• Published 00:00 04.06.06
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With a little help from the outside

We should thank the British organization that boycotted Israel from the bottom of our hearts.

By Gideon Levy

The laugh of fate: The state waging a broad international campaign for a boycott is simultaneously waging a parallel campaign, no less determined, against a boycott. A boycott that seriously harms the lives of millions of people is legitimate in its eyes because it is directed against those defined as its enemies, while a boycott that is liable to hurt its academic ivory tower is illegitimate in its eyes only because it is aimed against itself. This is a moral double standard. Why is the boycott campaign against the Palestinian Authority, including blocking essential economic aid and boycotting leaders elected in democratic and legal elections, a permissible measure in Israel's eyes and the boycott of its universities is forbidden?

Israel cannot claim the boycott weapon is illegitimate. It makes extensive use of this weapon itself, and its victims are suffering under severe conditions of deprivation, from Rafah to Jenin. In the past, Israel called upon the world to boycott Yasser Arafat, and now it is calling for a boycott of the Hamas government - and via this government, all of the Palestinians in the territories. And Israel does not regard this as an ethical problem. Tens of thousands have not received their salaries for four months due to the boycott, but when there is a call to boycott Israeli universities, the boycott suddenly becomes an illegitimate weapon.

Those calling for a boycott of Israel are also tainted with a moral double standard. The National Association of Teachers in Further and Higher Education (NATFHE) in Britain and the Canadian Union of Public Employees in Ontario, which have both decided to boycott Israel, did not act similarly to protest their own countries' war crimes and occupations - the British army in Iraq and the Canadian army in Afghanistan. Nonetheless, the handful of human rights advocates and opponents of the occupation in Israel should thank these two organizations for the step they have taken, despite their flawed double standards.

It would have been preferable had the opponents of the occupation in Israel not needed the intervention of external groups to fight the occupation. It is not easy to call upon the world to boycott your own country. It would have been better had there been no need for Rachel Corrie, James Miller and Tom Hurndall, bold people of conscience who paid with their lives after standing in front of the destructive bulldozers in Rafah. These young foreigners did the dangerous and vital work that Israelis should have done.

The same is true for the few peace activists who still manage to roam the territories, to protest and offer assistance to the victims of the occupation in the framework of organizations like the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) - which Israel fights - preventing its members from entering its borders. It would be better if Israelis mobilized to fight instead of them. But except for a few modest groups, there is no protest in Israel and no real mobilization. Thus, it only remains to hope for the world's help.

The world can help save Israel from itself in limited ways. In a situation in which the governments of the West effectively support the continuation of the occupation, even if they declare their opposition to it, this role moves to civil organizations. When a group of American attorneys, including Jews, calls for a boycott of the Caterpillar company, whose bulldozers razed complete neighborhoods in Khan Yunis and Rafah, it should be thanked for this. The same applies to the boycott of the universities: When an association of British university lecturers boycotts Israeli colleagues who are not prepared to at least declare their opposition to the occupation, we should appreciate it. Each group in its field, and perhaps this will someday also include tourism officials, business people, artists and athletes. If all these boycott Israel, perhaps Israelis will begin to understand, albeit the hard way, that there is a price to pay for the occupation - a price in their pockets and in their status.

The occupation is not just the domain of the government, army and security organizations. Everything is tainted: institutions of justice and law, the physicians who remain silent while medical treatment is prevented in the territories, the teachers who do not protest against the closing of educational institutions and the prevention of free movement of their peers, the journalists who do not report, the writers and artists who remain mum, the architects and engineers who lend a hand to the occupation's enterprises - the settlements and the fence, the barriers and bypass roads and also the university lecturers, who do nothing for their imprisoned colleagues in the territories, but conduct special study programs for the security forces. If all these boycotted the occupation, there would be no need for an international boycott.

The world sees a great and ongoing injustice. Should it remain silent? It is not, of course, the only injustice in the world. Nor is it the most terrible. But does this make it any less necessary to act against it?

It is easy to exempt ourselves from our moral responsibility and attribute, as usual, any criticism to anti-Semitism. There may indeed be some elements of anti-Semitism among those calling for the boycott. But also among them are groups and individuals, including quite a few Jews, for whom Israel is close to their hearts. They want a just Israel. They see an Israel that occupies and is clearly unjust, and they believe they should do something. We should thank them for this from the bottom of our hearts.

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  • 189. 0 0
    Dutch Arab; There has never been a "Palestinian" country or peopl
    • Palestiniansareamyth
    • 06.06.06
    • 04:51

    The Arabs are refugees from Arabia. Israel belongs to the Jews. Despite your lies the world is waking up to the truth!

  • 188. 0 0
    Gideon Levy is a Nazi!
    • Palestiniansareamyth
    • 06.06.06
    • 04:49

    Nazi websites areound the world published Levy's anti-semtic articles. I'm sure he's proud of that, jerk!

  • 187. 0 0
    #182 EYEWITNESSES OF ISM SAID
    • paul harris
    • 05.06.06
    • 23:56

    THEY PLAYED TAG ALL OF THE TIMME WITH D9,S RACHEL ON THE OCCASION JUMPED ON TO A PILE OF SAND " AND THE SAND COLLAPSED UNDER HER AS SHE FELL UNDER THE D9". THE ONLY 2 POINTS WHY ISRAEL DID NOT ARREST AND DEPORT THESE IDIOTS . THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED BY ISM TO BE IN CONSTANT DANGER

  • 186. 0 0
    Chanah, still making a fool of herself
    • wibism
    • 05.06.06
    • 23:41

    Chanah, you keep on convincing us you aren't very intelligent. There was one bulldozer. The driver saw Rachel and murdered her deliberately. I was there. Were you? The ISM (unlike you) doesn't need to lie. Only those with something to hide need lie. Free Palestine!

  • 185. 0 0
    Timing is everything Mr. Levy
    • Jacob Blues
    • 05.06.06
    • 23:05

    The two recent attempts to boycott Israel, come AFTER, its government had removed all Jews, living and dead from Gaza. It comes AFTER, the current Israeli administration has announced plans to remove more settlers from the West Bank. It comes AFTER repeated calls by a number of Israeli government officials calling for an end to the occupation, and comes AFTER a similar number of calls by Israeli government officials declaring that there should be an independent Palestinian state. Meanwhile, the world demand to withold aid dollars comes AFTER Hamas won the PA parlimentary elections. Comes AFTER Hamas declared no end to Jihad. Comes AFTER Hamas reiteration of its goal to destroy Israel, and AFTER its support for terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians, including suicide bomb attacks. There is a distinct seperation between cause and effect in your analysis.

  • 184. 0 0
    #182, so what are you saying?
    • Danny - Israeli one
    • 05.06.06
    • 21:19

    So the photos that the ISM are showing are indeed misleading as they show different tractors... or they aren't misleading and when they show one tractor in particular that is the one that ran her over. Tried your site it crashes my Internet Explorer

  • 183. 0 0
    #181 The Problem is not Gideon Levy but Israeli Policies
    • Dutch
    • 05.06.06
    • 18:19

    Isaac, The problem is not Gideon Levy it is your governments policies towards the Palestinian people. They are not your enemies but rather the victims and you should recognize and acknowledge this. Now some may trace this problem back to Theodore Hertzl himself who wrote in his personal diary over 100 years his desire "to inherit the land " and "spirit the penniless population across the border." Others may attributed it to Ben Gurion who said in 1947 upon receiving the UN partition of Palestine : "We take now what the UN gives us, later we will take the rest" Nevertheless it seems one Israeli leader after another bought into ground plan which accounts today for over 200 illegal settlements and outposts. Israeli leaders knew well back in 1967 the settle- ments were a violation of international law (see URL below) and despite many warnings from all the US presidents going back to Eisenhower those stubborn Israeli leaders continued. (Jimmy Carter's column, http://www.cartercenter.org/doc2320.htm) Thus over time it became more difficult for Israeli leaders to consider giving up the settlements as the historian Motti Golani explains: "It was convenient for Israel's leadership to take the route of war and it was the way of peace that caused it great difficulties. .. In many sense, it was easier to go to war than the alternative restraint and concessions of various kind." Hence Israeli leaders became chronic underminers and I feel canned one peace proposals after another. The Palestinian people are not your enemies it's your governments policies. Now for the sake of progress can we all agree it maybe human to err but it is stupid to stay in error. So why not apologize and acknowledge the sins of the past and promise to do better and and negotiate to give back the stolen goods? Polls on both sides show people want a peace deal and an end to the violence. There should be no reason why that shouldn't happen if people are honest and open. Dutch P.S. Israel was fore warned about the settlements in 1967. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article350586.ece

  • 182. 0 0
    Bulldozers
    • Anonymous
    • 05.06.06
    • 16:23

    Take five minutes and read something will you? There were three bulldozers in operation when Rachel Corrie was murdered. She had stood in front of all three at different points throughout the day. Good videos on the subject available here: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/158271 http://www.ourmedia.org/node/158250 http://www.ourmedia.org/node/164499

  • 181. 0 0
    We should respec t Levy's feelings
    • Isaac
    • 05.06.06
    • 13:54

    Gideon Levy is a grown man, and if he has chosen to love the Palestinians and denigrate the Israelis, to see no evil among his beloved Palestinians and no good among his despised Israelis, it is his choice, and we must respect his right to his feelings, even if no sane Israeli will share them.

  • 180. 0 0
    Chana, nothing would make me happier
    • Danny - Israeli one
    • 05.06.06
    • 12:00

    than believe it is all a lie. I can notice differences but they are quite small and could easily be explained by differences in angles in photography - remember the "massive damage" in Jenin photos. But is it a CLEAR-CUT lie that only the hopelessly biased could not see, I am sorry that is not the case. I have absolutely no sympathy for these people and personally do not understand why we let them in. I still remember the help the gave to the besieged terrorists in the Bethlem church - endangering Israeli lives by prolonging the siege. That the people inside included "militants" is not something denied, least of all by the Palestinians.

  • 179. 0 0
    Terrific column
    • Richard Silverstein
    • 05.06.06
    • 11:48

    Another terrific Gideon Levy column. Thank you for pointing out the delicious irony of Israel prosecuting a brutal boycott of Hamas & the Palestinians while squealing bitterly against the academic boycott. Doubtless there are many (including here) who will accuse Levy of being a traitor and other such useless hogwash. But Levy is not the traitor. Rather, it is those Israelis who condone the Occupation by not fighting against it tooth & nail who betray their nation's best interest.

  • 178. 0 0
    The Self Absorbed People in IIsrael, Part #2
    • Dutch
    • 05.06.06
    • 10:44

    Part #2 Those Self Absorbed People in Israel. Gideon Levy, I might add these are the same hypocrites who sympathize with the radical settlers who screamed Holocaust when they were removed from their illegal residence in Gaza and remain silent while thousands of innocent Palestinian refugees who were uprooted from their homes in 1948 by their Zionist gangs are forced to rot in interment camps as Israel refuses to allow them to return to "their homes" as stated in UN 194. All the while Israel allows foreigners from other countries to return to Israel and live off the fat of their land and push them off their roads and ration them on their own water. (What kind of a conscience do these Israelis have anyhow? I have never seen the likes of it. How can they tolerate this?) Not to mention the latest disgraceful ruling by the Israeli Supreme Court that labeled the indigenous people enemies of the state .Since when can an indigenous people be enemies of their own state? What twisted logic. Still, it isn't unlike the bogus "self-defense" they cry in the territories where they are the unlawful occupiers and then they turn around and call the Palestinians the enemies and kill them. Isn't it all just shocking! People should wake up and question things around them. They shouldn't buy into propaganda. . I heard recently from a few Israelis with a conscience how they hate their country and government and how they feel the trees are beginning to reflect this awful injustice against the Palestinian people and how they can't stand it anymore and feel they have to leave their country. Dutch

  • 177. 0 0
    Bulldozers can morph into different bulldozers?
    • Chana
    • 05.06.06
    • 10:19

    The two photos do NOT show the same bulldozer. The landscape behind the bulldozers is not the same either. Look at a larger set of photos or something. Corrie wore the same orange "protest" jacket every day. These two photos were clearly taken on different days. The ISM is clearly lying about the photos.

