• Published 00:00 20.06.06
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'The protocols of the elders of Brussels'

By Adi Schwartz

The original sin is attributed to Charles de Gaulle. Disappointed by the loss of the French colonies in Africa and the Middle East, as well as with France's waning influence in the international arena, the president of France in the 1960's decided to create a strategic alliance with the Arab and Muslim world to compete with the dominance of the United States and the Soviet Union. This alliance became the position of the European Community (pre-European Union) during the course of the 1970s, when an extensive European-Arab dialogue developed. However, this alliance, in the context of which Europe allowed the immigration of millions of Muslims to its territories and adopted an anti-Israeli and anti-American policy, will ultimately - and in fact has already - transform Europe into a continent under the thumb of the Arab and Muslim world. Europe is dead, and in its stead "Eurabia" has arisen.

This controversial thesis belongs to Bat Ye'or, the pen name of a self-taught Jewish intellectual who was born in Egypt and who currently lives in Switzerland. She refuses to reveal her real name for security reasons, she says, but her thesis is just the prologue to far-reaching conclusions and extreme statements about some European leaders who are kowtowing to Islam. While her ideas were once almost completely ignored, nowadays, because of the prevailing consternation in Europe regarding its complex relations with the Muslim world, she is receiving more attention, though she is still quite far from entering the European mainstream.

Arab allies

Last week she was invited to Jerusalem to speak at a conference of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the study of Antisemitism at Hebrew University. "This is a matter of a total transformation of Europe, which is the result of an intentional policy," says Bat Ye'or in an interview. "We are now heading towards a total change in Europe, which will be more and more Islamicized and will become a political satellite of the Arab and Muslim world. The European leaders have decided on an alliance with the Arab world, through which they have committed to accept the Arab and Muslim approach toward the United States and Israel. This is not only with respect to foreign policy, but also on issues engaging European society from within, such as immigration, the integration of the immigrants and the idea that Islam is part of Europe."

Bat Ye'or's most recent book, "Eurabia - The Euro-Arab Axis," which was published in English in 2005, could not have been published at a better time as far as she is concerned, precisely when the question of the Muslim immigrants' integration into the continent and Europe's cultural coloration is coming up repeatedly for discussion. The terror attacks in Madrid and London, the Prophet Mohammed cartoons, the murder of the Dutch director Theo Van Gogh and the riots about six months ago in the Paris suburbs have made these questions more critical. Europe, with its pluralist and democratic ethos, has hesitated in its reaction to these phenomena, although today there is a move toward policy changes.

Europe's hesitation has helped bolster extremist attitudes toward Muslim immigration in particular. In the political realm, this is seen among the far-right movements. In intellectual circles, this is evinced inter alia by people like the provocative Italian journalist and writer Oriana Fallaci, Dutch member of parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and also Bat Ye'or. Although all of these individuals are opposed to the extreme right and its violence, they are warning that Europe as a secular, enlightened civilization with a Judeo-Christian background is dying. In its stead, says Bat Ye'or, will come a civilization subjugated to Islamic forces and their jihad ideology.

A controversial figure

Bat Ye'or's opinions have made her a controversial figure, as has the fact that she is not an academic and has never taught at any university. She conducts her research independently. Since the 1970s, Bat Ye'or, who is now 71, has published about 10 books, most of which deal with the life of the Christian and Jewish minorities in Muslim countries. She bases her most recent research on the conduct of institutions in the EU, and mainly on the protocols of the European-Arab Dialogue (EAD), which she says aims to establish a strategic alliance by means of tightening political, economic, diplomatic and cultural ties. The result, Bat Ye'or says, is European suicide.

What is motivating Europe in this alliance?

"What led Europe to accept the French policy was the energy crisis after the Yom Kippur War. Another issue is a security issue, because Palestinian terrorists began to strike on European land at the end of the 1960s. This policy is aimed at protecting Europe from the threat of terror."

If so, how do you explain the terror attack at Lockerbie or the attacks in Madrid and London, which occurred despite this alliance?

