Are subs, not the planes, the best way for Israel to counter Iran?
The air force can't destroy Iran's nuclear capability, a former navy commander warns, so Israel should instead rely on strategic deterrence
By Yossi MelmanMost experts interpreted former Mossad chief Meir Dagan's warnings against an Israeli attack on Iran as being aimed first and foremost at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak. But there are those who see things a bit differently.
One is the former commander of the Israel Navy, Read Admiral (ret. ) Avraham Botzer. In his view, if Netanyahu and Barak intend to attack in Iran (something this writer doubts ), and if they have a prepared plan for such an attack, it must surely be backed by the air force. "I'm afraid the air force has convinced the politicians that an attack on Iran is possible and will achieve results," Botzer said in an interview to Haaretz. "If I'm right, then we're dealing with a dangerous illusion."
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Botzer was head of the navy from 1968-1972; he also served on the Israel Defense Forces General Staff. Since retiring, he has held management positions and been active on the Council for Peace and Security, founded by the late Maj. Gen. Aharon Yariv.
"Generals have a tendency to fight the last wars, and that is exactly what happened to the air force," Botzer said. "In the [1967] Six-Day War, the air force destroyed the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian air forces within a couple of hours, gaining absolute control over and supremacy in the air, which allowed the ground forces to advance. Exhilarated by their successes, the air force's commanders believed it would succeed in exactly the same way in the next war, too, and they convinced the General Staff and the politicians of it. But this was an illusion.
"In the [1973] Yom Kippur War, we were sure the air force would destroy any Egyptian force that crossed the Suez Canal. Thus we were oblivious and did not make the necessary preparations for war on land. The result, as Ezer Weizman [a former air force commander] admitted, was that 'the missile beat the airplane.'"
Botzer noted that the air force and, indeed, the entire IDF knew as far back as 1970 that the Egyptians had moved surface-to-air missiles into the area of the Suez Canal, and that preparations must be made for a different kind of warfare in the future. Nevertheless, Israel continued to ignore the missile threat.
"The air force regained aerial supremacy in the Suez Canal area only after the Armored Corps had conquered the last of the missile bases in that theater and removed the threat," he recalled. "And this was done without airborne assistance."
Rebutting David Ivry
Botzer's attack on the air force comes in response to an essay published by Maj. Gen. (res. ) David Ivry, a former air force commander, in the journal "Israel Defense" (edited by journalist Amir Rapaport ). In his essay, Ivry urged Israel to strengthen the air force in order to ensure air supremacy in every possible theater - in the air, on land and at sea.
"Twice in the history of Israel's wars, they managed to delude us into thinking that if we just maintained a large aerial force, victory in battle would be assured," Botzer retorted. "The first time was in the Yom Kippur War, and the second was in the war in Lebanon in 2006, when we pinned our faith on the air force destroying Hezbollah, which is why we did not call up the reserves and did not introduce ground forces in time. The result: Residents of the Galilee only emerged from their shelters after a shameful agreement was reached through mediators. Why shameful? Because Hezbollah has consequently increased its power."
Botzer is loyal to the military service in which he spent his career, the navy, but his fidelity does not blind him: He recognizes the navy's limitations and weaknesses. Yet he sees no contradiction between recognition of these weaknesses and his support for submarines.
Despite the navy's limitations, Botzer is a great believer in the need to strengthen it and make it into Israel's strategic arm. This has been his position for the past two decades, together with other enthusiastic backers of acquiring additional submarines.
Today, Israel has three submarines, and two additional ones are under construction in German shipyards. According to foreign reports, the submarines are equipped to carry and launch eight missiles, which can also be armed with nuclear warheads.
Botzer believes Israel should have a fleet of eight or nine submarines. His estimation that the air force lacks any real ability to attack Iran in a way that would destroy its nuclear capability for many years merely reinforces this position. Lacking the option of attack, he said, Israel must rely on its "strategic deterrence."
This phrase, when spoken by an Israeli, and especially by a military man, is understood by the foreign press as code words for Israel's nuclear capability, given the global assumption that Israel has an arsenal of hundreds of nuclear bombs. "America's deterrence during the Cold War, and today as well, is based on submarines," he noted.
In any strategic nuclear doctrine, submarines play an important role in creating second-strike capability. Second-strike capability means that even if the enemy destroys your entire arsenal of nuclear weapons, you will still have the ability to strike back and destroy him. This can only be achieved by submarines, which are difficult to detect.