  • 176. 0 0
    Before we get all excited
    • Danny - Israeli one
    • 05.06.06
    • 10:11

    One needs to realise what a fringe the boycott movement is - out of the 69,000 members of the NATFHE 106 voted for the boycott, people who probably boycotted anyway and definitely knew that in a couple of days they would merging with the AUT and any decision would be revoked. As such any such "boycott" was be a purely token move and to be frank with such intellectual giants from the hallowed halls of Birmingham and the Open University what else could you expect and who would want to collaborate with these dimwits?

  • 175. 0 0
    #173, I did do a check
    • Danny - Israeli one
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:59

    I looked it up and I found the picture at: http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1583823.php The pictures are taken from different angles but to me it looks like it was taken at the same time and at the same place. The caption that there "was no doubt that the driver could see her" is extremely dubious - we can't see him. And the guy in the white t-shirt in the first photo isn't present later - presumably because as well as having the presence of mind to get out of the way of a 1-ton tractor he also was able to photo. There are at least three different photographers. But obvious lie - I don't think so.

  • 174. 0 0
    #151m wibism death in gaza
    • vladimir
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:48

    death in gaza is going on and hopefully will continue for long long time, fatah killing hamas and hamas killing fatah and anyone in between. halleluia!!!!

  • 173. 0 0
    The ISM's "proof" of what happened to Corrie is outright lies.
    • Chana
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:33

    On various websites, the ISM shows photos as their "proof" that Rachel Corrie was murdered. They show what they say is "proof" that she identified herself and was visible before being hit. Then they show her on the ground. The two photos show DIFFERENT BULLDOZERS (different models of bulldozers) at DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. The landscape behind the bulldozers in the two photos is completely different, in other words. Apparently, Jews are so clever that we were able to beam in a DIFFERENT MODEL OF BULLDOZER to put in front of Corrie and then BEAM CORRIE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION IN GAZA THAT HAS A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE IN THE BACKGROUND. Anyone who wants to look at those photos - just Google for Corrie. The photos clearly show different bulldozers and a different location, although the captions claim that these are photos taken before and after Corrie was hurt. ISM supports Palestinian terrorism, so lying is child's play for them.

  • 172. 0 0
    aby
    • vladimir
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:25

    answers of levy: 1 right of return to pals and tickets -one way to jews back totheir countries. 2. all israel should be liberated by pals. 3. ther is no such a country - see correct iranian position.

  • 171. 0 0
    Rachel Corrie is a victim of terror
    • The Berlin Wall
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:22

    I'm always amazed at how the apologists for the state of Israel rewrite history. It's bad enough that Zionists have lied for 60 years about driving 700,000 Palestinians out of their land. Now CHGODMK is saying that Rachel Corrie is naive for putting herself in front of an oncoming bulldozer. That Caterpillar bulldozer was driven by an Israeli soldier. It wasn't oncoming. It was standing there as Rachel Corrie shouted through a bullhorn to go away and leave the house she and other ISMers were protecting. The bulldozer moved forward, then pulled her under its blade. It stopped, dropped the blade and scraped it back across her, breaking her back. Do none of you read the reports of her death or look at the photos? Are you blind to what your country does to terrorise Palestinians, internationals, and Israeli peace groups who peacefully protest? Israel is not a light among nations. It's a terrorist state that is busy ethnically cleansing the indigenous population.

  • 170. 0 0
    #145 IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT EARTH MOVING MACHINES YOU
    • paul harris
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:22

    WOULD NOT TALK TOTAL CRAP ISM SENT UNLEARNED MORONS INTO THINGS THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND !! RACHEL WAS KILLED BY PLAYING TAG WITH A D9 WHICH IS STUPIDITY OF THE FIRST ORDER.

  • 169. 0 0
    moniroth
    • vladimir
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:21

    pals never fed themselves, world should abandon then and let them swim or sink. food to africa, not to terrorists. starve khalids.

  • 168. 0 0
    #23, leo or muhamad maybe?
    • vladimir
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:19

  • 167. 0 0
    152 HOOW MUCH MORE DINFORMATION IS DORIS ALLOWED IN THESE COLUMNS
    • paul harris
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:19

    DORIS , DO US ALL A FAVOUR AND BOYCOTT YOUR ISRAELI DESIGNED SOFTWARE FOR YOUR COMPUTER!! BOYCOTT YOUR MISINFORMATION CHARTS PLEASE GIVE TOTAL ANALYSIS OF PALESTINIAN AL SHOULD BEIN JORDAN THE ARAB "PALESTINIAN STATE !!

  • 166. 0 0
    david from tel aviv
    • vladimir
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:17

    rehov shenkuin, probabl? from were did you get 90bln$? pure fantasy as usual for mentally retarded drunk and drug abusers from rehov shenkin.

  • 165. 0 0
    142wibism: ISM, a branch of hamas
    • KUTW
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:17

    The ISM was founded by hamas short time after the outbreak of the second intifada. Rachel Corrie and Hundall were members of that gang, so they supported the terrorists, never the Israeli children from hamas suicide bombers. Free Israel from the pal terrorists

  • 164. 0 0
    Rationalizing a double standard so soon after the Shoah?
    • South African
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:16

    Stan Greenberg is polling Europe now only to discover that the support for the Palestinians is plummeting. The boycotts are the moral impotent's last ditch efforts to claim some credit for the withdrawal that their most hated adversary, Ariel Sharon, decided upon. But they have nothing to do with it. When the Democrats retake the USA, they won't be any more palatable to Gideon Levy.

  • 163. 0 0
    Wibism Re#152, one truth
    • FOX
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:09

    tHERE IS ONE TRUTH, in this conflict. In 1948, the Palestinians thought they could go visit their relatives for a week and return to their homes. the Jews had nowhere but the sea to escape to, thus we won. Truth part II. Arafat felt it necessary to lead his "people" into another war for it all, in the year 2000. Six years later we all realize that the Pals have gained nothing from the war except a a reputation as suicide bombers and sadistic and wanton baby killers. Enjoy the reality.

  • 162. 0 0
    dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
    • Phil
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:05

    This may be close to the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.

  • 161. 0 0
    levy you are moron as usual.
    • vladimir
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:04

  • 160. 0 0
    Wibism, if you were there, then you know about Pal child abuse.
    • Barbara
    • 05.06.06
    • 09:03

    PA TV teaches Palestinian children how to write suicide letters to their parents before they kill themselves in a suicide bombing. The Palis are a death cult. Children's playgrounds are named after suicide bombers. Suicide bombers are like rock stars to the Pals. Please notice the polls results publicized yesterday showing that Europe's support for the Palestinians is falling dramatically. They're finally seeing the truth about the Pals. You never will, but that's ok. You don't control the world.

  • 159. 0 0
    Levy fan: Read history not opinion!
    • Margie
    • 05.06.06
    • 08:44

    Sigh. Another one. If you had read the history of the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs you would know that the latter never ever keep to the provisions of any agreement that they sign. Levy's own "moral clarity" is blurred by his deliberately skewed or inadequate knowledge of the history of his country.

  • 158. 0 0
    Levy fan: Read history not opinion!
    • Margie
    • 05.06.06
    • 08:44

    Sigh. Another one. If you had read the history of the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs you would know that the latter never ever keep to the provisions of any agreement that they sign. Levy's own "moral clarity" is blurred by his deliberately skewed or inadequate knowledge of the history of his country.

  • 157. 0 0
    Paula Abrams: You go girl
    • The Berlin Wall
    • 05.06.06
    • 08:42

    Paula, you are a woman after my own heart. These crazy people who condemn Gideon Levy for his honesty are exactly like the military thugs who made a busload of Jewish women wait in the sun for four hours. These women were trying to do exactly what levy suggests...protest the apartheid policies of Israel and stand with Palestinians against this terrible occupation. The soldiers were terrible, and finally brought water to us after several Jewish grandmothers protested. If they treated us that way, you can imagine what they do to Palestinians. They shoot them, beat them and starve them. Levy should be lauded for his brave stand. We Americans pay for this occupation. We should be at the forefront, demanding boycotts, divestment, and sanctions. We should follow what Canada and the UK are doing. Shame on all of us, Jews and gentiles alike for allowing this slow-motion genocide of the Palestinians to continue.

  • 156. 0 0
    #94 ESAU DENIES HIS MESS OF POTAGE
    • paul harris
    • 05.06.06
    • 08:13

    SULLIVAN TIME TO GET ON TO YOUR TRAVELS

  • 155. 0 0
    Shrewdness and blindness
    • Lebanese
    • 05.06.06
    • 08:02

    Yes, hat off to Gideon Levy, a perceptive Israeli who perfectly perceives that Israel is not a district of New York but a part of the Middle East, which may and must have an important role of peace and development in the Middle East.

  • 154. 0 0
    david, Levy is always predictably incorrect.
    • Chana
    • 05.06.06
    • 08:00

    You wrote: "There is no serious stategic or military need for occupation, and to the contrary, only enflames passions." The large "settlement blocs" are located on the high ground overlooking Israel's coastal region. Considering that the Palis are mostly into rocket launching now that their suicide bombings have become so difficult to do - the last thing Israel is going to do is to turn over the high ground overlooking Israel to rocket crazy enemies. Yes, it makes the Palis very, very angry when they can't murder their expected quota of Jews within a given time frame. The Pal death cult needs to be vanquished.

  • 153. 0 0
    Chana and Barbara - rewriting history
    • wibism
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:58

    What makes you keep repeating these lies. Some of us were there. We saw it all. We know the truth. Why is Israel == and why are you == so afraid of the truth? Oh of course you are afraid, because it condemns you. Haven't you heard it could set you free? Free Palestine!

  • 152. 0 0
    BRING ON THE BOYCOTTS & WAKE UP THESE SELF ABSORBED PEOPLE
    • Dutch
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:53

    Gideon Levy, Isn't this just typical Israeli hypocrisy while they thrown the Palestinian society into chaos and near a humanitarian crisis with their global boycott they scream when a couple of indifferent academics being boycotted? Such hypocrites! I don't know how you can stand them as I am sick of them. Thus I say bring on the boycotts and wake up these self absorbed people. The Palestinian people "are equaual in dignity and rights" as they are as noted in the first article of the Declaration of Human Rights. I find it is unconsionable they would allow their government to ignore their humanity and human rights and banish them behind barbed wire and checkpoints. Then they throw up a wall that traps them and families behind it and makes their ordinary nearly un-bearable. People can't get to their fields when they want to or to their jobs, markets, schools and clinincs without being at the mercy of the IDF timetable. How cruel and inhumane. Dutch

  • 151. 0 0
    Death in Gaza #140
    • wibism
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:48

    It's true James Miller (who was the cinematographer) was working on the first part of a two part series about the effect of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on children. The first part was about the effect on Palestinian children, and the second was to be about the effect on Israeli children. Sadly the Israeli army murdered him before he was able to begin the second film. I have no doubt he would have shown how terrible war is for both sides. Death in Gaza, as you say, shows the terrible price the children of Palestine have paid for this brutal invasion and occupation of their land and the destruction of their lives and families. Free Palestine!