"Terror is a way of pressuring Europe, which is displaying weakness, while the Arab states are interested in obtaining something from it. In Madrid there is no evidence that any particular Arab government was involved, but in general it can be said that Europe is under a constant threat of terror. Terror is a way of applying pressure on the European countries to surrender constantly to the Arab representatives' demands. The Europeans had aims of their own in this dialogue, and the Arabs had other aims. Sometimes the Arabs threaten Europe by shutting the oil faucet. They demand, for example, that Europe always speak out for the Palestinians and against Israel."

Has Europe consciously decided to take upon itself Arab politics and culture?

"The Europeans hoped to develop, by means of the EAD, a new means for control of the Arab world. Ultimately, it is Europe that created Yasser Arafat and the Hamas government."

What is the worst-case scenario? Where is Europe going?

"If it keeps on this way, Europe will become a vassal, a satellite of the Arab world, which is larger in terms of numbers. Demographically, we are already losing. The vacuum that has been created in Europe will be filled by the children of immigrants. Today we already know that in France the children of the immigrants are opposed to the French curriculum and do not want to learn about the Holocaust. They want Arab-Muslim history and are opposed to European history. This is the Islamization of the culture. ... The EAD includes a policy of eliminating and delegitimizing Israel. In Europe there is a complete alliance with the Palestinians. There are those, for example, who say that Israel is the greatest danger to world peace. Or the initiative in Britain to organize an academic boycott in order to isolate Israel. This is a way to de-legitimize Israel."

Gaining interest

"Up until the 1980s, she was not accepted at all," says Professor Robert Wistrich, head of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism. "In academic circles they scorned her publications. Only when Bernard Lewis published the book 'Jews of Islam' with quotations from Bat Ye'or did they begin to pay any attention to her. A real change toward her emerged in the 1990s, and especially in recent years. Today there is more awareness of the fanatical aspect of Islam."

Wistrich, the organizer of the conference in Jerusalem last week, says he invited Bat Ye'or to discuss whether the phenomenon of multiculturalism was beneficial for the Jews. On the one hand, he says, the Muslims do not want to integrate into European society, while on the other hand, Europe professes an ideology of multiculturalism but does not know how to absorb them. In the past multiculturalism was perceived as beneficial to Jews, but now there are about 1 million Jews and nearly 20 million Muslims on the Continent. According to him, Bat Ye'or's session was the stormiest one at the conference and one participant, a Muslim from France, burst out at her and charged that he was offended by her remarks.

"I gained recognition earlier in the United States," says Bat Ye'or. "In Europe I was only invited to small conferences at first. They didn't even mention my name in publications. In the United States, I am certain that the September 11 attacks woke people up, including the Jewish community that had previously ignored me, because it belongs more to the left."

She says that with the exposure, the attempts to revile her also increased. "Bat Ye'or deals with the decisions that have been taken over time via the EAD," says Wistrich. "At the conference I said half-joking that it was possible to call this 'the protocols of the elders of Brussels.' However, unlike 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,' which is a total forgery, here we have documents and here we have a question of interpretation. It is definitely possible to argue with the interpretation that she gives to the protocols. I myself don't see it this way, but some of the processes she describes are correct, for example the double attitude toward terror and the Palestinian issue. What is interesting in the European context is the gap, and even the abyss that has emerged between the elites - officials, the media, academics and the church - and public opinion. In a survey conducted in Germany recently 83 percent gave the answer 'fanaticism' to the question 'What is Islam?' Sixty percent said there was a clash of civilizations. This is why Bat Ye'or is getting more attention these days."

Her opinions on the integration of the Muslims and Europe's bleak future are acquiring many supporters for her in Europe's extreme right-wing circles.

"Some of the ideas I have written about are very much accepted today," says Bat Ye'or, "sometimes also on the extreme right and in racist movements. I believe this is bad. Attacking Muslims, sometimes even physically, is stupid."

Nevertheless, it is easier today for a Jew in France to get a good job than it is for a French Muslim. How does this line up with your theory?

