U.S.-Israel tensions ignite 'war of words' among Israel lobbies

"policies and horrors perpetrated by the Zionist regime that governs the State of Israel" Give me a break. Here is the soul mate to the people who call J Street anti-semetic and anti-Isarel. Opposite perspective. Same craziness. If there is to be peace, the center must drive it.

J-Street's, and Obama's, goal of implementing a construction freeze in E. Jerusalem makes a lot of sense and is supported by many in Kadima, Labor and Meretz. Why, then, the overheated rhetoric about them being anti-semites, communists, traitors, anti-Israel and so on? I think these are the reasons: 1. Extremists love a black and white world and it is natural for them to believe that those who disagree with them must be in a conspiracy with evil. 2. Extremists are deathly afraid of the consequences of their positions (and rightly so) and react hysterically to criticism. 3. Extremists understand in their guts that their positions are in part based on fantasy and denial, and they don't like family pointing it out. There is much to be gained by engagement over demonization. The right has some valid points as does J-Street. If there is to be peace, the center must drive the process, not the extremists.

Not bad Moshe, but do you know where you are going when you die? What do you beleive is the truth, you must beleive in some thing as you leave a letter out in the God reference? You seem to have strong beleif that a lot of people are wrong in this world, but that you are the only one that has his head screwed on correctly. Have you studied either one, the Bible or the Torah, if yes give me some examples of your proof.

I think you linving a nice dream,enjoy it while you can...is all you know,is attacking and killing,wake uup it's the 21st century,it's time to be civilized....someone .

I work as a volunteer for J-Street, and am getting frustrated at all the attacks directed toward us, claiming that we are 'Anti-Israel'. J-Street is not Anti-Israel, we're very much for it, and want to see it continue to exist in peace. J-Street supports Israel's right to defend itself, disapproves of the anti-Israel bias of the Goldstone report, and opposes a nuclear Iran. Just because J-Street is against settlements, the blockade on Gaza, and is for the two-state solution doesn't make it Anti-Israel. If one is truly Pro-Israel, they should speak out against the actions of the current Israeli government (No, we're not Anti-Semitic, we criticize certain actions of the Israeli government, not the Israeli people.) that lower cause the international community to shift their political sympathies toward the Palestinian leadership. When Israel loses international support, Israel loses its ability to exist. Security and safety for the Israelis, sovereignty for the Palestinians.

So what. Is it necessary that being pro-Israel, pro-peace requires being Jewish? Of course not. The fact that you raise such an issue says more about your mindset than it does about J Street.

CJK: "letters have no legal binding" If the letter contains a committment from that letter-writer to a course of action then it is, indeed, legally binding the moment the other side acknowledges receipt of the letter. CJK: "i had told you so before." Thank you, Judge Kohn. You have indeed told us all many, many times that Up is Down, Black is White, Left is Right, and, generally, displaying that almost EVERYTHING that you hold to be true is completely and utterly mistaken.

You and all the zionists fanatics should be forever grateful to JStreet. They show the existence of decent people in the most unexpected places.

You and all the zionists fanatics should be forever grateful to JStreet. They show the existence of decent people in the most unexpected places.

nick The reason why the kid is mad is you ve been stealing things from him you and your friends stand at the gate of the school and stop him and his sister from going in eventhough its his school as well.Then there was the time you locked him and three of his cousins in the the bicycle shed for along time in fact i think their still there. one of the cousins is only three and his very hungry and frightened.the kid is now wondering why you beat him up so badly. We all wondering Nick

they get a computer and think Israel will somehow dissolve due to their anti semitic drivel and hyperbole. words are cheap, actions speak volumes.

really needs work.

letters have no legal binding. i had told you so before.

so it will be impossible to respond. The post is always the same, Israel is always bad, arab actions are always ignored. There is no insight, no new information. He is an outsider that hates Israel. OK we get it. There is no reason to read the same thing over and over. Don't respond, I won't read it anyway.

A deafening silence from the Israel-can-do-no-wrongers!! i wonder why? Let us hope that the 400 page brief filed in support of the submission will be made public - it should make for some very interesting reading.

Abraham Foxman should be careful, he is skating on thin ice here. Pentagon will handle what is in the best interest of the US and the Commander in Chief will give the orders, not Abe Foxman. I heard he even had a go at Gen. Petraeus.

"What sovereign territory do you mean.?" "Law??" //Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, May 15, 1948 ?MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law.// http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/decad169.asp BTW You ought get your 'accounter' to teach you how to spell.

"Like withdraw to your sovereign territories from a non vetoed UNSC res." Really???? uhhhh I bet not. What sovereign territory do you mean.? Partition lines?????Let me laugh laudly. 67 borders????? Mmmmmmmm. It will be more and less that. Clinton proposals, Taba proposals.More and less. The UNSC will accept whatever is agreed between the sides. Law?? Well...you know I hire an accounter. he does his best to play according to the law, and tries his best to find out "wholes" on the law and does his best to prevent at least be sanctioned by the law. That's all it takes. So far veto in the Security council is part of the law, or at least it is what prevents sanctions. It's all what it takes. Non moral... non moral......uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh This is a political conflict about frontiers to be defined by the parts. SC resolutions are recommendations. If they were binding there were sanctions accompanying them.

