• Published 00:55 01.08.10
  • Latest update 00:55 01.08.10

Israel amenable to UN probe of Gaza flotilla incident

Netanyahu could become the first Israeli prime minister to agree to a UN investigation into an Israel Defense Forces operation.

By Barak Ravid Tags: Israel news UN Gaza flotilla

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is leaning toward accepting the United Nations' proposal that it investigate the Gaza-flotilla affair.

Israeli forces approaching Gaza flotilla

Israel Navy forces approach one of six ships of an aid flotilla bound for Gaza on May 31, 2010.

Photo by: Reuters

This would make Netanyahu the first Israeli prime minister to agree to a UN investigation into an Israel Defense Forces operation.

The U.S. administration is pressuring Israel to accept the proposal by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, and Netanyahu is expected to make a decision this week.

Initially Israel had hoped the Obama administration would help it quash Ban's initiative, but the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, proposed that Israel be pressured.

Senior diplomats familiar with the matter say Rice has described the establishment of a UN committee "critical to U.S. interests at the UN."

According to Ban's proposal, a review panel would examine the investigations that Israel and Turkey are carrying out.

The team would thus begin its work only after the investigations in each country are completed.

Heading the review panel would be former New Zealand prime minister Geoffrey Palmer, while his deputy would be outgoing Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.

As Turkey's representative on the panel, Ankara mentioned the name of a senior diplomat who has served as director general of the Turkish Foreign Ministry.

Israel has not discussed who might represent it on the committee, whose establishment it has not yet agreed to.

A senior political source said Ban told Defense Minister Ehud Barak during their meeting on Friday at UN headquarters that he hopes to have Israel's answer by the weekend.

The source said the question of establishing a UN review panel was a key issue during the meeting.

Barak presented Israel's reservations regarding the committee's mandate and asked for clarifications on a number of issues.

The subject is expected to be discussed this week in the forum of seven senior ministers. It might also be brought before the cabinet.

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  • 23. 0 0
    UN hypocrisy
    • 02.08.10
    • 17:59

    israel should reject the invetigation.specily rejecting the represeation from turky .i thing we should have 2 UN to saperate the democratics countrys from dictaorship country or places.

  • 22. 0 2
    some people want a one world government
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 01.08.10
    • 23:10

    some people want to be citizens of the world. yet they use dictatorships to achieve this goal.

  • 21. 11 2
    Turkey's rising stock Israel's sinking star!
    • Levo
    • 01.08.10
    • 11:19

    As it shall be abundantly clear to all including delusional contibutors to this board that a tectonic irreversible shitf is taking place in terms of Israel's position relative to Turkey. With its unprovoked attack on a humanitarian supply vessel and the 'murder' by the Israeli Offense Force of ten unarmed activists Israel ineptly shot herself in the foot. As increasingly more policy makers admit openly that "Israel is America's greatest liability" aided by the bloody flotilla adventurism by Israeli 'Offense' Forces the US administration reprioritized its allies; Turkey and Israel in that order. After all the US needs Turkey far more than it needs tiny Israel inconsequential in the big picture which is considered by many to be "America's greatest liability". The US efforts to pull out of Iraq, the Afghan mission etc can only beexecuted with Ankara's collaboration and helping hand. Turkey's last request; the apology shall also be forthcoming in the not too distant future. Tiny Israel under its extremist administration ended up being the big loser!

  • 20. 8 0
    Is Cipora a John Birch Society member?
    • Mark of Lewiston
    • 01.08.10
    • 10:15

    Your writing is straight from the John Birch Society, talking about the US surrendering sovereignty and outsourcing US foreign policy. It is almost as if you are quoting from one of their newspapers? Is that where your ideas come from? They make mainstream Republicans (even by today's standards) look rational.

  • 19. 6 0
    What is there to consider ?
    • bobharis30
    • 01.08.10
    • 09:57

    Israel is a suspect in a murder case. Israel has tampered with the crime scene. Israel has confiscated all evidence from victims ... video cameras, mobile phones etc ... What is there to investigate ?

  • 18. 1 1
    This UN panel sounds a lot better than the totally unacceptable UNCRH idiocy. But.....
    • S
    • 01.08.10
    • 09:25

    ..... the main objection I have is the imposition of such panel for, practically a skirmish, when compared with the huge genocidal wars going on all over the world. Another objection I have, is how come there are any doubts what happened when looking at the videos?? Saying the videos are not true, as many posters are claiming here? That sounds like the Arab opposition to Harriri investigation..... In short, denying the obvious, and the truth, has become the standard of UN's existence???