"It depends where. There is a certain boycott of Jews in the political arena. Jews can't get everywhere. The universities, for example, are controlled by the Palestinians. Though there are Jews in Parliament, they have to take the pro-Arab policy upon themselves - otherwise they will be boycotted."

Why then did Europe cooperate in the American war in Afghanistan?

"In Afghanistan Muslims toppled the Taliban. The idea was to help the Muslims. Iraq is a special case. France had very good relations with Saddam Hussein, and many French companies made money from the 'oil for food' program. Iraq was the fulcrum of the struggle, because Saddam was an anti-American and anti-Israeli hero."

If so, then it is impossible to rely on Europe to help solve the nuclear crisis with Iran.

"No. The Europeans will not do anything to protect Israel. If at all, they will do something because Iran is threatening other Muslim countries with which Europe has good relations. Europe is not interested in Israel's future at all."

Bat Ye'or. (Daniel Bar-On/BauBau)

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  • 44. 0 0
    EU millions to Arabs
    • Charles Oren
    • 23.06.06
    • 09:59

    It is strange that this long article does not mention the millions sent by the EU every month, for the last few years, to the Palestinians. What do the EU expect to receive in return for these payments? Could this be "protection" money? This is similar to the millions paid by the Europeans to the Barbary Pirates for "safe" passage of their ships in the Mediterranean. That ended in 1800, when the pirates demanded ransom from the newly established USA. Instead of paying, Thomas Jefferson sent in the Marines. They destroyed the pirate's bases in North Africa and so ended piracy in the Mediterranean. This precedence teaches a lesson to end terrorism, the modern ?piracy?

  • 43. 0 0
    Bat Ye'or The protocol...
    • Czeslaw
    • 22.06.06
    • 07:35

    I think the matter is more complected than that History in Nearest countries is like a river with flowing waters There seems to be no particular part of history that any Arab or non Arab country would agree upon Similar like in Europe. Problem range from the questions boarder prior to the war or after the war Then 2nd question follows which war? Which period we are talking about However in Europe we never engaged God as a foundation to solve the border matters. Yes, there were conflicts and wars, people were killed To me only know region of the world which is dragging God as a "witness" to the boarder problems is Near East from Iran to the Nile country maybe further I do not understand, why Muslim and Jews are using God as a piece of rag to wipe the other party out of picture or just use the name of God (Allah Yahwe) to justify a killing of another person. Why Jews are evoking the Holly Name to justify their attacks on people of Palestine and why Islamist Allah 4 same its sickening.

  • 42. 0 0
    Bat YeOr interview
    • William Katz
    • 21.06.06
    • 17:17

    Thanks for publishing this in Ha'Aretz. I would have preferred, however, that instead of the "Gee Whiz -- Isn't she controversial!" tone of the interview -- that you give more coeverage of her absolutely critical and timely ideas. PLEASE BRING US MORE BAT YE'OR! Thanks very much, wk

  • 41. 0 0
    to Nidra Poller
    • Nannette
    • 21.06.06
    • 15:53

    Obviously the critic, and I use that term loosely, (as the person is obviously not well read), knows nothing about the situation in Europe, otherwise she'd produce facts, something she's unable to in this article. Bat Ye'Or, has been a highly respected researcher and writer for years, as you are Nidra. The latest survey of London schools showed that 55% were children of immigrants. Paris is far worse, as is Holland. Because of laws protecting Islam and Muslims, they're not open to criticism, although antisemitism is in vogue, and Christianity is allowed to be trashed. Maybe one day Ha'aretz will see past it's left wing agenda and start seeing the truth from the perspective of those who have experience. Eurabia isn't a concept, or a "right wing" philosophy to be debated. It's fact! Why does Ha'aretz see the truth as being "right wing"? 75% of Brits are fed up with the situation, does that make them all "right wing"?

  • 40. 0 0
    To #7
    • monostor
    • 20.06.06
    • 22:49

    "J'accuse" was written by EMILE ZOLA, if you don't mind.

