Abbas wants Obama guarantee for East Jerusalem freeze

Brod: "Judea and Samaria are Israel`s liberated historic homeland." THEN CLAIM IT AS PART OF ISRAEL. It may have escaped your notice, Brod, but Israel has been in complete control of the West Bank for over 42 years, and in all that time it has conspicuously failed to claim the territory for itself. So why don't you sit down, furrow your brow, and try to work out ***why*** Israel refuses to claim something that ***you*** insist is there for the taking. Is it because: 1) 42 years of successive Israeli govts didn't known their arse from their elbow? or is it because: 2) You don't know what you are talking about? Here's a little hint: Israel **did** try that with East Jerusalem, and 42 years later it is still no closer to having that recognized by..... anyone..... except you. Funny that, heh?

Judea and Samaria are Israel's liberated historic homeland.

Sound fair to me:) Really I like that idea.

If the PA is dissolved and Palestine relinquishes the right to be a separate state, then the land, its people and its institutions become part of the occupying nation, Israel - which also has a legal duty to provide free and fair electoral representation. Not so clear to me, but it would be a very intersting move from the Palestinians to do that. Actually they should have done it long time before, because at first sight, it looks like a win-win situation. So......why they did not do it? Are they so worried to keep the Zionist state alive ? Moreover another question for you. Why they didn't launch civic resistance a la Ghandi instead of terrorism. Actually that would have worked better for them. Something irrational..isn't it? The same irrationality was not accepting partition, the Peel commission proposals and not accepting Clinton proposals in 2000. Maybe.... Israel can still "trust" the palestinians...

Or annexing or non annexing. Jews live in areas that were not annexed so far. They live in a disputed territory whose final status is not certain yet. They will live there forever or... will be dispatch from there. All depends on negotiations between the parts. In the meantime the formula More settlements= less terrorism is more accurate than the formula Settlements out= end of terrorism. Gaza is the absolute prove. Crystal clear. I am totally sorry about that, but it is absolutely true. Annexation will come out

It holds the WB under the law of belligerent occupation. That status places a number of obligations upon Israel. It is responsible for the welfare of the occupied people, the safeguarding and development of Palestinian civic institutions, etc., working with the civil authority (currently the PA). If the PA is dissolved and Palestine relinquishes the right to be a separate state, then the land, its people and its institutions become part of the occupying nation, Israel - which also has a legal duty to provide free and fair electoral representation. So forget Green Line, security barrier, settlements, West and East J'sem, lopsided allocation of water and the rest, it all becomes one big Israel under Israeli law where all citizens are entitled to stand for election and vote. That's the international law and Israel has as much chance of wriggling round it as apartheid South Africa did with its bantustan policy. Hamas or Fatah as the largest party in the Knesset is inevitable. Enjoy.

We don't need the arab part of the city. Do you want all the arabs in east Jerusalem to be israeli citizens? In that case we better begin to study arabic. Shavua tov

What most of you don't understand is that current events are going to plan. Yes, Arafat's Salami speech plan. Estimation of how long it takes between each slice of the salami is the only unknown. And Abas is playing his part for the cause. Many, who warned against Oslo, could foresee this path to disaster. Hopefully it is not too late. Jews need to unite and soon.

It's time that the PLO is dissolved and this charade is ended.

Only twice in Jerusalem's history has it served as a national capital. The first time was as the capital of the two Jewish Commonwealths during the First and Second Temple periods, as described in the Bible, reinforced by archaeological evidence and numerous ancient documents. The second time is in modern times as the capital of the State of Israel. It has never served as an Arab capital for the simple reason that there has never been a Palestinian Arab state. More about Jerusalem at : http://xrl.us/bjheo

Abbas wants !!! SO WHAT. There is no east Jerusalem only one Jerusalem combined and holy to all religions.

ands the end of all negociations, forcing the west to take a stace, it doesn't like to take and has so far avoided.

... a deal without negotiations. Instead of sitting at the table and actually compromising, they expect Obama to get them what they demand. The time is fast approaching when Israel will just declare a border and set it unilaterally.

"Israel should emphasize to the world in its hasbara that the occupation is really A PEACEKEEPING MISSION. No different from Australia`s policing role in the South Pacific (ie, East Timor, Solomon Islands), NATO`s presence in Kosovo, France`s presence in West Africa, South Africa (POST-APARTHEID)`s policeman role in Southern Africa, etc." Oh? Are they claiming these places for themselves, instituting their own civilian law, illegally annexing? Bulldozing homes, building separation barriers?

resigning as a result of this impasse, then really the whole peace effort would be shelved for some time. My question is how do the parties concerned not see the interrelated problems internationally with this unresolved Israeli-Palestinian conflict of 60 years? It shouldn't be this complicated.

Finally, the Palis can return to their roots and reclaim their Jordanian citizenship, and the Gazans can once again become the Egyptians of their forefathers. Wonderful news!!

Funny, I don't see Australia building settlements throughout the South Pacific, nor do I see NATO enforcing blockades on entire towns and cutting them off from the outside World, nor France evicting West Africans from their homes so they can be replaced with French owners. Your logic couldn't be more twisted or wrong.

"Peacekeeping mission"? Your Zionist hasbara needs work. We've seen better.

"..Fatah leadership ..... is abandoning the two-state solution in favor of a single state, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, which would grant equal rights to all its citizens." Oh really. Doesn't this sound remarkably like the Iranian position? One small problem with that idea is that it cuts across a sovereign country called Israel. And Israel can't be forced into accepting hostile aliens. As such it is tantamount to a declaration of war on the Jewish state.

How strange is it that, in an age of heightened UN activism and US military ambition that the world zeroes in on Israel's presence in the West Bank as "illegal." Israel should emphasize to the world in its hasbara that the occupation is really A PEACEKEEPING MISSION. No different from Australia's policing role in the South Pacific (ie, East Timor, Solomon Islands), NATO's presence in Kosovo, France's presence in West Africa, South Africa (POST-APARTHEID)'s policeman role in Southern Africa, etc. Israel's presence may not be "UN-approved" or "multilateral," but it serves the IDENTICAL purpose of shoring up a failed state (the PA), protecting persecuted minorities (the Christians from Islamist/Hamas violence), building infrastructure, promoting investment, functioning as a stabilizer, and providing Palestinians jobs. We must look at Israel in COMPARATIVE PERSPECTIVE, for it shares so much in common with so many others across the world.

Abbas should stop making the American President as his Dhimmi-slave! And he should stop usurping Israel's Capital-City Jerusalem. Netanyahu should tell them NO, NO, NO to their crap. Jerusalem is Israel's eternal, indivisible Capital-City since ancient time. Obama should stop making a fool of himself by pretending he owns Israel.

In your dreams only - building freeze in for Jews in the Land of Israel Yerushalayim included. Never! The Land is designated to the Jewish people by the Creator and King of the Universe - Abbas, Fatah nor anyone else has a saying in this matter. Stop your whining, please!