Wiesel: For me, as a Jew, Jerusalem is above politics

I feel great pity for any Hebrew for whom you are the prophet. Logios quoted the Bible, and you ask for artifacts? The definition of artifact is, anything made or used by humankind. The Bible is made by and used by humankind. The Bible, you dummy, is an artifact.

Your quotes of God are confused: In Genesis 15: 18-21 God said something like your quote. But he also said in Judges 2:21-23, IN THE FUTURE I WILL NOT EVICT ANY OF THE NATIONS THAT JOSHUA LEFT IN THE LAND WHEN HE DIED. But he didn't mention Jerusalem. The Jebusites, who built Jerusalem, and by many historians and scholars are considered the forebears of the Palestinians, inhabited Jerusalem when God said that, thus making it clear God did not give Jews all of Palestine, maybe not even Jerusalem. Jews have no legal title to any land outside the borders specifically detailed in UN resolution181, when Israel declared statehood. Israeli violation of UNSC 242, continued occupation of Palestinian territory, is a violation of international law. And, Jewish religious beliefs do not supersede international law. If international law had to conform to the beliefs of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Shintoism etc., there would be no international law.

When will it happen that we put aside our religious fables as a basis for human relations? All humans have a right to life and a homeland, regardless of the ancient books cited as proof of primacy and authority. All people have histories -- with virtuous acts to admire and other traits that are to deplored. We must seek common ground and move beyond the belief that one tribe has been chosen by God. Claims that 'we were here first' are just as pointless. If prior occupation were the only claim to territory, the United States should consider returning the land to those whom we managed to decimate.

Why did Wiesel choose to express his views in an ad rather than in an op-ed piece? It does rather detract from the whole exercise.

Jerusalem belongs to the lord G od. Any other claim is just BS

"Jews, Christians and Muslims are able to build their homes anywhere in Jerusalem"? Mr. Wiesel, I know you are 82 years old but surely you still do comprehend the concept of truth in advertising. Please share your research on how many building permits were issued to jewish, muslim and christian israelis and the muslim and christian palestinian inhabitants of Jerusalem. Tell me how many jewish homes were demolished and how many arab/christian homes were demolished in Jerusalem.

Why should America spend money and lives to defend an Israel that has no long-term viable policy to defend itself? Israel refuses a peace agreement that would foreclose the possibility of stealing more land from Arab familes who have lived there for centuries; so it unintentionally endangers the areas where Jews should (and will?) continue to live. It is surrounded by populous states that it encourages to become more revolutionary and anti-Israeli (Egypt, Iran, Yemen, Iraq, Algeria, a potentially ex-Saudi Arabia, others). Over time, these will become stronger and more unified against Israel, if that state maintains its current stance of moral arrogance, not allowing the obvious Israeli capital to serve also as the obvious Palestinian capital. Israel is now a liability rather than an asset to U.S. security. Elie Weisel now joins Nethanyahu in unwittingly preparing another (still avoidable) Holocaust. They do not serve "never again." A tragedy, and a mistake. A miscalculation.

What an absolutely stupid statement. "The majority of its (UN) members consist of oil rich Arabs?" Can't you read? Six members of the UN are Arab nations that produce oil. You contend that they determine the foreign policy decisions and voting records of the other 186 members because they produce oil? Are you crazy? Only one Arab state currently sits on the Security Council (temporarily). The Arab world hold less that 50% of the worlds oil reserves and 13.4% of gas reserves. Almost all oil producing Arab nations have no significant export product beside oil. The pressure is the other way around, you've got it backwards: if they don't sell their oil their economies will collapse so fast it will make your head swim. Go think of some other reason the international community is increasingly turning against Israel. Could it be because of Israel's violation of international laws, and in violation of more UN resolutions than any country in the world?

Galations 4:26 ?But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all?. Have you ever wondered why mankind is categorized into two nations, ?Jew and Gentile??. Why, because God has chosen Israel to be made ?a name, a praise, a honor and a joy among all the nations? !!! . Jeremiah 33:6-12Why because she will be the mother of us all!!!!.

I am a Christian who totally agrees that Jerusalem should not ever be divided. When are Jews or Christians for that matter, allowed to even visit Mecca (if they wanted to)? It is not up to the international community to decide, the choice is Israel's and Israel's only with no o, how can utside interference. People are too quick to meddle in Israel's affairs how can they understand her, they've never suffered a holocaust? My biggest regret is that I never visited the Holy City and now I'm too old but my heart is filled with love for Jerusalem and the people of Israel.

Joe may not know why, but the interlocutor who calls him ignorant because he thinks Jerusalem should be an independent city, has put herself way out on a limb and is sawing frantically. Most, in an effort to be polite, would refrain from calling that ignorant, but they certainly wouldn't consider it very smart. UN resolution 181, which provided authority for Israel to declare statehood, also declared Jerusalem an independent city, "corpus separatum," to be administered by the UN. Israel has no legal basis for sovereignty in Jerusalem. Its annexation of the city is a violation of international law, and its building, and altering of the placement of the population is a violation of the 4th Geneva Convention. Breaches of articles of the Convention are considered war crimes. I have thought about the chicken and the egg, and decided it is irrelevant and a non-sequitur. How long the city was Jewish is immaterial.

You should shift your research to the Hebrew Bible. There are numerous references in the Bible about the Jebusites building and residing in Jerusalem until David conquered Jerusalem after defeating the Jebusites. According to the Bible, the Jebusites inhabited Jerusalem for two centuries after Joshua's first encounter with them and David finally conquering the city.The phrase, state society is not in the Bible, nor do I understand its relevance. I have found no reputable reference to King David founding the city. In fact, Genesis 14:18 and Joshua 10:1 state clearly David did not found Jerusalem. What King David did with the covenant, and who destroyed the temples has no bearing on who built the city.

Firstly Smadar a very cogent and done so with such patience explaining the historical narrative to Ron,who constantly refers to the many who were in the Holy Land? I once said: Dynastis came and went,but Jews despite of their life long vicissitudes are still around. As for Logios: it looks like he has become an atheist.However,I wonder where his thoughts veer toward the Christian religion,who's followers are a higher number than Islam? Wonder what he thinks of Jesus? Was he a myth too? I speak as a lapsed Catholic,but would never question a Messiah,be it Jesus,or one expected as yet by Jews.