  • 39. 0 0
    If she is honest, she should care for the Muslim victims too
    • Bitter Pill
    • 20.06.06
    • 22:32

    The Jews of the Muslim countries had their awful tragedies. Bat Ye'or's (Daughter of the Nile) family suffered the life of exile. It is still not the main problem of our times. The real many victims of the Cold War Arab dictators were their own people. Bat Ye'or could her raise her voice in the universal defense of the many Muslim, Christian and Jewish victims of those past and current tyrants.

  • 38. 0 0
    A European Failure
    • David
    • 20.06.06
    • 22:06

    Islamo-fascism and the global jihad movement is a major threat to world peace and stability, but I think we have to be smart about how to deal with this threat, and not make things worse by over-reacting. I don't think the answer is demonizing Muslim communities in Europe or exaggerating the threat they pose. In the United States, Muslims enjoy an above average standard of lving, above average educations levels, and very few have embraced radical, Islamic causes. In Europe, their standard of lving is far below average. Discrimination and isolation in Europe have a lot to with the radicalization of young Muslims on the continent. Those that turn to terrorism should be treated harshly, and I'm angry that Europeans appease their Muslims by attacking Israel or tolerating Muslim prejudice against Jews. But I also think most Muslims in Europe want a peaceful life and access to the same opportunities that other Europeans enjoy.

  • 37. 0 0
    MG 7
    • Launchpad
    • 20.06.06
    • 22:02

    ...penetrating insights on Arab-Islamic Imperialism and Genocidalism that has plagued humanity in the course of the past 14 centuries. Ha-ha. If Islamic civilizations were genocidal for 14 centuries, how the heck did any Sephardi Jews survive? Maybe it takes a genocidal mind to see "genocidalism" behind every bush and tree. Look to your own bigotry - and that of all the other posters on this list who are clapping hands for Bat Ye'or's "protocols."

  • 36. 0 0
    Was it not the same with Clinton..
    • BenHaroeh
    • 20.06.06
    • 21:32

    What she has to say about the exploitation of the Muslim world in taking advantage of the laissez faire attitude of the whites, could be appropriately compared to what the Clinton administrations have done in the USA. Though today, Bush is considered as too right wwing for some,the fact is that he inhereted a strategy that has allowed the like of Usama to dare and propagate their Jihadis philosophy.To his credit at least he was able to slow down somehow the expansion in some parts of the world . Europe has to try and remedy the situation so that the immigrants could find it attractive to integrate into the mainstream. THe questio is: Is it too late, now that the JIhadist infrastructure exist, and the support for getoisation among the Arab is atractive and rewarding?!

  • 35. 0 0
    How about reading Bat Ye’or’s books first?
    • Mladen Andrijasevic
    • 20.06.06
    • 20:52

    How about reading Bat Ye’or’s books first? At least you would have a clue what you are talking about.

  • 34. 0 0
    Don't need her books to know it's TRUE
    • fiona
    • 20.06.06
    • 20:31

    Europe has been on a suicide track since the beginning of 20th c. WWI was the first attempt, WWII a second, more successful attempt. During WWII Hitler's maniacal quest for Arian supremacy had only succeeded in actually decimating the European population, the very Arian race. Now with Europe's low bith rate, we are on our third attmpt at suicide. And it looks like we will succedd this time.

  • 33. 0 0
    #4
    • Jane
    • 20.06.06
    • 20:26

    We have awakened. That is why an increasing number of people agree with Bat Ye'or.

  • 32. 0 0
    Dhimmi
    • bobby
    • 20.06.06
    • 19:55

    I recommend Bat Ye'or's book, The Dhimmi, to those of you who believe that equal and peaceful coexistence within Arab Moslem countries is possible and to those of you who question her academic abilities. I do not have to recommend the book to the Christian communities, past and present, of Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, etc. They do not need to read it - they live and lived it.

  • 31. 0 0
    fascinating
    • sam
    • 20.06.06
    • 19:53

    So, your thesis is that 1 billion muslims have more influence in Europe than 13 million jews? Fascinating. If this trend continues, even the United States will be forced to treat the Arab world with some respect. What a horrifying thought. Israel, pack your bags. Your disproportionate hold on world opinion is coming to an end.

