Woman killed, two wounded in Qassam rocket strike on Sderot
Livni: Israel must fight Hamas, cease-fire would be a deception; IDF calls up reserve medics to serve in Sderot.
By News Agencies and Mijal Grinberg, Avi Issacharoff Haaretz ServiceA 35-year-old woman was killed and two others wounded Monday evening when a Qassam rocket struck a car in the western Negev town of Sderot.
The woman, Shir-El Friedman, was standing next to the car at the time of the strike and was taken to Barzilai Hospital in Ashkelon. Hospital spokeswoman Lea Malul said she died on the way to the hospital.
The two wounded individuals, one of whom was moderately hurt and the other lightly injured, were also evacuated to Barzilai Hospital, along with twelve others who suffered from shock.
Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and the Popular Resistance Committees all claimed responsibility for the attack.
This is the first fatality in an unrelenting barrage of rockets fired at Sderot and the western Negev in recent days, which has caused widespread damage and left several other people wounded.
The last Israeli fatality in a Qassam rocket attack, 43-year-old Yaakov Yaakobov, was killed in the town in late November.
The attack came during a meeting in Sderot between Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Javier Solana, the European Union foreign policy chief. They were not harmed. (For more on Solana's visit, click here)
In a joint press conference with Solana, Livni rejected any possibility of a cease-fire with Hamas. "A cease-fire is a kind of deception," she said. "Even during periods of so-called quiet, Hamas takes advantage of the situation to smuggle arms."
During the press conference, Livni received a note from Sderot Mayor Eli Moyal, informing her of the woman's death.
"Qassams are the result of Hamas' strengthening, and this is a strategic problem that must be dealt with and we will keep fighting Hamas," she continued. "Fighting terror does not mean making deals with terrorist organizations, we must demonstrate a fundamental change in the field."
"No nation would tolerate the consistent rocketing of its citizens, and neither will Israel," David Baker, an official in the Prime Minister's Office, told Haaretz following the attack. "We will continue to take whatever steps are necessary to bring these attacks to an end and to prevent terror from being inflicted upon the residents of Sderot and the western Negev."
Saeb Erekat, an aide to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, said Abbas is making efforts to restore the cease-fire that greatly reduced Israel-Palestinian violence in Gaza from November until last week.
Erekat told The Associated Press that Abbas is calling on international mediators to press Israel to halt its strikes and on Hamas to stop the rocket salvos.
Following the attack, hundreds of Sderot residents gathered around the town hall, throwing stones and breaking its doors. The protesters chanted "Arcadi for prime minister," in reference to billionaire Arcadi Gaydamak, who on several occasions has provided hundreds of Sderot residents with hotel stays in Israeli cities in order to give them a break from the rocket fire.
Earlier, the protestors also tried to block Livni from leaving the town.
According to the IDF, a total of 15 rockets were fired at the area on Monday. Two struck early in the day, one of which slammed into and damaged a road. No injuries were reported. Another rocket hit the area Monday evening, causing no injuries, and a rocket hit a field near Sderot later in the day, causing a fire but no injuries.
Some 15 rockets hit the Sderot area on Sunday.
Meanwhile Monday, the Israel Defense Forces Home Front Command distributed instructions on what to do in the case of a rocket attack to the residents of Netivot, which is located roughly 15 kilometers from the Gaza Strip and is in range of improved Qassams as well as Katyusha rockets.
Roughly one year ago rockets hit slightly to the west of the town, and the IDF is preparing for the possibility that further escalation in the Gaza Strip will bring rocket fire on Netivot and Ashkelon as well.
The IDF on Monday also called up 35 reserve medics on emergency orders to serve in Sderot, Ashkelon, and other parts of the western Negev, Army Radio reported.
The escalation in the Gaza Strip has spurred concern in the IDF that Hamas will again attempt to kidnap Israeli troops, Army Radio reported Monday.
Last June, Hamas and other armed groups attacked an IDF post on Israeli soil bordering Gaza, killing two soldiers and wounding four, one of whom, Corporal Gilad Shalit, was taken captive.
"Israeli forces in the area of the Gaza Strip have been instructed to raise their alertness level for fear that terror organizations may attempt to carry out kidnappings," the radio reported.
It said the concerns were increased after overnight Israeli air strikes, one of which hit the house of Hamas parliamentarian Khalil al-Haya in Gaza. The lawmaker was slightly injured in the attack, but eight others including seven members of his family were killed, and 13 people were wounded.
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Security forces inspecting the damage to a car following a Qassam rocket strike in which a woman was killed and two others wounded on Monday. (Roni Schizer / Jini) |
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give hamas better rockets then these home made kasams then they can hit your idf targets its the best solution
I'd love to believe this fairytale. The moment I give them everything they need, all will be quiet? Sigh. If only that was what it took. These people don't care what you do, what you give them, how nice you try to be. This war is about destroying Israel, pushing it into the sea, and nothing more. They themselves don't even bother hiding their motives- "ivtach al yahud"- death to the Jews. And that's not fanatic mullahs preaching to crazed mobs, that's political leaders who periodically reassure the world that they want peace, yes, peace.
Clickfan, I suspect that if your neighbors fron 10 miles away launched rockets at or near your house for 6 years, you oopinion might change a bit. You might even feel as though something should be done about it. And at some point, if you lost a car or a house or a family member, it might not even bother you if force was used to stop the people that were sending the rockets your direction.
by the tragic MURDER of the woman in Sderot. What does one country do when another attacks it? Does it sit quietly and hope they go away? No. The best defense is a strong offense. Go clear a 5 mile wide strip at the border and keep it sterile. If the rockets keep coming, make it 10 miles. This murder deserves to be avenged. If Hamas is so eager to take credit for this, and Hamas is the elected governemnt, then target the entire government for elimination. Israel's cowardly reaction only strengthens Hamas. It's about time Israel was more concerned about its own citizens than the wishes of the USA and the EU for 'restraint.' If the Sderot woman was Bush's wife or daughter, I'm sure Gaza city would be a smoldering heap of ashes by now. My condolences to the woman's family. She is a hero of Israel- as are all residents of Sderot. G-d Bless them.
