Haaretz poll: Netanyahu's popularity soaring following Washington trip
Despite tensions in Washington during PM's visit, Israelis generally don't believe Obama is hostile to Israel or that U.S.-Israel relations have been harmed, indicating that the public seems to be turning a deaf ear to analysts who criticized Netanyahu's address to Congress.
By Yossi Verter Tags: Benjamin Netanyahu Middle East peace Barack ObamaIt's doubtful that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in his wildest, most optimistic dreams, would have dared to imagine when he set off for the United States last week that Israelis would respond to his six-day trip so enthusiastically: According to a new Haaretz poll, they are giving the visit high marks, considering it an overwhelming success.
The poll, conducted by the Dialog organization, under the supervision of Prof. Camil Fuchs of the Tel Aviv University Statistics Department, showed that 47 percent of the Israeli public believes the U.S. trip was a success, while only 10 percent viewed it as a failure.
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaking at the annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) policy conference in Washington May 23, 2011. |
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Nearly half of the public felt "pride" at seeing Netanyahu address the joint session of Congress on Tuesday, while only 5 percent deemed it a "missed opportunity." The rest expressed no opinion, while 20 percent of those questioned said they hadn't watched the speech.
Israelis also don't believe that U.S.-Israel relations have been harmed by the visit despite its attendant problems, tensions and disputes.
Some 27 percent of those polled said they believe relations between the two countries will actually improve as a result of the visit, while only 13 percent thought relations would deteriorate. Nearly half of those questioned don't think there will be any change.
From the poll, it emerged that Netanyahu's trip not only put a brake on the drop in his popularity ratings, but actually reversed the trend.
While in a Haaretz poll five weeks ago Netanyahu seemed to be in hot water with the public, with 38 percent expressing satisfaction with his performance and 53 percent disappointed with it, in yesterday's poll the results were essentially reversed: 51 percent were satisfied, while 36 percent were not.
It's doubtful that U.S. President Barack Obama enjoyed such a spike in his popularity after the assassination of Osama bin Laden.
The public thus seems to be turning a deaf ear to the many political and diplomatic analysts who criticized the prime minister's address to Congress and who said it proved that Netanyahu was not capable of pulling the negotiations with the Palestinians out of the dangerous mire they are in.
The public also seems to have dismissed the learned warnings that Netanyahu had generated an unnecessary confrontation with Obama, for which Israel is liable to pay a high price down the line. Apparently average Israelis - from the right, the center, and even from some parts of the left - are welcoming Netanyahu back to Israel with open arms.
Despite all the tension in Washington this past week, Israelis generally don't believe that Obama is hostile to Israel.
Asked their opinion of Obama, who tussled with Netanyahu late last week and also stung him a bit during his speech to the AIPAC annual conference on Sunday, 43 percent of those polled described him as "businesslike," while a quarter described him as friendly and only 20 percent saw him as hostile.
Most of the respondents, however, distinguished between Obama's relations with Israel and his personal relationship with Netanyahu, recognizing that there is a lack of chemistry between the two, though they did not seem too concerned by this.
It would be worthwhile for Netanyahu to savor this week and enjoy his weekend. These numbers are exceptional, and it's unlikely they will hold up over time.
The Middle East, to which he returned yesterday, doesn't give its leaders too many reasons to celebrate.
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Iran is with a fast growing economy,vast market opportunities for foreign investments,huge reserves of oil and gasand etc.with all of this Iran can have much for benefit for US than Israel.But Netanyahu doesn't like this.He wants US money only for himself.
While I appreciate your wanting BB to become your president..nice words (thanks)But we have him, want to keep hm where he belongs (IN ISRAEL)
Okay ! I'll see to it personally that he remains here.if for no other reason than to calm Kath. I know she follows closely & is a real patriot.
Once reality sets back in.
