UN chief chides Lieberman for breaching confidentiality of talks

Anyone who posts here(on regular basis) has seen article revisions based on updated information. Sometimes it seems...at least to me...to help the Pals, and at other times it seems to benefit Israel. Since it cuts both ways it's hard to make a conspiracy out of it, but if that's what makes your flag fly...and we know with you it does...go for it.

What's going on here? This story was first presented as a piece highlighting a defiant Lieberman making demands upon the UN and Ban, the headline was, "Lieberman to Ban: Israel seeks more objectivity from international community" Now, the piece has a new headline and some additional text. The revised article now makes it look like Ban is doing all the demanding of poor little Israel. That goes beyond spin and into the realm of fantasy. Why not a whole new article, instead of trying to spin the original to suit editorial whims and a political agenda? This is not good journalism and it's ham-handed propaganda. Haaretz is sinking to the level of the JPost, where the truth is in short supply.

Your information is incorrect. Egypt blocked an international body of water-the straight of Aqaba -to Israel. That is an act of war of aggression under UN and international law.Israel re-acted in a preemptive move against Egypt only. Then Jordan moved its army and started war against Israel,creating another front of a war of aggression. Israel defeated Jordan and gained territory. International law say an aggressor state may not keep territory gained by its aggression; that law does not say a defending nation cannot keep the territory it gained defending itself from the aggressor. you know not of the history nor of the law.

As a matter of fact there are towns on Long Island which are plurality,if not majority, Jewish.

As Reagan you to say "There you go again".You write: "Defense, Israel & Energy (DIE)". Along with Zionist controlled government (ZOG)and all the other laughable neo-Nazi, KKK, and antisemitic acronyms that now exist in the paranoid, delusional and conspiracy theorists world, you must be in heaven. The "master plan" as you put it, just for that melodramatic effect I suppose...where would we be without the Jews secretly control the world theory...comes from what source? While it certainly is no secret that U.S. and Israeli (Dod)Dept. of Defense have worked closely for some time. Merging their technologies to create the most deadly and high tech weapons that decrease the risk to our soldiers in the field. So I'm fine with that. loner writes: "the Israel lobby services the interests of Israel" Mark: Yea? No big revelation or conspiracy there. Why! should an Israeli lobby, lobby for who?Egypt? The Arabs have their lobbies and they outnumber Israeli lobbies (3 to 1).

Any historical reading of Res. 242 reveals that Israel was expected to keep some land it won in the 1967 war for defensive purposes. The land kept will be the settlements around Jerusalem. In any peace agreement made between the Israeli's and Pals will include dropping the idea of international criminal courts for all issues. Frankly the Pals are far more guilty, and, of many more crimes than Israel is, as the "Son of Hamas" interview last week on CNN revealed i.e.The Pal government targets civilians and Israel does not. Arab lobbies which outnumber Israeli lobbies 3 to 1, and are supported by the oil company money. But that's OK with you? Right? Only the legal and successful Israeli lobby(AIPAC) bothers you? Does the NRA also cause you problems?

lieberman is a joke, along with the rest of the israeli government. to paraphrase what he's saying: c'mon guys, look at the great pretense and meaningless rhetoric we've put on over the last year...now it's only fair that you should close your eyes and ignore what we're actually doing. as for ki-moon...what else did he expect from lieberman?

Really? Really, really? In 99.9% of the time, when the rest of the world voted to criticize Israel, the US has been the lone supporter in the UN security council and vetoed the resolution. It would be an understatement to say that the US has been biased. After Israel's insult to the US, may be it is time to be objective.

Where are all the adults in Israel? It seems to me that the entire leadership is run by teenagers who just want to stick it to the US and the entire international community.

EL: "IT`S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT this ex-bouncer is now the FM of Israel? How did that come about?" Answer: 15 seats in the Knesset. Those 15 seats makes Lieberman the Kingmaker, because HIS party can bring Likud down by walking out the door.... Labour can't do it. Shas can't do it. None of the other minnows can do it. Only a walkout by Yisrael Beiteinu can cause Bibi's govt to fall, and when you have a guy like Netanyahu by the balls then his heart and his mind will surely follow....

There is no reason to change it, modify it, or excuse it. The reality of Israelis idiotic behavoir is so overwhelming that it may be too late to want to give them the benefit of the doubt. The time for understanding and patience is long gone. And the sad part is that it was the Israelis who have brought this state of affairs upon themselves. The party's over, my friend!