Unlike Egypt, which lost EVERY war, Israel had a problem in Lebanon and she's learned a lesson from it. Hamas & Fatah are in a box, which can be reached by either artillery or missiles that can be fired with extreme accuracy. Israel didn't have an adequate espionage system in Lebanon, she has an excellent one in Gaza & West Bank. Arabs know how to play the game, th at's why they're busy killing each other in Gaza & Lebanon. Meanwhile, your leader has enough problems to contend with in the Moslem Brotherhood.
What's the matter with the Israeli government? It's time to get serious about these Goddamned rockets and to stop pussyfooting around about it. Why is Israel still providing electricity to power the Qassam factories? Turn off the juice now. Why is Israel still providing gasoline to fuel the rocketmobiles? Stop all petrol shipments now. Why hasn't Israel acquired a viable anti-rocket system yet? Get one now. Give the Gazan civilian population 48 hours notice to clear out of the northern third of the Gaza Strip (including Gaza City) to the southern two-thirds of it and then systematically flatten the place so that no stone stands upon another and don't stop until PM Haniyeh crawls on his hands and knees and kisses Olmert's foot. PM Haniyeh made Hamas' position crystal clear: "Victory or martyrdom" with nothing in between. Well, victory is impossible so martyrdom is what it will have to be.
I've seen a few things. Like the first missle test of North Korea. Then the situation changed but usually something like that can't take place. But all the news people must germminate because they always get on the wrong side and sell out the person who is doing something that they disapprove of for some reason. 360 got on my nerves sitting in Palastine like they do that much for people. They always want something for nothing and you're force to overlook all of you life. But for some reason they are righter than right when violence begats more violence. They are emotionally ill and lately they should be paranoid because we do have bunch of bad boys.
Israel won Gaza in a war that it did not start. Isral offered Gaza back for peace. Israel eventually signed peace with Egypt, who didn't wwant that little hellhole back. What is your problem?
You will never be able to stop Hamas. Get your captured solder first and then try to stop Qassam rocket. It is not 1967 anymore. Arabs know how to play the game now and you are losing in this game.
Pali's as usual, are abusing the hospitality of another host country. Lebanese army has finally grown a set of balls and is firing on Palestinian's they've hosted for the past 60 years. It's no wonder that the Lebanese government has refused to integrate the Palestinian's into the economy and afford them decent jobs. Lebanese could smell a stab in the back in the offing. Pali's causing trouble in the North, in the same manner they did when they were in the south. It's no wonder that NO country trust the Pali's or wishes to host them. KIng Hussein of Jordan, killed over 10,000 when they attempted to overthrow him. they're happy no place, nowhere. In Gaza they're shooting at each other and Israel. Poor souls, it's never their fault. What a way to go.
As soon as you come from Germany and have a German opinion about Jews you are mr. Holocaust? Not at all. You are a very unoriginal Jew-hater and a very unoriginal German. Or in you case Austria, the only country who hasn't even attempted to deal with it's past, who cheered the lost Austrian son from Hell when he rolled over you borders with his tanks and soldiers, who in the 1986 voted a Nazi War Criminal for president. Your opinion is not yours, nor is it really an opinion. It is a deep rooted mental illness and a very old an unoriginal Austrian traditional perception of Jews. So shut it.
Your government? BBC has NEVER been balanced qhen it comes to Israel. " am certainly not upset with Israel and support my government`s stance when it comes to Sedorot. I just can`t understand why Israelis are attacking the BBC and their balanced reporting of that particular affair."
Those Sderot chicks are nothing compared to Iranian TV's show, "Burkhas Gone Wild". I caught it once and they even flashed their elbows.
Anyone who condones the use of cluster is a disgrace to their race. According to Amnesty International "the cluster bombs used in the 34-day conflict between Israel and Hizbullah claimed the lives of some 1,000 civilians in Lebanon – about one third of them children. Now approximately ONE MILLION unexploded cluster bombs fired by Israeli forces litter the villages of South Lebanon and are killing or injuring civilians every day." Ancient Hebrews were not savages. All too many present Hebrew-Wannabes are.
dumb, or are you really dumb? What palis want is to murder - preferably jews, but if they're not handy other muslims will do. Then again, nothing new in that. Just look at any report of mass murder anywhere in the world, and islam is behind it. there will be no peace because your people thirst for blood.
the palestians are getting more and more of that they want. They got Gaza and are they happy. they fight between themselves they fire rockets (and make no mistake the are rockets designed to only kill). Believe you me Israelies dont want to fight, they dont want to have to retaliate. They are however forced to. If the Palestian's just stopped the fighting what do you think would happen? If the Israelies stopped fighting what do you think would happen? It's been said before and it must be said again...The Palestians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity
Say, it wasn't Israel's. She should have never been there and therefore no thanks required when she finally unarsed it. Do you know the difference between mine and thine? It appears many zionists do not.
Stop the rockets the same way that was done sucessfully in Lebanon. Evacuate the Gazans with leaflets and then destroy their homes. Send a lot of them over the border into Eqypt. They are not fit to be neighbors. Most of the world are cheering for Hamas, so why not send them a message too.
Gaza was occupied, the Pals asked to end occupation, Israel did, then the pals start firing rockets into Israel. So it is not to end the occupation but end of Israel what the Pals are after. Emad-UK, you are either biased or just simly you hate Israel for the sake of hating.
and everybody gets loose from their chain. Say, wasn't it recently that I saw that the IAF was shelling cars & houses, civilians be damned. As unfortunate as this woman's death is, innocent civilian Pals are killed each and every time the IAF decides they are gonna administer the Israeli brand of democracy with gun ships. I am sure Pals cry to at this madness. What do the zionists say, oh well, collective punishment for the Pals is aokay cause they elected Hamas. Well, Israelis elected their gov't too with its brutalistic policies. Why the deviance from Zionist support of collective punishment for others and not for themselves. All this killing and for what? In fact, a thread today says IAF/IDF killed some of their folks. Now one of your folks. Great life over there. Sad really.
Who the hell do you think you are? - obviously one of those unmentionables - believe me you still owe us a hellova lot more than you can pay in a couple of centuries - big time. So keep your asinine comments to yourself.
My naive one. Regards.