But take a minute and ponder 1) Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish people for over 3,000 years and that of the State of Israel since its re-establishment, with a large Jewish majority since 1860. Jerusalem is referred to thousands of times in Jewish scriptures; Jews pray towards Jerusalem and yearned to return to it during 2,000 years of forced exile. Jerusalem was never the capital of an Arab state, doesn’t appear once in the Koran and Muslims pray towards Mecca; So why should Jerusalem be on the Table would you give away your own home to anyone let alone to your sworn enemy ??? 2) Although there was never a sovereign Palestinian state at any point in the history of mankind, Israel accepted the UN’s 1947 partition plan. The Arabs did not, and instead reciprocated with war, and another war, and then a couple of more wars, simultaneously combined with more than 70 years of terror against innocent civilians. Therefore, aside from its biblical and historical rights, Israel has more than 25,000 reasons, one for each slain soldier and terror victim, to refuse the return to 1967 borders; Why not tell our Arab neighbors to absorb the palestinians as we absorbed all the Jews from all the arab lands ??? Remember the arab land are 600 times greater than Israel 3) Peace could have prevailed at any point during the century-long conflict between Israel and its Arab enemies had the Arabs only agreed to put down their arms. In contrast, if Israel would put down its arms it would cease to exist;
Written in your post goes without saying.Will not repeat it,for it would be superfluous. FACT BB did excellently with his speech in Congress The ones here who are criticising him are ONLY the Jew/Israeli bashers that by now we have been accustomed seeing.. My country Israel will surive at ALL ODDS..More improtantly the IDF & IAF+ The NAVAL FORCE.. One ting I have to address and it is this: NO IDF,NO ISRAEL, Therefore let thhe likes of meilssa's GO HANG for all I care..They ae mere EMPTY voices that are empty of content and must be DISCARDED as nothing but UGLY RHETORICAL BULL.
Once reality sets back in.
Ha'aretz clearly disapproves of the results of its own poll, shown by comments like the one about the public dismissing the "learned warnings" about the results of Netanyahu's policies. At least its writers can take comfort in the assurance that Netanyahu should "savor this week and enjoy his weekend" because the support is "unlikely to hold up over time." Clearly the "great unwashed" who support Netanyahu don't have the same keen insights as "the many political and diplomatic analysts who criticized" Netanyahu. Those analysts (and Ha'aretz) may be right, but how about keeping the editorializing in the plethora of anti-Bibi op-eds and just reporting the news in the news articles?
If this poll is correct it shows that the Israeli electorate is totally disconnected from reality. Netanyahu has a good chance to go down in history-as Israel's last prime minister
many jewish women have married arabs in israel.many have moved into the homes of their husbands in ramallah jenin and nablus. so we get along perfectly well with arabs. it is your rabid hysterical posts that we find both amusing and puzzzling.
and i applaud her.there is nothing whatever wrong with that.many jews in israel have done the same it does however explain her visciousness.and she is truly viscious
she writes about how arabs and jews manage to live together in america and intermarry. is that the point about mellisa?is her marriage to a gentleman from the middle east the source of her rabid and vile abuse?
michael g say what you please.we have never taken you for a friend of the jewish nation hasidim or otherwise.
rather late melissa.the deed was done.
He is the best PM for Israel and I wish he was the American President instead of what we have now. Hopefully our impostor will not be re-elected in 2012.
Just goes to show that Israel is completed unwilling to make any peace moves, so Palestinans will HAVE to go the the UN...and US politicians are to blame for supporting Netanyahus nihilistic and democracy-hating stance
If this poll is correct then Israelis will not be able to use the excuse in the future that they didn't know or support its government’s actions and policies regarding the Palestinians. World opinion about your policies towards the Palestinians will increasingly get more hostile and will eventually lead to sanctions and pariah status. In the past you had the support of the vast majority of nations, but now you are left with only the US. So when the day of reckoning for your action arrives, and that day will arrive, don't say we didn't know or support those actions because as this poll shows, YOU DID.
Netanyahu's arrogance and bully personality came through during his meeting with Obama. These traits are not helping Israel's cause or image on the international scene.
Obama knew Netanyahu was going to react like that. He also knew AIPAC was going to act the way it did... He probably knew Netanyahu was going to get a warm reception from the Israeli friendly US Congress... Obama calculated that publicly appearing to be at odd with a very unpopular Israeli PM was not only good for him aboard [where he just happen to be heading :)))] but also good for him at home at home where the majority of Americans are sick of Israeli influence and growing very wary of US - Israeli relationship especially about the aid it receives from US tax payers...( In tough economic times this does not hold over well with the US Public...) Furthermore Obama looks like a BIG hero for standing up to Israel... something that past US presidents refuse to do... That fact alone will do him well in 2012 reelection bid among independent voters which he needs if he hopes to win in 2012... The Bottom Line is that Obama knows it’s probably easier to obtain a Middle East peace agreement negotiating with Hamas than with Bibi and Likud which means that peace with Bibi and Likud is a NO SHOW!!! So he(Obama) very cleverly decides to use Netanyahu as a political tool because this is the only thing worthwhile to do with Bibi. It reminds me of when Obama back in 2008 put his prayer in the Western Wall… Bibi was all too happy to retrieved it and read it to the world. While Obama quietly was content to sit with his leg crossed while looking over at Bibi laughing to himself as Bibi perform one of his all-time favorite acts...
she has posted tens of messages on this thread alone.she is totally obsessed with israel and uses every post to emphasise her total animosity. melissa are you deranged?