This guy is a joke when are guys going to learn he makes you guys look bad he doesn t know when to shut up

The US Embassy URL is http://israel.usembassy.gov/ Access it and you will understand that because of the US does not recognize the annexation of East Jerusalem the US embassy to Israel is in Tel Aviv. Access http://jerusalem.usconsulate.gov/ and you will discover we have a consulate in Jerusalem and have had since 1844. . . Our Embassy then was in Istanbul. While at the US Embassy site check out the message about the US Information Resource Center. . . . Meanwhile, read ALL of http://jerusalem.usconsulate.gov/ You will soon realize that all of the obfuscation of Congress has not changed the fact that NO government of the USA has EVER recognized the annexation of East Jerusalem, that we maintain the status MUST be negotiated. Also, that because of this issue NO US government, NOT EVEN that of George W. Bush has failed to exercise the waiver which lets the president refuse to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv. Bush NEVER recognized the annexation.

But for Israeli resolve, intelligence, chuzpah, they would have been long gone. You may not like Lieberman but what has he divulged that Ban said? He sets out what he said. That, he is perfectly entitled to do. Ban has no right of confidentiality in Lieberman's views, thoughts or words. And when you look at those words, they are perfectly reasonable. You no doubt think that Israel has been treated with kid gloves but au contrare. When Pals attempt to kill Jewish civilians, nada a word. When Israel rebuilds a synagogue, intentionally destroyed by the Jordanians, well that is outrageous and provocative behaviour. What you don't like is that Lieberman is demonstrating considerable insight. And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't have any tolerance for his politics or that of Likud.

Israel made three constructive moves 1) BiBi's speech at Bar-llan calling for and accepting peace. 2)the settlement freeze that at the time was called "unprecedented" by H. Clinton. 3) The removal of dozens if not 100 checkpoints in the WB that led to at least one sniper attack killing a Jewish father of 5 or 7 kids. This was met with Hamas saying they would never recognize Israel's "right to exist". They would continue attempts to destroy Israel using violence. Abbas of Fatah repeated the message of Hamas. Abbas then said he was resigning and asked for even more from Israel to stay. Bottom line Lieberman is the wrong messenger with the Right Message.Case Closed.

I believe the US has for too long enjoyed the thankless honor of being Israel's best friend. Now we're a fading star. A soon-to-be has been empire. Lieberman boasts of his cozy relationship with Russia. Perhaps they would enjoy the glory of being Israel's new BFF? Dump US while you can. Otherwise your welfare checks might bounce.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother posting, as my posts seem to only get read by the censors, but here I go! Lest we forget, and for those who get their revisionist history spoonfed by others, lets explore the FACTS that surround how Jerusalem came to be under Israeli control: 1. Most will agree, this was a result of Jordanian loss of real estate, in the 1967 war, but what provoked that war?? 2. The Israeli version is that they loanched a "pre-emptive" strike, This was in answer to a massing of Egyptian forces and material in the Sinai Pennensula. The Arab version is that Israel launched an unprovoked attack, bombing a significant amount of the Egyptian air force, on the ground. This strike was effective in largely negating the Egyptian air force. Agression, or pre-emption, as usual, Israel started the war. Revisionists have been astoundingly effective in portraying this as being started by the Arabs, and against all odds, won by the Israelis. 3. Jordan retaliated, and lost Jerusalem

I wonder if Lieberman is really that deluded that he thinks that Objectivity would exonerate Israel's excesses in the Territories in settlement expansion and the likes. Granted there is a lot of hate out there and it is something everyone should struggle against. However, especially coming from Lieberman, this demand sounds a lot like "I am entirely right and if anyone was objective they'd agree with me." Personally I think the Obama administration is finally bringing much-needed objectivity to the issues.

"The foreign minister added that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza." Does this official seriously represent Democtratic Israel. I mean, are Israel's interests truly served by such a statement?

read the armistice AGREEMENT. No other country was required to recognize 'occupation' So what is it that you mean? And why was there condemnation from the UNSC when Israel illegally, unilaterally annexed, but not when Jordan LEGALLY annexed bilaterally?

Like it or not, if you think about it, Lieberman does have a point.

Lieberman is the Israeli version of John Bolton.

Most of them are dead or in Israeli prisons

Palestine is not Israel's country.

