West Bank Hamas leader says seizing Gaza Strip was wrong

Use a search on your name and I see your postings in quite a few sites. Of course you have nothing new to say; glorify the Pals, twist and turn the words of reality and wish that all Jews were dead! Yes, the relentless Jew bashing scenario goes on and on (I swear you were getting paid by Harretz). There will come a day when you will regret all of your actions as you try pass on your anti-semite views. Your insatiable appetite and relentless need to degrade the Jewish race and those that stand up for civility and world harmony will some day get the better of you. Share us your e-mail address, I notice you requesting it from another post to those who oppose you, how about it? Ya, just what I thought, just another anti-Semite blow hard.

Who on http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/884447.html claimed that Hamas didn't seize Gaza. Notice how she can ignore Hamas' own words in order to invent Jewish wrongs. That's the typical action of Hannah, JB, CF, Silvienne, Walid, et all. Truth destroys their arguments, they must invent.

It's because this article is a blatant piece of propaganda. One man, on his release from a Fatah prison, says these things? And THAT is a sign of "growing tension" within Hamas? Spare me. His words READ like an attempt to reach out to Fatah. No surprises there: the Hamas forces in Gaza are also saying they want a new National Unity Govt with Fatah. Read the article again, Scoon; this guy has been released by Fatah, and in Gaza "Hamas has held dozens of Fatah officials, many of whom have been freed" See beneath the propaganda? There *is* movement here, tentative tho it is. But it ain't a movement towards a schism inside Hamas, but towards a reproachment between Hamas and Fatah. Abbas either comes to an agreement with Hamas, or he loses it all. Hamas understand that. I'm sure Abbas does too. I suspect the author of this article does as well, but he can't say it out loud. Coz that ain't part of the puppet theatre being played for your amusement.

Michael Safyan is a serious and thoughtful student of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. While this post may seem to side with Israel, one should view his comments on USA TODAY, in order to see how knowledgeable and thoughtful he really is. To find out more about his thoughts, one must either go way down in the "comments" section, or use a "find" comment with his name. http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/02/the_danger_of_a.html

Michael also wrote: The "massive Arab armies" were not as well-equipped or trained as Israel's Haganah, Irgun, and Stern gangs. The worst part for me was that Ben-Gurion and a select group named by Pappe had a master plan of ethnic cleansing called "Plan Dalet" which mandated they either massacre, expel or bulldoze all Palestinian villages in the 85% of Mandate Palestine they had decided they "required" for a viable state, ignoring the UN's already-unfair division of 57% for Jews, and only 43% for Palestinians who outnumbered those Jews about 2 to 1! Israel even continued the ethnic cleansing by violence during ceasefires they had agreed to. By the way, I noticed with regret that during the 48-hour ceasefire agreed to in last summer's Lebanon conflict, Hezbollah kept the full 48 hours but Israel started bombing again after only 24 hours.

Michael Safyan demonstrates considerable "balance" in his thinking, as reflect in his other writings, including: "What the Palestinians refused to accept in 1937, 48, 67 and 2000 were not "offers of peace" but "offers" of little "pieces" of their own homeland." "Let's lay to rest the old saw about Barak's "generous" offer of less than 50% of the West Bank, no rights to East Jerusalem, and no hope of the Right of Return--an "offer" no Palestinian leader could accept, especially after Arafat had already made the incredibly generous offer of 78% of his original homeland to the Jews." "It is Israel who doesn't recognize the right of Palestine to exist and never has. It is Israel who will not renounce violence, continuing illegal "targeted assassinations" and almost-nightly raids into Palestinian cities and oppressive curfews--which are either "breathing" or "choking," the Israeli army's own terms." You're a good man, Michael Safyan.

....from Clicky, Indra, Yukky Sullivan, Durston, etc. etc. etc.

"As long as we are under occupation, we should not resort to force..." In other words: "Only our mutual hatred of Israel can unite us. If it weren't for Israel, we would still be at each other's throats murdering each other's children in cold blood. However, since we each hate the Israelis more, let's establish a Hudna -- which we will break at the earliest possible moment -- so that we can murder the Jews." It's amazing that even when radical Palestinians murder other Palestinians in the territories that a Hamas spokesman can pass the buck onto Israel and use it as an opportunity to lament "the occupation."* *NOTE: placed in quotes because Hamas considers Israel's very existence an occupation. The occupation of the West Bank does not require such quotes... And that occupation will end as part of a lasting, stable peace agreement -- hopefully sometime in the near future.

You engaged in alenghty analysis of the hamas.Given thir long history of murderous activity, the best solution comes from the movie the Godfather.Two a piece in the head.

You engaged in alenghty analysis of the hamas.Given thir long history of murderous activity, the best solution comes from the movie the Godfather.Two a piece in the head.

Stick 2 what u do best there listner. This "Talk Back" is 4 their point of view not the corrective action by some 1 2 become a English Maj. In other words "GET A JOB" if thats all u have 2 contribute Some what agree with # 3 but I think the Isrealies and Pals are just fronts for the dominant take_over of ideaology and Values toward SUNNI moderates. The Shiites lust and thirst for blood of the Sunnis(their Muslim Brothers)is relentless (Saudi, Egypt, Leb, Turkey, Pak ... China, Russia and Venisula 4 their Thugs all for the ultimate take over. Ahmadinejad(Hitler re-incarnated) snakes around from country to country giving his fellow Iranians precious food and gas away, buying worthless technology while they live in poverty, the likes of their Supreme Leader, President and the infamous Elite Guards will Never Face. Iranians are the suckers of the century for tolerating this regime seeking world domination and distruction. But what the hell do I know? right Listner hmmmmm.

Once famous for being able to trounce Israeli media in conveying the Palestinian cause are now bitter enemies in trying to convey who is the leader of the Palestinians. The truth is irrelevant. Hamas targeting the Arabic world and Fatah to the western ,who wins depends on who you are rooting for.

Mr. Freedman, You are obviously well schooled and have interesting things to say, but it is painful to read the way you say it. You are writing to the public, not to peers schooled in PoliSci-speak. As one example, "priviledging" is not a verb. Such writing may allow you to feel intelligent, but fails at the greater objective of getting your point across. Please, for everyone's sake, translate your thoughts into English before hitting the SEND button.

The country leadership desperately wants Hamas goons to have one problem less. And for thye umptieth time,thanks Almighty there were no Israeli Lefties in the Allied HQ during he WW2

The ideology and record of hate, brutatlity, racism, facisim, and murder perists under a new religious guise. It must be liquidated, albeit w/ the sword or the olive branch.

In the Gaza Reservation and Terrorist Preserve to many own weapons, To many operate as independents. And to many could care less what Hamas wants. When you talk violents it breeds violents. The question is why would Fatah even want to make peace with Hamas. The only thing that will happen is Hamas will kill Abbas and others that are risking their lives try to make a homeland for the Pals. Abbas should tell Hamas their on their own now. Do not give them a chance to take over the west bank.

Part of the problem with priviledging sectarian ideological commitments over national representative institutions (where armed force is directed without armed protest against change of direction according to temporary authority granted to coalitions of leaders via councils, elections etc.) is that the potentially anarchic disruption of an armed movement that resists the formal authority of a given factional rival in national insitutions as a matter of principle (Hamas may co-opt national armed institutions but it never dissolves its own armed organizations nor formally abrogates freedom of action for them) begins to leak inwards. If representative institutions are considered illegitimate then you would need to consider the one-party state alternative of effectively implemented "democratic centralism" keeping in mind that this, too, can turn into anarchy, albeit "anarchy from the top" a la Stalin's destructive purges and Mao's "Great Leap Forward".