  • 150. 0 0
    Death in Gaza
    • wibism
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:44

  • 149. 0 0
    ANOTHER NEXT 3000 YEARS
    • indrajaya
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:40

    "Israel should thank these two organizations for the step they have taken, despite their flawed double standards". ... I think Israel should thank too Gideon Levy for his effort to put internationational morality and ethics into broader perspective. Newspaper like Haaretz and person like Levy will make Israel not so easily to destroy. No wonder Jewish people could endure another 3000 years of existence. You better listen to Levy, me too.

  • 148. 0 0
    Cancel my subscription
    • David Klein
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:39

    Good grief! If I weren't so cheap and I had a subscription to Ha'aretz I'd cancel it after reading this piece. David B. Klein

  • 147. 0 0
    Palestinian Child Abuse
    • Barbara
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:34

    A few years ago, one of the Fatah/PLO/PA leaders said that it was a shame that so many Pal children were having their hands blown off by pipe bombs. Terrorists were paying children roughly $1 to throw a pipe bomb at a tank or an IDF vehicle. If the pipe bomb went off early, the child lost his hand. The PA official said that at least 40 children had lost a hand this way. The PA lists these as children injured by Israel, of course. Over a year ago, a Pal family in Gaza tried to get terrorists off their lawn where the terrorists were trying to shoot a rocket at Israel. The terrorists shot and killed the family's 17 year old son, and then listed this death with the UN as a casualty of the IDF. Human rights groups don't care about these kids, though. Human rights groups let Pals kill and maim their own society's children all they want.

  • 146. 0 0
    Let's get things straight.
    • Chana
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:24

    Rachel Corrie's writings indicate that she had this belief that Israel worships white skin. She believed that this made it impossible for her to be hurt no matter what she did. She believed that Israel would do anything rather than harm white skin. How idiotic! So she took ridiculous chances with her life in the belief that her skin was a magic shield. On the day she was hurt, a bulldozer was working away from the protesters and she went over to it on her own (without her buddies there.) When she lost her balance, she was covered by debris. If she'd been run over by a multi-ton bulldozer, she wouldn't have been a woman bleeding. She would have been blood and tissue. The human body can't hold a multi-ton bulldozer on it without being completely smashed. Her friends yelled for the bulldozer to stop when they saw she'd fallen, but it's the same thing they always yell ("Stop!") The man in the bulldozer wasn't aware she was there. Corrie made a foolish mistake on that day.

  • 145. 0 0
    wibism: Rachel Corrie
    • CHGODMK
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:22

    Personally, I think Rachel Corrie was a very brave, idealistic soul. I also think she was naive, ignorant of the cause she embraced so passionately, and very stupid to deliberately put herself in harm's way by standing before an oncoming bulldozer. The sad thing is she has already been forgotten by most of the world. Free Israel from Terror!

  • 144. 0 0
    Death in Gaza
    • Jay
    • 05.06.06
    • 07:08

    I urge everyone to watch the documentry titled "Death in Gaza" directed by Levy's beloved James Miller. James Miller was not biased in the conflict and wanted to film a two part documentry. The first one takes place in the West Bank and Gaza strip. In this documentry you will witness 10 year old Palestinians talking about growing up to be suicide bombers, and playing kill Israeli games. School classrooms of Palestinians aged 10-12 learning that Palestine is all of Israel and Israel occupies everything. You will see Palestinian children who work in bomb factories, and serve as look outs for terrorist groups such as Hamas. This look into the Palestinian Death Cult and its mainstream society is a real opener. Its really funny how because he was killed by Israeli gun fire, (you see him get shot at the end of the film), these propagandists charge how he is a defender of the Palestinians. This is a false assumption, and anybody with interest into the conflict should watch it.

  • 143. 0 0
    IS THIS GIDEON LEVY IN FACT A JEW?
    • Steven Zeluck
    • 05.06.06
    • 06:58

    I have read segments of about six of this Gideon Levy's articles. He has a Jewish name, but is he in fact a Jew? Is this man a Jewish Israeli? I ask this because he shows by his writing that he loves and identifies with the Arabs more than with the Jews. He should move to Syria or Egypt for example. He has no place being among Jews in general and Israeli Jews in particular.

  • 142. 0 0
    KUTW lies again
    • wibism
    • 05.06.06
    • 06:27

    Another member hamas member was Tom Hurndall --- Tom Hurndall was no more a terrorist than you are (assuming you aren't a member of the IOF) First scum lime you murdered him and then scum like you disgrace yourselves by defaming his name. Courageous souls like Tom Hurndall, Rachel Corrie and James Miller will remembered when you are long gone and forgotten. God bless all human rights activists. Free Palestine!

  • 141. 0 0
    Paula Abrams Hourani
    • Wibism
    • 05.06.06
    • 06:01

    Couldn't agree more, Paula. These are the kind of people who would hold a bus full of Italian grandmothers at a checkpoint in the West Bank for three hours without water. Free Palestine!

  • 140. 0 0
    Levy is regrettably correct
    • david
    • 05.06.06
    • 05:48

    Regrettably, Giddon Levy is correct. The Israelis continue with their colonialist enterprise presuming that they can get away with it since the americans have implicitly sanctioned it. Support for the state of Israel should not be translated into support for the occupation. There is no serious stategic or military need for occupation, and to the contrary, only enflames passions. As Israel is entitled to a state, so equally so are the Palestinians. Have the Palestinians committed terrorist acts, of course. So have the Israelis. Enough with pseudo historic considerations. The only road to peace lies with disengagement from all occupied territoy. Two states for two peoples. Colonialism is a guarantee for continued warfare, and of equal importance is morally repugnant.

  • 139. 0 0
    Franzens friends new forum
    • thumper
    • 05.06.06
    • 05:40

    Thanks for telling me about your mate's new forum on Delphi Forums - called "Islamophobia". How cunning to disguise an Antisemitic forum under that name. I see all Jews have been barred. Great start. Keep up the good work. jt

  • 138. 0 0
    113 In defence of Ronnie Wolman
    • True Brit
    • 05.06.06
    • 00:00

    Wibism, are you implying that because Ronnie lives in Canada he is not entitled to an opinion? If so do you also condemn CUPE and NATFHE, one also from Canada and one from U.K.? Or do you only condemn those whose opinions you don't agree with? There are many times I disagree with Ronnie, and others, but I would defend their right to hold and express their opinions.

  • 137. 0 0
    with a little help from the inside
    • christoph
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:55

    With a little help from Gideon Levy, the antisemites of the world will achieve what we in Germany did not wholly achieve. Good God, Gideon! You may be critical of yourself if you think it is adequate and I wish 80 million Germans had 5% of your self-criticism. But do not lead into danger Jews deeper as Europeans did and do anyway.

  • 136. 0 0
    Levy and the boycott
    • Levy fan
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:47

    Too bad there are so few Israelis who have the moral clarity of Gideon Levy. If we had more of them, we would have peace between Israelis and Palestinians tomorrow. We are at war because Israelis still do not see their complicity in the occupation and the bureacratic strangulation of Palestinians. They do not see how they have put them in maze and placed 19-year olds at the checkpoints of the maze. Wake up Israel!

  • 135. 0 0
    Levy and the boycott
    • Levy fan
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:47

    Too bad there are so few Israelis who have the moral clarity of Gideon Levy. If we had more of them, we would have peace between Israelis and Palestinians tomorrow. We are at war because Israelis still do not see their complicity in the occupation and the bureacratic strangulation of Palestinians. They do not see how they have put them in maze and placed 19-year olds at the checkpoints of the maze. Wake up Israel!

  • 134. 0 0
    # 120 Gideon Levy
    • Elias
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:29

    Why is it that Gideon Levy cannot write a honest article to his readers and tell us if he agrees with the fact that had the Arab leaders accepted the 1947 UN Partition Plan we would have had 50 years ago 2 independent States: Israel and Palestine living together in peace and friendship with a booming economy,tourism and stability in the whole region of the Middle East .Why is it in his opinion the reason for the arab rejection of the partition plan? in the circumstances why is it that Levy bombards Israel with injustice,inhuman treatment of the Palestinians together with his so called "the boycott" by Israel of the Arabs when in fact he is well aware that these are all lies?.what would he suggests for Israel to do with an elected government who is committed to its destruction ? for a govt who refuses a public referendum for recognition and a peace treaty. ?tell us why if you have any sense of true justice ?tell us please and stop your nonsense once for all

  • 133. 0 0
    # 120 Gideon Levy
    • Elias
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:29

    Why is it that Gideon Levy cannot write a honest article to his readers and tell us if he agrees with the fact that had the Arab leaders accepted the 1947 UN Partition Plan we would have had 50 years ago 2 independent States: Israel and Palestine living together in peace and friendship with a booming economy,tourism and stability in the whole region of the Middle East .Why is it in his opinion the reason for the arab rejection of the partition plan? in the circumstances why is it that Levy bombards Israel with injustice,inhuman treatment of the Palestinians together with his so called "the boycott" by Israel of the Arabs when in fact he is well aware that these are all lies?.what would he suggests for Israel to do with an elected government who is committed to its destruction ? for a govt who refuses a public referendum for recognition and a peace treaty. ?tell us why if you have any sense of true justice ?tell us please and stop your nonsense once for all

  • 132. 0 0
    ADL Letter to British Teachers Union
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:13

    May 24, 2006 John Wilkin President, NATFHE 27 Britannia Street, London 16 Old Queen Street London WC1X 9JP Dear Mr. Wilkin: We write to protest the unconscionable resolution to blacklist Israeli scholars scheduled for consideration at your annual conference on May 27, 2006. The boycott is an assault on academic freedom. In contrast to the rest of the Middle East, Israeli scholars are politically independent. They teach in universities that are world renowned as centers of research and academic excellence. And, in a place where Jewish and Arab students study and live together, Israeli scholars promote peace and coexistence. A blacklist is not only deeply objectionable but undermines the prospects for peace in this troubled region. Moreover, by singling out Israel - the Jewish State and the only democracy in the Middle East - while ignoring massive human rights abuse elsewhere in the world, NATFHE is guilty of hypocrisy and double standards. We know that there are many courageous British academics opposing the boycott. They understand that if the resolution is passed, British universities will stand accused of the worst kind of hypocrisy, intolerance and discrimination. Anti-Defamation League

  • 131. 0 0
    re. Gerda Elata-Alster
    • saif
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:11

    betzedar.... but you forget that in whose favour was the partition .. if i want to come and partition your house now in jerusalem what would you say to that.... but ofcourse my granny might have lived there or so she thought.

  • 130. 0 0
    ADL Calls for Action Against Academic Boycotters
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:10

    Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement: The NATFHE boycott resolution resembles the attempts by Arab states following the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 to isolate Israel's economy from the rest of the world. Today, NATFHE seeks to isolate Israel's scholars. Under the guise of democratic values and academic freedom, NATFHE's boycott resolution codifies an illiberal, undemocratic policy that destroys the very worth of the academy as an open forum for the honest exchange of ideas. We now have an openly declared academic boycott of Israel in operation. Those who advocate a boycott single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring massive and genuine human rights violations all over the world, including Saudi Arabia, North Korea and Sudan, to name just a few. Those who seek to damage and discredit their Israeli colleagues with a blacklist must know that there is a price to pay. In normal circumstances, we are opposed to boycotts. But these are exceptional circumstances. Therefore, we call on the entire academic sector in the United States to cut funding, support and contact with any academic who advocates a boycott of Israel. The union's decision came despite an international outcry over the boycott resolution. In the lead-up to the conference, NATFHE's leaders received thousands of protest letters, emails and petitions, including a petition organized by ADL which carried more than 12,000 signatures.