When you say Jerusalem should be an international city? Methinks your ignorance is showing.If it was not international,then how do you justify the many churches,and surpassing them: The far greater number of Muslim Mosques? Look here,no matter what the author of this piece says( RIGHTLY SO TOO) Jerusalem is Jewish for we have a great many centuries before Islam was even thought of. It is like the saying:and accurate too.i.e What came first? The chicken or the egg? Think about it

Briefly put:Jerusalem is the Heart and Soul of Jews/Judaism.It is our inheritance not to abandon it EVER. Wise and true words by Mr.Wiesel. Good post Chaim Ben Kahan

I am a Christian but the Vatican is not mine - I am not Roman Catholic

David when you say Ban is one of the worse anti-Semite? Well,aren't they all? Frankly at first I thought oh a S.Korean will be good for Israel. Alas,alack no such lcck same as the previous ones who follow the dictums of the ARABS. No change whatever.Kofi Annan too was no better. None in the UN establishment are.The majority of its members consist of:Oil rich Arabs(who rule the roost),dictatorships(who should not be allowed)In brief the UN should be dismantled as soon as possible. They treatIsrael with disdain whereby our representatives there are verbally attacked. I say,why should Israel be a member of that dreadful place.I see no point in it at all. The day will come (I hope)that a genuine and unbiased Secretary of the UN to replace the Ban and ilk.Further as I said above:Dismantle the whole structure filled with ANTI-ISRAEL and its hateful members will thus diasppear from the horizon.

Not once is it explicitly mentioned in the Torah. Yet Wiesel attaches more significance to other works. So the Quran and Torah have more in common on Jerusalem than Wiesel would have us believe. Of course as in Jewish scripture which supposedly post dates the Torah, so it is with the hadiths. They too make many references to Jerusalem.

why limit one's history to 60 yrs? jews have been native palestinians for 3000 yrs!. jews may have been forcefully removed from israel but have never and will never forget jerusalem. the answer is for both palestinians and israelis to recognize each others rights and suffering.

when muslims conquered constantinople, they converted haga sophia to a mosque and wiped out christians from that city. its funny christians and the international community have no views on constantinople!! oh wait. the muslims are now agitating to pray in the church of cordoba too! again the international community has no views on it too!

What an embarrassing display of self-aborbed narcissism.

Muslims can build anywhere in Jerusalem! And what about the demolitions , displacements and destruction of fields by the Israeli government and the armed settlers ? Wiesel must be speaking about some other place not Jerusalem.

As much as I respect other religions I do not think that because the Christians decided to build a church over the temple mount and later the Muslims decided to build a Mosque over the Jews holiest, most spiritual Temple does not mean we must respect the fact they took over OUR holy site and claimed it as their own. Jerusalem was a Jewish city way before Islam or Christianity existed and being how many nations these other two religions control through their history of violence and forced conversion have I do not see why we must hand over Jerusalem as well. Christians have the Vatican, Muslims have Mecca and Jews have Jerusalem. If they want to share the Vatican and Mecca with the Jews perhaps that would be fair but until then Jerusalem will remain part of Israel the Jewish state.

By "international community" who do you mean? Do you mean the U.N.? The biggest international anti-Semitic organization in the world? The same one that is "administered" by Ban Ki-moon - the biggest anti-Semite in existence? The same guy who censured Israel 5 times for "human rights violations" since he took office but has never - EVER - censured an Arab nation - including Iran? Is that the international community you're talking about? Please.

The Holocaust destroyed Weisel's belief in God and humanity, the occupation is destroying Israel's soul. In the 70's the entire country was outraged when Shen Bet assassinated a Palestinian infiltrator after photos showed that he was caught alive. Today, no one seems to care when the IDF carpet bombs Gaza or Lebanon to smithereens. This is not a war, it is a war crime. Where is Israel's soul? Is it hanging from the same gallow as Weisel's God?

as the capital of a nation, the Israelites, during the emergence as a state society for both political and religious purposes, was founded by King David and not the tribes of the Cannanites, Amorites, Hittites and Jebusites. The region may have been inhabited by them before, but not as a state society. King David brought the ark of the covenant to Jerusalem to signify the religious capital and the political capital for the first time for the nation of ancient Israelites. Why then were the First Temple and the Second Temple destroyed? These were the religious institutions of the Jewish state over thousands of years ago. As far as DNA relations of Jews to Palestinians - the current Orthodox Jewish research affirms the connection which I've read and heard. Correct.

If Elie Wiesel -- the putative spokesman for victims of oppression -- thinks the expulsion of Arabs from their Jerusalem homes is "above politics," then his role in this sorry history is beneath comment.

Mr. Weisel is clearly not telling the truth when he said that Jerusalem was not mentioned in the Quran. He is also very far from telling the truth when he said that only under the Israeli occupation there is freedom of religion in Jerusalem. As a Palestinian, I was denied entry to Jerusalem and the right to worship for the last 10 years. If Mr. Weisel means well and abandons his love for real estate, he should demand the sharing of Jerusalem and the cessation of the colonial Israeli expansion in Palestine. Unfortunately, Mr. Weisel proved that he is unworthy of the Noble Peace Prize that he received. He is a Jewish Supremicist who never spoke against the Israeli oppression of the Palestinian people.

The practicalities of the moment , the flow of political history will decide the fate of Jrslm, now. But the insistence both public and private by people who think propudly of themselves as Jews that Jrslm is for JEWS is a powerful uplift for Jews. For with one simple statement Jews remind others that neither Titus nor Saladin ( the first Moslem conquror of Jrslm) managed to deny Jews that which Jews claimed to be theirs permanently. It puts , subtly ,the onus on Christian and Moslem court historian to review the slander they were paid so well to commit on behalf of power.