Who said I am upset with Israel I am certainly not upset with Israel and support my government's stance when it comes to Sedorot. I just can't understand why Israelis are attacking the BBC and their balanced reporting of that particular affair. Besides I have just acquired a 42" television to watch the fun and games.
I remember an electricity in the air last July, right after Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers on the northern border. You could hear the jet engines overhead and the government started making announcements about creating an entirely new strategic reality in Lebanon. Now Livni is back on the airwaves, talking about ceasefires as being a wasted effort, and the need to create a new strategic reality in Gaza. Is it possible? Can Israel rush off to war again, without knowing if victory is obtainable? Hamas is not Hezbollah, but is there really anyway to create a new strategic reality in Gaza, short of reoccupation? But clearly isolated airstrikes will not be effective, either. Eventually things will settle into a ceasefire, no matter what Livni says, and we'll start again right back where we started... I never thought I'd say this, but I think Avigdor Leiberman is right...either Hamas will fall, or the government will. Thing is, we know Hamas isn't going anywhere.
There is nothing great about it.
Ah. Such sensitivity./cluster-sensitivity. Use your BRAIN: how about the clusters in their missiles, bomb belts !! remember, the BRAIN is a cluster of cells, ditto one's behind: they are NOT designated for same use.
Hamas is calling for martyrdom.They do not sound quite as tickled as you about the IDF's lack of abilities. So the Palestinians only want to live peacefully in their own state in the West bank and Gaza is that right? Nothing to do with flooding Israel with 6 million Arabs etc etc ?
Great!
is a sad and tragic thing, human life deserves more dignity. note I said human life, Arab, Jewish, german, Italian.....no mattre......humanity must prevail. THAT must be the lesson in this most unholy of wars. Both sides trying to gte 'their' brand of religon in, Israel ignoring all int'l law and land grabbing in the name of G-d as fats as hse can, people, women, children, babies, fetuses....DEAD! When will you all realize MORE dead will not make this craziness stop. You can kill a terrorist, you cannot murder radical ideologies! Back and frther, revenge, retaliation, on and on ad nauseum. When will there be enough death? When all Pals are killed? No, that is not the answer just as hamas wanting to kill all Jews is NOT the answer! senseless loss of life...for what? Your holy land? Their holy land? There isn't a damn thing holy about the place! There may be many mosques and many temples, but there are far more dark and dangerous hearts. Bitterness and hatred and revenge.enough!
Hey Emad...Israel has already given Gaza back to the Palestinians. The Palestinians have not used the land to there benefit by builing schools, roads, hospitals, etc. All theyve used the land for is to fire rockets into Israel. Why should Israel give anyting to the Palestinians again.
it didn't work. Israel got out of Gaza and Kassams rained down. AND your guys are still blasting away at each other. This is fifth "Truce", wanna bet it won't last more than a week? More Kassams, additional doses of retribution, you can bank on it.
She is cute, maybe she is talking to Dave.
When Israel used U.S.A. supplied cluster bombs, few Israelis deplored their government's action. Now the shoe is on the other foot. As former Mayor of New York has said many times, "it's all about whose Ox is getting gored". Neither side in this conflict has leaders with the moral fortitude to attempt constructive diplomacy. Any idiot can beat on his or her chest, so long as they have the arsenal and other parent's children to fight their wars. It's the leaders who are the real cowards.
Time our goverment do the right thing....and let the BBC deal with hostage in gaza, from gaza not from Tel Aviv... Ass kissers. never learned....they get burned always Fools
it's so typical...as soon as you have your own opinion and as soon as you are from Germany,you are mr.holocaust...I lol'd... Who do you think is paying for the state of Israel? It's not just the US...think about it and be quiet...
I'll take you at your word. If you're so upset with Israel, DON'T WRITE HERE. What's sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander.
and they are cold towards Palestinians and arab.
"We gave up Gaza, when will you give up terrorism?" One can always argue that the occupation of Gaza was illegal but that was so two years ago! Get over it and end the terrorism; if you focused on the welfare of your people perhaps you'd have a chance in the international community but so long as you hate and attack Israel your chances of self-determination are next to nill and you and your children will die in poverty and violence. The land wasn't given to you, it was loaned to you by your children. In other words the world you mould now will be the world your children will have to live in. Are you all that satisfied with the current Gaza? I should hope not because humanity CAN DO better!
They were medics (Hovesh) being called up to assist with casualties in Sderot.
Lisa ... my friend ... you are an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lissen you local natives. We are coming back to look after you natives. Now shut up and make me a cup of tea
You hit the hammer on the head #77 - but you ask the wrong question? You need to ask the same question from Hammas. Palestinians could easily dedicate themselves to developing a booming peaceful life within the territories they have. Taking back from the Jews what was their ancestral home is impossible. They know this, but they rather kill Israelis and sacrifice their own children for what - a few inches of land as you say and a very misguided hateful sense of justice - will you explain that to me?
but you will evacuate WB, Gaza and Israel and i think it is a fair deal.
Your obviously missing my point. Obviously leaving gaza was a grave mistake and the people who were expelled should be returned, and the arabs kicked out. My point is of the self hating left wing jews or atheists whatever describes them better but they are Israels worst enemies from within. They are silent when jews are killed.
1. Topple the Hamas government and arrest or kill its leaders. They are no different than bin Ladedn. They head a terrorist organization. 2. Enter the Gaza strip and create a buffer zone. 3. Fight the war with Hamas and Islamic Jihad decisively and to win -- not the half-baked and indecisive way the Hezbullah war was fought. 4. Initiate a massive air bombing campaign to destroy all known Hamas or Islamic Jihad homes, meeting places, metal factories, tunnels. 5. Tell the Plaestinians that if the Qassams keep coming the Gaza strip will be levelled to a pile of mud and mean it. 6. Organize a decent public relations campaign to explain to the world what Israel is doing and why. 7. Expel biased media. They are propagandists and need not be tolerated.
Biased reporting of alledged biased reporting does not make an argument merely muddy the waters. What the people condemning the BBC is trying to do is weaken the effect of the BBC's reporting of the Palestinian, Israeli conflict, so they can portray a more one sided Israel centric point of view. As I say if you don't like it don't watch it. I assume you watched Channel 4 tonight? I would be more worried about that actually.
