UN chief Ban in Ramallah: Settlements undermining peace

This morning, the doha debates were on....there was a panel of 4.....2 on the hamas side, and 2 on the PA side... The only discussion taking place, is how best to get rid of ALL of israel...this is not about gaza and WB, it is about israel INSIDE the green line...israel rightly knows what they are facing...the people here on haarets and elsewhere around the world who THINK this code word "occupation" is about gaza and west bank are either delusional, ill informed, ignorant or anti semitic. It IS that simple. All of you who deny this with this excuse or that excuse simply are avoiding the truth, as time and time again is laid bare from the mouths of the PA, HAMAS, the lebanese, the syrians, the iranians, the saudis etc... What a disgrace the arabs are and by defacto, Obama. Obama KNOWS that the arabs at large are not talking about WB and Gaza, nor about golan or shaaba farms...HE KNOWS and yet he won't come out and say to the arabs, until you accept Israel even INSIDE the green line, we will not engage in a false peace process, and not only that, but we will strengthen israel and strengthen her security. Nabil shaath and abdullah abdullah are on the PA side of this farce called a debate in doha..and BOTH of them are for taking down all of israel. This is the so called moderate side of the palestinians....what they want is perfectly crystal clear. It is a complete joke...if you ask me, israel is being pushed into a false peace, KNOWING that this is a trojan horse. Obama is a real disgrace. He is very consciously using the rise of global anti semitism to push forward with geopolitical realignment and appeasement of the oil rich arabs. I dont call that leadership, I dont call it honest, I dont call it fair, what I do call it is dangerous. Who is the president who will knowingly sacrifice one of his best friends for oil....??? is this what america now stands for? lying? racism? It is PLAIN TO SEE....obama is clearly a weak preisdent who in fact, is more indebted to saudi arabia and their oil that bush ever was...and yet out of the other side of his mouth he says he wants energy independance! I mean, come on, has no one figured out this man? It is just disgusting. He can go to copenhagen to pitch for the olympics but he has no time to go to his best friend israel where the need to address real global peace is so vital...he is supposed to be all about unifying and healing, yet he cant go to israel to speak about the falsehood of anti semitism? he sends a clown like biden but doesn't go himself? that tells you much ......israelis have bled and died to PROTECT universally held values of freedom and tolerance, supposedly american values but obama can't now support these universal values? If the arabs want peace, it's about recognizing israel for now and forever, as a JEWISH HOMELAND, SOVEREIGN, LEGITIMATE. All this other fluff is bullshyte. The whole notion of occupation is a canard...if you ask me, israel should say to obama, Mr. President, unless you come out and speak the truth, we are not interested in one more day of these farcical negotiations. This is not about 1967, it is only about 1948.

# 79 Maintenance Man is right,except for his last sentence. That's really too far fetched. But # 81 Judge. Judge of what ? Women's basketball team ?

Will settle for nothing less than the expectations of Israel that have been outlined by international consensus. It's interesting that the Israeli government is so involved with its agenda otherwise, that it's apparently unable to perceive the growing tide of international outrage over its activities - and the accompanying likelihood of more direct international involvement in a quick and equitable realization of a two-state solution. Something that will undoubtedly deprive Israel of most of its more covetous objectives.

76 HOW ABOUT USING THE NAME YOU HAVE BEEN POSTING IN THE PAST. bY YOUR ACTIONS YOU HAVE SHOWN I DO NOT LIE 80 YOU AT LEAST HAVE THE COURAGE TO POST UNDER ANAME THAT WE KNOW. please tell me how I lied, Jewish National fund bought land from Arab landlords. When the Arabs lost wars they started they also lost land. Has the Un taken any action against those that bomb buses cut off heads

Surer than anything, such Israel belligerency will cause Israel to implode. Just a matter of time.