Orlando Bloom (a Jew) in the movie is the leader of the christians, muslims and jews etc sieged in Jerusalem, meets Salah-addin to talk about a truce. He says - I am going to destroy Jerusalem stone by stone, instead of surrendering it to you - and Salah-addin replies - I wonder may be it would be better so there will be no more killing for it -. I wonder too.

community? Where where you and your international community during WW2 or even better during the last 2000 years of progroms and mass murder on jews? Shame on you and the international"...." whatever you call it. I call international swines!

with absolute certainty, that " there is no Moshaich. It is a myth" ? Well, we have throughout Jewish history debated the meaning of what Moshaich entails and what will happen when Moshaich arrives, according to the Jewish faith. But to dismiss completely Moshaich just like that is somewhat dismissing the very existence of the Jewish people and Israel. For some, the meaning of Moshaich's arrival really entails a sense of hopefulness and peaceful coexistence on earth. For others it's precisely as in the Torah. BTW Just brainstorming here, but what would you say about the most contentious territory of the Temple Mount that instead of internationalization since many are against this, a duplex property ownership/sovereignty arrangement, so the Jews have below the Mosque jurisdiction and the Muslims (Palestinians) have jurisdiction above where the Mosques remain? Just an idea because I'm thinking of the stratification of the ancient Jewish archaeological sites within its proximity.

besides Barack Obama still take this blowzy, sanctimonious charlatan seriously? Because Jerusalem is "in his heart," the Palestinians should pack up and quietly leave. Wiesel has proclaimed himself as a grand guru of suffering (nobody understands and can score it on a scale of 1-10 quite like him). He will tell you how his heart bled for the suffering children of Biafra, but if he has commiserated with starving Palestinian children, it has been buried somewhere on page 23.

Unfortunately for your thesis, what you feel (as a Jew or anything else) entitles you to nothing. The only thing that entitles you is rights, and being Jewish doesn't entitle you to more rights than being Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or anything else. As a human being, you are entitled to everything every other human being is. As a Jew you are entitled to nothing

A cuccint reply: Not a think I am sure. Amazed at what you wrote on JEWISH numbers were it not for the (HOLOCAUST)? Yes most probably.I had said at least 60/70 millons at least.You gave me food for thought. T.A

It's American zionists (including zionist Jews and zionist Christians -- and some Israelis) who have bought Congress. A great percentage of American Jews are ticked off with AIPAC and the zionist lobbies.

You are not even worthy to kiss his feet. Let alone writing a letter,whether paid or unpaid,you have been insulting to the man who was/witnessed,The Holocaust.Waiting for Messiah? You forget that most Israeli Jews are secular,BUT very patriotic to their TRUE country called Eretz Yisrael. By the way,how is,Ben Gurion(I hope you will not descend to disturb again)! Stop your nonsense,for it will hurt your health anding up in hospital once more. Be careful what you say..

My conclusion is:He loves to be controversial his traits have not changed over the two+ years since he was here. The man is a megalomanic,Jewish? How could he. I know someone who referred to him as an Arab. A couple of years ago Best thing for people is to ignore his knowledge on the Torah,Talmud he used to harp on constantly.If he knows so much it would behoove him to be more amenable? That he will not is his problem not ours. However,harzion you allways come up trumps in all your posts that are bitingly sharp,concise and to the point. Was very appreciative on the forum "American Jews" etc.Sent a couple of congratultely to your self,but Haaretz ignored them. If one remembers the varied monikers he used to use? Not content to take the name of Israel's Prime Minister(Ben Gurion)went further and used: Ben Gurion's father's name. There it is,but you most probably know it. T.A

and therefore should be an international city of peace. Not one of the three major religions has trump over the other. Zionist political aspirations should have no say on Jerusalem. Turn the city over to the U.N.

The Wiesel family, of religious and even Hasidic stock, stayed in Hungary rather than try to return to Zion and help build i,t, not following the vision of another Hungarian Jew, Theodor Herzl.. It didn't matter to them that Zion is mentioned so many hundreds of time in the Bible, they preferred the Hungarian reality. Of course, I don't blame Elie Wiesel for this; he was not old enough to make such a decision. But then came the Holocaust, and the Nazis shipped Elie out of his town to Auschwitz. That reality was not comfortable at all. Miraculously, Elie survived the ordeal. so where did he go then? Not to Zion, but settled in France. Let us say that he needed some time to recover. But in 1955, 10 years after the War, Elie was ready to move on, so he went to the.. US and settled there for good even though that country is not mentioned even ONCE in the Bible. Elie, you know exactly the difference between dream and reality. The dream could be fantastic but YOU followed reality and not the dream. Aren't you ashamed of yourself? For the sake of your dream you are willing to deny others (the Jerusalem Arabs) their reality, as long as nothing interferes with your own comfortable reality.

Since Jerusalem's belonging to the Jews is mentioned countless times in the bible, even an atheist can see who made it what it is, the Jews. any claim that non Jews have on Jerusalem is plagiarism. Like saying that any physicist who teaches E=MC^2 shares credit for Einsteins discovery. Indeed there are billions of plagiarists in the world

If everyone had thought like that ("something that is holy for ME is above politics" - no compromises possible), the world would not be a nice place to be.

There is only one problem with your thesis about Jerusalem. Jews didn't build Jerusalem. According to the Hebrew Bible, the semite tribe, the Jebusites, built Jerusalem. When Israelites crossed from Jordan into Canaan, known also as Palestine, the land was occupied by (among others) the semite tribes, Amorites, Hittites and Jebusites. The Jebusites had built Jerusalem and inhabited the city for over 100 more years after the Israelites arrived. Many noted scholars and historians have determined that the Jebusites are the forebears of Palestinians. The NYU School of Medicine and the Academy of Science discovered that ME Jewish men have a common genetic signature with Lebanese men, Syrian men and Palestinians, and with no other non-Jews in the world. It is good of you to say: "If you build a city, it should belong to you." But the Palestinians don't claim the whole city their forebears built, they just want a small part for their future capital, if the Israeli occupation ever ends.

surely it is the middle eastern peoples who are the fanatics? 1 iran cooks elections and shoots demonstrators. 2 iraqi killings by all factions have reached the depths of hell. 3 algeria killed 150000 of its own people. 4 syria killed 20000 in hama 5 saudi beheads people in public. mohammed maleck i am not seeking to make enemies.i ask how you do not see the truth.

hassan my friend are our "atrocities" worse then yours in iraq?the merciless killings have made hundreds of thousands perish. every day you kill more in suicide bombings in iraq.so who can believe your posts when you complain about the jews?

"What do Jews owe to the `International Community`? What you owe the international community is the fact that you have a state. It was the international community that backed the formation of the state of Israel. Many in the international community have supported Israel for years but now many in the international community are rightly fed up with your policies of occupation. You need the international community and if you keep on offending the international community you might just be cut off. And then you will really be moaning and complaining.

and polictics and Israel ....

You declared Jesus Christ was known as "the fighter," "an activist" and a "gun runner." I requested you provide some biblical or scholarly reference to your claims. I'm still waiting. Do you have them? or are a Talmud scholar, or a zionist provocateur?