Hasn't there been enough rockets from Gaza to know that they are not going to stop? All the talk from Olmert's government is not going to stop one Qassam. It's time to make a buffer zone. IDF make it ten miles into Gaza. Make that a no man's land. Wipe it clean. Demolish everything, bulldoze it clear for ten miles. If they get rockets that can travel farther, then make your buffer zone wider. And while your at it with the bulldozers, make that moat between Egypt and Gaza.
You want "end"? Don't worry. Pretty soon BiBi will do the "ending"
I for one am not curious at all. I do not wish to live in an Islamic state. I do not wish for my children to worship Allah and bow down to Mecca. I do not wish to abandon all that I believe in for the sake of appeasing aggression and murder and terror. So "Mr Just Curious" you need not be curious any longer. Certain things in this life, believe it or not are worth fighting for.
A few basics, very, very basic: 1) Hamas is not Pro Equal rights. Hamas is Pro Burkahs. Pro No-Somen-in-public, Pro Honour killings. 2) Hamas is not progressive. They are representatives of the most hardcore aggressively reactionary movement in the world right now: Radical Islamism. 3) The "abominable occupation" in the eyes of Hamas is every spot of land owned by Jews in places that at any time in history was ruled by muslims. 4) Jimmy Carter was always the foremost proof that truly anyone can become the president of the USA. Nelson Mandela is a saint but his genious had to do with South Africa, his competence about the ME was zilsh. 5) In able to disagree properly with people you actually need to have a single clue. Take my word for it.
As your fellow German, I know that you are a spiteful hater of Jews and that israel is the way to do it. Israel has a right to defend itself something people like you don't want to tolerate. Better to be an anti israel propagandist than know the truth.Do you think that being so "concerned" with human rights it makes us cleaner?
Israel should reply to every qassam with one or two cheap rockets, until Gaza is destroyed to the ground and its citizens fled to egypt.
Chris: Here is but one of many examples of anti-Israel bias on the part of the BBC: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=3&x_outlet=12&x_article=1283
It's a simple formula! Otherwise evacuate Askhelon!
It is really sickening to see people posting their joy at the death of civilians. Both Hamas and the IDF are criminals showing little disregard for civilian human life. Enough!
I send my condolences to the relatives of the woman who was killed in Sderot by a rocket from Gaza this evening. And I sincerely hope that Israel straights her back and will take action so long that no rocket cannot be fired any more. Shalom from Holland
Stop blurring the lines by calling everything you do not like "left". It is very simple: right meens you refuse to see that Hashem makes people rich so that they will be able to share. Left means the opposite. Im orthodox, working class socialist and proud of it. But: The redrawal from Aza was a grave mistake. As long as Hamas keeps shooting they should be hunted down ruthlessly. What European media thinks about "the situation" is a non-issue. And if the Arab leadership was really looking for a two-state solution (and not the destruction of Israel) they would have had it long since. This is not a question of left or right, it is a question of logic. My heart goes out to the family. AIC
Stop blurring the lines by calling everything you do not like "left". It is very simple: right meens you refuse to see that Hashem makes people rich so that they will be able to share. Left means the opposite. Im orthodox, working class socialist and proud of it. But: The redrawal from Aza was a grave mistake. As long as Hamas keeps shooting they should be hunted down ruthlessly. What European media thinks about "the situation" is a non-issue. And if the Arab leadership was really looking for a two-state solution (and not the destruction of Israel) they would have had it long since. This is not a question of left or right, it is a question of logic. My heart goes out to the family. AIC
Those Sderot chicks pictured on the Haaretz main page are hot! Long live Sderot!! Compare that to the hooded dogs on the Pal side - I know who whose side I'm on.
lisa, lisa.... hamas and respect for women.... your vision of reality is somewhat blurred. go talk to palestinian women who are not religious and see how hamas treats them
Since Israel doesn't take journalists hostage.
Hamas is to be respected (I didn't say LOVED). Sharon turned a blind eye to the ongoing threat, Olmert hasn't a CLUE, the electorate wrings their hands & is too cowardly & sluggish to revolt. Israel lacks the quality leadership of Hamas. Eveery people has the government it deserve.
SYSTEMF, what a excelent idea!!! All Israelis should cooperate and finance the purchase of thousands of qassans... And just send them to Gaza... International press could not condemn it, since it would not be a government action. Human Rights organizations would have to admit that there is a parity. Israel could have more Qassans than pals.. it would be a victory....
1. Why all this talk about the BBC. As far as I am concerned the BBC journalists union was pushing for a boycott of Israel. In that matter then they should leave on their own accord. Either you boycott or you don't. LEAVE 2. What is more important is the death of this woman. The qassams are primitive at best but eventually the odds are against the citizens. Shoot enough across the border and people are going to get killed. Just follow the story. You had 3 militias just jumping over themselves to claim responsibility for a kill. The candies will be flowing. This woman is not a martyr for the cause. She is just a dead Israeli woman. A mother , a daughter , a wife ??? I was 100% for the departure from Gaza. I hoped it would lead to more movement on both sides but the Palestinians are continuinally fed nothing but bull and promises from their leaders. Apartheid and occupation are the words of the spin doctors reported with glee by the BBC.
during the last election olmert promised us DISENGAGEMENT
I wish the terrorists don?t get away with the murder. I hope Israel to do its best to stop the quassam launchings.
History shows us that when Israel attacks Hamas there is usually as much or more damage done to civilians lives and property as there is Hamas lives and property. When Israel cuts off utilities to Gaza and places an embargo on all things entering Gaza, they once again cause more suffering to civilians than to Hamas. The result of all this misdirected emnity is that Hamas finds it easy to fill its ranks. When you see a headline announcing that 4 Hamas fighters were killed by a bomb (along with 4 civilians), you can be sure that if it left vacancies in the Hamas organization, they were filled that same day. Israel always maintains the lead in number of deaths inflicted, but never actually makes any progress. In fact there is not even a goal to progess toward. Israels strategy seems to be a daily dose of (1) count attacks upon Israel and causalties sustained, and (2) attack in the general direction of the attackers and inflict more casualties then they did. Repeat daily for 20 years
My condolences to the family of the victim. . My thoughts and prayers go out to them. May G-d bless you.
