against Israel. Get over it people. Israel is at war. In war, people get killed.

The wheels of justice often turn slowly- in Israel they rarely turn at all for non-Jews. May the Corrie family find justice. Rachel represents the best of what America has to offer.

I am not a lawyer, but I wonder how much the actions of Corrie herself were a contributing factor in being run over by an active advancing combat D9 armored bulldozer operating under orders to keep moving forward and not STOP for any obstacles, human or otherwise?