    • 3 1
      credulous
      • talia
      • 02.08.10
      • 17:57

      " how come there are any doubts what happened when looking at the videos?? " Hello!! What about the dozens of videos taken by those passangers on board the mamara. all confiscated and none subsequently released. what were the IDf afraid of? compromising their own edited videos! There is a video that was smuggled out showing the IDf kicking a prostarte figure on the ground and then loading and appearing to fire the gun at point blank range. It is either an activist being executed or the idf practicing on a sack of potatoes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi6c10ntFZk "A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back." execution style as were many others shot at point blank range in the head.

  • 17. 0 0
    there will be no UN investigation in Israel
    • Miron
    • 01.08.10
    • 09:20

    Ravid is roughing feathers, but deep down he is harmless porcupine.

  • 16. 0 4
    why?
    • David from HaIfa
    • 01.08.10
    • 07:42

    accordong to haaretz, the most anti israeli paper in the workd, the UN and all of you... we are guilty.

  • 15. 4 12
    "critical to US interests at the UN"
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 01.08.10
    • 06:36

    the obama administration has outsourced united states national security interests to the corrupt un. now susan rice wants to pressure israel to do the same. the turkish flotilla fiasco could have been prevented had the administration taken the elementary precaution to call erdogan to discourage him from allowing the terror ship mavi marmara from setting sail from turkish port and under turkish flag. however, the impression one gets is that the us administration, at the highest levels, was unwilling to take such a step. it is doubtful that this administration is capable of fully realising the harm being done to its own interests. it is most definitely not in the interests of the united states that two allies such as turkey and israel become adversaries. this un sponsored "investigation" will only serve those who hope to diminish us sovereignty and, by extension, israel's ability to defend herself.

  • 14. 4 2
    fishy
    • chess p.
    • 01.08.10
    • 05:49

    The likelihood of US abandoning Israel and Netanyahu accepting it is too low. what I see is a good chess move. I don't think that US would ever throw Israel into lion's den. I think something else was planned in the Obama Netanyahu meeting. Obama cannot risk angering Turkey more, cannot risk giving up on Israel. he had to push for the int'l probe so that Turkey felt like he was on their side. yet he probably assured Netanyahu during their meeting that the probe was necessary, but the outcome would not hurt Israel. I think US will ensure that the probe will find IHH guilty. Turkey will not be able to blame US since Obama seems to have forced Israel. and Israel will be free of guilt, knowing at the same time that the US actually helped them. That's the perfect outcome for the US. if they can affect the outcome of the probe undetected, that is.

  • 13. 1 1
    Egomaniac
    • Cl
    • 01.08.10
    • 05:02

    "According to Ban's proposal, a review panel would examine the investigations that Israel and Turkey are carrying out. " That is what the UN is requesting. The idea you had, and which many others had first, is not going to happen. If you want to think your idea was original, have fun.

  • 12. 4 2
    Alvero Uribe!
    • KMansfield
    • 01.08.10
    • 04:18

    You have got to be kidding! This man should be in prison. He was part of the Medellin drug cartel. All of his opponents ended up 6 feet under. Susan Rice belongs there herself for her coddling of S.A. strong men. The world is upside down!

    • 7 0
      Uribe
      • Froy
      • 01.08.10
      • 06:01

      So true. This guy has been a staunch Israel supporter all along. Colombia and Israel have that in common: both are the regional US gendarmes. Having Uribe as deputy is just as having Bibi or Lieberman.

  • 11. 15 1
    Proud but Destitute
    • Sephardi
    • 01.08.10
    • 03:55

    "Critical to US interests at the UN", is what Rice said. One would wonder the connection. But Turkey -- a crucial NATO ally and growing economy -- is working hard behind the scenes, let's put it that way. Of course, naive individuals who are matrixed in their little bubble don't know the influence Turkey has, thinking it's a kind of Iran or Syria. Stiff-necked and proud or not, when it comes to your donor, you've got to obey.

  • 10. 14 5
    Really?
    • jake
    • 01.08.10
    • 03:46

    These headlines are of fleeting import. Why betcha tomorrow's will read Israel is not amenable to UN probe of Gaza flotilla incident.

  • 9. 32 4
    The world looks forward to your decision Netanyahu...
    • Hakan C
    • 01.08.10
    • 03:33

    However, nothing less than FULL access and co-operation from ALL involved, including the release of ALL videos (un-touched) would be acceptable... It is also good to see the US (eventually) realising that it cannot continue to "blindly" back Israel on everthing she does. As if the US's credibility isn't damaged enough. Anyway, we'll see...

  • 8. 13 26
    Big mistake
    • Mark
    • 01.08.10
    • 03:16

    This would set a precedent in international law. No other nation has had this kind of investigation forced upon it for such a minor incident. If Netanyahu agrees to this witch hunt Israel will be investigated for every time one of its soldiers fires a bullet.

