Iran, Israel attend secret nuclear meet in Cairo

... alas, you have none...

I love the irony of israel accusing Iran of violating the non proliferating treaty when the IAEA has investigated Iran repeatedly and stated that it is 10 years from having the technology to make the bomb. They have missiles... but they don't have the proper delivery vehicles. Israel is not a signatory to the non proliferation treaty and they have no shame in being the greatest source of terror in the Middle East. The state of israel is the greatest source of terror on the planet and will undoubtedly prove to be the biggest mistake in history.

Why perpetrate the lie about a secret meeting for most of a day after your Talkback censors knew it was false? To continue publishing what you have been proven to be a lie, is to lie. So Haaretz is either a willing liar, a supplicant to liars, or a craven supplicant to liars - or, perhaps worst of all, a craven who knows it lies, could admit it, and lacks the guts. Which is it, and why does, Haaretz consider it necessary to lie? Is it simply because Haaretz lacks the sense to do a fact check? Is it because Haaretz is dedicated to the Likud goal of starting a war? Is it because Haaretz is simply incompetent as a news source? What other possible reason is there? Too lazy to check anything out? Which is the Haaretz brand of incompetence or malice? Or simply a government with the power of censorship and no morals? In any case, Haaretz has failed Israel, honesty and the world.

No, I do not expect this to be published. Haaertz has persisted for most of a day when it and it's censors were made well aware that it's headline was a total fraud. And it seems as an honest source for the news, so is Haaretz. The propaganda line is that this was a 'secret' meeting when there was nothing 'secret' about it. Nor was it 'secret' for a month before the Israeli Atomic Energy Agency fed the story to an Australian paper as well as the AFP, then Haaretz faked a story pretending that the source was Australian. The press release tells the truth. Haaretz lied. And the refusal for half a day or more to allow the truth to be revealed exposes just how perverse, and degenerate Haaretz is. Haaretz is a coward, a degenerate, pathetic censoring coward. I guess were I that awful, disgusting and craven, I would hide it too. The truth, for any that wish to know, is despite Haaretz's headline the meeting was NEVER a 'secret' and Haaretz lies.

The meeting was never 'secret.' The whole flap is a flop. About as real as the Colorado Balloon Boy gig. The 'story' seems to have originated in Israel, been leaked to Australia, which led to Australian sources being quoted by Israeli papers. The 'meeting' was one of many such regional meetings being held. Read the month old press release at: http://www.icnnd.org/releases/090930_js_evans_kawaguchi.html http://www.icnnd.org/releases/090930_js_evans_kawaguchi.html

Of course they talk. Very quietly, behind closed doors. All very hush hush. The real question.. What do they discuss.? Certainly not about the Iranian Nuclear Weapons Program with missiles of unbelievable distance and multiple warheads that have yet to invented. More than likely Iran needs to build its first cellphone, maybe Israeli scientists have also explained the intricacies of modern theories derived that the earth is indeed not flat and the moon is not made of cheese. Iran is a contagious photo op shop. Not unlike DPRK. Good night from snowy Swiss Alps.

....you can't separate Iran/Israel from Palestine/Israel, at least not to a 100%.

....your 100th birthday, we might be there...:)

Israel/Iran secret meeting. There's probably more truth to the story,than the eye can see.

... that is actually an open secret held at Arcafe in Ramat-nuke... and may never have happened at all, because Tzipi was spied at a nearby table (she never actually retired from the Mosad...)

:)

'... hopefully at the end of this "dialogue" there will be an Iranian recognition of Israels right to exist and a total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank (including East Jerusalem).' One may only hope, and it appears your hopes, and mine, are not dissimilar. But the mullah's hatred of Israel runs very deep, and deep Israeli distrust of Iran is its consequence. Thirty years of enmity will take a very long time to evaporate. MV

It's not the first time, won't be last. Haaretz credibility, already low, keeps going down the drain.

Just should pray:Baruch Atah Adonai Eloheinoo Melek haolam!