Hamas is an insuperable ideology built on mutual respect for women and all factions in its society. It only projects force against those who wish to harm its people and it has a right to do so. As all people have a right to self defense. The only way to secure Israel is for Israel to end the abominable (Jimmy Carter and Nelson Mandela's words) occupation.
With all due respect to the apparently peaceful teachings of the Torah and while trying to be of a higher standard than the Hamas who's Koran apparently allows for more violent teachings and ellimination of all the Infidels, look where it gets us. I'm not saying that all the Palestinians are behaving like non-human beings but by the time you have finished sorting them out, you'll be long dead. Remember the famous saying of general Patton " I don't want YOU to die for YOUR country, I want the OTHER S.O.B. to die for HIS country ". The moment the IDF will accept this logo and starts acting accordingly, you don't have to turn the other cheek anymore and may be able to avoid a second holocaust. Too much restraint in this particular case rapidly will get us into deep water. Unfortunately after the Lebanon 2006 fiasco, the PM and the DM are now in a Catch-22 situation, DAMN IF THEY DO, DAMN IF THEY DON'T and seem to be too afraid to act. We now need leaders with some guts and not golf balls.
The BBC and the situation in the UK demonstrates how well the media (and the bias of the media senior employees) controls public opinion. Some well-wishing (that is, wishing well for the palestinians) senior BBC employee (head of new department? CEO?) that the Brits have to know about Israel depradations. Then they bring only information that supports their opinions. Another option is that a network broadcasts what it thinks the viewers want to see. Just try to imagine Al-Jazeera broadcasts something supportive of Israel.
Israeli frustration is understandable. But we cannot be the "light among nations" if we act like wild animals - like our enemies. We Jews have to be committed to the preservation of life not its extermination. Are we not the people who have suffered the most from violence. The solution is simple. A security corridor must be secured in Gaza. If the Quassam's reach 15 km then reoccupy 15km. If they reach 20km reoccupy another 5km. This is the "Land for Quassams" deal. The more they fire the more land they lose. If necessary Israel will have to reoccupy the entire Gaza, because with power comes responsibility!
Funny, a friend and I were kicking around what would actually solve this problem. What we came up with? Ninja commandos, from the Israeli side. Gather the right intel, send 'em in, and Hamas operatives just die in mass numbers overnight. More effective (and cheaper) than airstrikes, by far - and if you rinse and repeat that properly, you'd run out of terrorists in a hurry. Once word got around that anyone planning rocket attacks got dead the next day - BEFORE managing to send off that rocket - people would get the message. And there wouldn't be the messy collateral damage.
Sderot citizens can thank Prime Minister Olmert & Co. for their Qassam problems. After all it is not Hamas' duty to protect Israeli citizens from harm. That duty, responsibility, G-d assigned task was presented to Olmert & Co. who have repeatedly declined to fulfill their duties to G-d and Israel. Israeli's are simply getting what they paid for when they voted these stooges into office. Now that all their pockets are lined with ill-gotten gain, they'll retire outside of Israel and sip Champagne on a peaceful beach in another country much safer than the one they were charged with protecting.
He had to see it by himself, in any case he does not trust the BBC.... (Fresh from Ha-aretz) British Ambassador to Israel Tom Phillips visited Sderot on Monday to witness firsthand the damage caused by the rockets. "It is terrible that civilian life in southern Israel is under daily fire," he said. "The Palestinians must stop these attacks." "Israel is in a difficult position, and has the right to defend itself from such attacks against its civilians," continued Phillips. "But any response should be in accordance with international law, and should seek to avoid civilian casualties." "This was the third time I have visited Sderot since my arrival in Israel last August, and I wanted to understand the impact of these latest Qassam attacks and personally to express the sympathy of my government to the people of Sderot for the suffering they are undergoing," he said.
The place's name is NAJD not "Sderot". Where is this business of "Sderiot" coming from ?
We've all been in suspense - haven't we? When will all the pressure of the reprisals and the sanctions and the deprivations build to the point that we can return to the give and take of reciprochal killings. It is so, so today's version of the "Peace Process"! This poor woman in Sderot - the Hamas parlimentarian's seven family members - Corporal Shalit's so-close then crumbled release negotiations.......Would it really have been so very difficult to recognize Hamas and begin diplomatic relations with Abbas AND Haniyeh? Is having every single square inch of the land to oneself so much more satisfying than peace? Why is passing the ownership of the land to future generations so much more important than passing on a life worth living? Someone please explain how this is better?
By agreeing foolishly to leave the Philadelphi Road, the Israeli FM made the same mistake she made in the North by allowing the UNIFIL hoax. Many more Israeli citizens will pay with their life for the stupidity and the arrogance of this government. Livni together with Olmert and Peretz made out of Gaza a terror paradise. But this is not all. With the applause of Haaretz, Livni has promised to expand her runaway strategy, by leaving Judea and Samaria and by dividing Jerusalem. How long can the people of Israel endure a government that has been officially recognised as incompetent? How many Israelis must die before this gang will be thrown out of office? For how long will Labor support this situation? When will Haaretz realize that this is the worst government in history?
Whatever happened to the good old days when people like Jehoshua ben Nun went in and slaughtered all Israel's enemies. Not the "politically correct" way to solve the problem, but very effective.
The Palestinians make "normal" life impossible in Israel in the same proportion as Israel makes "normal" life impossible in occupied Palestine. Enjoy your mutual hell, Israelis and Palestinians.
it's difficult to manufacture Qassams or explosives. Without fuel it's difficult to transport weapons, missiles and "militants". I'm sure our government knows this. "Economic measures" have been mentioned, but nothing is being done. What a bunc of eunuchs!
ottomatik, isn't that a rather ignorant, sweeping statment to make?
But let their reporters and pgotographers live there too, instead of returning at the end of the day to their comfy hotels in Israel.
God be with her.
What you mean is that the BBC does not totally represent your views. As a consequence you personally find it biased. When millions of other Brits in time of crisis turn to the BBC for information. I have watched Sky news for a full ten minutes and Israel has not been mentioned once. So I guess Sky must be biased as well. I'll say again if you don't like it don't watch it.