UN Chef. If this Ban-ky-moon,although,soft spoken doesn't BRING Shalit with him. Then the whole world should know that this UN organization is a bluff & is under the pay of criminal & thuggish regimes from the Arab/Moslem world & the African world. UN troops sent to guard Darfur refugees; Women & young girls were raped. In Yougslavia under the auspices of the UN (Its chief at the time Butrus,Butrus Gali) Over 12,000 men women & children Massacred. A Dutch contingent was in charge under the UN. Was anyone brought to the Hague for trial ? Till today there is an eerie silence. But the dead are shouting for Justice. In Food for Oil.(Under Kofi Annan) Chief of the UN at that time.Charges were brought against him & his son for embezzlement.Tens of thousands of Iraqi children were starving to death. The UN. How come that people who cannot solve their problems in their own country come here to show-off. Settle,first N.Korea only after you succeed come give us advice

Will settle for nothing less than the expectations of Israel that have been outlined by international consensus. It's interesting that the Israeli government is so involved with its agenda otherwise, that it's apparently unable to perceive the growing tide of international outrage over its activities - and the accompanying likelihood of more direct international involvement in a quick and equitable realization of a two-state solution. Something that will undoubtedly deprive Israel of most of its more covetous objectives.

Either the Pals come to the table or they don't. The thought of peaceful co-existence with Jews is just intolerable for them. Especially since the Pals would always be unable to measure up. Arab inadequacy is the root of it all.

Israel should not allow any UN or external entities to step foot on the shores of Israel only to give them a propaganda platform to trash Israel and crusade the Jihadism of the Islamist-Jihadists on Israel.

...that keeps being beaten. There is no need to stop settlements unless there is a peace treaty. That is what negotiations are for. It is a red herring concocted after the petulant obama crowd had already accepted the apology for the trivial incident which supposedly upset them(insult). It's all fake. No Israeli govt has stopped building in Jerusalem in prior negotiations. Jerusalem has been take back from the receivers of stolen property and annexed. There is not going to be any peace, the arabs are just trying to get whatever concessions they can before negotiations rather than from negotiations. Obama is trying to cover up all his other foreign policy and domestic failures by beating on Israel. He was financed into harvard by saudi prince talal and financed into the presidency by Soros. Israel would do better to seize the saudi oilfields as reparations for decades of terror finance and wean off from US "aid".

What nerve to interfere in the internal functioning of a democratic state! Let him go to Russia and ask them to give Georgia back its land that the Russians just took from them. Let him go to North Korea and ask them to free their own citizens. Let him go to Gaza and ask them to stop firing rockets into Israel. And, of course, let him go to Jerusalem and dclare that city the undivided capital of the Land of the Jewish People. Otherwise, let Ban be banned!!!

You HAVE THE COURAGE TO POST WITH THE NAME WE KNOW. yOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT i POST BUT i AM NOT A LIER.

Please tell me how I lied. Didnt Jewish National Fund buy land from the Arab landlords.Didnt tne Arabs start wars and lost. Along with that they lost land.Tell me how I lied and use the name you post with. Next name you can use is coward

Not Occupied Territory, but an occupied country as far as hundreds of millions of individuals are concerned !

to read the israeli way of thinking on this topic. Reading some arguments in the talkback were just shocking, others ridiculous. Some of you do not even realize that many of the arguments are irrelevant and useless. יהוה?, God and Allah may help you all.

I'm bored of hearing these childish asnwers: "But you know, he did this to me". Or "he started". Give the world proper answers to the question: Why are you settling in a "foreign" land. And look in our eyes while saying it. Your hate seems to be that deep, that you even want to risk the support of the US and the UN. Very sad.

Whew... who let this skunk in? O, it was senile Peres, self-serving Barak, and quivering jellopudding the Booboo

Someday when oil is not needed for energy there will be peace. The Arabs will have to figure a way to earn a living when the petro dollars dry up. There won't be enough money to fund wars and terrorism. Hopefully, that day will be soon. Then the Arabs will embrace Israeli science and technology and Arabs and Jews will work together in peace and prosperity.

Blah blah blah :)

You need to finish your homework before you can use the internet. Go on now and eat your vegetables little boy and let those with 1/2 brains post here until you grow one.