BIbi for president 2012! It used to be you had to be a natural born citizen to be elected POTUS. But since the Obama regime rejected that part of the constitution we can now elect anybody. So would Israel please loan us Mr. Netanyahu, the leader of the free world. You can have him back in 8 yrs.
When the Jews were sovereign in their ancient lands and spat in the face of the Romans who granted them privelieges and lenience afforded to no other subjugated people in their Empire. A special tax on the income of Jews throughout the Empire for the maintenence of the temple of which Rome collected not a single percentage point, no temple to Roman god's in Jewish cities and the standards of the legions in Juduea had no craven images and then rebellion. Judea became Palestine, the temple was destroyed, looted and desecrated and a large portion of the population was enslaved. A disaster it would take 2000-years to recover from. Apparently, when we're indepedent we're unable to resist the temptation to kick non-mythical Goliath's in the shin
So, the article has right. In this case, we germans will downgrade the relations between eu and israel. Israel don´t moves, it is time to saction this country like iran and other countries.
Some things never change
or the hand that killed us michael g
From inside the Pentagon/CIA war room let me assure you that everything Carlo Stenger says is his own distorted fantasy. It is his thinking that brought Israel 1000 dead after Oslo and thousands of incoming missiles and rockets from Gaza, and yes from the West Bank. Prime Minister Netanyahu was both magnificent in his performance and magnificent in his reestablishing relations with the White House staff, the defense community, and the intelligence community. Livini, on the other hand did everything possible to undermine Prime Minister Netanyahu. She appears to be personally very ambitious to the detriment of the state of Israel . She went back channel to feed the State Department that “tough love” would gain sufficient Israeli concessions to entice the Palestinians into negotiations. Getting to negotiations is very enticing to the State Department where the personnel have a vested interest in process not in Israel's survival. I urge all readers to re-examine the details of the PLO charter. They have not renounced the desire to destroy Israel. What they have is a modified strategy to take everything they can advance to weaken the state of Israel and then to renew their claims for all of Jerusalem (Jew free) Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc. etc.The Arabs look forward to completing what they attempted to do in 1948 when the combined armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq,( augmented by Arab irregulars, many of them veterans of the SS division of 20,000 Arabs organized by the mufti of Jerusalem who fought for Hitler in Europe and hunted down and brutally murdered Jews) failed to achieve their announced goal of crushing the newborn state of Israel, pushing every last Jew into the sea and having the streets flow deep with Jewish blood.
His popularity may soar in Isreal which sums up the extremist mentality within it but around the world this man is loathed.
The way the congressmen were clapping and standing every couple of minutes reminded me of Bashar al assad going into his fake parliament and everyone clapping. Didn't it occur to you that there should be at least a minority that might disagree in the congress, just out of statistics, why wouldnt they not clap or stand, well for a similar (but not 100% same though) reason that made the syrian people in the parliament clap for Assad!
The leader is not a leader unless we let him lead. Baruch Ha-sham ! PS Jews must look back to their history & that is the ONLy was to have a real future . Bibi is trying that & that is the only way with G-d's help !
Politicians live and breathe and laugh and cry according to the numbers in the polls. One comment: I think that too many israelis put too much importance to the so called "chemistry" between Barack and Binyamin. And - it is true that Obama is not like Bush, a Israel-lover because of the Bible - Obama is not sentimental about Israel. That´s good. That´s very good. He concentrates on facts, logic, rationality and pragmatism. This is much, much better than the support from all the evangelical fans. Dixi.
he's became so popular in the world for his insistence on the non-resolution of the existing problems.....
It appears that Israelis vastly misunderstand who actually has power in the US and how shallow Israel support is the US actually is. Under the US constitution, most of the foreign relations power resides in the President, NOT congress. In fact under GW Bush and his Republican Congress, most of the limited power Congress had was transferred to the President. Congress can clap all they want, but if the President decides to do something different, Congress can only complain on Fox News. The otehr problem is whiel Israel appears top have wide support in tehUS, that support is very, very shallow. Right now Israel is not causing any pain for Americans, but if something happens that causes Americans pain, support for Israel will disappear immediately. things are changing fast in the world and Israel is not changing with them.