This misunderstood statesman, honest business man with no paranoia at all, trusting (sane) eyes, wrongfully harassed for simply telling the truth, should be elevated to the highest position in the land so he can take his rightful place in history alongside Joan of Arc, Ghandi, JFK and Plato. Is that sarcastic enough for you BEN JABBO in "Israel"

international community. Leiberman is not an idiot to get such a high position. Israel doesn't need to bow everytime someone says so. Israel has been treated unfairly for centuries. Now its enough.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Vancouver, Canada is the new Hollywood North and many Actors wish it were part of the USA. It is now believed that a gradual, Israeli-like approach of slowly moving the Washington State border northward and confiscating small tracts of land can probably be undertaken without provoking significant international outrage. If the natives do take to violence and rioting, it will only serve to prove the need for the USA to move in and take control.

I guess no one is surprised that Lieberman has made a diplomatic blunder in breaching confidentiality of talks with Ban. We always knew that with his racist views he was unsuitable for the post of Foreign Affairs Minister. The real question is whether his CV is good enough to get a job as a doorman at the Foreign Ministry.

this ex-bouncer is now the FM of Israel? How did that come about? This man is now one of the ugly faces that Israel presents to the world. And Israelis are so stupid that this fact does not get into their collective heads. What is wrong with the Israeli psyche? What has prompted Israeli society to believe that they will not pay the price? How can people live like that? What kind of milk they they drink when they were babies? It is hard to imagine a people doing this collectively, unless one also reflects that the Masada Complex IS part of Israeli psyche. The Palestinians don't have to do anything. Just wait for Israelis to destroy themselves!

This Lieberman jerk is destroying any good will or sympathy for Israel. I see it first hand in the most of friendly countries. Get rid of him ASAP !

rw east jerusalem is a non existent description. prior to the jordanian invasion of israel in 1948 THERE WAS ONLY A CITY KNOWN AS JERUSALEM. when recaptured by israel in 1967 it was once more a city called jerusalem. this name is as false as arabs called palestinians they are not ! nor do they have any de jure rights whatsoever.

Once a fool, always a fool. Same old rants, ey Very-Hard-Man, which I assume is an implication to the cialis or viagra you must be taking. Needless to say, your spin is old, outdated, inaccurate, and every talkbacker b-slaps you on it everytime. When will a fool ever learn...but I suppose that is the definition of a FOOL!

killed couple of days ago in Afghanistan in a raid by your commando soldiers ,were they "enemy combatants" ? Be objective Colin Wright ,ask Goldstone for his objective opinion

Lol. Be careful what you wish for.

and East Jlem. Which hasn't prevented Jordan from doing whatever it pleased them there ,including destruction of ancient Jewish graves and synagogues and using the stones to pave military latrines. So much for your international law.

It anything has skewed the international community against Israel, it is Israel's own behavior. There is no justification for what it has done to the Palestinians. If any Israeli leaders have contributed to this criticism of Israel, it has been Lieberman and Netanyahu. Both have let the world see the true nature of Israel and its view of Arabs. Israel has the image of a country committed to self-interest and is prepared to skuttle and demonize even their best friends if it serves their self-interest. It is truly a sad state of affairs that a country is dependent on emotional appeals rather than being able to rationalize its actions. But that is what happens when exploitation of a helpless people occurs.

It's just like Gaza. Israel leaves Gaza and just gets rockets and Hamastan in return. Then the world blames Israel. Israel has made far more concessions than the Arabs ever have, yet Israel is blamed. Why? Because people love to hate Israel. Hate first and then justify your hatred later. That's the method of so many of the Israel-haters on this board.

Building Jewish homes in occupied East Jerusalem is as illegal as it would be for the U.S. to build American settlements in Kabul or Bagdad. East Jerusalem is not Long Island. Israel may have forgotten, but East Jerusalem is occupied territory and its annexation into Israel is not recognized by any other country in the world. That is an "objective" fact. It is a war crime against international law for an occupying power to settle its own people, or to displace the residents, of territory occupied in a war.

We've examined Lieberman objectively, and we've decided he isn't welcome here. Lieberman has been ignored and uninvited from events by nation after nation. He is personal non-grata in nation after nation. Get the clue Lieberman!! Resign for the good of Israel! What are you waiting for? A formal invitation to leave? Well, consider this your invitation. As Israel's foreign minister, you are not welcome in any country where previous Israeli foreign ministers had been warmly welcomed. Your presence is only barely tolerated for the sake of saving face for the good of ISRAEL when you are allowed to visit the rest of the world. Stand up for Israel's interests over your own interests, and stand down from your position as foreign minister. The is the reasoned and objective conclusion of the international community. Exactly as you requested, Mr. Lieberman.