"american jews have bought congress". that you do not understand why you should not use this atrocious language says more about you then we need to know.

It is obvious that the so-called true "Lord" or "G-d", depending on which story (like Mr. Wiesel) you heard. None are correct or true. However, if you live here and are witness to the constant and gradual decay of both societies(Jew and Muslim), you can perceive a deliberate hand at work, ever so slowly(some 60 years), pushing and guiding us to a mutal abyss/destruction. As guardians and caretakers of this once beautiful and bountiful land we are failures in the eyes of the Almighty. He/She/It has declared "so be it" and is sitting back and allowing us all to plunge over the cliff into the depths of human despair. What a shame that so much promise was wasted on the wrong peoples. Next time, I believe the choice will be better and the mistakes will be corrected. Again, I believe.

you may think of yourself as jewish but to you judaism is no more then a carpenter's feeling to the wood he uses.you are clay.if jewishness has no heart stopping yearnings and poetry for you then you live in a different world to most jews. there is no possibility for you to understand what jews feel.it is either self evident or it is nothing.

v This period of quiet -- no suicide bombers and qassams -- is the last chance for the 2-state solution. The Palestinians will not settle without the Arab neighborhoods as their capital. Ellie, don't insult Islam by telling them what the Koran says. Do they have the right to tell us what Torah means? You say its above politics when you are really saying that political power must always be in the hands of Jews. If you and Israel want peace, East Jerusalem is not too high a price to pay. Otherwise, tell the truth -- Israel has annexed all of Palestine and it is already part of a bi-national state, albeit an apartheid one.

it was originally built by the caananites...so get over yourselves

So, then, Issac, Israelis in J'lem will live on while the rest of the world perishes? Your US "Christian" Zionists (whom you probably like) say the opposite: At the second coming all Jews but 44,000 will perish and.....you know the rest. Please read Shlomo Sand's book about the Jews and the (Dis)continuity of the Jewish people. The so-called "long" history of the Jews exiled from J'lem and now are to be gathered back is myth--all myth. The international community which GAVE you a country and part of J'lem will certainly decide that it is the Green Line or else.

Lisa, you are mistaken in just about everything you claim. Of course there are Israelis who are not Jewish, but they are not "equal" either by law or in practice in Israel. There are many Jewish Palestinians. (There are also over half a million Jews living in Palestine illegally, but that's another story) If Christians control Christian religious sites, how is it that IDF soldiers prevented Christians from celebrating Holy Sunday at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre (site of Christ's crucifiction) last week?

...so of course. Israel does what it wants. And no power on earth can do anything about it. Great having G_d on your side. The rest of you don't stand a chance.

No one in Israel has ever suggested Jerusalem is only for Jews. Witness the fact Israel respects and protects Christian & Islamic religious sites and that people adhering to different faiths live in Jerusalem. Such was not the reality under Jordan or Arabs in the past.

If Jerusalem remains Israeli, it will not be solely Jewish. There are Israeli Christians and Muslims living in Israel and in Jerusalem. On the other hand, any section of Jerusalem which becomes Palestinian will be Judenrein and possibly Christian free as well.

Although it's smart politically to share the city the Christians and Muslims really have no claim. The only reason Jerusalem figures in their religions is becuase it was the holy city of the Jews. If some tribe in the Amazon started worshipping Abraham Lincoln as their profit would that mean that they have an equal claim to Washington DC as Amercians?

The Bible itself tells some history of Jerusalem before it was conquered by Kind David around 1000 BCE. Genesis 14 tells of a meeting between Abraham and Melchizedek King of Jerusalem: "And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram to the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he [Abraham] gave him tithes of all." Note that Abraham recognized Melchizedek's priestly rank and gave him a tithe. Later in the Bible, with Jerusalem under Jewish rule, the historical figure of Melchizedek is still remembered. In Psalm 110, in what is thought to be a declaration during the coronation of the King, the MC (Court prophet?) declares "The Lord has sworn, and will not repent, You are a priest for ever after in the manner of Melchizedek." It shows reverence for the pre-Israelite king of Jerusalem. Jerusalem did not start as a Jewish city, and there is no reason why it should end up as exclusively Jewish. Sharing it with the Palestinians who see themselves (justifiably) as descendants of the early residents, and view the Islamic religion (unjustifiably) as the religion of Abraham, will be historically correct and politically smart.

"Why tackle the most complex and sensitive problem prematurely? Why not first take steps which will allow the Israeli and Palestinian communities to find ways to live together in an atmosphere of security. Why not leave the most difficult, the most sensitive issue, for such a time?" - Wiesel The attempt to delay the inevitable is the worst part of the Wiesel letter. The Palestinians are under occupation for about 43 years now, which is also the time Jerusalem was "united". Jerusalem was "united" under "security" for most of this time. Nevertheless, Jews and Arabs don't like to live together. So please stop the fantasy, Mr. Wiesel. Even if Jerusalem is the most difficult issue, the time for discussing it has already come. The other big issues are practically all resolved: Refugees - only a symbolic number will return to Israel. Territory - subject to some territorial exchange, some 98% at least will go the the Palestinians (as offered by Barak and Olmert). You can't wait until Moshiach comes because there is no Moshiach, it is only a myth, regardless of what you find in Rebbes' sayings. Time to move on, Mr. Wiesel. And instead of criticizing your President Obama, better criticize our the Israeli PM Netanyahu who only wa nts to delay, and delay, and delay, and..

how do israelis claim the land as "theirs" when we ancient palestinians were living between the river and the sea for centuries prior to the arrival of abraham and his mesopotamiam entoruage? honesty and the rule of law are important.

I have the solution; lets (USA) take the leadership role here and offer Washington DC as a homeland for the Palestinians. I?m sure the APN could convert their National headquarters into condos to house several needy Palestinian families. For me a Christian I also say Jerusalem is above politics.

If Palestine ever comes to be, there will be no Palestinian Jews and Fatah/Hamas are working hard to rid themselves of Palestinian Christians. In Israel, there are citizens of all three faiths. Christian authorities have control of Christian sites. Muslim authorities have control of Muslim sites and Jewish authorities have control of Jewish sites. Compare that to the treatment of Jewish sites under Jordanian rule and it becomes clear who is fair and who is not.

first it was lauder, now it's wiesel..who next? what is it with prominent jews suddenly starting to take full page anti-Obama ads in the press?

not hilary.not obama not brzezinski not scowcroft not saudi not syria not abbas or anybody else is taking jerusalem from the jewish people.jerusalem is zion.