But how will the BBC cover it rightfully was expelled from Israel? It will blame Israel, and punish it even further as "undemocratic" or whatever bs it can come up with. ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN SATELLITE GLOBAL TV NETWORK, AND NOW. WE JEWS IN THE DIASPORA SHOULD PAY FOR IT, SINCE WE ARE THE FIRST VICTIMS OF CINICALLY "PROGRESSIVE", "POLITICALLY CORRECT" ANTISEMITES, LIKE THE BBC.
To think that you lousy Kraut Dog even dare to open your mouth only goes to show that the Russians should have stayed in Krautland for ever. You people are two time loosers, it is only that you are to stupid to realize it.
Proof: Both Jews and Arabs complain it is partial.
and virulently anti semitic. Not for nothing is it called the Biased Broadcasting Corporation by some and by others the Blasphemous Broadcasting Corporation. Its consistent one sided reporting of events concerning Israel is well documented
Today the BBC is reporting the rockets hitting Sderot. The BBC is also reporting the Israeli response to the rockets hitting Sderot. I cannot understand what the problem is. The BBC is not an Israeli broadcasting Company. It cannot just show the Israeli view and not the Palestinian view.
The BBC had indeed a glorious past. We, Romanians during the hard communist years were cathing its broadcast, it was hope for a better world. But today it seems that this glorious past is forgoten. Cowardice, coruption, antisemitism, and so on. A pity. The interst is far from being un natural. It is an interest with a "Pickwick-anian" nature. Damboviteanu -from his armchair in the Club...
The rocket(a crude device sent from a parked van,not unlike the Qassams) was presumbly aimed at the Whitehall. There was no end of the pudgy Brit journos describing their "terrible experience" of listening to a muffed explosion. Well,perhaps the next time they'd experience the "real thing".Pity they won't be able to report it.
Where are all the leftists hiding? Why are they not screaming whats going on in sderot? Or is it only the palesinians that count? But there own Jewish brothers dont? Leftists are self hating people!!!
Let the BBC be stationed in Ramallah and Gaza. Israel must expel this highly biased and very damaging reporting. It seems the BBC front office is composed of old line classical British anti-Semites infused with Paki pro-terrorist types. Send them to the palestinians. Besides, Johnson could use a buddy. Prediction: I betcha the BBC doesn't go to palestinian gang controlled areas after being booted from Israel.
I agree, don't give away WB to thugs and don't give away ramat hagolan to those who want to kill israel
"Try to understand what Palestinians want, well...I guess you do know that. Give them life, hope and future and I promise rockets will no longer exist." Israel pulled out of Gaza. You have complete freedom there. All Israel got for its troubles are missle attacks, weapons smuggling, and hostage taking. Why should Israel now provide for an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank? All Israel will get is more killing. I promise you, stop all the terrorist idiocy and the Palestinians will get the West Bank and an independent state.
Lets face it, Britain has lost its identity. It is now a full paid up member of the Umma. You walk down any high street and the kids are wearing the checkered keffiyeh; its obviously there sympathies are not with Israel but with the more fashionable palestinians. Screw them - we wont help them when they get trampled down upon as dhimmi slaves.
Mon bien cher, bient avant que l'enfer va bouffer Israel, je pense que vos citoyens arabes vont declarer la France, "douce" France un emirat... Je pense aussi que votre nom (Francois) cache un Ali ou Moussa... A la procahine! Damboviteanu
For a nation that seems to depise the British and the BBC, you take an unatural/unhealthy interest in the repotage of the beeb. Whats up - does the truth hurt? Instead of voyeuristically torturing yourselfs why don't you instead stick to watching FOX news or even CNN.
"There is a simple solution. DON`T WATCH IT" Chris, I make it a point not to watch it. The problem is that millions of people around the world who don't know any better watch the BBC and are thus subjected to all of the anti-Israel bias.
to those who have responded saying that Sderot residents should take to shooting their own quassams, or that the IDF should just take out all of gaza, think about what it means to act with restraint and why we do it. if you are familiar, it is very much akin to the teachings of the Torah. it is immoral to randomly shoot knowing that innocent civilians may be killed. Hamas may not think the average Israeli is "innocent" or even "human", but why should we then lower ourselves to that level? i think there is a large recognition of the human suffering of the Pals by educated and moderate Israelis, unfortunately some Pals are not interested in behaving like decent human beings, and they ruin it for the rest.
Very good idea. But a much better (it is mine) if most of us do agree that the BBC reporting is corupted, we shoud find a way to forward those messages to the BBC house in London and to the British press. May be it does not help but for sure it doesn't hurt either...
Did Israel also create El Qaida? Or the Taliban? Or the nut cases of the Philippines, Kashmir, Chechnia etc etc? Israel will defend itself from crazy Muslim lunatics that believe that killing Israelis and killing other Arabs is a sport and too bad if it bothers the loonies. By the way, did Israel also create the 72 virgins waiting in heaven? And let's not forget the plastic key that potential suicide bombers are given to open the gates of paradise to find the famous virgins. Palestinians created Hamas, Fatah , misery and destruction. They were pretty wretched before 1967 and everybody knows what they were like during the British mandate.
I have often thought about this too. The reason is that Jews/Israelis are not maliciously seeking the death of innocents, or "all who stand in the way" of their larger goal. Israelis, by and large, want peace. The Pals mostly want a better life and opportunities, but they will never have this by way of violence. Certainly, those who seek the destruction of Israel are to blame for the stagnation in the ME. Israel has and would accept a peaceful 2-state solution, etc. but all the terrorists want is more terror. The unity PA government is a sham. It is necessary for the IDF to be in West Bank, just look what happened to Gazan "sovereignty." Unfortunately for Pal, they may have missed too many opportunities. I hope Israel hangs on to WB and GOlan, don't give land to terrorists
Ensueing the weekend, the fights continue intesifying and have caused one more life to leave: during the ride she ceased and the fighting continues raging on. It seems its only aggravating especially with the hard stance the Prime Minister is having opposing as if it were the invisible Palestinian Authority. So, we think the PA is quiet, maybe so, but he's yelling and resonating loudly throughout the militant groups and is like a low-frequency wave with the chaos speaking for itself
Stop paying the BBC its license fee handouts...