You don't understand; truth is not useful when defending Israel, so Tobia disregards it.

If Israeli Settlements are illegal so is the USA illegal. The USA is currently occupying Native Indian and Mexican land. The Quartet is made up of Hypocrites. Russia is currently occupying Chechnya as well as slaughtering Chechins. The USA who is occupying Iraq and Afganistan. The European Union is in Afganistan killing under the guise of NATO. Russia is occupying Georgia. The Quartet is a joke made up of hypocrites. The UN is a irrelevent organization made up of Dictators and thugs. If you anti Israel people really cared about peace you would be protesting these hypocrites. But your antisemetism is like a desease and it overtakes you such that you are addicted to blaming your problems on a group of Jewish settlers who are settling there ancient homeland. Judaism predates Christianity and Islam. Jews have lived in that part of the world for four thousand years. Yet you enlightened people wish to create Jew free zones like the Nazi`s. Racist Obama like Hitler loves Jew Free Zones.

Seems you believe that the whole world shares your opinion. And even if it did share your opinion, that doesn't make it RIGHT, LEGAL or MORAL. The reality is that Israel has every right to build ANYWHERE in the lands defensively liberated from Jordan's illegal occupation. Ban and the UN are Arab/Islamist lapdogs. Who the heck is HE to determine what is illegal? And why the silence against the unworkable "culture of resistance" and Fatah's and Hamas' primary goal of taking it all and destroying Israel? What a laughable double standard. Good that there are still some realists in the world who can see through that rhetoric.

the process by convincing Hamas to let Shalit go? It would be an act of kindness and trust which most Israelis and Jews would respect.

UN ever approved of any of the lies you list

There is nothing the palestinian & the arab did & doing now is not undermine peace ! Which "peace" Ban is talking about ?! Those who kept the conflict going is what the palestinians are saying and doing for over 60 years now and nothing else ! The fight is in their blood not only against Israel but also between themselves and against the entire world ! "UN chief Ban in Ramallah: Settlements undermining peace" Ed The world is going too far exposing their shameful ignorance !

"settlements destroyed trust and make israel a military state" A What made Israel stronger than all the arab countries and in many wars the arab countries waged against Israel was the arab countries always declared they want to destroy Israel not a minute before that ?! Settlements came later and made Israel exist. Again blaming Israel with fabricated lies ! If you don't make your fact right you will always lose !

Un approves of bus bombings. cutting off heads, bombing teenage night club. Have they said anything about the treatment of those thar do not pray to Allaha.BUT let Isreal( Jew ) do something to protect themselves, into the ovens This is not occupied territiory. Jewish National Fund wrote out checks to Arab landlords, Countries that started wars lost along with land, Will un speak out if Jews again mistreated. I doubt it

"It is the Red Cross` task to visit prisoners of war. The Red Cross is a UN subsidiairy. It is therefore Mr Ban to secure Gilad Shalit get the visits he deserves. But for Israel bashers like you, Israelis are not entitled to human rights." I seem to recall Israel bombing UN faciliites during their "self-defense" intiatives. Where'nt the UN workers entitled to human rights? Could you imagine what happen if Iran killed even half of what your dementated little right-wing army kills in a year? Fools...

... and that the present Israeli government, as well as the PLO, are both equaly unsuited for making peace, yet if we were to rely on Mr Ban, not only that there would be no peace, but a war would probably come about.

It is the Red Cross' task to visit prisoners of war. The Red Cross is a UN subsidiairy. It is therefore Mr Ban to secure Gilad Shalit get the visits he deserves. But for Israel bashers like you, Israelis are not entitled to human rights.

I haven't got the answers but I am an Australian living in Tel Aviv and see a lot. I bet you haven't been to Israel to talk the way you have. All Arab religious sites are well-kept and protected by Israelis. I wish I could say the same for North Cyprus where Moslems have destroyed sites of other religions. Only Israel will ensure that the old city of Jerusalem is accessible to all faiths and that is my only concern. Pessach is soon and every Jew around the world will pray next year in Jerusalem, not Palestine.