Enough said...
All Nuttenyahoo did is increase world isolation and have them back the PA to declare a Pal state in Sept. Thank you.
Arabs to Netanyahu : SHALOM ?????!!!!!!!! .
It just goes to show you that the "public" recognizes the reality that you don't, just like the US publc does as well. Let us know when you find a Palestinian peace now movement!
Israelis will pay for this as more people reject what their presence is doing to the Palestinian people in their native homeland. it represents unGodly greed and disregard for Jews to promote themselves on the backs of the Palestinian people and their homeland in Palestine. They will never succeed as a people in the region.....Dutch
Know your history kid.
So basically, if some 5000 years passed and the red indians were powerful, and expelled ALL the americans and killed them and told them to get out makes it right? If you want history, without the ottomans and the Morrocans in the middle ages, there wouldn't be much jews left, they protected you when the "christians" persecuted you.... You are doing the same to palestinains as Nazis did to you, it doesnt make sense buddy
Know your history the Palestinians have been there a hell of a long time!!
that post yesterday was a fake. regards, cipora
the truth is that americans abhorr islamic terror and the tyrannies that have nurtured it. americans understand full well that the essentials of netanyahu's speech are true. congress also knows that israel is indeed the only democracy in the middle east. members of congress understand the dire threat posed by a genocidal nuclear armed iran. congress undoubtedly appreciated a speech which unabashedly supports real democracy, rather then the illusory democracy of the arab spring. hence, support for israel stems from shared values and interests.
And he voted for the Kill-Medicare-Health-Care-for-the-Elderly plan. And he wants to buy Marine Landing Craft that are not mine or IED-resistant. And your lack of recognition that Turkey and Iraq are in the Middle East is a bit inaccurate. Democracies evolve. The US had slavery at its inception.
"I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction" (2001). You swallowed the performance of a cheapest populist of the herzlian 'massenpolitik' kind, and on the top, took off your hat in thanks. There's no proletariat. There's 'people', and you're one of that mass.
You don't pay much attention to the Congress of the United States. "Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
Compared to most countries in the worlds, the number of Jews in America is second only to Israel (could be more even!) That explains a lot, surely!
The Prime Minister won the Oscar not in Hollywood but in the American Congress. His amazing interpretation has provoked a strenous ovation from both democrats and republicans in the Capitol where the USA Representatives ran to assume the rol of enthusiastic mass. The movie was sold immediately to Israel with great success. Doubts of same luck in other countries. Obviously the Arabs woud refuse to see it . The important thing is that the Prime minister returns to the Saint Land with the Golden Calf in hand. What would happen to the worshippers and not only to them?. God knows. It could be possible that the Prime Minister and the American Congress would accept a tempting proposal to participate in future hollywoody remakes of A Face in the Crowd and Elmer Gantry.
this act renders israel's siege useless. its so wonderful how arabs standing up for one another can yield such great results.
Obviously the Congressmen and women were enchanted not by AIPAC but by Bibi and Israel. This is proof of American love of Jews. Oh yes, there are also those like the two Marks on this Talkback, or even more anti-Israeli than them, in big numbers. Yeah, America is, thank God, BIG ! But America's majority is with us; the UK too ! A good start. We were pounded continuously by Leftists and foreigners in these pages for years, and, the terrible thing, ONE-SIDED ! ALWAYS ONLY ISRAEL WAS GUILTY - OF EVERYTHING ! We will continue to be blamed of everything while Abbas/Hamas are smelling like roses. But Abbas has revealed himself to the world that he is incapable to give in even a nano item. Why? Because of the 64 years of brainwashing Arab people to the point that if he would give in on anything he'd be murdered. They did it to themselves: to hate us infinitely. So, they will continue forever asking the return of millions of Arabs in small Israel - the utter impossibility. To take away from us Jerusalem. To refuse accepting what we desire to call ourselves - Jewish. And the like ... while at the same time keeping the option to throw us out of Israel, launching rockets every time they don't like something, ..... do I need to continue?
... and of course American Jews and Moslems live together peaceably and even intermarry. Everybody lives well in America peaceably with other people. The only country in the world, my country, where people live like that. Except, of course, when some people, fortunately not many, kill others with bombs, etc...... because they are American or Jewish .... But that's a recent phenomenon .... Among my best friends there were - one Turkish, the other Libyan, and the third Pakistanese. So, what were you trying to teach me?
i sometimes wonder about your logic.is it possible that you have married a middle easterner and hence your total obsession with us?