Yes lets talk 2 iran and believe what they say and promise thats a good plan.. see you in haven bye bye .. Kind regards Willem Netherlands

I am not in favour of abolishing nuclear weapons. (Frst, because it's unrealistic - be sure of that) The thing is not "what you have", but "what you use" - just like any tool or even your brain. In Israel, they say, EVERY soldier takes his (dangerous assault) weapons at home. Has any of them (or even a family member of them) run berserk with those weapons? (And "family peace" was not a given thing in this stressed - and underfounded - country.) Does the Bible not say: Is-nt-it wonderfull, when friends sit together? Is-nt-it like when the honey rins like Salb-Oel from they beards? (I would be thankfull for the real quotation.) This means, how the Lord feels at this sight (when He sees this).

the Swiss people get a piece of the action! Otherwise, just another Jew attempt to retain their control of the world's banks and their own monopoly on WMDs. Time will tell.....

But after all Iran is denying that these talks ever happened. What does that say to you? To me it is telling me that Iran is not interested in any serious talks. They have been maybe coned into this by Egypt or since they are not interested in any compromised they are denying tyhat it ever happened and they will not continue. Again let me make clear; Israel is ready to dialog with all of its enemies in order to make reasonable compomise and peace. Israel is not afraid to announce the dialog happened. It is Iran who does not want.

Too bad the secret meeting was not kept secret. It is only behind the scenes that anything this sensitive gets done. With everybody commenting and pressuring the sides publically it will ruin any progress being made.

for homo sapiens. something on low supply. An intelligent species would recognize nuclear weapons as obscene, backwards, and medieval. Nuclear power as well. Time for solar panels.

It is good to hear that two countires are starting dialogue. This hostility is source of many problems in the region. Mullahs in Iran are trying hard to start relation with the U.S. because they have lost any legitimacy they had at home even mong their supporters. They want to gain this legitimacy from the U.S which is important for Iranian people. I think U.S should make any relation conditional and put pressure on Mullahs to recongnize Israel. Otherwise they should not have relation with iranain government becasue Iranian people and other countries in the region will be loser in this game and only Mullahs benefit from that.

Oil and water don't mix.

When Israel is accepted there will be no "thuggery"...if ever there was thuggery... If anything the thuggery goes back to the early 20th century with the Moslems using thuggery against the Jews.

Mark Lincoln's long standing argument is that both Israel and the United States should "trust" the IAEA to combat the spread of proliferation. That the IAEA is the only organization who can legitimately confront states attempting to go forward with illicit nuclear plans. And yet, we have not one, not two or three, but four states in the region who were all found to have gone down this path regardless of their treaty obligations. Toss in India and Pakistan and the IAEA is nil for six. But woe betide Israel if it decides to take matters into its own hands. Rather, it should trust this organization. Respect and responsibility go hand in hand with credibility. To date, the IAEA has fallen far short of that goal.

Why isnt the IAEA inspecting, verifying and controlling Israel's nuclear programme/sites? Oh, I forgot, Israel is not subject to the same laws as everyone else!

I feel sorry for israeli ofiicials about dealing with iran regime.I as a member of Green movement in Iran declare that these secret deals with iranian dictator regime will dissapoint the people of iran in their resistance against this cruel regime. Please be with people of Iran not with this thugish government.The Greens recognize Israel as an independent and democratic government.We are strongly against terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

All know the historical meaning of Zionism. But the word Zionist is very often used loosely today as a pejorative term to describe a specific group of Jews, those on the right who believe in their entitlement to a Greater Israel and believe it acceptable to seize Arab land in the process. What most of us would call Revisionist Zionists in fact. In which case, many inside and outside Israel would heartily agree with Soltanieh. The semantics need to be explored with Iran, perhaps through religious figures, there is a world of difference between hating Jews and opposing revisionist Zionists.

Good fences make for good neighbours. Where are yours?

Sharon didn't get nothing in return for leaving Gaza, he got a committment from Bush and Congress that America would never ask Israel to leave the major settlement blocks in any two state agreement. Ultimately, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will have to be a negotiation between Israel and the USA that is imposed on the Palestinians.

..who thought this one up?

Amir no one need to help israel to demise itself Israel doing a good job themself:)just cat and mouse waiting time

What's the point in organizing secret talks ? To discuss things that you don't want to make public. According to the report, the israeli envoy didn't acknowledge that Israel has nukes and the iranian one did'nt acknowledge that Iran wants to have some too. Nice secret talks... Those are the official diplomatic positions of both Israel and Iran. They could have had this discussion in front of the world press.

