How much public influence does a pro-Palestinian Israeli have?
Left-wing activist Jonathan Pollak is sentenced to three months in jail for taking part in an illegal demonstration against the blockade of Gaza.
By Amira Hass Tags: Israel news GazaThe Tel Aviv Magistrate's Court on Monday sentenced left-wing activist Jonathan Pollak to three months' imprisonment for participating in an illegal gathering in January 2008.
Pollak, 28, is a resident of Tel Aviv and spokesman for the Popular Struggle Coordination Committee, in which several Palestinian popular committees against the occupation participate. The January 2008 demonstration by several dozen activists on bicycles was in protest against the blockade of Gaza.
Judge Itzhak Yitzhak said when reading the sentence: "I am not sentencing the accused on the basis of the ideology embodied in his deeds ... An examination of the matter ... must be focused on the question whether the accused committed an offense or not."
In reply, Pollak read from a written statement: "Since I am unable to accept that what I did was wrong ... I shall not agree to do community service as an alternative to imprisonment."
How were you arrested at that demonstration?
It was in the middle of our cycling route, on Bograshov Street in Tel Aviv. I was in the midst of the crowd. Two plainclothes policemen who know me and I know them approached me and took me off my bike. They said something to me like: "We told you if you raised your head, we would cut it off," and took me to a police van. The rest of the cyclists continued without any interference. No one else was arrested.
When you joined the cyclists, did you know that you were risking arrest?
I knew I was facing a suspended sentence (from a 2004 demonstration ). It's still difficult for me to see what was illegal, but I knew that the way things are in Israel, there was a chance that the suspension would be enacted.
The prosecutor who asked for a six-month sentence and a fine said that this was an illegal demonstration.
I am not a jurist but to the best of my knowledge, the police orders demand a permit for a demonstration in which more than 50 people participate. The prosecutor, who is a policewoman, is supposed to know that. We were about 40 people.
And had there been 2,000, would you have requested a permit?
I personally wouldn't have.
Why?
Because I don't believe that when you are demonstrating against a regime, the regime is the one that has to approve the demonstration.
Why do you need all this mess?
I don't know what other option there is in so extreme a situation, in which four million people are being kept under a military regime without democratic rights by a country that is interested in presenting a democratic image. In a situation where there is a blockade and collective punishment of 1.5 million people, can one hesitate at all whether to hold a very minimalist protest in Tel Aviv? It seems to me part of the duty of a human being, the least we can do. The question is not why I need all this mess but why so few people join in.
Why, indeed?
I have no reply to that question.
Since when have you been an activist?
Since childhood, at first with my parents. But it is possible to say that this activism has been the center of my life since I was 14 or 15. In various fields and not merely in the struggle against occupation: Animal rights, rights to an apartment for everyone - all these things are interconnected. It's not possible to develop a coherent political concept that does not see all the injustices that stem from the way in which society functions.
And you want to change society?
It sounds pretentious when you ask it that way. I want to live in a different place. Not geographically - I don't want to go somewhere else.
What will you miss most when you are in jail?
Freedom.
And to phrase it less bombastically?
To be able to do what I want to do. I don't think freedom is a bombastic word, it's the basis for everything. That's the reason we went out to demonstrate. The opposite of freedom is the blockade against Gaza, discrimination against non-Jews in Israel. That is the substance of jail.
Perhaps you'll have the chance to rest from your activities for a while in prison?
It doesn't seem to me that enforced rest, and in those conditions, is the best rest there is. But perhaps it is.
Do you have plans?
To read.
Have you not become a wholesale demonstrator? For example, in how many demonstrations do you participate on Fridays?
Only two - and I don't know what a wholesale demonstrator is. I believe that resistance is also part of the duty of every one of us. I don't like the way political activity is presented as something martyr-like. I think a great deal of lust is involved, and very strong emotions. And when you see the body of a colleague who has been killed alongside you, and you drag him away from the site, it merely grows stronger.
How many have been killed next to you?
Five. The first was in Nablus, many years ago, during a demonstration against the curfew. I didn't know him. And my friends - Mohammed Badwan from Bidu, in February 2004. A sniper on a roof hit his head with a live bullet during a demonstration against the fence. And Mohammed and Arafat Khawaja from Na'alin. Both of them were killed this week, two years ago, on the second day of the attack against Gaza. One got a bullet in his head and the other in his back. And there was Aqel Srur who was shot by a sniper in the heart, in June 2009.
Have you managed to influence anyone with your activities?