If Jerusalem is above politics, then this joker should be pressuring Israel to stop creating political facts on the ground of Jerusalem, and to enter into a sincere negotiation which respects the rights of both parties. And please stop reminding us that he is a Holocaust survivor and Nobel laureate, because those labels are somehow diminished when repeatedly associated wit the likes of him.

Elie Wiesel seems to remember the God of Abraham only when it suits his needs. Here are a couple of quotes about his God. "Never shall I forget those flames which consumed my Faith forever. Never shall I forget that nocturnal silence which deprived me, for all eternity, of the desire to live. Never shall I forget those moments which murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to dust. Never shall I forget these things, even if I am condemned to live as long as God Himself. Never.... -- Elie Wiesel, Night A voice behind me asked, "Where is God? Where is He? Where can He be now?" and a voice within me answered: "Where? Here He is -- He has been hanged here, on these gallows." -- Elie Wiesel, Night

The cracks in th wall that covers up Israel's abuse of the Palestinians have become increasingly apparent. The panic reaction in the form of a series of advertisements in the Washington Post was unremarkabley lame. The latest is Elie Wiesel. Mr. Wiesel has risked his reputation with a mutitude of falsehoods about the current situation in the occupied territories. Muslims and Christians in the West Bank do not have access to their holy places not even on Easter or Eid. Palestinians can not live and build anywhere in the West Bank or Jerusalem, Jews did not have access to their holy sites under the babylonians exile as well as the crusaders. Finally, to bring the God of Abraham into the mix is the ultimate hypocraciy. He admitted that his God died on the gallows of the holocaust. Here is a quote regarding his God. "A voice behind me asked, "Where is God? Where is He? Where can He be now?" and a voice within me answered: "Where? Here He is -- He has been hanged here, on these gallows"

Two points, simply stated without Weisel's pompous piety. 1. Adherents of Judaism did not found Jerusalem. It existed for perhaps 2700 years before anything we might recognize as Judaism arose. Jewish rule may have been no longer than 170 years or so, i.e., the kingdom of the Hasmoneans. 2. In 1948, the UN General Assembly made a recommendation for a three-way partition of Palestine into a Jewish State, an Arab State and a small internationally administered zone including the religiously significant towns Jerusalem and Bethlehem.

Because I accept the word of the Bible I support Jewish ownership of Jerusalem which will be there fully united long after Obama's gone, if that is as it appears to be the wishes of the Lord.

The international community voted for Israel's creation at the UN, but now the "international community can go to hell"? Logic that is not impressive or consistent.

Being fathered by a 13 yr old must have been quite odd.

"the international community can go to hell." we shall see how much is the international community willing to do for israel.

You are mistaken. Jordan did not choose to be attacked. In fact both Syria and Jordan had initiated attacks against Israel in 1967 due to an alliance with Egypt. Israel had taken out Egypt's airforce base in Sinai, but it had not directly threatened Syria or Jordan. Please don't post without being informed as ignorance is dangerous.

There is hardly a structure standing in Jerusalem that was built by the Jews. A few crumbling walls, that's all. You are trying to erase the city's Arab legacy.

From the Romans to the Greeks contribution to science, architecture, art, democracy, republicanism, etc. Not sure what your point is...do jews belong in the US or Europe because they are guests to cities built by the Christians or Celtics?

The Nazi Holocaust atrocities do not provide any link to the Jewishness of Jerusalem. Your abuse of the Holocaust for religious and political purposes, which is a rape of the suffering of Mr. Wiesel himself, in order to claim Jerusalem, dehumanizes its other citizens (the Palestinians) and is in essence not different of what have been done to Jews in history. The world stays silent over a lot of atrocities: Darfur, Congo, Zimbabwe, and the occupation by Israelis of the West Bank. And what do you do? You do the same, you are silent, or fanning the flames of hate. If you really want to avoid a repetition of the Holocaust, fight for a Jerusalem that is a beacon of humanity, for all people, for all religions, because dare to remind you that Mr. Jabotinsky c.s. had good contacts with and admiration for the Nazis and their ideology?.. Dare to remind you that around 60 million people died in WW II, in the end defeating the Nazis?. Dare to remind you that Israel occupies for 43 y now....

It is amazing to me, the idiotic responses from people who have not even bothered to read Elie Wiesel's ad. Apparently, the need to show one's political standing or mouth off supersedes the need to be informed. Maybe these same individuals should take the same amount of time to become informed as to engage in finger painting on the internet. Read the ad in full, then comment.

Reality check for Ashkenazim/European Jews on comparing Jewish versus Palestinian that suppored the Nazis: -Over 250 000 people of Jewish origin (whom the Nazis defined as Meshlinges), were members of the German army right up to General staff levels re. Generals of the German army - These Germans of Jewish origin (Meshlinges), often knew of and IGNORED, or actively and directly participated in the murder of millions of innocents (compare that to the perhaps 1000 Jews who were killed in Palestine in Jewish/Palestinian riots between 1880-1939). - Jews such as Avraham Stern (whom Israel honored with his own stamp), wanted to cooperate with the Nazis while millions of fellow Jews were being slaughtered to the point that he sent a letter to Hitler outlining how he could help to expel the British from Palestine. Israel supporters harping about some pathetic support offered to the Germans by Arab leaders should be reminded of the active role played by over 250000 Germans of Jewish origin.

When Esther from Tel Aviv holds a seder, how does she end the festival? I wonder if she sings the traditional song, "Next Year in Jerusalem?" I would guess not.

Maybe he is too young to remember, but Israel specifically asked Jordan to stay out of the Six Day War. However, Jordan's king thought he could gain control over the whole city of Jerusalem and wipe out any reminder that Jews had lived there. He went on the offensive and lost, with Israeli troops taking control over the entire city. Many of the soldiers, my cousin's husband among them, were shocked to see the destruction wrought by the Jordanians during their 19 years of control, synagogues and yeshivas destroyed, homes where Jews had lived knocked down or where they still stood, the mezuzahs torn from the gate posts, the area around the Kotel was a latrine with roads paved with the gravestones from the ancient Mount of Olives cemetery.