I've never read anything so lacking in self awareness in a western newspaper before: "The public thus seems to be turning a deaf ear to the many political and diplomatic analysts who criticized the prime minister's address to Congress and who said it proved that Netanyahu was not capable of pulling the negotiations with the Palestinians out of the dangerous mire they are in." "The public also seems to have dismissed the learned warnings that Netanyahu had generated an unnecessary confrontation with Obama, for which Israel is liable to pay a high price down the line. Apparently average Israelis - from the right, the center, and even from some parts of the left - are welcoming Netanyahu back to Israel with open arms." All these clever people that we like, tell the public what to think, but the public just don't seem to get the message! What incredible arrogance, and embarrassing editorializing in an news article.
in a neutral point of view, i think netanyahu destroyed the israeli public image in the long run, by repeatedly stomping peace, and stomping the prospect of peace infront of his yes-men. while his fans cheered. today he is popular, but for every action theres an opposite and equal reaction. The reaction: israel lost credibility as a seeker of peace.
the Iraqi people rightly cheered US troops when they freed them from Saddam's tyranny. The spiral into violence that consumed Iraq was perpetrated by ARAB MUSLIMS and Iran- NOT the US. DON'T DISTORT THE TRUTH!
i was comparing saddam's decisions and actions to netanyahu's decisions and actions. ***NOT COMPARING SADDAM TO NETANYAHU***
Vox populi, vox Dei - the voice of the people is the voice of God.
Wait until September .. When the voting for a Palestinian state takes place!!
Obama & Cameron voted yesterday in their press conference. In case you missed it: They both stated the road to peace is through negotiations with Israel, not the UN. You can't force peace between neighbors, it has to be mutually agreed upon.
The Jewish state of Israel was "imposed" upon its neighbors if i recall...
Netanyahu's bombastic speech before the US Congress was met with standing ovations. Too bad he was only preaching to the converted. He did however embarrass the one person in the US who controls America's Foreign Policy (and the UN veto), President Obama, and anger a great many Americans who are now openly questioning America's support for Israel. Now Obama has to try an sell to Europe that they should not vote to recognize a Palestinian State in September. After Netanyahu's performance most of Europes Leaders now recognize that the principal obstacle to a Peace Settlement is the Israeli Government. Congratulations Bibi, you won the battle, but lost the war.
PALESTINIANS WILL BE FREE!!! Judeia e Samaria??? What a joke!
Political analysts would see an empty glass even if it was three quarters full. They are basically PAID LIARS. How else would they earn a living? And they call it 'doing an honest days work' LOL
Netanyahu said everything almost perfectly, and he did so while being very polite and respectful of Obama and the United States. He was terrific.
Netanyahu said everything almost perfectly, and he did so while being very polite and respectful of Obama and the United States. He was terrific.
Thank you Haaretzr telling us that you and your hand-picked analysts really know the truth and nothing but the truth. Continue to live in your ivory tower. You are beyond help.
Israelis are not looking for a leader that will give them peace - they are looking for a leader that gives them strength.
And this match with our "spiritual leaders" who make a normal man ashamed every time when they open their mouth and show their "smartness" on fundamental question like if is ok to itch the nose in Shabat
to put it mildly.let the majority have their way without your pissing at us from the side.
This is why you can get away with this in America. The majority of Americans are woefully ignorant about this conflict, could not locate Tel Aviv on a map and probably less than one in a thousand could locate Ramallah, East Jerusalem, Ariel or Ma'aleh Adumim. It's harder to fool the better informed Europeans. Believe me, I know, Americans have the dimmest understanding of what if reallly going on in Israel/Palestine. That is why a con artist like Bibi can pull off a stunt like this.
why shut down free speech? is that what you learned on college campus from the Comintern agitprop lessons from the Jihadis commy alliance?
not to mention afghanistan and pakistan.and yemen.and of course iraq. melissa put your own house in order.
in the 1940s
Haaretz 'analysts' try to impose their own ideology in the guise of objective analysis, but it seems the public is a bit wiser than that. You all expected Netanyahu to go on a collision course with the USA because he does not follow your recipe for negotiations but he got a standing ovation from the American Congress for saying the simple truths: the 1967 borders are not on the table any more (as Clinton understood), the Fatah-Hamas deal is a step back, and the Palestinians will have to recognize Israel as a Jewish state because this is just what it is.