"The master plan appears to call for an energy pipeline from Central Asia to an Israeli seaport terminal. The proposed pipeline(s) will traverse Muslim lands, that`s where the Defense lobby comes in." This is what I have said for a long time. Netanyahu has been at Irans throat since the early 1990's, then after 9-11 began bleating for a Pre-emptive attack on Iraq. The 2 main players for oil. Then there was the BBC expose on Israeli "contractors" in Mosul training the Kurds. I believe with Iraq and Iran out of commission Israel will be in a key spot on the Mediterranean sea to supply oil to Europe via the Mosul-Haifa pipeline once its been restored again.

a large high throne and a small low stool. GUESS FOR WHOM. Unless from here to Ban's arrival Lieberman will be fired. A thing that should have been done long ago and together with Yeush.

Because Israel is revolting. Read it the way it pleases you!!!

laughed, and laughed, and laughed... He then said: I NEED A SNORKELING, LIEBS!!!

during his studies ? No ? Was he a Kept Man of somebody ? How did he finance his Columbia studies ,he ,an average HS student not elligible for a grant ? Enlighten us ,oh Great Wizard from Texas .

Hey,Avi, I guess you got your wish. But now that the Americans, too, are being more objective, it's getting a little uncomfortable. Be careful what you wish for, sport.

"And Ban Ki_Moon" - Kevin Ban Ki Moon was hand picked by the Bush administration to replace Kofi Annan who was viewed as anti-American and anti-Israeli, but had been backed by Clinton to replace Butros Boutros-Ghali which was seen as anti-American and Anti-Israel and was the choice of the Non-Aligned movement. . . Ban Ki Moon is not the problem. The problem is even Ban Ki Moon is fed up with Israel's antics.

Given Avigdor Lieberman's utter lack of objectivity and rationality what the heck does he expect? Israel hired a bar bouncer as it's Foreign Minister. What did Israel expect? The gangsters running Israel have pissed off the world, not just the USA. Pretending that the whole world is Israel's enemy might be good politics for the Netanyahu/Lieberman/Yishai/Barak gang, but it offends folks who have been trying to be objective with Israel. Objective: expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations.

Indeed,Israel should be forced to carry out UN-resolutions, first of all 242 from 1967, as the UN demands from other countries in the world.

Lieberman, are you deaf to what the world is saying about the settlements? Or are you blind to what you're doing to the Pals?

why does a man from canada worry about what happens in israel? are his motives altruistic ? we all know the answer to an anti semites outburts.

Israel to seek what? When is it that Israel is gonna understand, that, that very same community is the one that instigates all the hate through out the rest of the world, against the Jews ? It is time for Israel to form The United States of Israel with all the territories gather by Elohim, as a one state ... one nation, and bring the desired peace to the region. Then tell the rest of the world to go fly a kite. If this was done, then the only losers will be .. the rest of that Jew hating world to whom the u.s.a. is been flaking its sorry looking behind.

Where are you expecting the leaders to come from? Hamas who want to start bombing again in Israel - where are the moderate Palestinian leaders?????

laughed and laughed and laughed... He then replied: I need a SNORKELING, Liebs!

The 'natural growth' bit has been spawned by the right wing parties as part of the Judea and Samaria thing. I totally support Israel, but I realize that while the right thinks it 'owns' the West bank, its boundaries are still disputed internationally. Therefore, unilateral action by Israel is provocative if not illegal. Do the right thing Israel, hold off your expansion until diplomacy or war creates new realities.

Nor UN's precursor-organisation League of Nations (aka "Lame Numpties") which was dissolved in 1945 to form UN. If UN had even remote concept of objectivity, then it would dissolve itself as a bottom-of-abjectness-barrel failure (which it in fact is).

The Dwarf Israel expects the world to "bla bla bla" or else. Or else? What Jokers.

you care just do not like! No one is making you read. Come on

More Objectivity? Not likely...Israel is on it's own, unfortunately. The world is openly anti-Semitic, and that includes the world's ruling bodies, especially the UN, and everyone is jumping in on the bandwagon. The EU, the UN, the USA (via Obama), and of course the Axis of Evil...Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas...not to mention the various splinter groups of violent Islam and even the more moderate groups such as Fatah. Anything to raise the level of hostility and demand against Israel, unreasonably so. It doesn't matter any longer what the truth is, the world doesn't want to hear the truth...they just want blood...Israel's blood. The only true ally Israel has, is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...the one true God. That is enough...thank God!!!