  • 30. 0 0
    THE EAD and PRODI
    • myron
    • 20.06.06
    • 19:44

    ....and the leader of Italy, PRODI, is among the principal architects of the EAD. The new Leftist/Communist ruling junta in Italy is now in the process of relaxing the restrictiions on Muslim immigration into Italy. Prodi and his socialist and communist friends are absolutely devoted to the idea of becoming a second France , or Frabia.In other words, they are intent on committing cultural and demographic suicide, just as Frabia has already done.

  • 29. 0 0
    Most Muslims are decent human beings
    • Bitter Pill
    • 20.06.06
    • 18:43

    Shakespeare could make a caricature out of the Jews in Shylock. Most Muslims, Muslim Immigrants to Europe, and the Palestinians are good human beings. I have met many Black September Palestinian refugees in Europe in 1971. They were great people. The Jews of the medieval times were tossed out ofGermany, Hungary, Austria so many times, because of the incompatibility with Christianity. Is Christianity a good doctrine? Not exactly. Is Judaism a good doctrine? Not exactly. Is Wahhabism a good doctrine? Not exactly. They are not worth of the hostility between open minded human beings. What is Bat Ye'or exactly saying? She sounds a little narrowly defined, and destructive. She is representing Pre-WWII voices from the trenches. Is she objecting the Saudi wahhabism?

  • 28. 0 0
    This should be FRONT PAGE news
    • Danny
    • 20.06.06
    • 18:33

  • 27. 0 0
    Bat Ye'or and Jean Marie LePen
    • Yaakov Sullivan
    • 20.06.06
    • 18:20

    Basically, they agree. As for Jews represented in French government, I am not aware of how many menbers of the Senate or National Assembly are Jews but France did have a Jewish minister of Health-Simone Weil and a Minister of Culture, Jack Lang. France has a Jewish population of approximately 600,000. The Muslims are 6,000,000. How many representatives or ministers do they have in French government? She seems to neglect the hundreds of thousands of Muslim citizens who are integrated into European life. Bat Ye'or seems to be saying that this is a lost battle, that there is nothing that can be done,that Europe can only react defensively and close ranks. She states explicitly that Europe is largely pro-Palestinian in their sentiments and political positions because of the controlling influence the Arabs have in universities. Apparently, she sees the israeli occupation as plahing no role in this phenomenon.

  • 26. 0 0
    Hahahaa (part II)
    • Roel
    • 20.06.06
    • 17:33

    Of course our enlightened thinker must add an opposition between Muslims and Jews. The analysis of Arabs taking over (Palestinians in the universities, give me a break) is obviously false, but it does naturally add to the traditional apocalyptic neo-con agenda in which we are supposed to read Muslim eradication of Jews as an omen of future Muslim eradication of "Western values" and ultimately Judeo-Christian people. I guess we can place her on the same shelve as another self-proclaimed intellectual, called Melanie Philips. I would love to see these people entering into a debate with the Chomsky's and the likes. The worst thing is that quite many people will probably buy this, as - unsurprisingly - this forum indicates.

  • 25. 0 0
    Hahahaa (part I)
    • Roel
    • 20.06.06
    • 17:32

    Self-taught intellectual? Reading the analysis voiced by the lady in this article, I would rather use to word self-proclaimed. I will not repeat Eli's and Zogmus' interesting comments. The fact alone that Bat Ye'or does not even enter in the common good of debate between intellectuals by hiding her name out of ridiculous "security reasons", may be seen as indicating a poor (intellectual) case. We are dealing here with another contribution towards the self-fulfilling prophecy of the clash of civilisations. "If there is not enough antagonism, we will create some". Claiming that Europe and or the EU or about to be taken over by "Arabs" and "Islam", because of pressure of terror and demographic pressure, is totally opposed to the trends which can be observed in most Western European societies and which are more of a witch hunt against anything coming ? culturally, demographically, or politically ? from the Southern or Eastern part of the Mediterranean. Despite the dialogue.