  • 129. 0 0
    ADL Deplores Ontario Union's Vote
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:08

    "Once again, a labor union has voted to take the deplorable and offensive step of attempting to isolate and vilify the State of Israel while taking a strongly one-sided view of the conflict," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "While full of propagandistic hyperbole, the union's resolution makes no effort to reflect current realities on the ground in the region. There is no mention of Israel's unilateral redeployment from Gaza and proposed action in the West Bank, nor is there any recognition of the challenges posed by the terrorist group Hamas' reign over the Palestinian Authority and its refusal to recognize Israel's right to exist or to renounce terror."

  • 128. 0 0
    re.Jeff Northridge
    • saif
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:07

    hey man, howdy to you and ill bet you twenty bucks that the winners in the end will be the arabs. read the latest onion headline

  • 127. 0 0
    # 120 Mr Gideon Levy
    • Marrieta
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:06

    I put a bet for another 200 hundred bucks . Come on Gideon show us that you can take a challenge,that is if you are indeed reliable,fair and reasonable to your readers

  • 126. 0 0
    # 120 Mr Gideon Levy
    • Marrieta
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:06

    I put a bet for another 200 hundred bucks . Come on Gideon show us that you can take a challenge,that is if you are indeed reliable,fair and reasonable to your readers

  • 125. 0 0
    # 120 Mr Gideon Levy
    • Marrieta
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:06

    I put a bet for another 200 hundred bucks . Come on Gideon show us that you can take a challenge,that is if you are indeed reliable,fair and reasonable to your readers

  • 124. 0 0
    gideon
    • saif
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:04

    well whats going on there,,,,gideon with another of the illuminati of truth. preposterous but there are very few men on this earth who know how to speak the truth. the world is evil again and there are few takers of what is reality. the Messiach is coming. Yahwaah knows the tribes are evil now.

  • 123. 0 0
    gideon
    • saif
    • 04.06.06
    • 23:01

  • 122. 0 0
    119. Elisabeth
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 22:59

    Do you know why they identify the supporters of Israel as right wingers? They must think hamas and the other jihadists are lefties. I would like those people, rightists or leftists, supporting them to know what the islamofascists think about them.

  • 121. 0 0
    20. JOHANES Franzen and anti-Semitism
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:21

    Pal children are not taken to a dietist. When they held that children?s protest claiming they were angry, the protesters were not skinny. In any case, it was the pals themselves who launched a boycott against pal children and adults because they use the international aid to buy explosives with which to murder Israelis and also to put the money in their personal accounts. But no, it is fashionable for Judeophobic people to blame Israel even for the misery brought onto others by themselves.

  • 120. 0 0
    Mr. Gideon Levy: OK, And May the Best Man Win (Part III)
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:19

    Howdy Gideon; If the British academics want to shoot themselves in the foot by politicizing academic freedom, then that's their business. It looks like the "brain drain" in the U.K. has finally reached critical mass. If the purpose of a Western boycott of Israel is to "force" an end to the occupation, then why do it now? Israel terminated her occupation of the Gaza Strip last year and is preparing to end her occupaton of 92% of the West Bank within the next four or five years no matter what anybody says or does which is why most people in the West with any degree of common sense are not jumping on the boycott bandwagon. However, let's be fair about this. Let's have both boycotts fight it out simultaneously and see whether the Hamas-led PA or Israel is brought their knees first. My money is on Israel to be the one left standing. Do you want to bet on the PA because I have twenty bucks here that says that you're wrong? Come on. Be a man. Put your money where your mouth is.

  • 119. 0 0
    KUTW
    • Elisabeth
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:18

    Right wingers are against and left wingers are for Israel's survival. We are onto you KUTW and Halleluja to you.

  • 118. 0 0
    16. Rose: right-wingers and lefties
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:09

    Why do you suppose any supporter of Israel has to be a right-winger? Do you mean if you want to be a leftist you have to support Hamas?

  • 117. 0 0
    Mr. Gideon Levy's lack of objectivity is the issue!
    • Jacques
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:06

    His editorials are NOT unbiased! He has a myopic sense of justice. His 'logic' dictates that Israel is wrong because it is applying it's military might against a 'defenseless' population. The likes of Khalid would apply the same logic to illustrate their erroneously analogous comparison to WW2 Germany to present day Israel. To those people I have one thing to say: "Jews didn't pose ANY threat to the Germans, let alone kill innocents with the feeble notion of martyrdom!" Mr. Levy, you would have had my respect had you illustrated opposing points of view, or even taking a bird's-eye-view of the situation at hand. Case in point: the Canadian(Ontario) C.U.P.E. boycott(a sham!). Although they number approximately 450,000, they have very little support from the general population. They are the butt of jokes regarding their laziness, lack of work ethic, socialist conviction, you name it! It is sad. I've met many who are beautiful people with high morals and convictions, yet not enough to tip the boat. Mr. Levy, these are the same people who'd rather go on strike crippling a whole city/province for, what I'd call, selfish reasons(usaully labelled:Job Security. As if they can loose their job!), while causing mayhem to almost every man, woman and child. Let's not forget the millions of dollars, in economic collateral damage. Also, let's not forget who pays their salaries! These are people who care for themselves ONLY. They don't care for their next door neighbour, let alone Palestinians living thousands of miles away! Can anyone say HYPOCRISY? Mr. Levy, OPEN YOUR EYES!

  • 116. 0 0
    boycott Israeli academia.academiacs = Israel's boycott of Hamas g
    • Gerda Elata-Alster
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:05

    Gideon Levy, Does Israel's constitution (or what goes for it) include a program to wipe out another nation? I'm among those who support the establishment of a Palestinian State in the westbank and the concommittant evacuation of the Jewish settlers from there I cannot support the law of return, because that would mean the end of the state of Israel.I also believe that Israel has the right to defend it's existence. That Muslim hostility came in result of the 1967 occupation of Arab is a historical lie. After all, we were NOT in the westbank, etc. when we were attacked in the 1967 war. In 1948, Israel accepted the partition, the Arabs did not. The latters' hostilities against the Jews started in the 20ties - so? Those who like me support (and believe in the possibility if) a 2 state solution and scrutinize the actions taken by the government in respect to the Palestinians do so while living the full range of complexities and ambiguities, the dangers and the fears of our internal sit

  • 115. 0 0
    # 97 "Levy & Hass "
    • Leon
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:04

    I agree and I think they are both a real embarrassment to the normal readers of Haaretz.It is disgraceful that these two are still on the Staff of the Haaretz. Throw them out,we demand ! or let us all boycott this paper, NOW !

  • 114. 0 0
    13. David Howard: Terrorism, a human right
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 19:02

    I believe pressure on the pals is fair, since they are ruled by a terrorist organization. You say US taxpayers can demand why Israel receives money. Is this the reason why you support the boycott against Israel for defending itself? I rather support boycott against the pals. As a EU taxpayer, I don?t want my money to go to finance terrorism. So, from your point of view, to defend yourself from terrorism is against human rights. I suppose terrorism is defence of human rights. So do you agree with the terrorists flying the planes into the world Trade Center and the Pentagon?

  • 113. 0 0
    Ronnie Wolman
    • wibism
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:57

    "Does the Western World expect more from Israel?" Ronnie, you answer your own question: "We are democracy..." PS: I thought you lived in Canada? Free Palestine!

  • 112. 0 0
    Another Vanunu!
    • Sam The Sham
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:54

    Internationalism is today's equivalent of Communism. Today's ISMs are yeterday's fellow travelers. Blood is not thicker than water for this guy! If your own people can't trust you, who can? Selah!

  • 111. 0 0
    Moniroth You-Bell
    • wibism
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:54

    So you think the Palestinians should feed their own children? If Israel didn't continue to steal over 50 million dollars a month from the Palestinians in the tax money it "collects" for them perhaps Palestinians wouldn't be starving. Again it's all about stealing -- money and land. Free Palestine!

  • 110. 0 0
    # 1 "Levy is a fantasy "
    • Allegra
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:54

    Levy is certainly not a fantasy,his articles are deliberately insulting to Israel and the Jewish people.He is insensitive and provocative.

  • 109. 0 0
    Members of the ISM
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:53

    Another member hamas member was Tom Hurndall. When these events took place, a British suicide bomber hand mingled with the ISM members. Besides the ISM, a hamas branch, has hidden terrorists and weapons at their homes. Even so a soldier was condemned for this death. How many Hamas or other terrorists organization members have been punished for murdering Israelis?:

  • 108. 0 0
    Apparaently Levy thinks Judaism is Machochism
    • messy
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:49

    Moral responsiblilty? Moral responsabliity begins with one's family. If you think that fighting against your family on the side of groups who think you're subhuman and deserve nothing but contempt, you get that contempt.

  • 107. 0 0
    Moniroth You-Bell
    • Osborne Reed
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:46

    "Osborne, you still not reading the situation carefully. Most of us are not even Jewish." That is what I said. Thanks for coming clean on the matter.

  • 106. 0 0
    # 97 Alphonso
    • Rene F
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:45

    I agree " even then the Arabs would not be satisfied "they made it quite clear to us, it is our destruction they are after.The hatred they have against Israel and the Jews ,thanks to the contributions made by people like Gideon Levy & co,is so enormous that it is inconceivable to believe that we could achieve peace with the Arabs,certainly not in our generation.

  • 105. 0 0
    Mr. Gideon Levy: OK, And May the Best Man Win (Part II)
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:43

    Howdy Gideon; The West can get its aid to the Palestinians through the Office of Chairman Abbas, the U.N., the World Bank, and various NGOs--anything just so that Hamas can't get their paws on the money (the West has laws against tranfering funds directly to terrorist organizations). On the other hand, the proposed boycott of Israel is not supported at the governmental level (except for the Arab League, but they have been doing so since 1948 so there's no change there and none was expected). So far, the boycott of Israel in the West has only been supported by some far-left wing groups in the U.K., Canada, and the U.S. who (by doing so) managed to get their names in the newspapers for the first time in history. These are not the kind of people who normally buy large quantities of cut diamonds, computer chips, Uzi sub-machine guns, and Caterpiller tractors. Their economic impact on Israel is negligible. An academic boycott of Israeli professors is just plain stupid.

  • 104. 0 0
    Iran may drop the bomb by their Islamic teachings!!! Gideon STOP!
    • B. Schaepdryver
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:43

    We know that politicians and even religious clerics have a very professional way of playing with words and twist and twist them around until eveyone's head turns around like a spinning wheel with no notice anymore of where you are and where you wanted to go truly. Yisrael does not exist in their teachings and thus is it not wrong when they would use a nuclear device against Yisrael. This and I repeat, this is not against their Islamic teachings or the Koran in any way. The Palestinians have chosen for Hamas and thus for martyrdom. They have chosen for the bomb so to speak. Remember that the gospels branded us as arguing that we as Jews do say: We may not kill by our Torah, but the Romans could. Strange that they want the Christian world to be part of their tornado twisters. But this could clear up a lot of issues with just one single blow from the good side that is in all these headspinning reality TV shows if we proceed cautiously and carefully.

  • 103. 0 0
    Boycott against the root causes of Zionism
    • Gerda Elata-Alster
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:42

    And what ARE these 'rootcauses of Zionism"? G

  • 102. 0 0
    @ 77: JayUK
    • CHGODMK
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:29

    Wow, I know who you mean, but it actually like the Palestinians. Quite right!