"Which part of Israel`s right to natural growth do the international community not understand?" ?? Israel can naturally grow IN Israel. The problem is when Israel wants to grow naturally in other folk's territory. Jerusalem is illegally annexed territory acquired by war.

The part that says since 1967 Israel has annexed 2/3 of the West Bank. The part that says since 1967 Israel has expanded Jeruslaem until it now occupies 25% of the TOTAL West Bank area.. you know.. parts like that!

"for an energy pipeline from Central Asia to an Israeli seaport terminal" where did you read that! No one seems aware of it except you but I'm sure we'll interested so.. pls provide a link to "The Master Plan"

this insignificant non entity. But please Bibi---let him keep his job--he is good for well --the opposition.

Which part of Israel's right to natural growth do the international community not understand?

he mistakes objectivity with a one-sided pro-Israel view. Convenient ofcourse but not very realistic

I think Lieberman is correct -- At the time of the Gaza invasion -- Sri Lanka was busy finishing off it's "tamil problem". Where are all the people that care so much about the Palestinians? Over 7,000 Tamils were killed and many more injured -- the resulting humanitarian crisis is still going on. I have lots of examples -- why don't all you great humanitarians care about anything except the Palestinians? I guess you don't think that Arab oil money and propaganda has anything to do with it? I travel a lot -- most people regard Israel as trouble makers -- many people don't even realize that Palestinians are Muslims -- but once they do, oh boy, does their attitude change. I do agree that Israel's PR sucks. BTW, even the name Palestine does not belong to the "Palestinians" -- that is the name given by the Romans to the nation of Israel -- in other words, modern day Israelis are the real Palestinians -- and Arabs come from ... Saudi Arabia.

Fed Up wrote, "After the Supreme Court blocked the ban on corporate political spending, the Oil Companies can support candidates that AIPAC doesn`t like. Israel is a liability the US doesn`t need." That's possible, but unlikely. I see the all-powerful, US War Lobby as a consortium of three related lobbies - Defense, Israel & Energy (DIE). The self-serving interests of all three overlap in the ME and in Central Asia. The master plan appears to call for an energy pipeline from Central Asia to an Israeli seaport terminal. The proposed pipeline(s) will traverse Muslim lands, that's where the Defense lobby comes in. Here's the rub - The US and Israel have merged their Defense lobbies, the Israel lobby services the interests of Israel, not the USA and the Energy lobby is a multi-national conglomerate. Bearing that in mind, I see the US-Israel "special relationship" as solid, indivisible and resolute. As we saw last week, it is also insult-proof. Please respond.

I do not want the US government to donate billions of dollars a year to Israel any longer, financed by my tax dollars! I hope that the US jews will stop supporting Israeli governments(present and future) unless they are truely interested in peace.

1. Netanyahu's speech. Actions are louder than words and Israel's actions resulted in alienating all her friends like Turkey, Jordan, Egypt the USA and the rest of the world. 2. Settlement freeze. Never mind freeze, what's going on can't even be described at slow down. 3 Checkpoints. Yeh sure! Palestinians can really travel between their towns and cities freely. Machsom Watch and B'Tselem must be lying. No wonder no one believes Israel anymore.

but i cant say so under u.s. legislation ! even under us law you are asking israel to commit unlawful acts by telling tham they cant build jewish homes in their own country ! !

Move to the center. Deploy professional diplomats. Rebuild your image as the principled, underdog fighters you used to be. And of course, stay strong militarily. It is a simple formula - no advanced degrees are necessary.

simple really....it's a war crime.

i'm an american jew, and i don't support israel's policy of building more settlement's in jerusalem. this damages U.S. and Israeli national security. i think the U.S. should withhold some of its aid to Israel if Israel does not sufficiently help U.S. national security.

As if the West is not protecting Israel's outrageous' interests... another crying to the Wolf. Next thing we'll hear from this guy is : "They want to throw us to the sea"; "They hate us more than they love their children"; "We gave them Gaza and had rockets in return"; "A new Holocaust is on the horizon"... which one did I forget now?