  • 24. 0 0
    Daniel, less than 5000
    • Jake
    • 20.06.06
    • 16:56

    Jews live in Arab countries.

  • 23. 0 0
    "self taught", "she says"
    • Hillel Stavis
    • 20.06.06
    • 16:33

    In spite of the triple swipe of "self taught","has never taught at any university" and "She refuses to reveal her real name for security reasons, she says" (the former tags her as a quack, the latter casts doubt on her need for physical protection via a nom de securite) Schwartz's article is remarkable for Haaretz, the "Pravda" of Israel. Having published numerous books through university presses and academic journals, Bat Y'eor's marginalization speaks more about the controversial myopia of the academy and the media than it does about any "controversy" surrounding her brilliant insights on the Islamization of Europe. File it under "A prophet scorned in her own land."

  • 22. 0 0
    #18, Eli. Hat off. You are right to pose questions before answers
    • zmogus
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:49

    You are more than correct in your doubts. The general problem of autodidact researchers, especially in the social sciences, is not the lack of factual or resource references but the drive to come to an all-explaining and nearly mono-causal narrative which in its turn leads to adequate selection of the factual material. The result is another conspiracy theory. The students in history are thought on it from the very first in the courses on history of history (historiography). Unfortunately, Bat Ye'or set out to face serious issues without having done that first year.

  • 21. 0 0
    Her argument
    • Viveka
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:42

    on demographics holds no water, first generation European Muslims don't tend to have more children than other Europeans. She also neglects the fact that some American companies benefited from the oil-for-food program as well, not to mention that Saddam was a good friend of both Americans and the Europeans in the 80's. She's posing 20 million people as a direct threat to the future of Europe, when we should invest on dialogue and co-operation. I wonder what is her alternative? Close all borders? Also, the argument "Terror is a way of pressuring Europe, which is displaying weakness, while the Arab states are interested in obtaining something from it" seems odd, on the face of the fact that most terror attacks have reacently happened in Arab countries. What are the Arab states obtaining from that?

  • 20. 0 0
    paranoia
    • Stephen
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:33

    this is obviously from a paranoid mind. clearly, europe is establishing relationships with the Arab world, and it should - cooperation has a better effect to affect human rights, etc. in the Arab world than beating them up. The paranoia enters, though, when one think that this implies necessarily an overthrow of Europe. The author is too old to know about our willingness to defend liberal values. This is clearly visible by the author's simplicisitic dichotomy of left-right. As any careful observer knows, in Europe (and alos the US and Israel), the confrontation is between conservative war-mongerers, such as the author, and true defenders of freedom. The big enemy of these latter is not the Arab world, but the conservatives in their own countries.

  • 19. 0 0
    "Europe is not interested in Israel's future at all."
    • Andreas
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:13

    I think to the same degree that we are interested in the fate of Tchukotka and Patagonia.

  • 18. 0 0
    Doesn't Ring True
    • Eli
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:12

    Sorry, her theory doesn't ring true. It seems to me that Europe's current hostility to Israel is more a result of anti-americanism, guilt and self-hatred over its colonial past and its mistaken assumption that weakness equals moral superiority. If you look more closely at European middle east policy you'll see that its more nuanced than most Israelis recognize. We have traditionally had very close trade ties with the E.U. and many European countries have provided Israel with political and military aid. Jihadist extremism is a big problem among some European immigrant communities and I don't think the Europeans will know how to deal with it but I don't think that there's any big European conspiracy at work there, rather it reflects social phenomena in the Islamic world.

  • 17. 0 0
    "The universities are controlled by the Palestinian"
    • Andreas
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:09

    Does this need more comments? Well, Switzerland is known for harbouring strange people.