Dear Sir/Madam ICNND,if it has any honesty and courage, should ask U.S.(the only one to have used atomic bomb TWICE) to give up its Nuclear Arsenals before forcing Iran to relinquish its programme of peaceful utilization of Nuclear Energy. By the way, Israel already has an array of Nuclear Arsenal(atleast 200 of them by conservative estimates)and the delivery system (a military drill with US is about to start), in addition to WMDs used in the destruction (an understatement) of Lebanon, and Ghaza. Regards fjm

did u write ur comment to a right page? cuz in this page i only see iran talk with isr not isr talking with pals. and please why re u so interested in this conflict?? just curious and first there should be pals agreeing with each other to talk peace with isr cuz if fatah says yes without hamas who says no its not a peace

Dont be naieve Mr Westwell Of course they are talking behind the scenes. They always have done and always will be Its all just a big and dangerous game. People knew about Iran's 2nd nuclear power plant ages ago. Just like America knows where Bin Laden is. They would have found him if they really wanted to

Shalom malechem -... sorry - thought i could send the news to my account - sorry

unbelievable

"The exchanges between the Iranian and Israeli representatives took place within three panel sessions, each dealing with one of the issues with which the ICNND is concerned - declaring the Middle East a nuclear-free zone, preventing nuclear proliferation in the region and matters of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes." - Haaretz The source for the story cited by the Age is "The spokeswoman for Israel's Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) Yael Doron." Yet Haaretz says "However, the fact of the meeting was leaked by Australian sources to the Australian daily The Age." The Age is also citing (and substantially quoting under another by line, a story in AFP. Please note the Age is citing AFP citing Haaretz, we have a cycle of "I quote you, you quote, me" going on. The substance is mutual attendance at a regional meeting of IAEA representatives including Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey the US and 'European representatives."

....there will be an Iranian recognition of Israels right to exist and a total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank (including East Jerusalem).

Nothing will come of these talks, Iran is using them as a stall tactic to complete the process to make a bomb.

..."A JUST SETTLEMENT" They want at least a DEMOGRAPHIC victory as they see they cant have a military one! You are a Muslim (I presume)-you know the religious objections to Jews occupying land in Middle East.So dont be so sure a "JUST SETTLEMEMENT " is all the Pals and other Arab States desire . There could have been a Palestinian State in 1947 when UN voted for Partition but no! Then there was E Jerusalem and no Bantustans. But no!Also plenty other land .But no!

it usually - but not always- a good sign when communication is present. The statements ascribed to Soltanieh seem disingenuous,though. He is supposed to have said that Iran "... did not oppose or hate Jews, but was merely politically opposed to Zionism." Zionism is the national revival movement of the Jewish people, averring simply that the Jews have the right to self-determination in their historical national home in the Middle East, and the right to develop their national culture. The realization of this goal has commenced with the creation of the State of Israel. The "opposition to Zionism" expressed so often as denial of its very legitimacy remains a scourge and a validation of the Jewish Exile. The endorsement of Jewish Exile has justified ethnic cleansing and the wholesale slaughter of Jews all too often. When the fundamental right of the Jews to reestablish a sovereign presence in their historic homeland is universally recognized, the world will be safer - for All.

Nuclear free zone? This is more fantasy than reality in a region of fanatical Jihadism. Nuke for peaceful purpose? This is the height of Taqiyya that is being applied to fool Israel and the world. The fact is the fanatical Islamist-Jihadist regime of Iran is hellbent on the destruction of Israel. Shortly after 9/11, Iran's former President, Hashemi Rafsanjani, told the crowd at Tehran stadium that a single nuke could destroy Israel (p.224, "World On Fire" [2004] by Professor Amy Chua). Since then Iran's current President Ahmedinejad has repeatedly threatened to annihilate Israel in his speeches in Tehran, Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta. And the whole Islamist-Jihadist world applauded him.