This is the basic problem with democracy: the uneducated thick headed riff-ruff simply ignores the ideological directives of the progressive elite, the ones that see and understand. This state of affairs must be ended by any means, and the teachings of Haaretz must be made compulsory reading and recited in political-ideology meetings in schools, companies and universities, like in the glory days of socialism.
Obama lit the fire with his 67' borders statement last week. The problem; Most of the media missed the, "with mutually agreed land swaps" part and the Bibi haters pounced, hook line and sinker. Unless I missed a new policy shift, they both said the same thing? In this day and age, every word can be replayed over and over, thanks to the internet. Bibi told the world, along with our Prez, "No to indefensible borders." Seems reasonable enough to me.
I disagree: If they or we did not have a physical border, the enemy would simply walk in a cause havoc. Radar takes care of the "air" border as well. As to Bibi refusing: Here is that selective hearing again. He said "mutually agreed land swaps." That is NOT a refusal.
That is no small achievement.
im really curious as to how you came up with this conclusion.
Israelis know the difference between the false peace that will result from total capitulation to Arab demands and real peace that will come from flexibility while remaining true to our principles and needs. That's why Netanyahu is popular.
say it, i know you can.
got was his raw material, not his performance. When a group seeks your destruction, there is little one can do with them except protect oneself and try to make peace with other groups. In terms of making peace, the bottom line, surely, is defensible borders. That is what resolution 237 was about when it resolved that Israel withdraw to secure borders. As to Jerusalem, it is a Jewish city built by Jews but lived in for over 1000 years by Arabs. That is not being denied. Under Arab control, Jews did not far well in the city and were indeed banned from places they consider most holy. That has not happened to Arabs while the city was under Jewish control, except for brief period when Pals were threatening violence. At times of calm, there was complete access for persons other than those who sew, breath and live terror.
a) President Obama reiterated that the U.S. is against a unilateral move by the U.N. to make a declaration come September of a Palestinian state without a negotiated agreement. b) President Obama announced that the borders between the two states be based on 1967 with swaps of territory. c) it's like at school, when one guy ends up doing the whole group project, but in this case it's not Netanyahu because he's just the talker! d) President Obama has earned his Nobel Peace prize and it's fat chance Netanyahu will ever earn one.
These are the same elitist analysts who told the people that Oslo would be a good thing and then blamed Israel when over 1000 Jews were murdered by Palestinians in their Intifada rage. The same analysts who told us that pulling out of Gaza would bring democracy to the Palestinians and Peace to the Israelis. Instead, it left all of Israel's southern cities open to daily rocket attacks and Gilad Shalit rotting away in some God forsaken hell hole. And who did the 'analysts' blame ? This newspaper (and their analysts) has a declining readership of less than 6.6 percent (look it up in Wikipedia). The largest and fastest growing newspaper in Israel (Yisrael Hayom) just surpassed Yediot as the number one read Israeli newspaper. It's as far to the Right as Haaretz is to the Left. As the readership of the old school declines even further, the analysts will blame everyone but themselves for what went wrong.
Bibi's lecture of the president has made me reconsider my 40 year support of Israel's agenda. Arrogance, thy name is "Bibi"
The bad news for Israel is that, because their their crude propaganda was so successful, it never got any better. The raid on Entebbe gave Israeli propaganda something to work with. The propaganda defending the Gaza op and the raid on the Turkish flotilla just made people sick. The same with Netanyahu's visit to congress.
The speech (watch it ALL before you criticize it!) was honest, forthcoming, difficult in parts for him to say, and highly informative. It is highly ingenuous to suggest he `fooled` Congress. Those who suggest so are disrespectful of the United States and its Legislature. Yes, he `acted` in parts, but so did Ronald Reagan in his day, and it did him no harm either. Just accept that the speech, the attitude, the contents and the tone were all masterful, and Bibi changed many peoples` perceptions (including mine). He has completely put the Pals on the back foot...they are clutching at straws to condemn him, but it is no use...Netanyahu was brilliant!
The criticism is to the content not the way he speaks, or his English language skills.
