Is a serious Israel-EU crisis in the works?

Obama is the most pro-Islamic US President ever because HE IS a Moslem, born to a Moslem, and raised a Moslem? There is no documentation of Hossein ever being convereted to Christianity. In his own words (slipped) he has repeatedly talked of his "Moslem faith" on camera with journalists. Once a Moslem is always a Moslem.

Your knowledge of past and current events is absolutely obsolete? Just because Israel is a tiny country and is Jewish you tend to say whatever your lonely heart desires and you have numerous anti-semites on board andyou forgot what the Russians did last year?? Does Gorgia ring the bell Mr. anti-Israel and anti-??????

There is no crisis yet but hopefully as Israel continues to behave like a criminal state public opinion across the EU will demand an end to all Israel's preferential links and relations. It is action like this that might help Israel realise that its future requires it to be behave like any other reasonable state. Then it might feel at home in its own region - the Middle East- and not some far flung outpost of Europe.

#3 you have a good perspective and most accurate view of this situation. I pray Bibi will be not bend, but be brave, strong and very courageous for Israel. Obama is NOT for us Americans OR Israel!! I pray daily for Bibi and those in authority of Israeli decisions, and may the Lord give decernment and wisdom during this time of instability. And may God bless each of them and may God bless Israel!!

has turned up in an Algerian prison, using a forged Spanish passport I would say it is a near certainty.

"In 1832, a Senator from New York made a speech on the floor of the US Senate coining an axiom: "To the victors belong the spoils of the enemy." - Elvis on Passaic Senator Marcy was speaking of political patronage, the ability to give government jobs to friends and supporters of the winning politician. A system largely eliminated in NY and the USA due to the fantastic corruption it engendered. As you intend the term to apply to the spoils of war, you are clearly clueless about Senator Marcy. Some 70 years ago a Austrian lance corporal named Adolf Hitler teamed up with his pal Benito and General Tojo to apply the conquer, rape, pillage and plunder theory of nation-building. That left a world seriously pissed off at the concept, and the concept discredited. Over 60 years ago the concept of territorial expansion by war was made a War Crime.

It's clear to the world now that Likud and the Zionists have gone for all the marbles, and have not acted in good faith with the Palestinians. Likud and the Zionists should withdraw from all the settlements in the Occupied Terrorists now. Enough is enough

Obama should aggressively pursue to explain the whole world, on TV, the dirty business of AIPAC, Wall-Street, anti-Medicare block, war-lobby, gun-lobby and everything. So that at least once, people of the world hear these from a US president.

This people "who suffered so much" is letting the others suffering deliberately and nobody is allowed to criticize them. ENOUGH!

It is about time that America has stood up to Israel. Israel has used its military might to do whatever it wants. Israel settlements within Palestinian territory are clearly illegal. Americans are getting sick of backing an ally who acts so arrogantly. Lets see how tough Israel is without America?s support.

It?s about time that some pressure for the sake of humanity is applied on the right wing gov`t. A forced peace is the only peace possible with the current generation of Israeli politicians. This is the ultimatum given to arrogant Israel. 1. No Veto 2. No Money 3. No Iran

So someone once said something you like. That means nothing. Once again, Zionists are nostalgic for the bad old days when conquest meant slaughter and territorial expansion. It wishes it could do to the Pals what the ancient Israelites did to the Canaanites. Fortunately, that vicious age is over. With the UN, the Geneva Conventions and other modern instruments of diplomacy and international law, this is no longer true. By declaring the acquisition of land by war, the UN has no doubt prevented many wars. This principle must be preserved and enforced. Might no longer makes right. When the Jews were a discriminated against minority in Europe, they supported the rights of minorities and those who were not powerful. Once Israel had a powerful military, though, the Zionists' tune changed. Israel must be rolled out of the WB like Iraq was forced out of Kuwait. Fortunately, the state of Israel was created before the emergence of modern international law

The vast majority of those living in France are French citizens, just as the vast majority of those living in Israel are Israeli citizens. France for the French and Israel for the Israelis - that's not racist. However, Zionists want a Jewish majority to rule over non-Jewish minorities in the interest of the Jews, and that is racist.