  • 16. 0 0
    #7, MG. I guess you meant Zola?
    • zmogus
    • 20.06.06
    • 15:04

    "Her "J`Accuse" -- a la Victor Hugo -- should serve as a much-needed wake-up call for all those European segments that have lost their sense of direction and have fallen prey to Arab manipulations under an irresponsible and opportunistic European leadership." You mean "j'accuse" à la Zola? Likewise more "sense of direction" is to be desired in your estimations that "fall prey" to the all-encompassing historical narratives of self-made researchers who can't isolate their political agenda from academic research. To read you, it looks like in the complex internal rivalry and permanent power disballance of the freshly unified EU their only unifying element is being irresponsible and opportunistic. Is there any political group you can't call opportunistic (perhaps the only ones are those of religious fundamentalists)? It's the basis of western policy-making, besides the military means. Of course, looking from "Arab-and Europe-neutral" Israel one gets better perspective on Europe...

  • 15. 0 0
    why so many jews live in arab countries?
    • DANIEL
    • 20.06.06
    • 14:58

    AND WHY??????

  • 14. 0 0
    for deltas and noors... and the rest of us
    • Linda
    • 20.06.06
    • 14:28

    People see things from different points of view, and our the lenses we see through are mostly tinged with fear. I believe it is important to try to understand why others see us as they do, even if it's exasperating. Whether you agree with them or not, Bat Ye'or's books at least have the merit of providing references that can be checked. So by setting aside righteous indignation, it should be possible to evaluate the validity of her arguments. Or you could ignore her arguments, and just listen to the documents she cites. Hard as it is to listen to someone whose opinions you find offensive, the result might be interesting.

  • 13. 0 0
    Just another Jewish racist
    • Mohammed Tasif
    • 20.06.06
    • 14:09

    Just imagine if EU Arabs stood up and said something about unpropotional Jewish representation in almost all insitutions and Governments? Racism raises its ugly head once again in Europe, whom would have thought that Jews could become fascists?

  • 12. 0 0
    Haaretz, is this the best you can do?
    • Nidra Poller
    • 20.06.06
    • 13:45

    Why do you have to drag a dead cat in from the gutter to try, in vain, to refute the perceptive analysis of Europe's situation by a highly respected thinker, Bat Ye'or? I have never heard anyone from the extreme right refer to her work. And what if one of them did? Some pretty sleazy characters approved of this interview. Does that discredit Haaretz? No, what discredits this article is the fact that the author is not able to produce any doncrete evidence of knowledge of the European situation. Unable to refute Bat Ye'or in the sphere of reality, he slings a dead cat at her. This is not how honorable intellectuals debate a burning issue.

  • 11. 0 0
    Left alone
    • Edith
    • 20.06.06
    • 13:37

    Well, maybe this means the Jewish people feels, or part of the Jewish people feel or thinks Europeans abandon them. But what is support about? Does supporting and caring mean that you put up people against each other of does support mean fueling the anxiety?

  • 10. 0 0
    An accurate appraisal of the situation. 2
    • Nik
    • 20.06.06
    • 13:34

    ...and the final straw, LBC, a London talk radio programme, held a "reasons to hate the Jews" call in show where all and sundry were asked why they hated the Jews, what were their reasons and anyone calling to rebutt the accusations being bandied about was told that this was not the purpose of the programme and cut off. This culminated in the presenter telling a caller, a Jew and the director of a Jewish Studies centre as I recall, that his attempting to defend the Jews against these accusations was typical off the Jewish arrogance that makes them so hated that they think they can just call in to say what they want, even if irrelevant to the programme. My application for aliyah went in that day. Israel is the only place for Jews to be. Eurabia is not just a coined phrase for politicos and journalists, it is a fast approaching reality.