  • 101. 0 0
    Osborne silly buggar, most of us are not Israelis or even Jewish!
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:27

    Osborne, you still not reading the situation carefully. Most of us are not even Jewish.

  • 100. 0 0
    # 51 Gideon misses the point
    • Joe S
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:26

    Gideon Levy and Amira Hass are both spreading filthy lies and increasing hatred of Israel and endangering the survival of our people in Eretz Yisrael. Boycott,Boycott,Boycott their paper and do it now!

  • 99. 0 0
    Boycott against Israel is Anti-Semitic
    • Michael Cunningham
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:26

    I can?t imagine how Gideon Levy equates the boycott of terrorists and terrorist groups with the boycott of Israeli academics and divesting from Israel. The Israeli government is not boycotting the Palestinians, only the terrorists. Secondly, boycotting Israel will in turn cause more economical harm to the Palestinian people. A strong and vibrant Israeli economy also benefits the many Palestinian and other Arab-Israeli?s. Perhaps Levy forgot the state of affairs in 2002 and how individual Palestinians who lived and owned businesses in Israel were affected by the terrorists? actions. Rachel Corrie was nothing more than an anti-Semite and the ISM was a front for Palestinian terrorists. Anyway, what Levy is oblivious to is that a boycott of Israel hurts the individual citizen including Levy himself.

  • 98. 0 0
    Adolph Ahasueras Sullivan
    • Margie
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:23

    You seem to be implying that the best way to root out Zionism is to root out Judaism completely. More evil brains than yours have tried this in the past.

  • 97. 0 0
    Levy/Haas,etc Represent 1% of the Population but 95% of Haaretz
    • Tod Zuckerman
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:22

    Jeez,it is tiring to read the rants of Jewish nitwits-especially since they are basically the same rants-every day. Levy is really strange-he thinks most of the boycotters like (or even love)Israel : what nonsense-they despise Israel, and the idea of a Jewish state is an anathema for them. Levy only needs to read the Talkback postings, since he is too lazy to research the issue. Finally, Haaretz should at least go through the motions of trying to be fair and balanced-hire someone (just one staff writer) who is not a numnuts.

  • 96. 0 0
    # 51 "to see the cause of justice " !
    • Alphonso
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:17

    What jnustice could it be when the elected government Hamas is not interested in direct peace talks or implementing the Road Map agreed upon with the former PA ? Only today we read in the papers that Hamas categorically rejected the proposed Referendum by Chairman Abbas and proclaimed the Ref as ILLEGAL .When it is clear to the whole world to realise that Hamas' ultimate's strategy is the total destruction of Israel which Iran is planning to achieve and said so repeatedly .When Israel in the absence of a willing party is trying to withdraw from the territories and yet they all criticise such a move.can anyone tell us what is there for Israel to do in the circumstances? other than handing over Eretz Yisrael, the whole country to the Arabs ? Even then,would you say the Arabs would be satisfied ? of course not,they had the opportunity in 1947 for a Palestinian state with the 1947 UN Partition Plan which the Arab countries rejected and their armies invaded the country to throw th Jews out.

  • 95. 0 0
    #72 Moniroth
    • Dav
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:12

    Silly China man don't know how to count. 1900 11,3 million 6 million died in KZs, 5 to 6 million survivor. So, the entire jews poulation was in KZs. From 1945 till 2005 the Jews poulation grow from 6 m to 14 million. Is this possible? By the way, the gas chember in Sachsenhausen was build 1946 by the Russians

  • 94. 0 0
    Zionism is a bitter fruit of Judaism
    • Esau Sullivan
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:11

    Zionism is a pernicious ideology that deserves boycott. However, lets remember where zionism comes from. It is an integral part of Judaism. Boycotts of the zionist entity address only the symptoms of the problem. Larger boycotts would address the root causes

  • 93. 0 0
    Ignorant Jews
    • Salonius
    • 04.06.06
    • 18:07

    The saddest part of this story is that many fellow Jews will only be able to interpret this as an assault on their world-view. Their inability to recognize that fellow supporters of the Jewish State can also rigorously disagree about how that state is conducted indicates their abject ignorance. 2000 years of victimization and diaspora is an insufficient reason to explain the religious chauvinism and the nationalist arrogance that typifies many of the remarks made here, in this forum. Many proud and strong Jews hold Israel very close to their hearts; nonetheless, they may also scream out at the deplorable way Israel has chosen to treat their neighbors. Until we behave justly, there can be no demand that others be held to a higher standard. No amount of rhetoric, from either side, diminishes the ignorance of an unequivical world-view.

  • 92. 0 0
    Well said
    • Jeremiah
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:57

    Bravo to Mr. Levy! It is the Jews who remain silent or supportive of behavior that is contrary to the ethical and moral traditions of Judaism that will be held to account.

  • 91. 0 0
    Mr. Gideon Levy: OK, And May the Best Man Win (Part I)
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:54

    Howdy Gideon; The Palestinian Territories have a population of 3.9 million, a GDP (purchasing power parity) of $2.6 billion/yr., and receive $2 billion/yr. in foreign aid (mostly from the E.U., U.S., UN, and Saudi Arabia). Israel has a population of 7 million, a GDP (purchasing power parity) of $140 billion/yr., and receives $4.5 billion/yr. in foreign aid and private donations (mostly from the U.S. and diaspora Jews around the world). The Palestinian Territories export olive oil, fruit, dairy products, terrorism, and suicide bombers. Israel exports, agricultural products, cut diamonds, electronic devices including computer chips, advanced medical equipment, some raw construction material, and military hardware. The boycott of the PA by the West is being conducted at the highest government levels. Its purpose is not to halt aid to the Palestinian people, but rather, to channel the funds through organizations which are not under the control of a terrorist group (Hamas).

  • 90. 0 0
    #83 dear paula and what about the jews???
    • paul harris
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:46

    DO YOU FEEL AS MUCH FOR THE JEWS DEPORTED FROM GAZA OR THOSE ABOUT TO BE IN THE WEST BANK ? DO YOU THINK ISRAEL CAN PLAY STRAUSS WALTZES AND SURVIVE ? ENJOY THE STRUDEL!!!

  • 89. 0 0
    two different boycotts
    • don
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:46

    It is rubbish to compare a boycott against a political administration and leadership with a boycott against universities which are part of the civil society. After all the English and Canadian boycott is not directed against settlers or the government but against people who may be intellectually working against the occupation. There only crime is to be Israelis. Just imagine a boycott against civil palestinian institutions. Just imagine what outcry we would hear if medical schools in Gaza would be boycotted. People would ask those who want such a boycott if they were racists and lunatics. Or what would we say if Serbian academics would be boycotted because of Milosevic, russian Universities because of Putin, iranian schools because of Ahmadinedjad, chinese artists because of crimes of the chinese leadership. Such boycotts which are not directed against the political leadership but against mostly critical intellectuals never can be justified.

  • 88. 0 0
    Nazis in 1940 had to be thanked on G. Levi"s Line
    • Jorge
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:43

    Always, on the sick mids of Jews like Mr G. Levi what happens to the Jewish people is their fault, so why not thank the Germans for the Shoa. I hope you publish these e mail as you publish all that hate mail against the state of Israel and the Jews

  • 87. 0 0
    The attacks against Gideon Levy
    • Osborne Reed
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:43

    "Send him packing", "blow him up","self hating Jew", "traitor", "Arab lover", "boycott Ha'aretz". I salute Ha'aretz for exposing these maniacs. Isn't it refreshing to know who's on the other side? I hope that Israel rid itself of these self proclaimed "friends" instead of welcoming their "support". Their aim is for Israel's destruction and for the return of Jesus, when you will all be made into good little Christians or die. Wake up Israel!

  • 86. 0 0
    #83
    • JayUK
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:39

    Well said! Writers like Levy and Haaretz itself go some way to counter the terrible impression which the Israeli government's actions are creating in Europe.

  • 85. 0 0
    to # 13
    • Watcher
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:36

    Well than, according to your saying nobody would come visiting the US!

  • 84. 0 0
    Moniroth You-Bell
    • Roger Bannister
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:35

    "The Gideon Levy is not my enemy, but I would smile if his Hamas friends blow him up in a matyrdom operation." Would you smile if the Israeli ultra right wing did it?

  • 83. 0 0
    @ 23: LEO
    • CHGODMK
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:30

    Are you saying that a fanatic is someone who doesn't agree with the journalists and is willing to speak up? So, would the right thing to do be for these people just to shut up because they disagree? Sounds like you're afraid of a little honest debate yourself--and that is another form of fanaticism.

  • 82. 0 0
    With a little help from the outside
    • Paula Abrams-Hourani
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:30

    I appreciate Mr. Levy's articles so much and consider him one of the great people of conscience of Israel. He makes me feel that there are still some in this militarized country who are not ashamed, and have enough courage, to defend human rights, who can empathize with the terrible suffering on the other side of the many walls of destruction which are being constructed by the State. As a Jew I should like to thank him from my heart!

  • 81. 0 0
    Jenna your response is lacking in knowledge.
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:22

    Jenna my dear, Clearly you are lacking in political, cultural and national and religious understand of the conflict. You like Gideon Levy see this complicated conflict in a narrow and simple romantic notion. Silly girl. I don't dispute that the Palestinians has injustice done to them, but they too are a players in this conflict. Their hands are like McBeth's, it cannot be wash clean. Look, you fail to understand, most of their leaders want Israel to be destroy, and the IDF and security forces must do everything in their powers to prevent that. Oh, the Palestinians did elect Hamas didn't they? How about those fine young men from the UK of Pakistani descent conducting a matyrdom operation in killing inoccents, presuming you think Israeli civilians are innocents. How about the other Islamic terrorist in the UK and Spain and in Bali? Come on girl, we are in a war not of our own chosing. We can run, but they wants us dead or convert to their pervert brand of Islam.

  • 80. 0 0
    Present-day realities
    • JJ Doyle
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:17

    The confrontation that is shaping up will pit the US, Canada, Britain, Israel, etc against a nuclear Iran, Syria, Hizbollah, Hamas. The Brit and Canadian unions will find themselves allied with the enemies of their countries. Not a good place to be, come contract-renegotiation time.

  • 79. 0 0
    Gideon hates the Worker!
    • FOX
    • 04.06.06
    • 17:14

    Gideon is one of our finest representatives of the religious Left. they are terriblty intellectual, they have no god, yet believe, (anal retentive) passionately, pseudo- spiritually in the spirit of creation and the kabalist molecules of Godlike energy that binds all of humankind to his sister who crawled out of the swamp. gideon in his patronist manner would be quite content seeing millions of Israeli workers, unemployed. He is seeking some bizarre self-humiliation, hoping that the world (which is better than he) will come to his aid by offering "tough love". Gideon, your pychosis are charming and marketable, have you thought of doing anymore chatty cooking shows?

  • 78. 0 0
    #68
    • Jenna
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:58

    the quote would be "Slience is condonation" condone: to forgive, pardon, overlook (an offense) No one is ignoring the acts of the terrorists. However, it is worth noting that the majority Arabs and Palestians are NOT terrorists despite the all that the policies of the Israeli government have done to create more terrorists. Do you not want peace? Do you not want to stop creating more terrorists? Do you not think that removing the "Palestian issue" (occupation, oppression) from the table of the terrorist propagandists would go a long way in improving Israel's position and promoting peace in the region?

  • 77. 0 0
    #39 Boycotts of other countries
    • JayUK
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:58

    Quite right! I posted a very similar comment to a talkback a few days ago but we wont convince these people. They want to be seen as the world's greatest victims, while simultaneously shouting abuse and threatening violence at anyone who criticises them.

