Israel gives green light to armored vehicles for Palestinian Authority
IDF supports move in light of what it considers as the impressive improvement in security cooperation between Israel and the PA.
By Barak Ravid, Amos Harel and Avi IssacharoffThe defense establishment has advised the government to allow the Palestinian Authority to import 50 Russian-made armored vehicles - something Israel has been refusing to do for five years now.
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Members of a special unit of the Palestinian security forces take part in a training session in the West Bank town of Qalqilya on April 1, 2010. |
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Russia first proposed giving the vehicles, which are armored only against light weapons, to the PA security services more than five years ago, in an effort to strengthen the rule of PA President Mahmoud Abbas. In March 2008, toward the end of Ehud Olmert's term as prime minister, Israel finally informed the Russians that it would approve the deal - but only if the number was halved to 25 and the vehicles were altered so that it would be impossible to mount a machine gun on them.
The PA agreed to these restrictions, saying it needed the vehicles to maintain law and order and deter Hamas. But in practice, the deal never went through, because Jerusalem got cold feet after the decision provoked a storm of criticism from the right wing, which accused it of repeating the mistakes of the Oslo era - when weapons Israel gave the PA were later turned on Israeli soldiers and civilians.
In the meantime, the Russians sent 50 of the vehicles to Jordan, where PA security personnel were trained in their use as part of a wider American-led training program aimed at upgrading the PA's security capabilities. Recently, the PA again began asking that the vehicles be allowed in, raising the issue with both Israel and the United States.
Both the Israel Defense Forces' Central Command and the coordinator of government activities in the territories have recommended that the government accede to this request, in light of the impressive improvement in security cooperation between Israel and the PA. A security official told Haaretz that as long as the vehicles cannot mount machine guns, they pose no danger to Israeli forces.
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Palestinian children holding up pictures in support of PA President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank city of Nablus, July 17, 2010. |
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But it seems likely that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak will seek to link this gesture to the effort to persuade the PA to move from indirect to direct diplomatic negotiations.
As part of this effort, the U.S. announced this week that it will upgrade its diplomatic relations with the PA by granting its mission in Washington - which is actually a PLO mission - the same status it enjoys in most European countries: that of a PLO "general delegation."
This is still a lower status than an embassy - a status the PA mission does have in many African and Asian countries, as well as some European and South American states. But it is a major step above what the PA has had until now.
Prior to this decision, the PA mission in Washington was at a very low level from the point of view of protocol: Its diplomats did not have diplomatic immunity, and it was not even allowed to fly the PLO flag at the entrance to its offices.
Now, its diplomats will enjoy diplomatic immunity and its offices will be able to display the PLO flag.
The PA has been seeking an upgrade in diplomatic relations ever since U.S. President Barack Obama took office last year. But after 18 months without progress, it was surprised to suddenly receive a letter from the State Department on Tuesday announcing that the U.S. had agreed. The letter was sent to Maen Areikat, who heads the PLO mission in Washington.
The Americans began seriously considering the upgrade two weeks ago as one of several steps it intends to take in an effort to entice Abbas into direct talks with Israel. A week ago, American officials contacted both the Israeli embassy in Washington and the Prime Minister's Office in Jerusalem to see whether Israel would object to the upgrade, a senior Israeli official said. Netanyahu responded that he had no objections.
A senior Palestinian official confirmed the upgrade, and stressed that this is more than a symbolic step. "This move will enable PLO officials and Palestinian diplomats to operate in Washington in an official and orderly manner," he said.
The U.S. has also promised that if the PA does agree to direct talks, the construction freeze in the settlements will continue, and "not one house will be built," Abbas said this week.
Abbas made this claim three days ago, in an address to his Fatah movement's Revolutionary Council. But since the media were barred from that meeting, it became known only yesterday, when the PA published it on its official website, Wafa.
In his speech to the council, Abbas said he has not yet received sufficiently clear answers from the Americans about other issues that he wants settled before the talks begin, and is therefore not yet willing to agree to them. While Obama sent him a message that contained very positive statements on the subject of borders, he said, they were "not positive enough."
Abbas said he would submit a definite response to Washington's request for direct Israeli-Palestinian talks on July 28, but his basic position is that direct talks will be possible only if sufficient progress is first made on the issues of borders and security during the indirect talks now being conducted with American mediation.
PA officials said this week that the PA has asked Israel for answers on several specific points relating to these issues, and will not agree to direct talks unless the replies are satisfactory. But so far, they said, Israel has not responded.
The PA's insistence on a complete settlement freeze stems from the fear that its image will suffer severely if it agrees to direct talks without one. It also fears that Israel is not really serious about the talks, and would therefore rather wait until September, when the 10-month freeze on settlement construction expires, to see whether Israel extends it. If so, the PA might view that as a sign of good faith on Netanyahu's part. White House spokesman Thomas Vietor said, "This decision reflects our confidence that through direct negotiations, we can help achieve a two-state solution with an independent and viable Palestine living side by side with Israel. We should begin preparing for that outcome now, as we continue to work with the Palestinian people on behalf of a better future."
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This is patently stupid. All that will happen is that thsesAPC's will be used against Israel during the next intifada. Or worse yet, they will fall into the hands of hamas who has conclusively proven that can best fatah anytime they want. Stupid is as stupid does!
"Control the militant elements in the West Bank!" "OK. Er........what with?" "See, you can't be trusted!"
