Israel bars Palestinian expert on settlements from travel abroad

Some free thinkers over there as if they could hide the truth in this day and age. Get real! Dutch

isreal is afraid of what the world would know that the whole thing about it stealing land for security is all shame the wall is really for steal more land

"the plo sent this guy, one of arafat`s cronies, to arizona state to take some master`s level courses on using map-drawing software"~l.brnd he obtained his ba IN geography at the university of damascus in 1974, and an ma in geographic information science at arizona university in 1998. your assertion about him being an arafat crony is based in conjecture, but even then, it doesn't matter if he was...any more or less than all the zionist cronies employed by israel. also, if you think that an ma in gisci is simple mapmaking, then you haven't a clue of what you're talking about. and maybe you weren't aware "doc", but it takes more than a "couple master`s level courses" courses to acquire an ma...and a whole lot more than mapmaking software to acquire one in gisci. all said doc[?], your implication that he's not a geographer is groundless. you're the propagandist!

I'm afraid you Israel1sters - spectactularly Brnd and TOMY - are displaying the classic arrogance of the powerful, the thing that disgusts people about Israel all over the world. The question is: "by what right does Israel restrict the freedom of this man?" Your answer is "because he's a Palestinian propagandist". OK, Brnd: you're an Israeli propagandist. Does that give a country the right to lock you up and not let you leave? So this is a gesture to show no compromise with Abbas; unfortunate that some third party gets imprisoned. Just the same argument could be used about Shalit.

then you might be right. although everything else you say is negated by that fact. but of course, i'm basing what i say on genetic studies, and you're basing yours on zionist propaganda.

and more importantly, i wonder who it was within whomever's circle who forewarned shin bet of who whoever intended to consult.

Mr. Khalil Tufakji the expert. According to the article: "He heads the cartography department of the Arab Studies Society, established in 1980 to document the social, political and cultural history of the Palestinians." Interesting that it started in 1980, you see prior to that there were no Palestinians. What culture? What language? What money? What president before Arafat? What country? They are Arabs no different from any other Arab. This myth of the Palestinian Arab. According to the PLO leadership this is what was said in 1977: "Zahir Muhsein, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee, told the Dutch newspaper Trau on March 31, 1977: The Palestinian people does not exist . . . . The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

ohhhhhhhhhhh-SHIT! i forgot! it's not what you blow; it's what you know!

Israel is no longer going to allow the PLO Tunis gang, given access by the Oslo fraud to W. Bank and Gaza, to wage terror and propaganda campaigns against Israel while they enjoy all the advantages of peace and VIP treatment. Israel isn't locking up this clown "expert", they just "postponed" his plans until August 2010 for security reasons, which they have a perfect right to do. If Abbas wants to play games instead of negotiate, Israel can do that too. No more gestures, no more VIP treatment. Hey, their "expert" can travel when Shalit travels. And you know what...its working - Abbas sees the game is over, no more freebies, and he's going to start talks February 20 - no more "freeze" idiocy. Abbas needs to tell everybody how he's going to get Hamas out of Gaza and disarmed in a peace deal that Hamas says it will never accept in any form. We're waiting. Even a "partial" answer from Abbas is demandedc, in exchange for Bibi's partial "freeze", which ends in August and will not be renewed.

Israeli government or Israeli gangsters? Who is negotiating on the Israeli side?

Yes, it certainly might...we could find out just what Israel is doing to the Palestinians...

Tafakji is the PA's head geographer, he is an official of the Palestinian Authority. Since when did the Israeli state's authority run to gagging members of the PA admin? Funny, I can't find that bit is Oslo... As the head geographer, one would think he would be very important to any indirect negotiations and would in particular be needed abroad to present the PA's side to the USA state department, the EU and so on. Ahhh, so there we have it - Israel using police power illegally - as it has no authority in Area A - to gag its political opponents. Security considerations' my backside! When 'Dr' Brnd and Tomy from New York are clapping enthusiastically, you can tell that there's something badly wrong. What a vile little police state Israel has turned into, the Albania of the 60s and 70s. How far it has slipped from the pedestal. The international representations and condemnation will be coming in as we speak.

You ask "What are they trying to hide?" I guess it's all in the Goldstone Report.

You are not qualified to evaluate this guy's bona fides. As it's done academic circles let his peers speak out agaisnt him and I have not notice any out-cry agaisnt this individual. You said:" they haven't negotiated in good faith for 17 years..." 18 years ago the Pal's negotiated very well to sign the Oslo Accords. Since then, the trouble has been leaders like Netanyahu. "Send them back to Tunisia.."..what kind of crazy talk are you spewing...They are Palestinians and not Tunisians they have very little in common. The PLO was invited by Tunisian President Bougarbhi (sp?) in 1982-3 because of "the mess" in Beurit caused by the IDF. Bougarbhi was a statesman trying to solve a world'sproblem...that's more than Israeli Prime Ministers try to do.

You are not qualified to evaluate this guy's bona fides. As it's done academic circles let his peers speak out agaisnt him and I have not notice any out-cry agaisnt this individual. You said:" they haven't negotiated in good faith for 17 years..." 18 years ago the Pal's negotiated very well to sign the Oslo Accords. Since then, the trouble has been leaders like Netanyahu. "Send them back to Tunisia.."..what kind of crazy talk are you spewing...They are Palestinians and not Tunisians they have very little in common. The PLO was invited by Tunisian President Bougarbhi (sp?) in 1982-3 because of "the mess" in Beurit caused by the IDF. Bougarbhi was a statesman trying to solve a world'sproblem...that's more than Israeli Prime Ministers try to do.