The lack of BBC coverage is completely understandable. As is the anti-Semitism in the UK. The British are, forgive me for lack of a better term, "butt-hurt" about no longer retaining their Palestinian Mandate territories. Yes, it was over 50 years ago, but it can be traced as the source of their lack of respect for Israel. What Israel needs to do now is get into Gaza, and simply NOT STOP until the mission is complete. Look back at history, and you will see that wars are won when you stick with it and finish the job you begin. Olmert said that no real decisive action was taken because no one had been killed. Well, isn't this the green light? This is your LAST CHANCE to redeem yourself, Olmert. But even that would take a miracle. God bless and watch over Israel.
There is a simple solution. DON'T WATCH IT
It's been long ago obvious, that the Oslo process failed, because Palestinians violated each and every of their commitments. The terrorists, who Israel hoped would become politicians and state builders, cannot get along even among each other -- they remained terrorists and murderers. The PA is evil. It should be dismantled and military occupation restored for the better of the both nations. When the order is restored, the security of both Israelis and Palestinians improve and the life standards of the Palestinians rise to the pre-Oslo level, the new processes will begin the Palestinian society and the new forces emerge: patriotic and peaceful one, with which it will be possible to reach peace. But it will happen only after Fatah-Hamas-Islamic Jihad criminal mafias are sent where they belong -- jail or grave.
A Jewish woman in Sderot is sacrificed to the gods of PR so the Jews do not have to worry about what the Goyim will think should they finally decide to defend themselves. Gaza should have been decimated after it elected Hamas. It is only Hamas that controls the Kassams.
He's letting this happen. And has NO answers. About time Israel got a PM who knows how to deal with the rocket attacks. (Temporarily halting all other Gaza operations -and offering to renew the cease-fire; but lining up IDF troops along the entire Gaza border and explaining to the world and the PA that they will respond immediately to each and every rocket, might help.)
I have also noticed this bias with the BBC, as well as the Boston Globe and their smaller project, the Metro. If they do not omit information, than the syntactical structure of their reports present one side of the incident. I completely agree with your sentiments.
It's time they made their own Qassam rockets. For every rocket fired by the Islamists, the residents of Sderot should reply with 3.
There is no doubt that the BBC are scum. Even their own senior editor told them they're anti-Israel and institutionally leftist.
for every qassam into Israel 20 into Gaza City! But because the IDF doesn't have the guts to do that, the World Bank should covertly supply Israeli settlers with rockets. What the heck, get some long range missiles to the settlers so they could fire them at Teheran too; at least that way someone in Israel would be doing something useful.
If it were that simple! Palestinians want everything that the Jews have built for the last 100 years without the sweat and trouble of doing it themselves. They want the infrastructure in its entirety including utilities, hospitals, schools, universities and houses. Perhaps the IDF has not stopped the kassam rockets but the Palestinians have achieved nothing, built nothing , and are still living in the same squalor they lived when the Ottomans ruled the area. They are a hopeless people and will remain that way until they realize that their war against Israel is hurting them more than it is harming Israel.
Yeh, for Olmert to ride around in a Taxi all day & night in Sderot until a rocket catches him THEN Maybe the Israelis will get busy doing what they should do.
- and now innocent poeple are paying the highest price for the mistakes of murderers, who ruled and still rule this country. "Speaking in Jerusalem Dec. 20, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Kurtzer made the connection between the growth of the Islamic fundamentalist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and Israel's promotion of the Islamic movement as a counter to the Palestinian nationalist movement." "The ambassador's comments are an acknowledgment of what any serious Middle East observers knows: Hamas has always been seen as a tool by which Israel could undermine the nationalist movement led by Palestinian Authority President and Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Chairman Yasser Arafat. Similar statements by Arafat have been dismissed by Israel as "cranky" propaganda." - parts of http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/AND204A.html
my of Israel. Even today they've "cautioned" Israel against "damaging palestinian infrastructure"-read "As soon as a pal goon enters a building he's got an Ambassador status"
If Israel decided to react as the Palestinians have, Emad, than Gaza would be a wasteland. Be careful what you wish for. To date, the Palestinians have taken every opportunity for life, hope, and future, and turned it into death and dust.
Apartheid has said that these rockets are nothing -- just "fireworks," in his works. He should apologize to all Israelis living in Sderot, including the family of this poor woman and those that have been injured.
I'm lebanese and i always blaimed Israel for what is going on in Middleast. I changed my mind though; Yesterday a bunch of terrorist palestinians naming themselves Fateh Al Islam attacked the lebanese army and killed over 20 militants. I just don't get it; they played a major role in the bloody civil war and now they are admiring for another one. I fully support Israel, and i think it's time for Israel to act against them. Ignore the different calls coming from europe and show those monsters whay they deserve. I hope the lebanese army will end this joke in all the paletinian camps. It's enough and we need to get rid of them, and the palestinians themselves have to take at least a tiny responsability and stop helping and covering those terrorists. go.go.go Israel and go.go.go Lebanse army
Given the inaccuracy of the Qassams and the terror they provoke, Israel should simply retaliate in kind-launch Qassams back into Gaza. The randomness of the accuracy should quickly bring the activity to a halt.
hey olmert were you waiting for someone to get killed by a rocket?? stop this willy nilly strikes in gaza and start take down one building after the next. one building for each rocket thats fired at israeli. no exceptions. pick any building and then say the next rocket attack will result in the neighboring building blown up. just go down the line until no more buildings left.
In fact, the other day the BBC was saying such wonderful things about the state of Israel and its fight with New Palestine. The British people have been great (the BEST) friend to America, historically, and in modern times, we should appreciate this friendship and see if we can find ways to wiggle in with this group hug. England and America and too much alike, culturalyl (unlike Israel) lingustically (unliek ISrael) and heritage wise (unlike ISrael) for us to discount this mighty state. :)
Once again, at a crossroads. This time let's get it right: Bomb them 24 hours a day. Target and kill every one of their politicians and leaders. When they march their dead through the streets, send in the missiles and take them out by the 100's.
Yesterday, May 20th I watched with incredulity a live program of young Oxford students listening to rambling of Col.Kadafi.As soon as this butcher and terrorist had some anti Israeli statement, the Oxford students were roaring with approval. Shocking!
Olmert & Peretz should hire the Lebanese Army to protect Sderot. They will fire at will (even before rockets are launched) and they come cheap.