..Why not integrating these merceneries in their IDF?!. The next step will be moving them to attack gaza strip!! . The israelis will never learn from their erroneous vicious planning .
What happens when terrorists get hold of these things and use them to ram checkpoints and border crossings? Soilders run the risk of being killed and the only ground vehicles capable of stopping them are tanks and if you don't have one of them around you have a problem? With the midterms coming all Bibi needed to do was say to Obama tell Jordan not to deliver them and once it was out the media the things probably would never end up getting delivered certainly not for many years to come. This was a stupid move by the Israeli government and it is Oslo over again. It's only a matter of time before they end up in the hands of terrorists who will use them to kill Soliders then the goverent will have their blood on it's hands. We need to keep the palestiniansas weak as possible.
...they need schools, hospitals and jobs. All these measures are designed to strengthen Israel's hold on the Palestinians. Describing this "Law and Order" is nonsense. One only needs to take a tour around the West Bank to see the reality of Israel's suffocating control.
We can't penetrate the West Bank, the PA wants to manage itself, otherwise we'd have ridden you from corruption and gave it to you. Unfortunately, we can only allow things, not control them, not force buildings in. This would be seen as cooperation witht the enemy (us).
"Israel would approve the deal - but only if the vehicles were altered so that it would be impossible to mount a machine gun on them. " REALLY? What magic "alteration" will make it "impossible" to mount machine guns? No such thing. Any dimwit with a blowtorch can put a .50 cal mount in front of a hatch, not to mention putting gunports anywhere else. Make no mistake, the next time combat erupts, these vehicles in the hands of the PA will result in higher IDF and Israeli civiliain casualties before the Merkavas and Apaches get around to knocking them out. But what's a few more dead Israelis to Israeli leaders, if they are "the price of peace"? Just a few more Bar Lev line sacrifices.
israels worse nightmare .in order to have peace and stabilty israel must arm and teach pals to fight extremists. which means money ,arms and and anti-terrorism tactics.israel has to teach and help those who they wanted to kill. like the U.S in iarq
It has proven it time and again: if Israel wants to kill someone in its territory, it does so. We never wanted to kill any of your guys. Except for the terrorists, which we don't help. Infact, the enemies of our enemies are our friends.
we need more weapons to protect our selfs from extremist.
Never saying thanks, always saying "it was about time". And asking again for more. Why, in these conditions, would we give you more stuff? Making thousands of gestures to receive nothing in exchange?
The US, EU, Russia and Arab states have all agreed to 67 borders with land swap, with Israel and PA on board to some degree. Netanyahu is pushing no land for peace except for A areas and Gaza, which is status quo currently. Bottom line is that Netanyahu will have few options except to delay some and Obama will get needed peace deal but at cost to Israel in room to grow.
You fail to realize two things: 1) The PA wants to continue the armed struggle to "liberate" Jaffa Akko Lod Ramle etc." 2) Lots of Jews living in the 50 miles between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean like to stay alive. So . . . If you and "the US, EU, Russia, the world etc." somehow force whoever is running the Israeli government to create the PA state in the West Bank, this territory WILL BE USED (make no mistake) to launch attacks on 9 mile wide Israel, as you will have given the PA the land they need to launch the Palestinian War of Independence. What happens next is blood on the hands of the peacemakers and statesmen, because the status quo, for all its flaws in better then the bloodbath a PA state will cause. Primum Non Nocere. Local "tribal and clan" rule by Palestinians in "the territories" with the IDF in charge of the 50 miles between the Jordan and the Med, was way better for all parties, including Palestinians, that what the post 1990 Peace Processes have wrought. I.E. a generation of Palestinians who think that blowing up Jewish babies in Sbarros is holy martyrom, according to PA TV, newspapers and leaders, who YOU peace processors have installed over the Palestinian people.
This sounds like it will be a "What Were They Thinking" episode on the Jay Leno Tonight Show.
For those with reading impairments, the vehicles are bullet resistant, not armed. Arms cannot be mounted. The vehicles are not weapons that can be used against Israelis. They are just a little bullet resistant. READ PARA-GRAPH TWO SLOW-LY. As to the diplomatic upgrade by the US. It looks like Palestine will come to be. This is good. The US upgraded Israel to state before anybody else. And we didn't ask anybody's permission either.
To alot of people here every Palestinian is a terrorist and every vehicle they drive is a weapon.
Make no mistake, if one of those vehicles is driven by a terrorist thinking the moment is right, he will make use of it. We can't trust every PA officer, since we don't control them.
Rather than cooperation, I'd rather say "collaboration".
First, these weapons will be used against Israel. Second, how can Israel claim it wants a demilitarized PA state if it allows them armored cars? This is insane and will cost Jewish lives. Stop this insanity now!!
Those who forget history are destined to repeat it. You are 100% right that these weapons will be turned on Israel and the IDF. It is just a matter of time.
to to make idiotic assumptions
If you can't mount these trucks with weapons, you can always do some drive by. After all, theseare more resistant than most Palestinian shiny cars.
Military vehicles given to someone who you are recently at war with, and you won? Gee, do you think Germany, Japan and Italy might have needed approval from the Allies for varying things? Or do you not know how the world works?
Israel OCCUPIES
starts with the rockets. Will comments still be ignorant.
Lieberman: continuation of the settlement moratorium was both “impossible and unreasonable.”