  • 76. 0 0
    What do you want from Britain and Canada, Gideon Levy?
    • Ben Gurion
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:51

    "(NATFHE) in Britain and the Canadian Union of Public Employees in Ontario, which have both decided to boycott Israel, did not act similarly to protest their own countries' war crimes and occupations - the British army in Iraq and the Canadian army in Afghanistan." - G. Levy Gideon, you get so emotional that you weaken your own case with false "parallels". Do the British "occupy" Iraq and the "Canadians" occupy Afghanistan? The forces are there with the consent of the respective governments. Removal of the Taliban regime was done after they helped/sheltered the attackers of a NATO member (US). The invasion of Iraq was more problematic, but "sovereignty" was restored rather soon thereafter and foreign forces would leave if the Iraqi government wills it (or so they say). There is no comparison with the Israeli occupation of the West Bank. P.S. Given Israel's intent to "converge" out of most of the West Bank, I don't think the boycott is timely and sensible today.

  • 75. 0 0
    #33 Why read Haaretz?
    • JayUK
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:50

    "We are boycotting Haaretz" So why are you posting this to Haaretz? I only read newspapers which I think are sensible, yet so many people in Haaretz talkbacks say that they hate and despise the paper and in particular its columnists like Levy. Why do you waste so much time and effort?

  • 74. 0 0
    Gideon-YOU NEED HELP
    • Dr David I Gross
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:44

    Gideon Levy's schizophrenic view of Boycot's is truly frightening. Israel is not BOYCOTING a legitimate goverment - they are preventing terrorism within its borders. I dont see him calling Americas invasion of other countries to defeat terrorism a boycot - yet he labels Israel's attempts to protect it citizens as one. The best favour the BOYCOTERS could do for Israel is worry about their own country - and leave Israel alone. REMEMBER THE FALKLAND ISLANDS?

  • 73. 0 0
    Tim, you're dreaming!
    • Barbara
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:42

    Some British academics and a stupid union in Canada aren't enough to "force" Israel to sit down and decide to commit national suicide. Israel is always in a battle for survival against her enemies, including her enemies on the left. Whatever these jerks say about Israel, it will never be enough to get what the left wants. You're dreaming if you think these boycotts will have any influence on Israel AT ALL. Israel doesn't make most of her money from Brit academics or Canadian union workers.

  • 72. 0 0
    Dav-What is God's name are you talking about?
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:41

    Dav, what are you talking about? You silly buggar. I know how much the Jewish population is and how much were slaughtered by the Nazi and it's allies. I'm just saying that Gideon Levy would deny it happened if he was told of it straight after World War II.

  • 71. 0 0
    H50- You don't make much sense?
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:34

    H50, why are you attacking Haaretz? They got a mouth piece in Gideon Levy that is telling the whole world, Israel has no right to exist. ISM is a bunch of racist luny who hate Israel and excuses the Palestinians terrorism, this Levy have more creditbility than ISM.

  • 70. 0 0
    Thank you Mr. Levi
    • B. Michaels
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:34

    If Germany had 10% of its people hold your logic and your qualities and ethics, the Holocaust would never have taken place. I hope that Israel accumilates 10% of its Jewish population to defend the rights of the oppressed no matter on which side they fall, this is the only way to start the push and create the monmentum needed to lift Israel to a real positive standard in order to reign as a minoreh unto the nations. Thank you again Mr. Levi, I hope I can personally become as logical and open minded as you are. "B.Ms. The Jerusalemite".

  • 69. 0 0
    #8 Moniroth You Bell
    • Dav
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:33

    "This Gideon Levy would be the first Israel to deny 6 millions Jews were slaughtered if it was told to him in 19451" Israelis are not stupid and know how to calculate, Chinese man to. 19 00 was the Jews World population 11 300 000 The Nazis kill till 1945 6 million Jews and 5 to 6 million survivor The Jews world poulation was 2002 13 000 000

  • 68. 0 0
    How about the Muslim's world silent to terrorism on Israel?
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:29

    Huuuuummmmm. Silent is condemnation. This Jenna knows a lot. I wonder if she knows the attititude of the Arabs,MUslim's world and Lefties silents to terrorism against Israel, coming with excuse like the Palestinians have great injustice done to them ect. Or the Ilsamic leaders silent when Dr. Mathatir saying that the jews rule the world by proxy, thus causing all the misery in the world. Jenna, are you well read, or just got a big mouth?

  • 67. 0 0
    Chana
    • Jenna
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:28

    Once again, we are not commenting on an Arab/Muslin website, are we? We speak to our audience which is primarily Israeli and members of the American Jewish community. Speaking of which, Haaretz is to be commended for fostering freedom of speech in the diaglogues on this website. There is not much opportunity to comment on Al-Jazeera, etc.

  • 66. 0 0
    Liken the boycotts to an intervention
    • Tim
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:28

    Israel is an out of control bully, drunk with military power. And when that does not work, you strike out harder. What's happening now is like an intervention, with the world community forcing you to sit down and look at yourselves. And like any addict, Israel is lashing out at those who care.

  • 65. 0 0
    #51 CURIOUSLY GIDEON MISSES THE BIGGEST INJUSTICE!!!
    • paul harris
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:28

    the injustice meted out by all muslims to women and members of other religions COME ON GIDOEN AND AMIRA LET US SEE THAT YOU ARE NOT JUST RED AS RED LEFTIES !!!

  • 64. 0 0
    Levy
    • Gershon Ron
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:27

    Ladies and Gentlmen. To blame Haaretz for publishing Levy's articles is barking up the wrong tree. We should hear the other side, we want to know what they are up to. As for mister Levy, the world should ask from Israel to behave like the rest of the cultured world. Not less but also not more. By any mesurement of ethics or morality Israel is way ahead.

  • 63. 0 0
    Fress Press my foot. Haaretz censure!
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:23

    Gideon Levy can write all sort of rubbish, but if we condem him too much, Haaretz, lover of Islamic Terrorism, will censure us. But for Khalid and Mark Lincoln, and Johanes, Fress Press applied to them.

  • 62. 0 0
    Moniroth You-Bell, Ha'aretz encourages our enemies to lose badly.
    • Chana
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:22

    The left wing encourages the enemy to think they can win, which ends up giving them a false sense of confidence. Rather than being realistic about their chances, the Pals think they can't lose (thanks to the left who keep telling them this.) In the end, it will make the Palis lose horribly. What the left does is actually rather cruel to the Palis, but the Palis were going to lose anyway so it doesn't actually matter that much.

  • 61. 0 0
    The Arabs loves Jewish traitors.
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:19

    The Arabs loves Gideon Levy because he vilified Israel better than in any sermon in any mosques in any Islamic country, yet alone the UK, and France. However, those same Arabs and others like Gideon Levy, call the brave Druze and Beduins Soldiers of the IDF and Border Police, traitors, when those people are defending the like of Gideon Levy and safe guarding their own country.

  • 60. 0 0
    Where are Khalid, Mark Lincoln?
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:15

    They should be reading this and giving their full supports. I bet you this article will makes the round in Iran and other Islamic website dedicated to Israel's destruction. How would Israel survives if the IDF and police are full of Gideon Levy and staff of Haaretz?

  • 59. 0 0
    You're welcome, Haaretz
    • H50
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:14

    Dear Haaretz, I wondered why my comments from a couple of days ago weren't posted - now I know. You wanted to use them as the central theme of a story. No problem, you don't have to thank me. If you need further ideas, then please feel free to take mine. Start with the double standards of those who cheer the Iraqi occupation then demand British academics boycot their own country - how, by leaving? Then you can move onto house demolitions - the IDF stop house demolitions for a few months after every Jewish terrorist kills a few arabs, then restart the demolitions and only ever target Palestinians. Why? Shouldn't they demolish all the settlers' homes who participate in terrorism? (Ah, but the question is, shouldn't they demolish all the settlers' homes?) H50 P.S. James Miller was not a member of the ISM. He was shot while he was filming a documentary.

  • 58. 0 0
    #54 AND SO SAY ALL OF US !!!!
    • paul harris
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:11

  • 57. 0 0
    Levy and Aljazeera
    • Nora L.
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:11

    Gideon, Aljazeera awaits you with open arms. Show your true colours and sign up now. Why bring shame on Haaretz?

  • 56. 0 0
    Dear Margie in Tel Aviv
    • Moinroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:10

    Dear Margie, First, I'm an Australian of Chinese descent and a RP in Sg. Any person, using his freedom to express his opinion, in a widely read paper, especially internationally, will cause his country great damage. Don't you undertand that most people in the world truely believes that terrorism brought upon Israel, is Israel own's fault! Most people don't have compassion for those who got blown up in buses and cafes, yet alone the poor chickens by kassam rockets. Gideon Levy is legitimizing those terrorist attacks on Israel, because in his mind, Israel is always at fault, and her people deserve those terrorist attacks. He never condemn those peaceful terrorist, only try to understand why they attack civilians. He is a traitor and shame on Haaretz to give him a forum to damage and demonize your country.

  • 55. 0 0
    Jenna, speaking of silence...
    • Chana
    • 04.06.06
    • 16:03

    "Silence is condonation. We have seen that in the past, haven`t we?" Yes, we've seen silence when Jews were mass murdered for 2000 years (right up to the year 2006 when Jews are still being mass murdered for being Jews.) You certainly don't mind being silent about this, but there are actual MORAL people on this planet who know that the Palis have NO EXCUSES for their terrorism. All Pal problems are CAUSED BY their devotion to murder and mayhem, but I don't expect you to understand that. Why should Jews be allowed to save our own lives if it upsets anyone else, right? The sad thing for the terrorism supporters is that you're all on the enemy's hit list, too. The Palis blow themselves up in Tel Aviv these days amidst hundreds of thousands of liberals who can die randomly at the Palis' hands. Why do you suppose Palis want liberals to die?

  • 54. 0 0
    Chompsky intelligence
    • B
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:58

    Levy given a platform by Haaretz to write his false opinions of Chompsky intelligence shows the unintelligencia of Liberals. It is not a double standard for Arab Nations to boycott Israel for 60 years and complain of Israel's boycott of terrorist entities within its midst according to Levy intelligence. It is false for Israel to object to Canadian Labor unions and British Teacher Unions, and Church's to boycott Israel, ignoring their duplicity and twisted understandings of Israel and the hate and Intolerance created by the Muslim world. After the attrocities of Christian traditions the existence of a Jewish state free from Muslim hate and intolerance and terror should be prime objective of any true liberal.

  • 53. 0 0
    Journalists risk their lives in conflicts
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:57

    The IDF went to a house where they found a tunnel. While in the house, they were fired upon with an anti-tank weapon and returned fire. Then they found a wounded man in the street (he was James Miller). The soldiers gave him first aid and then took him to a military base, from where he was transported to hospital. Many journalists die in conflicts and, as far as I know, never a boycott to the country where they died has been launched. Homaira Usman, a location producer on films who had worked with him, , said: "James was a brave professional who risked his life?.

  • 52. 0 0
  • 51. 0 0
    Bravo, Gideon!
    • Jenna
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:52

    The responses to this insightful article are predictable. The deaf who refuse to hear and the blind who refuse to see. I am grateful to Mr. Levy for the strength of his conviction and his bravery for continuing to put unpopular truths out there. I am grateful to those heroes in Israel and elsewhere who risk so much to right a wrong and speak out against injustice whenever it is found. (Unfortunately it is found almost everywhere - why we need more voices!) I continue to believe that there many individuals out there that want to see the cause of justice served throughout the world, including Israel/Palestine, but who think they cannot make a difference or are afraid to speak up. Silence is condonation. We have seen that in the past, haven't we?