Egypt's decision Wednesday to end its blockade of Gaza by opening the only crossing to the Hamas-ruled Palestinian territory this weekend could ease the isolation of 1.4 million Palestinians there. It also puts the new Egyptian regime at odds with Israel, which insists on careful monitoring of people and goods entering Gaza for security reasons. The world is changing and time is running out. It's time for peace.
this is shows beyond the shadow of the doubt what, not just the Palestinian people alone, but the entire world community what we are up to: very deranged fascio-colonial thuggish society.
but the reality on the ground is vastly different. Maybe you haven't heard of these countries so check them out, Egypt (still killing its own people) Iran, stoning, hangings and torture commonplace, Somalia with over 3000,000 murdered, Pakistan with hundreds dying every week in suicide bombings, Afghanistan where Women are treated like dogs by the Taliban, Yemen, Burma, Syria, Indonesia, Morocco, Algeria , Iraq and Sudan. Speak to these people and tell us all what the "WORLD" thinks of Islamic countries. The lies and distortions currently emanating from Israel pall into insignificance compared to the murderous tribalism that never seems to end throughout the Muslim World. This is an indisputable fact
Burma is not Moslem country. It's mostly Buddhist. But I agree they are also one of the worst human rights violators.
Israel is living on borrowed time with the American congress, the American people, the UN and the international community. So far Israel has done well for itself just by acting like Israel. Little by little, people have gotten weary or this routine and Israel's popularity is constantly dropping to new lows. This is not my opinion. This is the opinion of various Israeli officials, as reported in Haaretz. Anyone who has achieved a long string of success begins to think that the party will never end, but the party always does end, every single time. The big question for Israel is how ugly it will get when that happens.
in a country that is not even yorus?!
The majority of American Jews would not know what a strong leader is whether he speaks English with an accent or not. They voted for Obama and that shows their ignorance. I am proud to say,as an American Jew,I vote conservative and respect Bibi.
THAT SHOW HOW BIASED U ARE,IAM CONSERVATIVE AND VOTED FOR OBAMA,BECAUSE HE IS GOOD FOR THE USA,N.OT TO ONOTHER COUNTRY
Even the Atlantic's ardent zionist Jeffrey Goldberg said yesterday: "If I were a Palestinian (and, should there be any confusion on this point, I am not), and if I were the sort of Palestinian who believed that Israel should be wiped off the map, then I would be quite pleased with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s performance before Congress this morning."
Not to worry, the US public also supported President GW Bush when he claimed he would "take it to the enemy". Hindsight suggests Bush will ultimately be regarded as one of the very worst presidents the USA has ever had, -breaking the US budget, ruining relations with most of the world, and causing the giant stock market crash of 2007..Sounds like Bibi is in good company.
Still numerous enough to be dangerous. Read that whichever way you want.
We know that Bibi wants peace, we know that Bibi wants to insure security for our families. We know that the world at large would throw us to the wolves for Saudi Oil interest and out of hatred of the Jewish people, and that Bibi knows this as well. That is why Bibi is popular.
german news title after bibis speech: bibi is the problem at way to peace. p.s."throw us to the wolfes" - *headshakin*
Just as a suicide bomber, you are as far away from God as can possibly be.
Those are the "good Germans". We already know what the "bad Germans" think, but thanks anyway.
My Arab friends might not agree with me, but they know me as a person of honor. You I do not know and care not to.
Go home or make aliyah.
why were there death camps?
And that of the US Congress is tanking. Bunch of sold out cowards!
Congress popularity is probably soaring too. I wish we had some data and didn't have to guess. Why wouldn't it soar, we know about 75% of Americans support Israel.
Nasrallah:"No peace in Middle East as long as Israel exists."
Correction, 75% of the U.S. Congress support Israel.
cowards? How silly of you..the speech was inspiring and truthful..if you cannot stand the truth that is your problem. Seems like you are one of those people that lets hate get in the way of common sense and truth.
mellisa you are not looking that good either ,look in the mirror ,why dont you
Bibi was amazing.
I would vote for Netanyahu for President, but alas he can't run despite having lived in and gone to school in the USA, because he was born in Hawaii, oops, I mean Israel.
Israelis really are blind to reality of their position in the world and live in a fantasy world, oblivious to how Netantayu is leading them to further isolation and threatening the very existence of Israel. The Israel public is so sel-absorbed that they think they are immune to the dangers their government is bringing on them. Wake up, Israel!!
That is what the world thinks. Not your world. But the one that matters.
The US congress has no power over international stuff.
No one can continue to say that Israel's position is being driven by the far right anymore. Being openly disrespectful to your only ally in International relations, offering nothing but rehashed impossibilities to Palestinians and calling them 'generous', then giving the middle finger to the rest of the world in front a bought congress, and getting a 15 point increase in the polls? Wake up Israel the world will not stand idly by any longer.
i see many gov in europe driven to the right (denmark, holland, hungary, so on ).but not as far as israels. some fanatics got enormous influence. thats a big problem. asking me what will bibi say in 2013 when austria could have far right chancellor.fpö
Sure just forget the recognition and support in 1948 by a remorseful and sympathetic international community which created your state, whom you've been constantly giving the finger to for the past 60 years. Enjoy your sanctions.