I don't know. I don't think we have to speak about every one of us personally. I believe that the activism of all of us has an effect on reality in all kinds of ways, on people and in other ways. And when I say us, it is first and foremost the Palestinians. It's important to remember that the popular resistance movement is firstly Palestinian and we, the Israelis, are only a marginal comment. All the same, I'm not trying to minimize our importance.
How long did it take you to write your speech to the court?
Ten minutes.
Did you get advice from anyone?
After I finished writing it, I sent it to a few people.
And did you change anything?
No. The reactions were that it might be worthwhile to soften it. But I didn't.
Are you afraid of prison?
Yes. I'm not yet sure of what, but I am.
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Left-wing activist Jonathan Pollak. |
| Photo by: Moti Kimche |
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All respect, Jonathan. All the way from Gaza..
See what else is going on in the world, Britain, America, China, Russia, (Israel)...etc... These Democratic countries above, are removing rights and liberties from the people they are meant to protect, look at America for example, "Land of the Free..." Yeah not for long, its recognised worldly as the number 3 Police State? (...Home of the Brave") to those who are standing up to protect liberty. Chemtrails over europe and America, and... Palestine?... hmmmmmmm To end, well done Sir, the world needs MORE of you not less!
Imagine if the above misguided gentleman was taking part in a demonstration against Hamas's legal blockade to stop Jewish Jihadists importing arms to attack Palestinians. What do you think his sentence would be if he was apprehended by Hamas? Three months in jail, optional, or would he be last seen live on the net pleading for his live whilst religious nut jobs were trying to saw off his head? The above may be a hero to the eternal students on the left, but with Jews like him who needs jihadists. Meantime, as long as Hamas is at war with Israel then the blockade is entirely legal.
was their killing ever investigated?
He said: “Although Israel marketed the Wall as a security barrier, logic suggests such a barrier would be as short and straight as possible. Instead, it snakes deep inside the West Bank, resulting in a route that is twice as long as the Green Line, the internationally recognized border. Israel chose the Wall’s path in order to dispossess Palestinians of the maximum land and water, to preserve as many Israeli settlements as possible, and to unilaterally determine a border. “In order to build the Wall Israel is uprooting tens of thousands of ancient olive trees that for many Palestinians are also the last resource to provide food for their children. The Palestinian aspiration for an independent state is also threatened by the Wall, as it isolates villages from their mother cities and divides the West Bank into disconnected cantons [bantusans/ghettos]. The Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem conservatively estimates that 500,000 Palestinians are negatively impacted by the Wall. “We believe that, as with Apartheid South Africa, Americans have a vital role to play in ending Israeli occupation - by divesting from companies that support Israeli occupation, boycotting Israeli products, coming to Palestine as witnesses, or standing with Palestinians in nonviolent resistance." Jonathan inspired me to stand up in Bilin 4 times- so far! http://wearewideawake.org/
Your efforts are greatly appreciated, from the bottom of the collective Palestinian heart. We can live in peace but first, we need more common Israelis to wake up and oppose your government policies!
As an israeli it brings me comfort and hope to know that yonatan polack and many others are here as an island of sanity in a sea of rasist madness that we have become. I hope the three months go by fast. I'm sure he is aware of how easy a sentence it is compared to what he would have received had he had been palestinian. Blessings.
a fascist state
Let the judenrat fester or give him to the 'peace loving' Hamas and let them show him how much they love him and his family
Jews of conscience who defy the anti-democratic, jingoistic, criminal elements which float through Israeli society pretending to be the keepers of Israel. A true Jewish soul.
I don't believe left-wing activists never come across reproachable things Palestinians do. If they do and let it be - they are complicit. In any case, when a story is too rosy, and by previous experience, left-wing media is not very objective, I suspect it. Although, so far from what we're being told, it also not impossible that this is a very nice guy who manages to keep its integrity, while walking to the other side. This would be a real success of personal skills from his part. I think the media should give us more info about previous activities he took part in.
For some more information, you can click on : http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article3775.shtml You can also read about his (short) life by googling on his biography.
Inspirational stuff
Actions by the government like this will only radicalize the people already upset and make more people in the middle of the road side with them. The Left may soon be sailing their own Altalena and it's the short-sighted government to blame.
The Israeli blockade is a collective punishment of the entire civilian population of Gaza - something forbidden by the Geneva Conventions and International Humanitarian Law.
A great article about an inspiring, courageous and heroic young man!