Ashkenaz/European Jews like Weiseal have milked the Holocaust for far too long but tha reality is that they if have their DNA analysis done (as is possible through a National Geographic project), they could verify for themselves that they have no Hebrew or Semitic ancestry whatsoever but rather Slavic origins. While some Ashkenazim may claim near Middle Eastern ancestry that still doesn't make them descendants of King David of Jerusalem or the Hebrews. They were also converts to Judaism. To illustrate: - Yemeni Jews are converts to Judaism from the Himyar Tribe - Jews from North Africa are converts to Judaism from the Berbers - Jews from Spain, Portugal and western Western Europe as well as those descended from the Jews rescued by Sultan Mehmet II of Turkey from the Spanish Inquisition period (large numbers who migrated to Eastern Europe during the ottoman Empire period),  are also descended from Berbers. Reality check Weisel: your mom was singing songs that had no meaning for Khazars.

The reality is that European Jews such as Weisel from Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe as well as Europe in general are not from the Middle East nor are they descendants of the Prophet Abraham nor decendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible.  They are descendants of the Khazar people of eastern Europe who converted en masse to Judaism between the 9th and 11th centuries. This is a historic fact and DNA analysis clearly shows that European Jews like Weisel are not descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible nor even a Semitic people but are of Slavic origin. By contrast both Christian and Muslim Palestinians are the direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible who converted to either Christianity or Islam, and DNA analysis shows this also. As such while European Jews can practice Judaism as converts, they are neither a Semitic people nor of Hebrew origin nor from the Middle East period. Hence  Israel demands recognition as a 'JEWISH' state instead of as a 'HEBREW' state.

Really sad this article. Wiesel says Jerusalem's above politics and then he ploughs straight in and plays politics with it. One of the lamest bits of his argument is the tired old chestnut about how many times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Torah and in the Koran. The implication seems to be that if a city's mentioned in somebody's holy book but not in someone else's then the people with the holy book get to grab the city, even thugh the other people have lived in it for 1300 years. Well, Eli, I've got news for you. London's not mentioned in our holy book, but it's still ours, because we've lived here for at least over a thousadn years. Also, Jerusalem is mentioned a lot in the New Testament. So if we count up and find its mentioned more there than in the Torah, do Christians get to take over Jerusalem from the Jews? Eli, you article is just another lame attempt to silence debate on the Israeli occupation of E. Jerusalem. You should be ashamed, frankly.

The old city of Jerusalem, as it is today, with its city walls and the mosques on the mount was almost all built by Muslims. I know the Kotel has huge significance to Jews, and that's fair enough,but it's not the prettiest thing around.

Sir, Kindly remind me - are you the peoples who still symbolically cannibalize the body of the Jewish man, eating his flesh and drinking his blood? Your opinion is very important... as a Christian...

Sir, You are correct. I feel the same as a Jew. I would also agree that Israeli politics per se is geared by the state interests and is not defined by Jewish experience in hands of Gentiles. Of course our connection to Eretz Israel and Jerusalem is not defined by European abusers and murderers... Our character however is shaped by our experience - both as the substantial source of human civilization - light into nations, remember? - as well as the object of the lower instincts of the said nations.

incredible....

Give it a rest Weisel. When you get interested in Palestinians rights---then you will have earned your Nobel prize. Meantime you are just another abe foxman whose org only cares about Jews being defamed.

Let's child into two and give half each to the two women claiming it.

Eli wiesel is not playing the victim, Hasan, he is a victim, was a victim of the worst inhumanity ever and as such he first of all , contrary to the moslems who dont take care of their own people, has to take care of his own people because no one else cares. If you build a city, it should belong to you. jews have been far more generous with jerusalem than any other nation jews have given the temple mount to the moslems and are they satisfied ? no? No one cares about the jews but the jews themselves no one cared about six millions jews that were victims of the worst violence the palestinans had and still have a choice they chose violence the jews like eli wiesel had no choice!!! the jews built jerusalem and they will live in jerusalem , allowing other people freedom they never allowed the jews. The jews could not pray in safety , could not live in safety under moslem rule or christian rule.the crusaders massacred jews and moslems Eli wiesel does not want to see history repeat itself

So thankfully the Israeli occupation is just bad and has nothing to do with the Holocaust.

Judge Goldstone is recognized as a man of integrity, and Eli the Weasel is barred from places where decent people meet.

Mr. Wiesel , you are excellent playing the victim, but you are no good human rights activist. If you were a real one , you would,ve championed a relentless defense of the palestinians against many Israeli atrocities. Had you been a real activist , you would,ve stood firmly against the injustice imposed upon the palestinian people for more than 65 years . You are a great human rights champion until it comes to the palestinian problem, there you remain silent accepting all what happens to the palestinian people at the hands of the people who are supposed to be the champions of human rights all over the globe.your attitude and your behavior, sire, can not be more double standard.

to say "Jews, Christians and Muslims are able to build their homes anywhere in Jerusalem and that only under Israeli sovereignty has freedom of worship for all religions been assured in the city." is he hallucinating. hasn't he heard of the "over 50 years of age rule" for Muslims to prat at Alaqsa? what freedom of worship is he talking about??

These comments by high profile American Jews actually do more hard than good as they reenforce the preception in the US that all Jews in the US have only loyality for Isreale first and foremost.

Honestly. After all, Israel attacked all three. Wrong. Jordan started shelling West Jerusalem. They were told by Israel to stay out and they wouldn't be attacked. They didn't listen

in Boca Raton, Florida, perhaps it was 2004 or 2005, and he was critical of the fact that the Jewish community has made significant positive relations with the Christian community after World War II, but we've neglected to make the same efforts with the Muslim community. To now state that Jerusalem is most precious to us from a religious perspective, does not really help in the effort towards reconciliation between the Jewish community and the Muslim community as is required for a peaceful Middle East and Global peace. It is of my opinion that deferring the core issue of Jerusalem once again sustains the level of uncertainty for us and future generations of Jewish, Christians and Muslims. When there's a mutual smile of exchange in greetings between myself and a Moslem religious woman, whether in Jerusalem or Toronto, I'd like to think that the bond we share is that also of this capital of Jerusalem which King David established thousands of years ago as the Holy city of peace.

Why start with Jerusalem? Well because in several years, there will be no Shaikh Jarrah, no Silwan. Jabal AlMoukabber will be predominantly Jewish..... There will be nothing to negotiate over. Jerusalem will be less than 10% Arab.