Israel gives up nukes and the results. They are attacked. Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

True both Israeli and Iranian officials were in the same room. All that happened was the Iranian passed by the an Israel through an aside at him (what this was we do not know). This was just reported by the BBC's Iranian correspondent. This is just another incident of the press turning an acorn into an Oak tree. Is it likely that an Iranian would speak to an Israeli. When recently when an Israeli got up to speak at the UN. The Iranian representative through down his head phones and left the room?

Secret negotiations are at least a good start to forging Iranian - Israeli relations in the long term. A nuclear free middle east is absolutely necessary because with Israels current arsenal and Irans aspirations, its going to lead to an arms race and nobody want anymore nuclear weapons in this world, especially the middle east. And there is no need to be sceptical about such meetings. Even if Israel was to give up its nuclear arsenal, it would be in return for a comprehensive peace deal between the whole Arab world and Iran and Isreal. And the Arabs, much to the contrary belief, want peace with Israel and are waiting for it make a just peace with Palestinians in order to do so. Israel needs to trade with its neighbours, its economy is weak without US aid, it cant rely on US financial support forever.

Israel pretends it has no nukes, (so its enemies all suspect that it does, which is exactly what Israel wants them to think -see article in today's Haaretz) but it's all bluff! Surprise: Israel really doesn't have nukes!

Don't get your hopes up!

oohhhh I'm touched and teary eyed... The idiot Israeli and the intelligent Iranian discussed how Israel can give away its nukes and get nothing in return... Much like OSLO... much like the disengagement from Gaza... Israeli "negotiators" are kings when it comes to giving all and getting nothing in return.

this is a ridiculous charade. israel pretends it has no nukes, but does, iran pretends it is not building them, but is. two pretenders pretedning for the world. welcome to the muddled east . wanna buy a camel that doesn't need gas to run?

This problem can only be treated (maybe not solved completely but at least treated) by dialogue. This also prevents miunderstandings and confusions.

will cart away Israel's *alleged* nuclear weapons? When will Israel open its nuclear facilities to IAEA?

No way such a meeting took place. This is an Israeli lie to stir the pot in the region. Didn't happen, never will !!!

What did they discuss---middle eastern cuisine? Guaranteed that Israel ain't giving up its nukes-that's utter suicide and stupidity, akin to the US giving up its nukes for promises that all countries will try to get along! Leftists try to push this touchy feel-good crap but realistic people don't buy this.

1.The small shepherd boy mahdi should never be underestimated. 2.His non-violent redemptive Formula of FIVE LOAVES is as powerful as The Big Bang that will obliterate The Dajjal from the face of the earth. 3.Like The Big Bang of Creation, Redemption from the devil will only take three seconds in fulfillment of Jesus Christ statement: I saw Satan fall like lightning from the heaven.

1.The small shepherd boy mahdi should never be underestimated. 2.His non-violent Formula of FIVE LOAVES is as powerful as The Big Bang that will obliterate The Dajjal from the face of the earth. 3.Like The Big Bang, Redemption will only take three seconds in fulfillment of Jesus Christ statement: I saw Satan fall like lightning from the heaven.

four countries in the region broke their commitment to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty . We can not say five, because Isreal has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. But feel free to remove the log from your brothers eye.

1.Good evening hungry and thirsty university students, militants and troops. 2.Religious Nations will only obey to put their swords back into the scabbard INCLUDING NUCLEAR if the order comes from The Messiah Jesus Christ. 3.Religious leaders however have so far caught nothing in general and in particular their TWO HIGH-VALUE TARGETS, namely: The Antichrist and Jesus Christ. 4.Unless these TWO most wanted FISH are caught, there will be no peace in The Middle East or elsewhere. 5.The only Perfect Formula that catches these TWO BIG FISH and more powerful than enriched uranium is FIVE LOAVES from a small but well-trained shepherd boy scientist. 6.Breakfast, Iftar and Moshiachs Meal will be served when the small boy is found.

It's gotta start somewhere.

If you didn't sign the NPT, don't complain when other people don't live up to their NPT obligations. At least Iran is trying to fulfill the goal of nuclear non proliferation. Israel can't even be bothered to sign the NPT.

Its about time the talking commenced. Hopefully the disclosure of this meeting doesn't dissuade the two countries from conducting future correspondence.