  • 50. 0 0
    Not Bothering
    • Admiral Adama
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:45

    I haven't even read this article and I'm not going to either, for I tend to avoid reading rubbish written by terrorist-supporting lefties. Thank you. And if Haaretz don't let this post through I won't be surprised...they're the same as Mr "I love Hamas" Levy.

  • 49. 0 0
    ?destructive? bulldozers,destroying terrorists? explosives
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:42

    The bulldozers were removing explosives which the terrorists would have used to murder Israelis. Rachel Corrie was a member of the terrorist organization hamas. She approached one of the bulldozers up to the point that the driver couldn?t see her.

  • 48. 0 0
    Israel's left wing is outdoing itself to campaign against Israel.
    • Chana
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:32

    Israel's left is afraid that Israel is doing too well (what with the economy thriving and the Europeans having second thoughts about supporting the Palis.) The left kept saving Arafat every time he seemed to be falling (until he was just dead and could no longer be saved.) Now the left wing is busy trying to do everything possible to help Hamas (just as support for Hamas is even crumbling among the Palis.) The left wing is very strange, indeed. It seems clear that the left wing sees Israel's prospects improving, though, or they wouldn't be trying so hard (especially on Ha'aretz) to work for Hamas. So I guess it's good news for Israel.

  • 47. 0 0
    Denis Starkman
    • Danite
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:31

    Without a doubt the whole human rights narrative is simply a tool to use against Israel and nothing more.Arbs have as much in common with human rights as horses have with flying.They are some of the owrst human rights abusers in the world and total hypocrites.Thanks for your comments.

  • 46. 0 0
    44
    • Charles
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:29

    Bravo Dennis. You hit it right on the money. Hey Lefties. A Free press. Do you understand that. I will spell it out for you. A FREE PRESS.

  • 45. 0 0
    #19 A WORMS EYE VIEW OF HISTORY!
    • paul harris
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:22

    DAVID CERTAINLY NOT THE KING OF ISRAEL! WHAT ARE THE DATE SAND HAPPENINGS FFOR THE TRASH CONTAINED IN YOUR ALLEGATIONS . 1948 ? 1967? 1973? 1992? 2006 ? ALL OF THE LAND IN QUESTION IS ISRAEL WHAT OCCUPATION ?

  • 44. 0 0
    To all those principled Anti-Israel self-righteous bigots
    • Dennis M. Starkman
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:17

    Publications such as Haaretz, which offer writings by authors such as Mr. Gideon Levy are possible only within complex, sophisticated, freedom-loving, and valiant societies. In my view, Mr. Levy is wrong and his writings not only astonish me: they infuriate me. However, they are proof of Israel's virtues, capacity for self-evaluation and freedoms. I oppose Mr. Levy's views, but consider it a blessing that he can write and publish in Israel. Have any of you visited sites as Al-Jazeera's? Your postings are rated and are always 'excellent' when they are Israel bashing, and 'very bad' when they are in contrast with the author. Your IP addresses are also exhibited. Try discussing any issue such as honor killings, female genital mutilation (Wrongly referred to as 'circumcision') and other subjects such as widespread corruption within any of the 21 and 1/2 Arab states. Go and then you can come back to suck up to our freer authors.

  • 43. 0 0
    Gideon Levy =nonsense
    • Danite
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:13

    I guess he cant tell the difference between people who plan and execute suicide bombings and academics writting research papers.

  • 42. 0 0
    WELL Said! SELF-Correction Is Always Best. Pt. 3
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 04.06.06
    • 15:10

    Israel's example is not one to be repeated! Or if one repeats it, one can expect one's own peril. No victim should squander the sympathy given it/its moral high ground! What could the people over there (and their supporters elsewhere) be thinking? What Israel/Israelis, etc. have done/are doing is hard to "wrap" one's mind around. I certainly would never do it. Finally-- I understand Mr. Levy's pain, "cry," and "call for action." He grieves for the lost soul of his country/his people. I see similar things in my country right now--in what we have done ourselves--in things like what we've allowed Israel to do. ALL of the Mr. Levy's in the world--in all relevant countries--need to issue their own "calls for action." Those of us who really value things like human rights, civil rights, ethics, character, integrity and simply "doing the right thing" are losing the battle. We "good men" need to do something--because "evil" is definitely triumphing!

  • 41. 0 0
    Franzen
    • Curious
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:59

    Franzen, as usual, lectures us about Israel's lack of morals while not condemning Palestinian terror and rejectionism. He has the temerity to talk about the lack of morals in the U.S. and Israel? Let's talk about Sweden. Free Franzen (from stupidity). By the way, "dietist" isn't a word, genius.

  • 40. 0 0
    SEE THEM SHUFFLIN ALONG ,DOWN ON THE LEVY
    • paul harris
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:58

    MORE ARRANT NONSENSE FROM RAMALLAH. ISRAEL HAS SUFFERED A BOYCOTT FROM THE ARAB LEAGUE SINCE 1948!! DESPITE LYING TO THE USA BY SAUDI AND THE GULF STATES IT IS STILL IN OPERATION TO CONFUSE STARVING OUT TERRORISTS WITH A BOYCOTT IS THE USUAL COMMIE POSITION OF BLACK IS WHITE AND ARABS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT . HAARETZ THE TEMPLE OF THE ABSURD

  • 39. 0 0
    Boycotts of other countries
    • True Brit
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:58

    It is wrong to assume that because actions against countries other than Israel are not reported they are not happening. Take the example of the National Union of Journalists (NUJ), they have a current campaign of boycotting Yahoo because of that company's collusion with the authorities in China in suppressing the pro-democracy movement. The same union is protesting against physical assaults on journalists in Egypt. I witnessed 2 weeks ago a protest against suppresion in China, in Whitehall opposite the entrance to Downing Street, not reported BUT it did happen and is continuing to happen. Anyone who visits London will regularly see demonstrations against repression somewhere in the World. If they are not reported the demonstrators should not be blamed,it is the editorial decisions of the media that are at fault.

  • 38. 0 0
    # 6 Haaretz
    • H. Bensaid
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:57

    Gideon Levy has the right to say what he thinks no matter how much he stirs more hatred against Israel and the Jewish people in general .We must not only ignore him & his partners but I personally think that Haaretz is a paper I am going to boycott.It has caused me a lot of pain to read the insults

  • 37. 0 0
    Shalom Friedman
    • Charles
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:48

    Your heart may be in the right place but you are dead wrong on this issue. Israel is a democracy which guarantees freedom of the press, speechand an independent judiciary. In spite of the vitriol coming from the left and as much as we conemn them they have every write to speak and express their views. To not allow that would be playing into our enemies hands. Israel is a standard that the world will never measure up to.

  • 36. 0 0
    WELL Said! SELF-Correction Is Always Best. Pt. 2
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:47

    But-- This has been/is Israel's choice. I have often wondered why a people who were so hated/underwent one of the greatest extermination campaigns in history (the Holocaust), would risk such a loss of status in the world/hatred again. Yet-- This has been Israel's choice. And for some reason--Israel/Israelis don't seem to get it. Don't seem to see/understand the overwhelming tragedy/irony of the choices they have made. The Problem Is-- "WE," the people of the world, get it! Israel/Israelis/Jews have had time to heal. Have had time to live up to their responsibilities and claims in the world. Have had time to see/act DECISIVELY and OVERWHELMINGLY to turn away from their victimization of the Palestinians. Yet-- Even now--they don't. All of the Nobel Prizes/accomplishments in the world apparently can't teach "common sense" or even a modicum of real "self-preservation." It's time to have sympathy FOR OTHERS now! Israel, etc. have wasted theirs!

  • 35. 0 0
    # 32 Democratic & legal ?
    • Berrouria
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:47

    Absolutely right ! Gideon Levy writes a lot of nonsense!

  • 34. 0 0
    Levy2
    • Charles
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:43

    It is a tribute to Israeli Democracy that Haaretz and Gideon Levy can publish and editorialize as they do. The fact that a nation under siege can have a free and vibrant press, an independent judiciary, witness the delays on building the separation fence as well as a vibrant legislature. You lefties who condemn Israel should hang your head in shame and all move to Zimbabwe where they will enjoy all the freedoms that they have in western countries and Israe. Ha!

  • 33. 0 0
    # 30 Gideon Levy
    • Neama & Sami
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:39

    My family and I agree with Isaac. what G Levy wrote is absolutely ridiculous,it made no sense at all. how can this idiot compares these two issues? definitely he is a disgrace to say the least. We are boycotting Haaretz

  • 32. 0 0
    Democratic and legal
    • Dan
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:30

    Even if there is some logic in some of Gideon Levy's arguments, there is one phrase that drives me up the wall: "Leaders elected in democratic and legal elections" (referring to the Hamas government). So, if these democratic and legal leaders claim that they plan to destroy us , do we have to respect it because of the way they were elected? And if, for example, the democratic and legal leaders of Iran pass a democratic resolution to bomb us with a nuclear weapon, because we have no place on Islamic sacred land, should we respect that too? Please reply, Gideon.

  • 31. 0 0
    David Howard - US commit human rights atrocities
    • Jabadini
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:28

    MOst of Asia, Africa, Russia, US, and most if not all arab/muslim countries commit human rights atrocities. So you are saying tourists shouldn't travel anymore?? Israel is Americas biggest ally in the middle east and has saved Americas ass numerous times. This money is only a small show of support for the problems that Israel has solved for the state. remember syria attacking jordan and israel stepping in to prevent a regional war. remember Israel knocking out a reactor in Iraq and then America attacking them 10 years later. Remember Russia having much power in this part of the world and then all these coutries attacked Israel. Israel wiped out their armies and Russian power diminished since then. There is much more and with the imbargoes and double standard US has had against Israel for decades this money makes us a pawn and doesn't help us in the long run. Maybe you should look at the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the US this is the danger in the region not Israel.

  • 30. 0 0
    Gideon Levy The hypocrite
    • Isaac
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:20

    How can Gideon Levy possibly compare the British Academic boycott with the Palestinian situation in the territories ? These are two entirely different matters ,of course but he pretends not to see it.why?it is quite obvious to all of us , considering his previous and other articles,the man,sorry not a man,the guy is definitely a confirmed anti-Israel in every respect and most likely has a chip on his shoulders .If he has any dignity or self respect he should get out of Israel and not forget to take with him Amira Hass,Laazazel!In the meantime I think we ,those of us who care for Eretz Yisrael,should definitely boycott Haaretz and I call this a wholly justified boycott

  • 29. 0 0
    WELL Said! SELF-Correction Is Always Best. Pt. 1
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:19

    There is nothing better than SELF-Review and SELF-Correction. Each person should engage in times of self-review and self-correction with themselves--to gauge their progress in certain areas--and specifically when it comes to one's values, behavior and action. This is also true for COUNTRIES--and for CITIZENS Of Countries. Israel has totally failed in this. Israel's Citizens have also failed in this. Sure--there are others who have lost their way (my country included)--as significantly. But-- Let's not use comparison (to others) to negate accountability/responsibility for one's actions. Parents don't accept this in their children. Citizens shouldn't accept this in themselves/their governments. And the world--shouldn't accept this in countries. If one fails ONE's SELF--because one refuses to engage in self-review and self-correction...then one IS at fault for opening one's self up to More Severe and Less Merciful EXTERNAL Correction.

  • 28. 0 0
    Levy Can you answer this questions
    • Aby
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:12

    Levy, I would like to learn What do you think about the following issues? 1) Israel should accept the right of the Pals people return ? 2) Should Occupation cease without an agrement to 1967 borders? 3) Are you the friend or the enemy of the state? Yes or no! I'm waiting your responses.