There is not one entity on this entire planet that has any empathy, must less sympathy, for the supposed plight of the jew State. In fact not only can that State kiss bye bye to expansion anywhere but probably to a large chunk of those facts on the ground. But what the hay it was a real ride while it lasted wasn't it.

Mr. Ban Ki-moon, Sorry, but land seized during a war is not occupied territory, nor is it illegal. I would suggest that you focus on your own country first and make peace with your northern neighbor before criticizing anyone else. In the meantime a first step would be to remove the DMZ and open the border. Lead by example!

Any Turkish incitement to genocide has nothing to do with the validity of his statement about israel. Instead of changing the subject, why not speak to the substance of what he said?

will isreal recogise palestine to the 67 boaders as a palistinan state ?

I think the UN and the Quartet are making a serious error in simply making the settlements the main hinderence of peace. Where is the condemnation of terror and missiles being fired into Israel. This one sided condemnation of Israel will only set the peace process back. When will the UN and the Europeans call a spade a spade. When will they have the guts to tell the Palestinians terrorism is savagery and will get you nothing return. Simply castigating Israel will only make the Israelis more distrustfull of them. What a pathetic diplomatic initiative. Is this the best they can do? Give the Palestinians a free pass to duck their responsibilities. THis is what has happened since day one. No wonder terrorist organizations still exist. No wonder Israel had to build the security fence. Way to go Quartet and UN you have shown your true colors and have already proven your not an objective group of people.

in the near future, then why Israel should not build new settlements? Lets review what had happend in the last 40 years. Egypt had accepted to make peace with Israel, gets the Sinai back and there is calm with Eypgt border, Syria if was clever enough like Eypgt if they would not miss the train to make peace with Israel at the time Egypt was making peace with Israel, today Golan was in Syrian soverignty. Arafat didn't accepted in 2000 Clintons plan now they playing the misrables. The reason Arafat didn't accepted was the right of return of 4 Million Pallies back to Israel. The issue is not building, the issue is to have an intension to make peace. Pals doesn't have any intension to make peace. If we wouldn't build they would create another pretex. if Pals wants to have a state they cannot impose any terms to Israel to make peace, like the pretex of right of return. Aby

Bibi,s idea of building lots of Housing Units in the West bank and East Jerusalem, is to help the Palestinians Refugees to settle in the settlers(who will go back to Israel after negociations) homes, rather than RETUNING to ISRAEL in their OLD HOUSES. That SHREWED thinking can only come from BIBI,. I bet you that what it IS.

He said it clearly, any settlement build on OCCUPIED TERRITORY is ILLEGAL. Soon he will be branded as Anti semite for telling the truth just as the consciencious Zionist Jurist MR RICHARD GOLDSTONE.(A jewel model of Jewish VALUES)

What were the boarders ,What year did this happen .Who was the leader ? Tell us all more of your fairy tale .Where is a document showing the creation of a pal state and its boarders and its government ? What year was this ?

Then they should allow Building Materials for the rebuilding of these homes, unless of course they have an Ulterior motive?

Another piece of garbage from the UN .His words are worth less than nothing . The whole bunch should do the world a favor and suck on a tail pipe.

Matteo - "speaking up" will hardly do the trick.All the "speaking up" for decades has gone with the wind and will continue to do so. What is needed is not futile word but some concrete acion. David

Freddy u are delusional, the League of nations PARTITIONED PALESTINE, yes it did not say Jews must take arab land, it did not say settlements must be created on arab land, it SPLIT PALESTINE into 2 lands 1 for the local arabs and 1 for the displaced jews from World War 2. The Arabs rejected this partitioning of their land and as such started a simultaneous war that they lost, due to the funding and training of Jewish Terrorist organisations around in Palestine PreIsrael. This is all well and good had things stopped there however Israel has methodicly over the last 40 years attempted to Eradicate any palestinian identity and recreate a biblical era civilisation on land that is not theirs. If we are using History as a basis for the justification of modern civilisations and the theft of sovereign land then Israel has no right to exist and neither does palestine, lebanon or syria, this should merely be one united country called Phoenicia.