Banning freedom of expression and religion is terrible. so true. How tall are your minarets growing. Why Swiss so afraid of Muslims in your land that you ban their houses of worship? Such persecution is disgusting and against international human rights and law

They know how to secure Israel from Arab terror and it is all on the talkative pages of Haaretz . I think Shin Bet should read them and based on it make decisions . HA,HA,HA,HA.....

I wander what else we can look forward to about learning how democracy works from Mr. Eli Yishai. This is the brand of democracy that makes the US say Israel is our closest ally since it is the only democracy in the Middle East. Thanks Amira and my hat is off to you for always telling us the truth.

In Israel , surrounded by such fanatic deadly enemies , and trying hard to preserve democracy , security takes an other level . It is a tough balance , but Israel succeeding nicely .

In that case it should be possible to refute his findings quickly, easily and relatively inexpensively (with Israel recieving more aid than Haiti this must be an issue). Why if he is inexperienced, unqualified and therefore easily dismissed do Israeli Jews see fit to issue a banning order preventing him from travelling abroad?

The Israelis HATE Palestinians who do not engage in militant activity, but resist Israeli policy with research. The truth is so utterly appalling, it is no surprise Israel would go to great lengths to suppress it. No amount of field work in Haiti will change what Israel has become, a thug state with no desire except to increase its territory.

....Lets see: Who cares what his credentials are?? He is being banned for travel!! I still don't know what sort of nonsense you wrote in your post....hmmm talking about negotiations the same could be said on the right-winged Israeli leaders who want to negotiate but continue settlements! God! Narrow-minded! you are a doctor of what?

Why do you think you are so hated throiughoiuit the world? Why do you think Iran wants to put an end to this crap?

"At the age of 50, the PLO sent this guy, one of Arafat`s cronies, to Arizona State to take some Master`s level courses on using map-drawing software, for use in constructing maps for negotiations." And how did you, Dr., learn of these facts about such a simple guy that came to AS to take one lousy course? Were you a school official that is now telling all? Or maybe you were collecting information on foreign students and the courses that they take? Finally, is YOUR doctorate for real or is it just a fake?

whenever iterrogating a Palestinian , they always introduce themselves by a First Name only. This seems to be a pattern and it is an attempt to hide their identity . If a policeman , with authority from the state , is conducting "state business" , his identity should be known to the defendant especialy when they ( the polcie) behave in an unprofessional manner , mistreat the defendant and the defendant wants to take legal action againts the police. This pattern of behavior seems to be procedural and sanctionned by the police which suggests that israel condones this kind of action .

Anything to hide what Israel is doing but the people are waking up Dr. L. Brnd and Israel will not last long if they dont stop being a little iran sister

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Well, Brnd, suppose you're right, and this guy is just a propagandist. Does that, in your view, entitle Israel to imprison him in the country?

But anyway, nobody wants you abroad and nobody would invite you anywhere.

and hissing at anyone who comes near. From the outside one can only pity these people. Self destruction is always sad to watch. It is of course far worse when they are harming innocent victims in the process. The so called light unto Nations grows dimmer. Not much wick left in the old candle.

At the age of 50, the PLO sent this guy, one of Arafat's cronies, to Arizona State to take some Master's level courses on using map-drawing software, for use in constructing maps for negotiations. The guy is no recognized "geography researcher", he is just one of the PLO propagandists who spouts to audiences what he's told to spout. He is no bonafide "expert" or "researcher" on anything. Just a PLO draftsman trained to make PowerPoints and maps for their propaganda machine. Israel is finally fed up and dealing the PLO hacks out of the game, they haven't negotiated in good faith for 17 years, whether the Israeli government was left,right or center. Time to send them all back to Tunis and start over. With Abbas refusing negotiations, Obama has no legal basis under US law to allow the PLO to maintain its US offices and travel permits. Israel is just "helping him obey US law".

Israel try to avoid that their permanent land theft is documented. Nevertheless the wolld is aware, how Israel is distorting history. Israel will never find peace with their neighborsif they don't stop their uninterrupted criminal acts of land theft, killing and imprisoning Palestinians.

It's bad enough when individuals start acting in a criminal way, but when your own state is doing it, then you know as a citizen that you will soon find yourself in (big) trouble....

This sort of action, itself, causes significant harm to the security of Israel. Blocking free expression raises questions. I felt the same way about Israel's blocking of press entry into Gaza to report on operation cast lead. What are they trying to hide?

The Jewish paranoia knows no bounds! Get real and join the real world!

No wonder the entire civilized world + half of America (those w/education) hate Israel.

Security is used for all situations which Israel sees as a threat. As a paranoic country, soon everything will be a security issue. Human and civil right don't exist here, at least not for the Palestinians.

Besides, I hear that HITLER spent much of his time looking at maps. Makes you wonder about 'cartographers', doesn't it?

Wow - what a dangerous man - exposing the truth about settlements! He must be a BIG security risk!

What more proof can there be of Israel's apartheid fascist-nature than this! Botha's South Africa did the same thing.

And if Mr. Abbas wants Khalil Tufakji on his negotiating team? Just another one of those no pre-condition conditions.

What is Israel becoming? Trying to silence the Palestinian voice through arrests, threats, and travel bans is a complete disregard for the democratic ideals the country is supposedly founded on.

Mr. Tufakji should make sure all his research and document is mirrored on multiple internet sites. That should foil any vile Israeli attempts to silence him, erase or cover up his findings.

Such a treaty would be valid under Vienna?

why am I not surprised? and any time we speak to Zionists in Toronto, first thing they utter is: Israel is the only democracy in middle east. what a fraud they are and what a mockery of democracy is Israel!! maybe it is we should say: Israel is Democrat country (for Zionists)among Apartheid states; that is more accurate. what a Fraud!! this is the real shock and ah of Zionism.

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