  • 27. 0 0
    Youbell in Singapore
    • Margie
    • 04.06.06
    • 14:04

    So because Gideon Levy is given free reign to express his own opinion, no matter how much it contradicts the well-being of his fellow citizens, you think that the state of Israel "has no right to exist". I suppose that Singapore can continue surviving only if everyone supports it all the time.

  • 26. 0 0
    Haaretz's Neccessary Viewpoint
    • Ronnie Wolman
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:54

    'The world sees a great and ongoing injustice. Should it remain silent? It is not, of course, the only injustice in the world. Nor is it the most terrible. But does this make it any less necessary to act against it?' The point is,why iS Israel being singled out here as opposed to all the Arab States,the African States,China et al??? Does the Western World expect more from Israel? I mean America has been under the microscope for Guantanamo and London for Abu Gharib.What western news service shows the Arab prisons or the Chinese prisons???? So is holding democracies to a higher standard,fair? Although checks and balances IS part of what democracy is about. So is it fair game? With a lifetime and several milleniums of anti semitism how can we not be sensitive? I think that Haaretz does a fine job of thowing this medicine ball around.It gets us to think,it gets us to look at ourselves. We are democracy and this is a fine checks and balances.

  • 25. 0 0
    Mr. Levy: Who chose the hamas government
    • KUTW
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:48

    It was the pals for a wide majority who chose the hamas government. When a person makes a decision, he has to be prepared to assume the consequences of their actions. The pals are very badly accustomed. They have been terrorizing Israel for years and this paid off. The international community flooded them with aid. Why should the pals change their ways if they get support and aid, no matter what they do?

  • 24. 0 0
    Johanese, the Arabs should feed the Palestinians!
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:30

    Johannes the Arabs are rich with oil money now, they should feed your Palestinians. But, I wonder, shouldn't the Palestinians feeds themshelves. They really can't have it both way, terrorism and earning your own living is a different thing.

  • 23. 0 0
    Fanatic Talkbacks
    • Leo
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:28

    It's extremely disgusting reading all the narrow minded talkbacks: people from all over the world criticizing articles by Levy, Hass, or other brave people who do not float like dead fishes with the stream. In fact, they constitute the moral reservoir of Israeli journalism, people who fulfill their task professionally and do not just quote the army's spokesperson. My congratulations to these journalists who force Israelis to confront with the atrocities committed in their name.

  • 22. 0 0
    Now all the vultures are here to lend G.Levy supports.
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:27

    Here they are now. Same story, Israel do wrong against the peaceful Palestinians who blown up people in buses and cafe.

  • 21. 0 0
    Rose Darling-I'm Chinese Australian
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:25

    Rose, get your fact straight before you generalise, you are not silly. I'm not Jewish and I am RC. Your Levy is vilified because he only speaks from one side of the coins. I'm outrage with his articule because he insult my intelligence, or do you truely believes Israel is the big bad wolf and the Palestinians are innocents victims. Victims don't creat victims, let alone terrorize others.

  • 20. 0 0
    Good points Mr Levy
    • JOHANES Franzen
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:15

    Taking the Palestinian children to the "dietist" and holding up foreign aid in form of food and medicine is an OK boycott (?), supported by the same bunch that is screaming anti-semites to those that advocate Israeli faculties to speak out against the vile occupation of the territories. Boycotting the occupied people and not the occupiers shows what a funny world it has become. Somebody wrote about US morals yesterday and I suppose they are the same as Israeli morals, non-existing. Those few brave voices that actually do speak out, and exposes the hypocracy practiced, shows that they are rather in a minority, but GOD bless them for doing so. Their names will be remembered and taught in history classes in the future, to show that not all Israeli Jews look the other way. Free Palestine!

  • 19. 0 0
    Levy is on target, the boycott should had enforced long ago
    • David Teshu
    • 04.06.06
    • 13:08

    The crushing of the Palestians, stealing their property, suspension of their human rights, the ever increasing brutality of the Israeli authorities (IDF and police) towards the Palestinians, caging them and strangling their economy - those should have encouraged long long ago the initiative to boycott Israel so as to encourage it to set the Palestinians free and retrive all that it has stolen from them, and of course compensate them for the almost 40 years of suppressed evolution potential and life of great misery. Had it not been for the extremely biased political backing and financing of the U.S.A. (90 Billion $ were burried at the occupied zones)perhaps saner countries could have collected courage long ago to help Israel get rid of the evil occupation that had corrupted its soul and darkened the lives of so many by producing so much suffering.

  • 18. 0 0
    Gideon my dear, the boycotts cannot be compared
    • Judith
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:56

    The Israeli/world boycott of Hamas is because they refuse to recognize Israel, and have chosen to continue the terrorist attacks on Israel until (they wish) Israel gets fed up and packs it in. The stupid boycotts of NAFTHE and the Ontario labor union are imposed by ultra leftist pro-Arab ignoramuses who want to claim credit for ending the Israeli 'occupation' of the west bank (if they know where it is). They are pretending not to know of Olmert's convergence plan and/or are reacting to his standing ovation speech in the American senate, which gave them a fit. If these marginal unions hadn't declared the boycotts they would still be living in oblivion. This way they get the attention they long for. When Israel finally withdraws, they will say: "See? Because of our boycotts Israel withdrew, aren't we all important and puffed-up". They want to go down in history as the ones who ended the occupation, pathetic.

  • 17. 0 0
    The Israelis themshelves are not upset?
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:44

    I wonder if the Israelis themshelves should be upset over this or not. If all the Israeli Media are like Haarezt and all Israelis are like Gideon Levy, the State of Israel has no right to exist.

  • 16. 0 0
    Levy is right
    • Rose
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:43

    so we see him villified once more. He is such an easy target for hardline rightwingers. It is much easier to put a blaming finger on an easy target like mr. Levy than it is to take a hard look at your own actions isn't it?

  • 15. 0 0
    Soon Khalid and Mark Lincoln add their support!
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:31

    Soon all of the haters of Israel, those who sincerely believes that Israel has no fight to exist, will give thier heart-felt support for this article. Gideon must hate Israel so much that he never onces put any understanding to his nation's plight. Haaretz, are you going to censure me on this one too?

  • 14. 0 0
    And it just gets worse
    • bruce
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:29

    The catepillar boycott was a classic. I remember one group who only boycitted this company after the "occupation" settlements in Gaza were destroyed. Their next major use is occupation settlements in the West Bank (depending on any arrangment to hand them over). "The world can help save Israel from itself in limited ways. In a situation in which the governments of the West effectively support the continuation of the occupation," This is priceless, what is the chance Levy opposes unilateral withdrawal. This would perepertuate occupation in all the ares where Israel plans to withdraw. All those who oppose this diminishing of occupation in the name of "opposing occupation", have the moral burden to find a realistic way to a peace now. But they have no plan, no realistic hope. Thus there objection, is the ambition to perpetuate the existing occupation.

  • 13. 0 0
    Meaningful boycott
    • David Howard
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:28

    I agree that international pressure on Israel is important. A targeted boycott makes more sense to me, however, than a blanket one. The Caterpillar action, for example, is excellent, and boycotts of products and services from the Occupied Territories are also important. SIngling out Israel for special treatment is distasteful, but there are other ways to express extreme displeasure with Israeli policies. US taxpayers, for example, can be demanding to know why Israel is the "singled out" recipient of so much of their money. Also, Jews all over the world can renounce privileges under Law of Return. Tourists should think twice about spending their money in ANY country that commits human rights atrocities.

  • 12. 0 0
    Levy
    • Charles
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:18

    Poor Levy. Always apologizing for the big bad Israelis. Rachel Corrie is a heroine! Would she have gone in front of a Palestinian bulldozer had the situation reversed itself? I doubt it. The Palestinians are perpetual victims and their victimhood is not their fault only the fault of the big bad Israelis who have the audacity to defend themselves. Something Jews dare not do. Takes away their right of victimhood.Would James Miller reported from israeli homes after a suicide bombing by the Palestinian lovers of freedom, religious rights and above all the rights of other religious groups.

  • 11. 0 0
    Levy arguement so weak, he has rearrange truth to make it
    • bruce
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:17

    It is not Israel, marginalising an enemy, it is global policy to marginalise terrorist groups. It is simply part of existing EU and US policy. If they did not apply it in the Hamas case - it would have been an exception to the rule. If Levy can name another country targeted by this academic group over human rights abuse (check the AI long list of offending nations), I would question my assumption that had singled out Israel. The whole premise of his line of thinking is distorted. And no, I did not bother to continue to read beyond the opening paragraph or two. It was so flawed in concept.

  • 10. 0 0
    inquiry
    • Steve
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:16

    Has Levy ever written a column either defending Israel's position or advocating a policy in Irael's interest? I've never seen one. He seems perfectly predictable, and therefore a great instrument for determining the appropriate policy for Israel. Whatever Levy says is right is wrong, and whatever Levy says is wrong is right. The government can operate on that basis.

  • 9. 0 0
    Roland from Poland&Levy:twopolacks bent upon Israel's destruction
    • Absolute Sweden
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:15

    Doesn't there exist some "Haaretz" in Poland Gideon could write for?

  • 8. 0 0
    The Iranian President favorite writer!
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:13

    This Gideon Levy would be the first Israel to deny 6 millions Jews were slaughtered if it was told to him in 19451

  • 7. 0 0
    Only ill-educated and the likes of Khalid and Mark Lincoln
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:09

    This Gideon Levy would defend Iran if it's lunatic Presidents decides to attacks Isreal with missles. Buy I wonder, would he blame the IDF (if one of the missle hits his house and family) for not shooting it down. Probably, Haaretz will censure this!

  • 6. 0 0
    Haaretz censuring policy!
    • Moniroth you-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 12:00

    Haaretz is out to protect their beloved Gideon Levy. Why can't we crtitize him with what we really feel. This guy do more damage to Israel than any other Islamic website dedicated to Israel's destruction.

  • 5. 0 0
    Hypocritical traitorous Levy turn in your Israeli citizenship
    • Shalom Freedman
    • 04.06.06
    • 11:54

    Double- standards. Gideon Levy pretends to be an Israeli. His total sympathy is with Israel's enemies. He accuses others of 'double- standards' and 'hypocrisy' when he is the biggest hypocrite of all.

  • 4. 0 0
    Please stop boring us with this Levy rubbish
    • Abi
    • 04.06.06
    • 11:53

    Will Ha'aretz please realise that the majority of its readership find Gideon Levy to be a boorish fool? I have stopped reading his articles and will probably soon stop reading Ha'aretz entirely since they keep giving him more and more freedom to write utter DRIVEL.

  • 3. 0 0
    Haaretz can't makes up it's mind. To be a news service or not.
    • Moniroth You-Bell
    • 04.06.06
    • 11:39

    It really baffle me, and even to Osama bin Laden and over the other dirty terrorist, to conclude if this entity Haaretz is their mouth piece or an objective news service?

  • 2. 0 0
    Double Standard
    • Roland
    • 04.06.06
    • 11:37

    Israel, views itself as above the law and it permits to istelf what it denies oters. Hats off to all the Israelis and Jews who see the ugly and brutal occupation and are doing something about it. Free Palestine Now!

  • 1. 0 0
    Levy in fantasy
    • LA
    • 04.06.06
    • 11:30

    With people like Levy speaking for Israel it's no wonder Israel has been in trouble since it's it came into existence. Perhaps when those Jews occupying Haifa and Tel Aviv are forceably removed from Palestine, Levy and his cabal will come out of denial and realize the middle east and Jews are not served by avoiding the realities of what peace means to Israel's enemies.