Ban Ki-Moon can suck it.

Yonatan is correct that the settlements are not the real obstacle to peace. The real obstacle is the continued refusal of the Palestinians, whatever faction, to recognize Israel as the Homeland of the Jewish People. If territory won in war was illegal then the U.S., Russia, England and others would have to give back a lot of territory. The UN chief should know better!

""Let us be clear. All settlement activity is illegal anywhere in occupied territory and must be stopped." This is what the rest of the world is saying. Is the whole world wrong ???

What is the problem with Israelis leaving occupied land and let the Palestinians build their state? Isn't that a right that is recognized by all nations in the world? Isn't it a right for all Palestinians to live in peace? All world leaders must come to the Palestinian territories in order to watch whats really happening on the ground. This is important because it would stimulate the peace process and introduce reasonable solutions for everyone. World leaders shall not try to make peace without visiting the place even though they get reports through their representatives or other authorities. It will definitely make them think about the necessity to make peace in this land. Israelis and Pals must fix this without any provocation or denying the other. This can be translated into actions once those who have the power stop their occupation.

The root cause of this war is the rejection of a Jewish state in the Middle East, not settlements.

The main theme here is the Un is useless. Well to Israel that is certainly the case. As the UN and just about everybody and his brother is on israels case. AS General Petraeus rightly pointed out Israel and its illegal actions is the major destabalizing situation. I am afraid the game is up. You can continue to insult and Israel has done that to just about every country and institutio ,attempt to ignore but Israel is slowly but surely being roped in. all the useless hwta about Turkey, DMZ, Sudan Somalia etc pale by comparison with what Israels actions might unleash. You cant get away with it anymore.

And I am deeply concerned about the worsening situation at the UN specifically the statements of a Secretary-Genereal who knows nothing about the Jewish presence in Jerusalem for millenia.

then I'd be for doing it immediately after the Sabbath is over. But the settlements are not the real obstacle to peace. The real obstacle is the continued refusal of the Palestinians, whatever faction, to recognize Israel as the Homeland of the Jewish People. I doubt that will happen in the near, or even distant, future.

such a serious question from such an important person as yourself

just what I thought: nothing!

Ramallah is a beautiful city with the help of the UN. Usually they try to stand next to rubble for photo ops. Please note this time they are not and Ramallah is not the destroyed city you see on the news.

Only building settlements will make the palestinians talk ! And without talking there will never be change ! The only time Abbas start talking and ends the moratorium on his silence when Israel announced the buildings in Jerusalem ! The truth is, the palestinians leadership have nothing more to say than what they have been saying again & again, and mostly blaming Israel ! And all that they are doing is only frustrating Israel with acts of terror so Israel can respond and the palestinians use that to blame Israel. A vicious circle of repeating itself ! Peace will be only when the world will be tired of this game of nothing new.

Brief geography lesson given and now brief history lesson. We Israelis were quite happy with what the world "gave us" in 1948 - after that came many wars where we fought like lions against huge armies (Arab) America attacked Iraq for WOMD and we built our land on territories we won. Eat your hearts out Israeli haters.

Isn't the real problem that Fatah and Hamas don't speak so who is Israel to make peace with? Fatah talks peace whilst Israel gets rockets. Typical fo the Arabs as they speak with two tongues. Everyone forgets that it was the Arabs who started to try and get rid of Israel and will never stop till they do. I would like the Palestinians to take a leap of faith and bring Gilad home to his family.

Fredy Ross believes only the jews have a right to judge anything....to bad Fredy Ross but the goyim majority does not agree and we do have ways of making you comply

"We all know that settlements are the obstacle to peaces" I think you mean "Pieces". Obstacle to Israel in Pieces no doubt. BTW Doesn't mean that if you're Paranoid they're not out to get you.

...it's in the Pudding.

OK we will stop bulding, having babies,stop defending ourselves, stop breathing if it will make you all happy - but do you really think these people will build a State in 24 months??? Shoot the moon, Bankey.