As usual liberman says what is true. When in the past 6 months have we heard anyone complain about Hamas? why do we not hear the international community call for the PA to stop the violence. There are 2 sides here but it seems only one is always to blame and the other gets away from doing anything wrong as the world is blinded by the Arab PR

Better try to improve Israel than help to destroy it. How? leave there and particpate in free election or, if you prefer to be happy abroad, distant yourself from this nonsense (anti-Israelism).

It looks like Avigdor is right, but nothing can change the world opinion about in fashion everywhere. Foolish jewish left helps to fuel it. Why foolish? Becuase they are helping to create a pre-WWII situation when world was without jewish state.

the day of the idiots continues apace !

Who has the fragile self-esteem? Who has troubles handling anything that may perceived as crticism? To make yourself feel better you react with rage and efforts to belittle the other to make yourself appear better by: -believing you are better than other -fantacizing about the power -expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans -taking advantage of other -setting unrealistic goals -appearing as tough minded ( unemotional) -unable to forgiving because "the others are wrong" (with thanks to Anne)

Israel*s efforts, concessions and self-sacrifice have never been acknowledged by the intl.community, but indeed taken for granted as "natural" of Israel to do. NOTHING is being required from the Palestinians; even the only thing Israel has asked for: stop the violence, has passed the ears of the intl.community. Their violence is regarded as "natural". Just a question about TODAY: has the intl. community registered the Hamas call for showing "rage" by throwing stones at Israelis??? Instead of condemning it as an incitement to violence, the intl.community probably explains it away as a "natural reaction to the opening of the Hurva synagogue"? Another example: inspite of the presence of the UN troops in Leb, Iran-Syria are arming Hezbollah to fight Israel! BUT it seems this is quite OK too in the eyes of the intl.community. Kind of a "natural" thing to permit. Undoubtedly such indifference by the intl.community to the plight of Israel stinks very much of anti-semitism...

...who finally would be the worth of the Israeli people the leaders they deserve. And I mean all the Israeli people -also the arabs. The leaders who are honest,trustworthy, peace-seeking, not corrupted ones, one-eyed -also in the eyes of the world.

by Saudi Arabia, is about the two state solution. But does not guarantee peace to any of the parties involved: Israel, Palestine, Jordan and Egypt. Pals have done their utmost to torpedo this initiative. So I wonder what the quartet may have in mind.

So basically the whole world is subjective and unfair except for Israel? What a narcissist. This guy actually has a high power position. Seriously... i dont know what else to say. Its just a tragedy to humanity to have politicians like this anywhere.

Israeli concessions? Get real. The Bar-Ilan speech was the least sincere call for peace in ME history, aimed not to the Pals but to buy breathing space to get the Americans off his back. In the speech he declared most of the core issues to be non-negotiable and dictated terms he knew would be unacceptable to the Pals. The settlement freeze is an obvious sham and the roadblocks shouldn't be there in the first place, it is not Israel's land. That is why the so-called concessions have been taken for granted internationally. Oh, and no humanitarian crises in Gaza? The Gaza where 1.5m people, half of them children live on $2 a day, with little clean water and thousands in tents around their destroyed homes that can still not be rebuilt due to the siege on the strip.

And Lieberman is being a clown, as usual. This is merely an attempt to spin some unpleasent news i.e. that Mitchell is planning to cancel his scheduled trip to Israel and go straight to Moscow to confer with the Quartet. Ravid's laughable spin is an attempt to pretend that Lieberman can ring up Ban and dictate the agenda for that meeting in Moscow. He can't, and only a gullible fool would think otherwise.

get a grip and stop acting against your own interest. are housing projects in disputed areas really worth the current crisis?

That will teach that jumped up little g--k from the far east how to do things the neo zionist way. You show him Avigdor---or kick him out of the club. Hey kick them all out---who needs clients who wont dance to your music. We love you lieberman---you are the best.

your habitual sneering is not substitution for judgment. Still one is glad you are entertained.

Lets face it settlements are an indictable offense with no statute of limitations. After the Supreme Court blocked the ban on corporate political spending, the Oil Companies can support candidates that AIPAC doesn't like. Israel is a liability the US doesn't need.

"Israel expects a more objective and constructive approach from the international community" palestians are still dying every day; the world is simply waiting for justice.

Mr Lieberman, the international community wouldn't be applauding a kidnapper who, after years of keeping captive a young woman, decides to only beat her on Wednesdays instead of every day. Who needs to be objective?