You mean that you get nervous when you bomb them? Wow! Who would have thunk?
the EU is inconsequential. Powerless countries with loud confused governments.
You seem to forget the EU consists of 27 countries, which many are the richest ones in the world, US is loosing all the time it´s position. Russia, China, Brasil and in the future also Africa will clearly overcome. So how long do you think that Israel will enjoy some special benefits if does not listen the others than US (which also is not so "patient" with all the actions of Israel)
...the US HAD an actor as a President, and he was pretty damn good! (You do Congress, and the American public, a great disservice by suggesting they are fools). The sooner people understand politicians HAVE to be actors, in order to appeal to their audiences, the better. Netanyahu was terrific and said everything he needed to say in a very telegenic way. People who did not even watch him are moaning and groaning, but I dare `Ab Arse` or any of the other `leaders` to put their points of view across in such a professional and convincing way. Before the speech, I was a skeptic. Not any more. Bibi HAS what it takes.
What part of Bibi's speech did he use to "fool" us? The part where he stated that he will never allow his people to be subjugated to terrorism and rocket attacks? That is what he meant by saying "No." Can you blame him for wanting to live in a secure state? Please explain the "fooling us" part? I have yet to hear it. Thanks MohamedAliUsa
And we would all be living in Shangri-la. Peace and prosperity!
Sad, very sad state of affairs indeed. In case there were any doubts
She would have at least addressed international concerns, even if only for show. All Bibi did was echo Israel's worn out hasbara!
and the palestinians take over judea and samaria and then start firing rockets at us from the hills will you take responsibility?
Netanyahu's final solution to the Palestinian threat. Then they will wake up in horror.
Palestinians and Israel's sephardim share genes...so ummm...guess what?
Do you think that using the holocaust to justify their own will work, or do you think they'll rely on "we didn't know", and "I was only following orders"?
"It would be worthwhile for Netanyahu to savor this week and enjoy his weekend. These numbers are exceptional, and it's unlikely they will hold up over time. "The Middle East, to which he returned yesterday, doesn't give its leaders too many reasons to celebrate."
We don't need your lousy cash. Most Israelis would rather be USA independent and not have to take your baloney
would be poll numbers on a hypothetical election, seeing how likud polls vs kadima. Also interesting would be to an inclusive poll to see the popularity of all parties of the knesset from labor, beiteinu, meretz, and barak. just a thought
such a typical haaretz analysis.yossi verter patronises the israeli public telling us he knows better.that the israeli public is too stupid to understand.well mr verter i beg to differ.
During the Vietnam War the US Jewish left could take credit for a larger share of the US withdrawal and defeat in SE Asia. The gentile canard "the Jews knifed us in the back" rhetoric used by the Nazi's during the formative years of the Third Reich seemed valid. The Jewish left contues to behave antagonistically to concepts of nationalism and patriotism; but this time it is against the security issues facing the Jewish state. This should be further discussed within a context of fight/flight reaction under hostile conditions.
I had the same reaction to these sour grapes! The "progressive" analyst can't possibly admit that maybe, just maybe, the people have applauded the speech, despite the paradigms of pundits, because the people are smarter than the critics? Nah. That's not possible. They must be deaf. The left hate Netanyahu because he explains clearly and honestly, facts that expose the fraud of the left. They hate being exposed as frauds. How dare Netanyahu point out that the 1967 lines make Israel 9 miles wide ! How dare he ! How dare Netanyahu point out that the HamasPA government mourned Bin Laden ! The people aren't supposed to know that ! The people are only supposed to know that Abbas told a Bnei Brith gathering that he wants peace.
i dunno melissa.what on earth are you talking about.
There's been no fallout yet, good or bad, and they're going off of his coalition partners' ideological euphoria...lol.
There won't be another Munich 1938.Keep it in mind,dreamer.
loved the speech, love the coverage its getting, and love the reaction from those in the know who i have heard from... plus hes a phiadaelphia guy like myself!
The US Congress does not understand Likud policies and it shows their ignorance of Israeli politics. Maybe they should sit down with FM Lieberman and get his views on race, or Shas' on civil marriage. What a snow job by Bibi!