The UN wants to bring peace to the middle east by have Israel giving up its status as a nation. International law is a joke. All nations ignore the UN and International law, but when Israel does it to insure their existence everyone jumps on Israel. Israel has probably the best record of any nation on human rights for everyone. If Israel took over Jerusalem like they should the Arabs in Israel will still rather live there. Why? Because they know some radical will not decide that Arab group needs to be wiped out. Israel needs to take over all of Israel and follow Psalm 111. This will be an example for the world.

Israel is upset. For the famous crippling sanctions against Iran will never happen. We all know that. Period. Now, the settlements. Here we have an out of control situation. The right wing coalition has far more power and is wringing concessions from the PM, who in actual fact seeks peace, even with Syria, which in essence is a far better starting point than with Hamas and the PA. Then we have corruption, rioting and a host of horrific scenarios, which are being fueled by even Al Qaeda affiliates. The UN Chief must realize that we are dealing with a mixed pot, where the clear winners are the Neo Con Israeli and Fundamentalist Islamic Global Jihad. Both are heading for a head on train smash since there is only one set of railway lines. Good day from snowy sweet Swiss Alps.

A friendly reminder to the world. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and should remain undivided. Nobody has the right to decide about the fate of Jerusalem but the jewish people. The rest is politics.

Words from someone who lives in the most law abiding and civilized country on earth. Please keep your hypocrisy for your lot.

Do you honestly belive this? If so then why do you get angry if other people claim this action of Israel too? History has shown that Israel cannot be trusted. the proof is in the pudding so please no more Islamistan and Londibad lines until you have proof that non(tenuously linked) Al Quaeda related (which the US created btw)

Obviously in Harmony. But must they persist in giving it the "Heil Hitler"

The peace of Islam simply means the end of Israel. Israel must secure itself. The message that Israeli leaders must give is simple: Israel will not commit suicide. Israel will fight for its land as it has fought before and may the God of Israel help Israel as He has done before. This message can be a wake up call for Europeans as well. Europe, like Israel, allowed 'desperate' Muslims to settle in its lands and within 20 years Europeans are facing a Muslim population that threatens the very political and social nature of European states. What will be of Europe in 20 more years time? What peace demands will Europeans face in 20 years time when even now shariah is being forced on many parts of European communities? Why are Westerners not willing to see that Islam systematically persecutes minorities in every single majority Muslim state. There are no-go-zones in Europe now...what will there be in 20 years time?

BUT what was the excuse for reaching peace before he was kidnapped?

I wish these international leaders would stop pandering. When Secretary General Moon goes to Ramallah he needs to tell them to stop rioting and to stop overreacting to any and all perceived provocation. When he goes to Jerusalem (will he go to Ramat Shlomo?), he needs to tell Israelis to stop creating artificial obstacles to returning to negotiations. When he goes to Gaza he needs to tell them to release Cp. Shalit, reconcile with the PA, renounce violence, recognize Israel, and accept previously signed agreements between Israel and the PA. Unfortunately, he will simply tell each side what it WANTS to hear. That won't move us forward on anything. Secretary Clinton does the same thing, by the way. We need to start telling people that making peace won't be easy, that it will require everybody making concessions starting with YOU. Come on!

The UN is a misnomer and doesn't represent all nations. For many years it has been against Israel so what is new? Did anyone notice when Haiti was destroyed that all the UN personal were staying in the 5 star hotel. The world can't afford the UN.

After all it is a well-known fact that the United Nations' role as a member of the Quartet should be to devote its time to freeing a single prisoner rather than to negotiating a peace treaty between the two peoples who have been fighting for several decades...

because he isnt israels wipping boy, he is representing the entire world and all the international laws and resolutions that Israel has broken and ignored.

all people, loudly against the illegal settlements. let ban ki moon speak up, let the US speak up, let europe speak up, let us all speak up. israeli settlements are illegal.