Could Haaretz publish an article detailing the removal of checkpoints ? Statistics : dates, names, places and comments of users on the changes made? These is a really important step that needs to be acknowledged.

...from the international community. Now that's a turnaround! Political Zionists are usually expecting the international community to turn a blind eye to Israel's belligerency. The international community is fed up with Israel's double standards that are pushing the world to all out war!

Sounds like one.

Israel to the world: - We still threaten to bomb Iran - We will not even negotiate the status of Jerusalem - We will continue to deprive the Palestinians in Gaza their basic human rights - We will continue to expand on our settlement program - We will back stab all of our friends (including the USA) and ruin any country who says anything bad against our crimes - And when we have nothing else to stand on, we will call you anti-semetic. Very positive Israel, very positive indeed.

Instead of Israel canceling plans to build new housing why not allow Palestinians from Gaza to live in half the units? The sooner the Palestinians & Jews start living together the sooner they will be able to share the land that they claim to love. The two state solution is Apartheid. Let them share the land.

Good for Lieberman! Finally someone in our government with integrity and the courage to speak up! For all those whining about the poor PA and Gaza, get a life! These people state openly that their goal is to wipe us off the map. We need to get some officials like Lieberman who have the chachkas to stand up for Israel or we will surely be over-run!

All we hear from Lieberman and his cronies is "Israel expects" What do they expect? They are bullies, and arrogant people. They deserve to be put in place and made to hold back on their plans for more settlements. What an arrogant nation.

Israel is like the US in the respect that it only wants one thing. That is all it's own way, and the rest of the world is becoming tired of both countries. Israel knows it can do anything it likes, because it can manipulate the US into backing it.

I have a feeling that they will be talking about Iran. Don't you? Russia worried about Israel?????? Really?? Tell me about it. This turbulence with America is another one of the many. A serious one, but Israel will survive. Israel is very strog in congress, and Obama knows that better than anybody else. In sum, after a lot of uhh uhh uhh America's veto in the security council will continue. Wanna bet???

Stop the illegal building in occupied territory!

international diplomacy. This clearly hasn't worked so Avigdor (the nightclub bouncer) Lieberman is now trying to explain away one year of being totally disrespectful to foreign dignateries, throwing away the How to be a good diplomat manual, using gimmicks like naughty chair diplomacy Danny (naughty chair) Ayalon thought that one up I understand, because Israel wanted a more balanced relationship with the outside world. Mitchell is going to Moscow to discuss israel without even having the courtesy of going to see Netanyahu to go through what is going to be discussed which shows how succesful the current Foreign Minister's policies have been. No wonder the nightclub bouncer is stamping his feet and waving his arms about whilst sat on the toilet. Israel is no longer seen as part of the solution, Israel is now seen as the problem. happy days at long last Israel is being brought to account.

Lieberman is saying: 1) Israel has to stand ABOVE the law, above international and humanitarian law. 2) The international community should be forced to share Lieberman's prejudices towards the Palestinians, they should not be regarded as humans.

It isn't Lieberman's hissy fit, nor is it Ravid's breathless spin. It is this: Mitchell intends to ditch his trip to Israel and instead go straight to Moscow to consult with the rest of the Quartet. Got that? No? Let me spell it out: Lieberman is furious because Mitchell has stopped talking **TO** Israel, and is instead going to Moscow to talk **ABOUT** Israel. This is a bad - a very bad - development for Israel, and just how bad that is can't be hidden by Ravid's breathless recitation of Lieberman's bombast. They would both have more influence if they were to bay at the moon. Certainly no-one on Planet Earth is listening to them any more...

Did our national Lieberman prepare the stool for Ban in front of his throne? if not , harry up because Saturday's visite is nigh. And to think that this person is still our foreign minister is just above all expectations. LONG LIVE LIEBERMAN but for gods sake not in the foreign office, somewhere in the desert please, SO HELP US GOD

Here's the REAL message from this article: Mitchell is giving up on talking sense to this Israeli govt, and so he is skipping his trip to Israel and is going directly to Moscow. And he is going to Moscow to discuss with the rest of the Quartet what to do about Israel's intransigence. Lieberman is squealing because of THAT development, because it scares him shitless. Lieberman: Israel expects a more objective and constructive approach from the international community. THEY HAS STOPPED LISTENING TO YOU, AVIGDOR. *sheesh* Get a clue, dude....