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No rear admiral will manage to change the Israel's idolization of the air force. Israel's navy never had a serious battle and remains, despite being very high-tech and efficient, as a secondary back-up rather than a primary assault force. However this is not to say that the subs would not be able to destroy iranian nuke facilities. The problem is what to do afterwards ? An Israeli attack to Iran would likely to start a war in the ME that is unlikely to finish in short time such as YK or 6 days war. Israel cannot sustain a long-term war, its human and technical resources are limited. So Bibi can bark as much as he can but that is all I guess.
and Iran wants the war.
and just note for yoursel that this regime have nukes that can reach at EU and US.
The real insane regime in the M.E. is The Islamic Regime of Mullahs in Iran, a Holy Dictatorship which is trying a setup a Caliphate in the Style of Arab Caliphs of the past with the only difference that it is based on Shia Version. Israel is a free and democratic country which has no other interest but self-defence. The Mullahs Regime would love to conqure other people, Iraq to free Najaf and Carbala and Suadia Arabia to control Mecca and Jerusalem to conqure the holy places of Christianity and Jewish Faiths to demonstrate their sick idea of Islamic Superemacy over all other cultures!
Palestinian freedom and Peace. That will undermine Iranian hardliners.
They want to be "martyrs", so strategic deterrence won't work.
No rear admiral will manage to change the Israel's idolization of the air force. Israel's navy never had a serious battle and remains, despite being very high-tech and efficient, as a secondary back-up rather than a primary assault force. However this is not to say that the subs would not be able to destroy iranian nuke facilities. The problem is what to do afterwards ? An Israeli attack to Iran would likely to start a war in the ME that is unlikely to finish in short time such as YK or 6 days war. Israel cannot sustain a long-term war, its human and technical resources are limited. So Bibi can bark as much as he can but that is all I guess.
A country the size of Israel, how do you pay for all this? How many hospitals & schools will you have to close?
What is happening in the mind of the US and EU. if over 2000 nuclear weapons to the oppositions of 2-3 North-Koreans bombs.How many nuks at sea?. Get your moral compass calibrated.
TRUMP one very expensive airplane or one very expensive submarine. Iran has hundreds of cheap, very accurate anti-aircraft missiles and hundreds of cheap, very accurate anti-ship missiles, so any attack will be very costly. AND as Iran demonstrated when they were attacked by Iraq, Iranians will not stop until they completely defeat the attacker.
YESSSSSS! shopping spree!!! We want TWENTY submarines (not only 9) and 200 more F-15Is [now only 30 or so :-(]. This submarine looks so cool. Also, we need 3 or 4 aircraft carriers. I'm serious. Nowadays it makes sense, JUST LIKE 20 ADDITIONAL SUBMARINES MAKE SENSE.
Yes, go shopping the most advanced submarines in the world. The stupid Germans will pay, as usually.
but submarine dominance can also be another illusion. israel has avoided dealing with the palestinian issue too long, and that is the real threat, lack of political courage and action. bibi is stonewalling in his right wing bunker.
The Ayotollah has shown many times his willingness to sacrifice his people to his cause. Israel, due to its small size has only its first strike capability and defensive weapons. Plus, the Iranian people would be thankful for any help to disable their enslaver.
What is happening in the minds of the Israeli military. If over 200 nuclear weapons to the oppositions NONE, cares them, they need some serious medication. Israel scares up a desire to have more submarines. What is that about? Need more to carry the Nukes you can't get on the current 3 with 2 to come? That makes 40 nukes at sea. Isn't that enough?
The coffee seller will say "coffee is the answer". If you ask someone who profits from the military, he will say "The military is the answer". If you ask someone who has common sense, that person will say "First make equitable peace with the Palestinians, then try the Iranians".
How exactly does one make peace with someone who says he will seek to destroy you irrespective of what you do or do not do or say or do not say? Interesting point for drawing room pundits, life or death for Israelis!
The coffee seller will say "coffee is the answer". If you ask someone who profits from the military, he will say "The military is the answer". If you ask someone who has common sense, that person will say "First make equitable peace with the Palestinians, then try the Iranians".
Iran lost hundreds of thousands of people in the war started by Iraq. They never gave up and they were never deterred. Israelis have this bad habit of overestimating their own capabilities while underestimating their enemy. This is why Israel lost the 2006 war to Hizboolllah. Is Israel seeking another humiliation?
Typical arab delusion.
...how most of Israeli war victories have been transformed in Arabic political victories. Israel need to find out how to gain victories in both fields.
The people are not as brainwashed; the revolutionary fervor has gone and at the time you speak about Iraq was the aggressor and the Iranians were defending their country. Totally different situation today.
Iran lost hundreds of thousands of people in the war started by Iraq. They never gave up and they were never deterred. Israelis have this bad habit of overestimating their own capabilities while underestimating their enemy. This is why Israel lost the 2006 war to Hizboolllah. Is Israel seeking another humiliation?