What do Jews owe to the 'International Community'? All we ask as a nation is to live in one tiny peace of land, which is our heritage according to every monotheistic religion. If Jews had had a natural rate of increase (i.e. our fathers were not murdered and we followed the same rate of growth as other nations), we would have been 1 billion today easily. I live in Panama and I love this country - but if it comes down to it, I will fight for Jerusalem.

The Bible itself tells some history of Jerusalem before it was conquered by Kind David around 1000 BCE. Genesis 14 tells of a meeting between Abraham and Melchizedek King of Jerusalem: "And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram to the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he [Abraham] gave him tithes of all." Note that Abraham recognized Melchizedek's priestly rank and gave him a tithe. Later in the Bible, with Jerusalem under Jewish rule, the historical figure of Melchizedek is still remembered. In Psalm 110, in what is thought to be a declaration during the coronation of the King, the MC (Court prophet?) declares "The Lord has sworn, and will not repent, You are a priest for ever after in the manner of Melchizedek." It shows reverence for the pre-Israelite king of Jerusalem. Jerusalem did not start as a Jewish city, and there is no reason why it should end up as exclusively Jewish. Sharing it with the Palestinians who see themselves (justifiably) as descendants of the early residents, and view the Islamic religion (unjustifiably) as the religion of Abraham, will be historically correct and politically smart.

Jerusalem will never be divided again but there is no reason that some land outside of Jerusalem can't be called by the same name and the non Jewish community can make believe that they have divided our capital. I agree with Mr. Weisel that Jerusalem is eternally and properly indivisible and part of the State of Israel.

Fully agree with Mr. Wiesel. The so-called international community was and is nowhere to be seen when Jews were murdered, exiled (like the Million from the Arab countries and now in Israel) and so on. We must learn to live our lives without the Quislings in our own field. By the way, how about having the Vatican being run together with Jews and the settlement of Washington DC belonging to the "international community" since it is on Indian territory?

Misuse of scripture to advance an agenda speaks to the root of unattainable Israeli peace. Misdirection is mainly affects Israel's peace. The Occupied Territory is enjoying an economic revitalization. Crimes there are some of the lowest in the world. Whereas Israel is plagued with a high crime rate, and our institutions are plagued by bribery, nepotism, favoritism. Nothing is above our political leadership and the only crime is getting caught. Israel is suffering from a moral crisis deeply rooted in the Occupation. People learn by example. Our moral crisis is a direct expression of the double standard we have been perpetrating against our own basic laws and by extension our semitic cousins the Palestinians. Israel is both Jewish and a Democracy. Jewish means we reflect the love of our G*d in our dealings with others; teaching them G*dly laws and compassion by our example. And, we are a democracy in that all have the pursuit of happiness and similar opportunity.

the World.' We've sung a different tune in our day. However, it's certainly absurd to argue that as a Christian, one should want it to belong to the Jews in particular. Luke 20:9-19. Mark 12:1-12. Matthew 21:33-46.

I am proud that, in a past Washington Post "On Faith" blog, I had the courage to express strong disagreement with Elie Wiesel (for whom I otherwise have enormous respect) when the only statement he had to make as member of a panel that he sahred with Mohammad Khatami was "Not with fanatics" (or something to that effect). I asked, rather harshly: "Who is being dismissed out of hand as a fanatic? Mohammad Khatami?" To say that it was unfashionable to take on Elie Wiesel like that is to make a wild understatement. The position he expresses on the status of Jerusalem, even if he adds the rider "as a Jew", vindicates the inference I was making then that, between Mohammad Khatami and Elie Wiesel, it is the latter who is the greater fanatic.

I wonder what God would say about who should and should not live in Jerusalem? I wonder if he will pit a brother against a brother because of their beliefs. I hope that God is more mericful than Mr. Wiesel

Can someone from the Pal camp please explain to me why the old city has to be split two ways? Jews get the Jewish quarter and the Arabs(Muslims) get the rest? I have lots of Christian friends here in Canada and non of them wants their holy sites in the hands of Muslim Arabs... (not to mention the current religious restrictions placed on Christians in Muslims countries) So then why would the two Christian quarters of the old city be handed over the Arabs? Personally I think that if the Muslims deserve the right to mandate the Arab(Muslim) Quarter then to should Christians be allowed to maintain rights over their quarters... The Armenian part should be mandated by a conglomerate representing the Orthodox churches... The Christian part should be mandated by council representing the Vatican and protestant churches... The Jewish section would be handled by Israel and the Muslim(Arab) section would be handled by the Muslim Authority that currently runs the temple mount...

'Wiesel added that the old city of Jerusalem would still be Arab if Jordan had not joined Egypt and Syria in the 1967 Six-Day War.' Honestly. After all, Israel attacked all three. Now, one can argue that Israel was justified in doing so, but it's absurd to imply that Jordan somehow chose to be attacked. In fact, and without checking, I'll bet Jordan was trying to do what it had been doing ever since 1948 and has continued to do to this day: walk the often non-existent tightrope between placating Israel and paying at least lip-service to the call of Arab unity. Weisel's claim also suggests a rather confused argument. If Jerusalem is 'above politics,' how can its possession be determined by war, which is a political process? The ad is an unhelpful and mendacious piece of polemic that does nothing to promote a solution to the problem.

-"Jews, Christians and Muslims are able to build their homes anywhere in Jerusalem". Somebody should update Mr Wiesel to the realities endured by Muslims regarding trying to build in West Jerusalem. He may find the truth a bit disturbing.

... the venerable Elie Wiesel is meddling in Israeli-Palestinian politics... (while he himself chooses to reside in the USA...)

Jerusalem should be a UN governed city accessible to all and with no bias for any.

because last time the palestinians took that approach, the israeli's you support proved how little they can be trusted by grabbing as much land as possible and creating "facts on the ground"...get real!

Dear Monitors, Find my video on Million Dollar challenge to US Senators,Islamic fundamentalists threatened to sue Youtube if the kept it on the air concerning Osama Bin Laden, and Israels right to respond to its enemies. Then get back to me. WAs I wrong about Syria before Israels attack on their project with North Korea, Was I wrong about Hezbollah in Lebanon with Syrian and Iranian support. And was I wrong about Hamas. Don't think so. The million dollar challenge has prevailed. Show me the proof concerning Osama as I requested in the video. 9/12/07 photo of Osama not real and every other audio message,since then has no credible authenticity.