Or is it when little girls are daughters of settlers, all cruelty is allowed against them. His friends in demonstrations did trow stones on soldiers. Did you ask him if he did throw stones too? The picture the media shows us is of a very nice guy, supporting Hamas and Hizballa as exemplary human organizations. Either this is false, or the he is very naive. I don't think he is so naive. This guy is not 13, and he uses the judge sentence as a propaganda boost. I saw his interviews on tv., all calculated and supported by the interviewer, not one hard question (like "Do you support Hamas?" "Were you ever acting violently in demonstrations?" " Were you ever part of plans to physically harm Israelis?"). He is surrounded by media friends looking over his notes, or this one sided article. I think something is missing in this story. No good and nice person can support Hamas and Hizballa as exemplars of human societies. I don't buy that. Did the media ever interviewed the settlers girls, 13 year old, who were arrested? No, because they little Jewish girls.
"Did the media ever interviewed the" palestinian kids, 7" year old, who were arrested? No, because they little" Palestinian kids.
From the mood transpiring from your reply, it appears you also have guilt feelings about young Jewish girls being arrested. Maybe if we knew more about the other world (left vs. right), life would be easier.
Israel urgently need people like him, otherwise Liebermann and Cö. will destroy the civil society of Israel by their racisism.
I heart Jonathon Pollak.
I am very surprised that free speech or peaceful non violent demonstrations are dealt with in this way.Someone has to be a 'leader' , however in these cases the leader is not acting selfishly,but,(as he sees it) for the unbiased common good. Unfortunately, lots of 'leaders' who are'official' in politics ,are there for selfish agrandisement ,but often not for the good of a country or its people.
It's good to see Israelis who get public exposure while preaching peace and tolerance. He's a hero of our dark, settler-plagued time.
The modest but convicting statements and political stand of Jonathan Pollack are of the sort that justify maintaining a measure of optimism for the future of Israel and all of its citizens. Were this article to be read across the globe I expect that there would be enthusiastic responses not only for Jonathan and his cause, but also the much coveted recognition that the authentic spirit of Judaism lives on in Israel and is actually being lived out day by day by Jewish Israelis.
Larry King was famous for his softball interviews, which is why celebs and politicians loved being on his show. The never had to worry that King would ask them a tough or embaressing question. So when I read this interview it sounded more like Larry King than Amira Hess. If this were a paper for a BA in journalism, you would have gotten an F. But I figured I'd help you out. Here's a few questions that you could've asked Pollack but didn't: Does your activism include demonstrating against Palestinian terrorism? Do you oppose blowing up busses and restaurants in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, etc...? What territory do you consider to be occupied (just the WB, Gaza and Golan) or do you also consider Tel Aviv and Carmiel to be occupied? In your opinion, what is the prevelant Pal view on these issues? Do you really beleive that a complete Israeli withdrawal back to the pre-67 lines would bring peace? Why does Pal terrorism pre-date '67? Are you opposed to the sepreation fence itself or just the route of the fence (i.e. where it's not on the green line)? If you oppose the barrier and not just the route, what do you make of the fact that the fence has clearly reduced the number of terror attacks in Israel? There are many more, but I figure that'll give Amira a few ideas for next time.
This is the kind of compassionate Israeli that will eventually save the country from itself, showing the world not all Israelis are crazy rightists living in illegal settlements and preaching racism to their daughters. He's a
Jonathan lives what he believes is right, harming no one, disturbing in the best of ways. He is a source of hope and inspiration. A short article on his condemnation appears in French here : http://carol.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2010/12/28/manifestation-a-bicyclette-pour-gaza-liberte-d-expression-ba.html. I will shortly publish a translation of this article for which many many thanks.
I think instead of sending him to prison, the police should sent him to live in Gaza/Tul Karem. To learn about `freedom` under Hamas/PLO.
The end of the occupation and of illegal settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory are all that is needed for peace!
Perhaps this is why we do not hear many voices within Israel, against this unacceptable blockade. The Israeli government seems to be stifling any kind of protest or opposition against their unpopular policies. This is what perhaps the regimes in Iran and North Korea might do.
More like Judas
When you destroy a people's livelihood, and attempt to crush them beneath the boot, It will be hard to ever achieve peace & security.