Don't blame it entirely on reportage by the BBC, and please keep in mind that many, many British people have visited what remains of Palestine and they know what your people are up to on a daily basis. This you have no defense against and all your spin is of no consequence.
well Emad, I'm glad we amuse you. As far as what the Gazans want -- you say "give them life". Well Emad, you're kind of funny yourself. WHat do you have to say about Hamas and Fatah's mutual butchery? Are you respecting your own lives, which you demand of us with so much drama? Maybe you should take a peak in the mirror, that might solve a lot of problems for us as well as for you. Although looking at how "Palestinians" have behaved since they declared themselves a nation, there doesn't seem to be much hope. Oh well, too bad for them.
elect BB and he'll just fill his pockets with money and run; he's no better than any of the other wimps running the country.
Why aren't inhabitants of Sderot given rockets or artillery to just fire back at Gaza whenever fired upon? This has been going on for more than six years, it's like watching a woman get beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten... WTF? Just what does "never again" mean to Israelis who say that? Apparently it means "well actually, again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again..."
Don't you realize that the BBC was bought out by the Arabs (Saudi's) long ago? Besides, they've got a hostage reporter being held by the palestinian criminals they call freedom fighters & they learned (from Israel) that you have to be nice to them while they have hostages.
Israel needs a government that will protect its citizens. Olmert is a total failure.
ONE SIDED REPORTS, ignoring QASSAM attacks in BBC reports. The world will understand such a move.
The world has wearied of your continual squabbling, murdering and whinging, Pals. You have worn out your welcome and forfeited what ever hope you might once have had to constitute a state. Good bye. Now you will be swallowed into Egypt, Jordan, and of course Hell.
Only 35 medics? The strategists at the Olmert Circus should call for a general mobelization of ALL able-bodied street cleaners to quickly clean up the hourly mess created in Sderot (and eventually Askelon, Ashdod, etc.) and show our enemies that we mean business!. Olmert should consult Peretz and maybe even the peace loving Peres on how to best deal with the rubble so to keep Israel clean. The oppostion should rally behind the current leaders in order that this cleanup strategy should work. And then appoint Winograd to report that it was a great success this time around. How Sad!
I absolutley agree with Lemar about the BBC. The BBC reporting is so onesided pro Palistinian. It makes us so angry here in UK
They are doing the same style of reporting in Lebanon. Convenientlyforgetting that Lebanese soldiers were killed by militants before the Lebanese Army started shelling outside of Tripoli. Anything involving Pals is always the other guy's fault. Such BS!!!!!!
Sounds like it would behoove (help) the Pals to stop lobbing missiles into Israeli towns. There is an old saying in American "payback is a bitch" Keep bombing Israel and they will keep bombing you, which citizen (israeli or pal) on average suffers more... hmmmmmmm
Do you know what reading comprehension is? Not 35 soldiers but 35 reserve soldier MEDICS. Get it? They are dispatched to give emergency medical aid to the wounded.
Just give me one single successful Israeli operation in Gaza. You're getting more brutal against the Gazans, while still being showered by rockets. Your politics is extremely crippled. Try to understand what Palestinians want, well...I guess you do know that. Give them life, hope and future and I promise rockets will no longer exist. Plus, rockets...that's a misleading name...comparing to your military arsenal...that doesn't even have the least count.
35 soldiers against the whole Hamas army on the other side of the border? Poor people of Sderot.
I was amazed, to say the least, hearing the BBC reporting from the Gaza area, here in Bucharest. The reason for the Israeli air force attacks, namely the firing by the Hamas and other Palestinians groups of rockets on Sderot was usually not mentioned at all, and if mentioned it was more like a "foot note". Indeed hardly to believe. Since most of the foreign correspondents in Gaza live under fear and stress, they know that the only way to their well being and survival is unfair reporting. They do not undertake this hard job for high professional reasons or standards, they are most probably well paid, by the BBC and, who knows, also by their good friends, the terrorist organizations. L. Damboviteanu, Bucarest
u have no right to say anything come on mr holocoust remember that. also we did not start the rocket attack so what we should do? just take it sure all u jew haters would love that .that is why we protect our small country so the same horrors wont happen agian in israel that happened in berlin
Rolf, if the contents of your response are true - which I sincerely doubt - , maybe the Israeli's after all had good teachers and learned fast while being pursued by your country men some time ago. Please look first in your own backyard and let us know the source of your alleged information, der Spiegel or the Bild Zeitung ? ? ?
Why don`t You report this: After sound-bombings of the IDF in the Gaza strip 77 people, especially children and elderly women, rushed to the hospital after the attack, suffering from nausea and confusion, some of whom were transferred to a specialist care centre for treatment of the nervous system. Some of the more serious cases involved internal bleeding in the brain and five pregnant women lost their babies as a direct result of the sound-bomb attack - a new Israeli tactic known to traumatize and induce miscarriages.
" At least eight civilians were killed and 20 wounded on Monday in a Lebanese army shelling of a Palestinian refugee camp during fighting with Islamist militants, Palestinian sources inside the camp said. " Instead of calling up 35 reserve medics to add to the other poor sitting ducks in Sderot and give medical treatment after it may be already too late, we should take an example of our Lebanese neighbours and see how they - at least try to - take care of their after all own flesh and blood citizens who become rebellious. Bomb the living daylight out of them and forget about collateral damage, the only solution besides making peace. You don't want to make peace, BOMB, the world doesn't like you anyway. You don't want to bomb, make PEACE but stop playing around. Moshe Dayan would have known how to take care of this, in his time the Arabs already peed in their pants only when hearing his name. Olmert and Peretz sure don't seem to scare them one bit !
Hammas Official Spokesman !!!!!!
does anybody, besides the arabs and their "friends" watches or listen to the bbc??? ISRAELIS, DO WHAT MUST BE DONE TO SAVE THE JEWISH NATION! ELECT BB TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE MESS YOU GOT YOURSELF INTO!
The biased BBC reporting is making more ant Semites than the entire Hamas group. BBC headlines completely ignore the thousand Quassam rockets yet report every Israel retaliation. THAT is why the UK are so anti Israel. The BBC must be expelled from Israel and the world told why. That will be a story everyone will read