  • 9. 0 0
    An accurate appraisal of the situation. 1
    • Nik
    • 20.06.06
    • 13:29

    After thirty years of living in the UK I decided that the rise of Islamic power, the increasing levels of anti-semitism that occurred because of/alongside this and the terrible bloody weather were reason enough to make aliyah. The weather issue came in third place by a very large margin! Having attended one of the UK's very top universities which boasted an Arab funded Centre for Islamic and Middle Eastern Studies Department and attended several of their open lectures, listened to their rhetoric, seen their propaganda posters and then witnessed the NUS accept their call for the Jewish Society to be banned as a racist organisation I knew which way the wind was blowing in Europe, even among the (alleged) intellectual elite. Casually flung Anti-semitic comments are once more acceptable in after-dinner conversation, the mayor of London publically claims Israel must accept some responsibility for the July bombings and nothing is thought awry with this observation... TBC

  • 8. 0 0
    delta well-done
    • noor
    • 20.06.06
    • 13:19

    At last Bat Yeor found a platform for her racist speech and where? In Israel.....

  • 7. 0 0
    Bat Ye'or finally goes mainstream!
    • MG
    • 20.06.06
    • 12:45

    An extremely refreshing development for those of us that for over the past 20 years have been enlightened by her penetrating insights on Arab-Islamic Imperialism and Genocidalism that has plagued humanity in the course of the past 14 centuries. Her "J'Accuse" -- a la Victor Hugo -- should serve as a much-needed wake-up call for all those European segments that have lost their sense of direction and have fallen prey to Arab manipulations under an irresponsible and opportunistic European leadership.

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    The protocols
    • Naim S. Mahlab
    • 20.06.06
    • 12:33

    Oil has given the producer countries unprecedented clout which they are not loath to use to advance their agenda. Europe has fallen victim to its own greed and to the irrational dislike of anything American that seems to prervail there. As long as Europe felt threatened by Russia, they ran to the Americans for cover. Now that the Russian threat has all but disappeared, Europe is trying to find its own voice to compete with American power. European leaders do not seem to realize their vulnerability to the rising tide of Islamist power. I hope they will wake up before it is too late.

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    A wave of new scholarship supports Bat -Yeor
    • Shalom Freedman
    • 20.06.06
    • 12:20

    This article is presented as if 'Bat -Yeor'is a lone voice. But in fact a whole host of new scholars such as Robert Spenser, Bruce Bawer, and journalists ,Oriana Fallaci and Mark Steyn support her major claims. And there is a great weight of what might be called supporting corollary scholarship from most respected scholars, including Samuel Huntington and Bernard Lewis which supports the idea of an Islamic civilizational threat upon Western democracy.

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    protocols
    • delta
    • 20.06.06
    • 12:15

    well, well, very interesting. of course, no one semms to see the parallel between sying that 10 million america jews controll US policy (300 million) and 20 million muslims controlling the policy of 800 million europeans (with 25 different governments!!!). Of course, the first proposition is antisemitism, and the second is the "result of research"!!! and of course, the palestinians, without a government, autonomy, selfdewtermination, and all the attributes of a free nation, are able to control europe, but not the government of israel. That is also why israel has been able to hold on to the occupied territories for 40 years, despite security coucil resolutions which would have imposed on any other arab coutry total ruin, and you still tell us that "israel is soo alone, and soo helpless, and ooh soo very misunderstood"!!! don't you realize that you are deceiving no one else but your own self!!! Wenn will you finally wake up!!!

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    100% agree
    • Matze
    • 20.06.06
    • 12:04

    I completely agree with what Bat Ye'or says. You can experience it everyday in Europe these days. Even though most of the people strongly dislike Islam and everything it stands for, their leaders are still supporting the Arab nations, closing their eyes to grave violations of human rights. Too bad that the Shalomniks "Absolute Sweden" mentioned won't read the article. It's way too long, academic plus it doesn't have a headline that starts with "XX Palestinians killed"...

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    Bet Yeor
    • Joel Fishman
    • 20.06.06
    • 11:55

    This article is meanspirited. The fact that a person has not taught in an academic institution does not determine whether he or she is a scholar. What is necessary is for the documentation to check out. The reporter's preferences are all to clear, and his journalism is provincial and unprofessionsl. Joel, Jerusalem

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    The article should be at the front page of "Haaretz"
    • Absolute Sweden
    • 20.06.06
    • 11:09

    The truth,unpleasant to the "Peace Movement" counting on Europe shouldn't be hidden at the back pages