All respect to Jonathan! By the way, I admire this response: "And had there been 2,000, would you have requested a permit? I personally wouldn't have. Why? Because I don't believe that when you are demonstrating against a regime, the regime is the one that has to approve the demonstration. "
The philosophy behind this fellow is anti.rule anti regime anti givernment and also "hefkerut" - no rule , no one who will tell him what to do. Freedom in his opinion means "hefkerut, to do whatever he wants to do. If he wants to muder tomorrow- no one can tell him otherwise. If he wants to plunder , steal , rape or whatever- he craves freedom to do whatever he wants. He seeks Freedom for Gaza terrorists who murdered Israelis. However , nothing is taken into consideration because his philosophy is based on Freedom , so no is to rule over the terrorists and not allow them to kill and murder. Freedom or "hefkerut"- that is his philosophy. No reasoning behind it. That is why chazal tells us to pray for government , fo if not one person will devour his neighbor. Now, he could be governed ny Tora ethics and principles , however that is certainly not this fellows' agenda. Therefore , he must abide by the Israeli law and rules, and he if he is against that rule- he should go to jail , because he is a threat to Israeli law and society.
If you think attending a peace rally makes you an anarchist you need to do a bit more reading.
"...he craves freedom to do whatever he wants". Wow! Is that a typical Israeli opinion about peaceful demonstrators? People like Jonathan Pollak move the world in the right direction, even if the steps are small. Israel's political elite does not.
We need to strugle on and on to achiev peace for our kids.Long live you and all peace lovers
.The judge should explains how the siege is legal and he,however,should praise Pollak because,at least for a common people the siege is obviously inhuman and the duty of people is not to obey to this kind of inhuman action and to protest against it..
Another day when I wake up questioning the rightist policies of our government. Is the government resorting to arrests and investigations such as those that took place in the US by the House on Un-American Activities in the 50's in order to fulfill its agenda? Very sad state of affairs.
and we are blind, egoistic, nationalistic, lazy etc etc. but in 20 years, when the arab population here is 1/3, then we'll SEE that it is our problem - but then its too late and the disaster starts
These ideological extremists (left or right) are a danger to peace. We should be resolute when dealing with them or they will push us to war (if Gaza can get any weapons without restrictions there will be huge war).
So, this activist wants Israel to be a better place or to be in better place?
Were it not for people like Jonathan Polack one could lose all hope. It is incredible that "the only democracy in the Middle East" puts people away because they exercise their democratic right to express a political opinion. Others are intimidated tby the security services as Haaretz reported a few days ago. Where is Israel heading?
MG the guy is 28, did not manage to study a lot, has no major experience in life, seems to have zero affinity to pubkuc life. All he has got is lots of adrenaline guts, and סברות כרס . He could hardly manage a fashion store or a supermarket. But wants to change society. What allures! And you guys listen to him and publish the outcome of his mouth. .What fools! Don't forget Karl Marx spent years and years at libraries before moves to change society to suit his wishes started.
I'm curious to know what income he has. Does he have a job? Can he leave this job to demonstrate so often? Do his colleagues approve him?
.. in the only ME Democracy. Wake -up people of Israel.
Interesting that in Israel freedom is characterised as 'bombastic' - what does this say about a State that pretends to be a modern democracy???
Jonathan Pollak, thank you very much.
A brave, apparently non violent guy, who I suspect is about to become an international cause celebre. If I was Netanyahu I'd get him out of jail immediately. But I'm not. Haaretz is fascinating because it shows Israel every single day digging a deeper hole for itself.
there is nothing worse then a self hating Jew. This is so sad to see someone of the chosen people not want to be part of the tribe. he should be ashamed
A righteous Jew is someone who strives to alleviate human suffering in the world, no matter the religion of the race.
Wow, how original. Any Israei or Jew who disagrees with the Israeli government is a self hating Jew. Just because he demonstrates against injustice does not remove him from the 'tribe'. There is nothing in Judaism that says we must hate Muslims or Gazans or Palestinians.
Wow, how original. Any Israei or Jew who disagrees with the Israeli government is a self hating Jew. Just because he demonstrates against injustice does not remove him from the 'tribe'. There is nothing in Judaism that says we must hate Muslims or Gazans or Palestinians.
Nothing worse than a self hating german during WWII
Man, State and religion are two separate things. You can't base your policies on something that doesn't exist (god), and even people who believe in god have the right to express their different opinion, may you like it or not. All this is obvious in the rest of the world; it is sad that it needs to be explained here in Israel.
Who remembers the "Hakhamim" who excommunicated Barukh Spinoza (whose memory is perpetuated even today)?
If the world is fair he should have a future in politics, as a policymaker, which is what he is now.
How is it that someone who wants his/her country to actually be a better place is villified?
...admirable.
on the one hand for all those brave, honest and sincere Israelis who aim at a better Israel, but on the other hand I might odly feel good, that Israel is unmasking its true face. And this will help its Pollaks and ilks do something to get their country back on track towards really being Light unto Nations.
What a joke, its sad what the zionist government come out with ... it really is.