If Israel went back to 67 borders and dismantled every single settlement for a real and lasting peace I would support it 100%. I just think that most of you are so unrealistic it's crazy. There was no peace before any settlements, what makes you think it would be different now? After leaving Gaza, tell me how that has worked out ? What you fail to realize is that "most" palestinians goal is to drive Israel into the sea.

In the early 1920's the League of Nations passed resolutions that Palestine should be settled by the Jews. When the U.N. come into being, it took all of the League of Nations resolutions as valid. So according to the U.N. Jewish settlements in Palestine are legal. Doesn't Mr. Ban know the resolutions of his own organization?

Mr. Ban is not telling his north korean cousins to lift the blockade and let his people go

They are built in disputed territory, The West bank has never been a palestinian state. Despite U.N. condemnation, there are no sanctions against Israel. That means, NO PROBLEM. However, the Secretary General of the U N might be right. Settlements hardly contribute to peace. That is another story.

terrorism also undermines peace efforts. And rockets from Gaza too!

Shalit is the only prisoner in Gaza, but in Israel there are more than 10.000 Palestinians imprisoned. Among them, children, women and democratically elected members of the palestinian parlament. Therefore, dear Fredy Ross, the UN chief has a lot to do for justice. The world is aware that Israel is applying double standard for their interests and the interests of the Palestinians. This must and will be stopped.

The UN needs to understand the plight of the "Poor" "Victims" in Gaza was self-inflicted. 8000 unanswered rockets brings one to a point where the insanity must stop. Moon, their plight was a direct result of unending Hamas terror against INNOCENT Israelis. Truth be told, water and electricity should have been terminated also. Please don't skew truth and history, Mr. Moon. Petra, you're correct, the UN is useless. Think of how much money could be raised by selling off all that prime NY real estate. Maybe we can take the proceeds of the UN and put it toward Obama's Health Care fiasco :). If the UN wants to be helpful, go after Hamas, Hez, Iran and MOST IMPORTANTLY, FREE Shalit. The rest is UN jibberish.

Freddy---do you really think the planet was put here to serve Israel and it whims. Grow up fool.

Why is it always Israel's fault? So it takes a little arab land now and then for its settlements--the arabs have so much--and it imprisons the Gazans and starves them and bombs them--but remember, a few of them fired home made rockets into sacred Israel. Doesn't that justify anything Israel wants to do! And don't forget the Old testament which says God gave Jews the land, and then there is the Holocaust and anti-semitism.

History. Peace cannot be built on injustice that ignoring the past is.

peace is achieved when kidnapped Israeli soldier Shalit is returned, the rockets from Gaza stop and when pre talk 'demands' only upon Israel are no longer a reality that threatens peace. The UN has become useless.

We all know that settlements are the obstacle to peaces so now just get on with the peace bit of it.

Objectively one cannot deny that what he said is true.

Instead of deciding the fate of East Jerusalem.

Ok so now what will you do about it? The mouse roared and you sanctioned Iran and it did nothing illegal. What will happen to the mouse that is doing something illegal?

Ban has got to be made to understand that the UN caused the middle east dilemma when it created Israel. It is indisputable that, in the creation of Israel, Arabs were displaced. It is unjust and unfair to take people`s property for no compensation. The Jews haven't had it too great either living under siege for 60 years. The UN must establish a Middle East Compensation Commission to adjudicate claims from everybody, INCLUDING JEWS, who lost property as a result of the UN`s creation of Israel. Just compensation needs to be paid by the UN for a Release of Claims. If you lost your property and had to live in squalor in a camp you too would harbor resentment. It`s nonsense that Arabs left voluntarily. Leaving is not the same as abandoning and disclaiming rights to property, which in the western world is a sacrosanct right. We all leave our homes. When we get back they`re still ours

Pal's have ceated their own reality, Enough blaming Israel. Pal's need to take responsibility for the failure of their leadership, and admit their mistakes. Continuing on the same path would mean the Pal's don't want peace.

You might remind the Israelis that settlements are a clear violation of International Law!

I doubt Moons' own assistants care less what the UN chief says or does either.