True and well said. Now It is payment day. We the US taxpayers paid for all what's done for the last 62 years.

Your antisemitic comment is even more disgusting. You do not start 4 wars and lose them to epect everything back. Jewish morals are high but no western society has done this so do not expect it from us! we hav prayed for Jerusalem for 2000 years, during jordanian occupation all the jews were throwned out and synagogues demolished. We will not accept this to happen again!

I do think your friends the palestinians will not like one single jew to remain on their territories. Also the christian pals are slowly beeing sent out. By the way, don't you think France would like to keep a french majority inside it's borders? This has nothing to do with racism, only with demography and the majority in Israel wishes to keep Israel a jewish state, the only one in fact!

"Israel and Jews learned after Holocaust do not trust anyone". "But Israel and Jews paid to heavy price for trusting our enemies or ?friends?" That didn't stop them from being equally brutal and arrogant. Don't you see that nobody is trusting Israel and actually nobody is respecting. Without a stron jewish lobby in the US everything would be different. OPEN THE EYES!!!

"but if the nations seek to control our future we will not let them do so" - but you will still let all these nations paying your budget? I hope the EU and the US would FINALLY stop this arrogant and racist policy. This people "who suffered so much" is letting the others suffering deliberately and nobody is allowed to criticize them. ENOUGH!

Senators from 200 years ago are irrelevant in international law. But it speaks volumes when and where you go to seek 'justification' for the Zionist behaviour.

Maybe Mr Barak allied in a government with extremists has responsibility for the part of the Jewish people who lives in Israël, he has no responsibility about the part which has not chosen to live in Israël.

We shall always remember that Obama came and Obama will leave but Jerusalem will remain. Israel and Jews learned after Holocaust do not trust anyone. Americans are very strange some time they do not act logically ? elect Obama, and they forget very easy their past: Pearl Harbour or 9/11 until it is awake up call. But Israel and Jews paid to heavy price for trusting our enemies or ?friends?.

in cooperation until recently mostly in economic cooperation. Now they are shaping up getting a mutual foreign policy (incarnated as Catherine Ashton now). The EU policy on Israel can be read on the front page of this paper and is called ?Exclusive: EU draft on dividing Jerusalem?. It is in total harmony with the Obama initiative.

on this side of the line". If this is not racism, then what definition do you give to the word?

In 1832, a Senator from New York made a speech on the floor of the US Senate coining an axiom: "To the victors belong the spoils of the enemy."

but if the nations seek to control our future we will not let them do so.

... not sure that it was pure coincidence that Israeli envoy in London sent home to Israel over passport scandal... just when Obama was delivering his low-chair message in Washington...

It is time to stop all advantages the EU has given Israel for their economy and trade as long as Israel is not following international laws and human rights towards the Palestinians. Israel has lost their bonus as persecuted people. Their arrogance as God's chosen people is disgusting.

It is clear, predictable and highly justifiable that the world is slowly but surely shifting their position towards Israel and its consistent disrespect for international law. I could go on forever, but really, one would have to be blind not to see and understand the atrocities being committed by Israel on every level - from the very grass-roots with the obscene infringement of human rights to the faking of other countries' passports for unlawful ends. Really Israel, get a grip, please - the west cannot afford to support this kind of policies forever.

for repurcussions for illegally using German and french passports for the purposes of murder in Dubai. There is also the issue of illegal settlers mis-labelling produce made in the occupied territories as being made in Israel proper. This is merely a warning to the good decent Israelis who properly follow the central tenats of Judaism and who are the silent majority that the shit is going to hit the fan thanks to the actions of the nutjobs. Who seem to think that trade agreements and International law doesn't apply to them.

....tough stands on right-wing Israels policies. They were hoping and praying for that kind of U.S. president in the White House for the past 40 years, and now their dream seems finally have come true. Or as one senior European diplomat was quoted: "Well, how could we not be (at least) as tough on Israel as a U.S. president...??"

I don't think anyone in Israel needs to be concerned unless there is talk of ending the preferential access of Israeli goods into the European Union and North American Free Trade Area - these are real valuable in terms of Israeli economic performance compared with, for example, Lebanon or Syria that get hit with big taxes on their exports - billions of dollars is what is this - also US taxpayers (via their government) borrow money in China, Saudi Arabia and then give it free to the IDF (20 per cent of the budget), and so long as this is secure then there is nothing to be concerned about in these newspaper stories - words are cheap and just a public relations exercise, perhaps ahead of an attack on Iranian people like in 1953???