    • 3 7
      Mark, correct
      • Cipora Julianna Kohn
      • 01.08.10
      • 06:39

    • 9 0
      Not True, Mark
      • Mark of Lewiston
      • 01.08.10
      • 08:54

      The UN is taking a rather forceful position about the North Korean sinking of the South Korean ship. Is that a witch hunt, too? People died, including an American. Is attacking Americans in international waters perfectly peachy with you? Was Leon Klinghoffer fair game? Was the Lusitania fair game?

  • 7. 15 4
    inquiry
    • potobac
    • 01.08.10
    • 03:08

    I doubt if the international community would accept ANY government's demand that it judge on the correctness of its own actions with no international input. However, granting Israel's history of "It didn't happen", "Maybe an isolated instance", Well, yes , it did happen, but...", input becomes particularly important.

    • 6 1
      ?
      • DC
      • 01.08.10
      • 04:56

      "I doubt if the international community ..." Are you kidding? Most countries just tell the so called "international community" to stuff it; and if that country is powerful enough, they do

  • 6. 2 23
    Bibi is a sissy
    • Frank
    • 01.08.10
    • 03:02

    Israel cannot accept that an hostile foreign organization meddles into Israel affairs.

  • 5. 1 4
    For what it's worth...
    • Helmut
    • 01.08.10
    • 02:47

    ...and personally speaking--everything I ever got in life--came with "strings attached." (And the older I got, the more I came to believe--that it was "just how the world works"--whether I liked it or not.)

  • 4. 27 2
    It Would be Smart
    • Mark of Lewiston
    • 01.08.10
    • 02:38

    But there will be too many Israeli preconditions for it to work.

    • 0 6
      why?
      • David from HaIfa
      • 01.08.10
      • 07:43

      because you and haaretz, the most anti israel paper in the world, already judged us guilty? the un is useless and anti israel.

    • 3 0
      So You can See all
      • Mark of Lewiston
      • 01.08.10
      • 20:04

      So you and the world can get some information that is unfiltered. Have you read the autopsy results? Did you see the video that wasn't confiscated?, Unedited? Have your soldiers told you what they were instructed to do, not say?

  • 3. 8 1
    Necessity for an handshake!
    • Burak
    • 01.08.10
    • 02:34

    This is the right way to solve the problem. Abiding by international law strengthens Israel. Anyway If u want to handshake with someone u should clean ur hands first.

    • 4 5
      Burak Bey
      • David Israel
      • 01.08.10
      • 05:56

      You may be correct in saying If u want to handshake with someone u should clean ur hands first. Here is my question though: When will Turkey come clean clean about the mass graves found last year of Greeks shot point blank (It was reported all over Turkish media) in north Cyprus and about the many other Greeks lost in 1974 invasion and never heard of? Shouldn't the UN also investigate this ?

    • 7 1
      David: "NO NEED for Anti-Turkish Propaganda!
      • Levo
      • 01.08.10
      • 11:29

      Your posting is a 'Propaganda Piece' plain and simple! As such it cannot be taken seriously and nor does it have anything to do with the topic at hand! In terms of a hand shake it is Bibi the War Criminal would have a hard time finding detergent robust enough to remove the blood of innocents from his hands. Please do not post 'zionist anti Turkey Propaganda Material' as it does nothing to ad to the democratic froum here!

    • 0 0
      Levo - you talk about war c riminals
      • David Israel
      • 02.08.10
      • 16:45

      Then why shouldn't UN investigate the war crimes that happened in Cyprus also? The Turkish media reported that a mass grave was found with many Greek bodies shot point blank in it in North Cyprus only last year. This is definitely a war crime. If you are serious about war crimes investigations, before you accuse others, you must start it from your own backyard shouldn't you? And how do you expect me not to respond to your Anti Israel posts? I should have the same right to raise my voice as you have. People can easily find out weather my posts are about facts or just made up. But I can tell that because you know they are facts it disturbs you.

  • 2. 20 8
    Best to cooperate
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 01.08.10
    • 02:26

    That way you get to put in your two cents from the beginning. Refusing to cooperate just makes you look guilty.

  • 1. 19 4
    An old suggestion coming close to becoming realized
    • Logios
    • 01.08.10
    • 02:25

    Here is an early suggestion of mine: It would have been best to have an international commission with an Israeli, a Turk, and two neutral/foreign members that Israel and Turkey would agree on. This should have been arranged in negotiations between Israel and Turkey. A majority vote would have meant 3:1, a convincing majority with the two neutrals probably agreeing. Such an arrangement would have improved the relationship between Turkey and Israel, while a strictly Israeli commission can only create more distrust. Unfortunately, Israeli paranoia precluded this from happening. I hope the UN Secretary General pushes for such an arrangement.