'"It is mentioned more than six hundred times in Scripture - and not a single time in the Koran...the first song I heard was my mother's lullaby about and for Jerusalem." ' Never mind that Israel as a whole IS mentioned in the Qu'ran -- and as the rightful property of those who have accepted all the successive chapters of the Qu'ran. That is to say, Muslims. In the end, it always comes back to the same thing. All three religions in the Judeo-Islamic tradition have a theological claim to Israel -- and all three can convincingly refute the claims of the other two on theological grounds. At least us Christians can. Mohamed is a false prophet, and the parable of the bad husbandmen puts paid to the Jewish claim quite nicely. So theology gets us nowhere. It doesn't help when people pretend otherwise. I never would have thought Weisel would stoop quite this low.

Is for Jews. The international community can like it or not. They never liked Jews anyway, anytime.

...Christian church, so that too fits in with "above politics"... for Moslems the Al Aktsa Mosque is the the third holiest place on earth, which is surely above politics... together with the Jewish claims, all these issues must be taken into account for the sake of peace-on-earth... ...the best solution is that Israel retain West Jerusalem, plus the Jewish quarter in the Old City... and the Pals retain East Jerusalem... with totally free access to all parts of the city for all three religions... ...the venerable Elie Wiesel has no special right to meddle in politics... even if the first lullabyes he heard were about Jerusalem, and six hundred times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible, he still chooses to live in the USA...

I agree with Mr. Wiesel, Jerusalem should be above politics. He however goes on to claim that Jerusalem is for Jews only. He more than anyone should know what racism does for the fabric of society. Can Mr. Wiesel tell me that Arab families who lived on the land for thousands of years deserve to be evicted simply because they are now Jews. This is what is happening now for the indigenous Palestinians both Christian and MuslimI agree with Mr. Wiesel, Jerusalem should be above politics. He however goes on to claim that Jerusalem is for Jews only. He more than anyone should know what racism does for the fabric of society. Can Mr. Wiesel tell me that Arab families who lived on the land for thousands of years deserve to be evicted simply because they are now Jews? This is what is happening now for the indigenous Palestinians both Christian and Muslim. As Noble Prize winner Mr. Wiesel should advocate for justice to all people regardless of their ethnicity and background. Superiority and ethnocentricity are a formula for hate and violence. I hope that Mr. Wiesel will rethink his stand on this issue.

even if you ignore the stories and deny its truth, you can't deny that it is a book which factually has the Jews being in the land centuries before Muhammed walked the earth. So how the hell did the Muslims take control? Through battles. Just read the Koran. And how did the Arabs/Muslims loose it? Throug battle (which they started). So go to hell yourself, and stop placing your gluttoness feelings of hatred of Jews and Israel onto Israel.

Bert, I think you mis-addressed your post. Surely you meant to tell the Arabs to stop using their fables to feed gluttony,didn't you? After all, isn't that their claim to J'lem?

mine, that is, Jewish. Mr. Wiesel is making a strictly politcal statment and claims that it is not about politics.

Such nonsense from Wiesel! What difference does it make how many times it was mentioned in scripture written so many years ago. What matters is what jerusalem means to the people of today--Jews and Palestinians both. It is sad that he suffered the horrors of the holocaust but that gives him no special status to preach to those today who are working to resolve this lomg-standing conflict.

Many North African Jews owe their lives to the Arabs who protected them during WWII. Was just watching a program about it on PBS the other night. You need to GOOGLE 'righteous Arabs'.

Jerusalem is a non starter.

Elie Wiesel asks why not wait to relate to Jerusalem after all other matters are in place. But if Israel engages now in serious building within the Arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem, at that later time there will be nothing to discuss. Everything will be a fait accompli, and consequently there will be no basis for negotiations and no negotiations.

jerusalem is for the jews what acropolis is for the greeks. we can make compromises ,but jerusalem was, is and will ever be jewish (WHITH RESPECT TO ALL THE OTHER RELIGIONS)

The international community is the rest of nations in the world. US as a large country cant and Israel cant ask them to go away. Americans are not known for its education in international affairs. Most of them have no clue what European Union is. (maybe a cheese?)

It's an interesting emotional appeal, but it makes one wonder what lesson should we learn from the horrors of the holocaust: the value of life over ideology? OK, let's start working step by step on the peace initiative and leave Jerusalem for last. But, doesn't that mean that unilateral action in Jerusalem should be halted until the negotiations are complete? Appealing to people on the basis that Jerusalem is mentioned in the scripture? My goodness, Jerusalem is mentioned in a negative context more so than a positive one. From God's perspective it wasn't the land but the people of Jerusalem that he care about. And, more so how they treated the widow, the fatherless boy and the foreign resident. Our God is not a racist, but he said that by means of Abraham's seed all the nations would be blessed, not just Abraham's seed. In scripture, what he wanted from his people was 'kindness and mercy which was more important to him than sacrifice.'

"In the ad, titled "For Jerusalem", Wiesel wrote that Jews, Christians and Muslims are able to build their homes anywhere in Jerusalem" Oh come off it, Eli. Israel has long had a policy of attempting to reduce the Muslim prsence in Jerusalem and boost the Jewish presence. It has consistently used biased planning regulations, biased distribution of public funds, biased use of residency permits, and all sorts of other underhand methods in order to achieve this goal. I'm afraid that the pretty picture you paint of Jerusalem under Israeli rule, as a happy paradise for all, is a myth.

Jake, my dear,please review your history. For the past 3,300 years, the "International Community" has persecuted, murdered and decimated the Jewish people. And the Jews still live on while those peoples are relegated to the dustbins of history. We really don't care about the "International Community". They too, will be relegated to a dustbin, in due time.

Dear #1, the "international community," whatever that is, can go to hell.

I really don't care what is mentioned in the scripture. Stop using fables to justify your gluttony.

So much athrocities that you have seen in your life, including witnessing death of your father in a concentration camp and not able to even approach him in time of death for fear of being shot dead by nazis gives you first-hand perspective of Jewish Capital, Jerusalem. The World stayed silent while millions of Jewish men, women and children, stripped naked as an animals, were marched to their death in the ovens by nazis and their assistants. Dare to remind you that arabs whole=heartedly supported nazis...

Fair enough but the international community thinks not.