#3, your kind of attitude has gotten Israel to this point. Stop being rude, arrogant, and extremist. I personally think there is no hope for just peace with viable Palestinian state. the best solution is ONE STATE SOLUTION. Mike

At this time of liberation, it is important for the Jews to recognize that the power is thru returning to G-d, not dealing away the Jews heritage to foreigners. If it takes B. Hussain Obama and the Europeans to assist, great.

Something which has been growing constantly, and furthered by Bibi's exacerbations, ever since Israel's Gaza fiasco. Sorry folks, but the pretense simply doesn't hold water. And in case you're missing it, neither do any of the coy little ploys Israel once relied on to hoodwink and influence the views of western nations.

It's a bit annoying to come to an article titled "Is a serious Israel-EU crisis in the works?" when the only tie in to the title occurs in a one sentence blurp-the focus again being Israel and US relations and how they are fracturing. Solid analysis on EU-Israeli relations would make very interesting material for the next week or so. I'd like to see not just the EU as a whole but what the individual member states believe is an appropriate course of action. I don't believe the EU has much to say about anything seeing as Greece's 27 billion dollars in debt have the IMF knocking... Point is causes are a thing of luxury. When that euro slips further and further because of Greece and Portugal, we'll see where the EU's sympathies lie or better yet their allegiances...

"I believe that it is our obligation to seek an agreement that sets a clear border within the Land of Israel based on security and demographic considerations, with the Jewish state, the State of Israel, on one side with a solid majority of Jews through the generations, and the demilitarized Palestinian state on the other side with territorial, economic and political viability." You continue to live in la-la land, Barak (not Obama. The other one.) Get your shofars together.

A Jihad Against Israel By Obama and "International community" Netanyahu Should Stop Being Clown This isn't circus: Obama is more dangerous than Ahmadenijad. Obama is doing everything possible to damage Israel and to undermine Israel's relations with the US and Europe. Obama is more serious threat to Israel than Iran. Israel should direct its efforts to show the world the aggressive side of the Obamistas-islamistas. Of course, Obama is a simple black guy who likes to shoot basketball, but he carries out a plan prepared since 2006 how to subdue Israel prepared by President Jimmy Carter, John Mitchell, Rashid Halidi, Valerie Jarrett and Arab lobby. If instead of having endless meetings with Mitchell, a friend of Jimmy and Zbig, and numerous phone calls with the cleaning lady of the 7th fl, and dining with the useful(useless) idiot Biden, Bibi would have read what we write in Talkbacks he would have been much smarter. Mitchell and his people should be immediately expelled from Israel. Israel should proclaim once more that under no circumstances will the Freeze be extended. Israel should wait out Obama, the most pro-Islamic US President for 234 years who represents a threat to Israel and Jews just like the ancient rulers Persian and Egyptian rulers. Obama doesn't represent American people, Congress or elite. There are only 25 people behind him; he is bluffing. Don't be coward, Bibi. The more Palestinians wait the less they'll get.

Who will you blame now? This is of your own doing. You have been told for years the occupation must end, yet Israel was bulldozing peoples homes and taking it for russians and people from brooklyn. How long did you think this kind of thing would fly for? Take your losses now, and voluntarily pull out of the settlements now. You made your own bed, you invested money into real estate development that was not yours for the taking. Consider yourselves lucky you got away with it for as long as you did. If it wasnt for the Internet probably no one would have known what was taking place in the occupied territories at all.

...knock Mr. Oren's being "laconic" (to use the authors' word). After all, John Wayne--i.e. "the Duke"--was forever being described as "laconic" (which simply means "using very few words"), and look how far he went in his chosen profession. (Furthermore, remember how Mr. Oren got his tail in a crack, so to speak, a couple weeks ago, when--speaking arguably in non-laconic fashion--he ended up getting misquoted, taken out of context, whatever--on that sorriest-state-of-affairs-in-30-years thingy?)