OK, the Jews argue among themselves, nothing new here. But the US Jewish community is the greatest friend Israel has. So what are they advising Israel to do about Jerusalem? We know what J-Street is saying:;Construction in Jerusalem and the Territories is an impediment to peace. But what does AIPAC say, (1) "You build and we will take care of US politicians"? Or do they say, (2) "It's too hot a subject now, so cool it now and restart tomorrow"? Or do they say, (3) "Do what you think is right and we will support you"? My guess is (1). AIPAC is not interested in peace. Right after the Oslo agreement was signed, AIPAC pushed the Congress to mandate the transfer of the US embassy to Jerusalem, contrary to the wishes of then President Clinton and then PM Rabin. The idea was to undermine Oslo. But the transfer was such an outrageous thing to do to the peace process that both Clinton and Bush (the stupid one) refrained from doing.

bolstered only by the US veto vote and stuff morality. Cute... "The only binding thing is direct negotiations between palestinians and Israel." Er 'P'alestinians and Israel. You don't want to get a name as a bigot do you? "palestinians palestinians palestinian palestinians." tch tch tch http://wp.me/pDB7k-dN " At the end of the day, in the absence of solution it might be an American mandate compelling to both parts. A type of recommendation "difficult" to reject" Like withdraw to your sovereign territories from a non vetoed UNSC res. Will the little red heiffer dare to try and kick the sh*te out of the china shoppe.

With Mitchell scheduled for a return to Israel on Sunday and Nethanyahu scheduled for the AIPAC meeting in the US on the same Sunday nobody from the Obama administration will be there for a kiss and make up photo op. It would be a nice signal to AIPAC if nobody from the administration showed up and left it to be an Israeli event and then order them to register as a 'foreign agent'. Nethanyahu will have the opportunity to adress his peers and Joe Lieberman and his ilk can join them. Nam them and shame them for what they are...Foreign Agents.

WASHINGTON, March 17, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ ---- "The US Department of Justice has been formally asked to begin regulating the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) as the foreign agent of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. A 392 page legal filing presented by a four person IRmep delegation in a two hour meeting with top officials of the Internal Security Section substantiated the following case for AIPAC's immediate registration"

Abe Foxman is way off his rocker. Israel has been nothing but a strategic liability and an economic drain for the US, at least since the end of the Cold War if not before. To actually state that "support of Israel has served the US interests more than supporting anyone else in the world" shows an unparalleled level of delusion. In fact, support of Israel has undermined the US's standing in most of the world.

The SC knows very well how to deal with the bad guys. In other words, it understands when a rogue state mut be compelled to obey and when moral recommendations are made. Sanction is the most important part of the law. Sanctions are being organized against Iran, because it is really the bad guy. Israel Palestine is a conflict due to be resolved by negotiations. No compelling sanctions against Israel means nothing to worry about...till the U.States will change its mind. The U.Nations sense of moral justice, is something that Israel can obviate.

White papers and partition recommendations are not relevant anymore. Non binding= non important. Who cares and who looks at them. The only binding thing is direct negotiations between palestinians and Israel. At the end of the day, in the absence of solution it might be an American mandate compelling to both parts. A type of recommendation "difficult" to reject. However, I wonder, how will an American map of the final status of territories look like? Clinton proposals ? Taba proposals? Lets remain that the later were not accepted by the palestinians. I bet that any American proposal will look the same. Jewish neighborhood of Jerusalem will be annexed to Israel and Arab neighborhoods will be part of the palestinian state. Obviously, refugees will not be rellocated in Israel. The question is who will dare to reject the American mandate. ? I have a bet: the palestinians.

the US what? Answer: The perception that the US supports the Israeli policy of denying indigenous non-Israelis, in the occupied territories, full participation in the political process of formulating the policies and laws that are used by Israel to control and colonize those occupied territories. Many Americans realize that the "light unto the world" is treating the non-Israelis in the same sad way the US treated native American Indians in the 19th and early 20th centuries. I believe that Israel believes that it has a "manifest destiny" to create a "greater Israel" from the Med. sea to the Jordanian border with with the Indigenous Arabs/Semites relegated to several non-contiguous tribal-areas/refugee-camps/reservations with no representation in the Israeli government controlling those reservations.

"Maybe it is not tactially convinient to settle in the West Bank." Wear your shoes on backwards too? It IS tactically convenient. Facts on the ground. You know that old saying 'possession is 9/10ths of the law. (Used to convict criminals) " However it is not ILEGAL" The UNSC says it is illegal. You know they do, you must, knowing so much about the issue and having been pointed to the information so many times. Unless of course you don't read the information, in which case, you're not a serious contender, arguing in ignorance instead. "..the only thing that legally counts are the binding resolutions of the Security Council. That means Chapter 7" Strange.. Chapter 7 is about ACTION (first word) which might take place after Chapter 6. Chapter 6 resolutions are based in binding law. Chapt 7 is the possible sentence.. The US Veto vote has been on Article 7 ACTIONS. Binding law still stands, toothless, the breach still stands.

It's quite clear what they actually say.. http://wp.me/PDB7k-Q#Mandate

living on the dole in israel, Palestine. Is there anything compelling you poor dear, lo live there? I live in Japan, but I am not Japanese, and I do not make fuss because the locals do not wish to give me Shikoku as my private country to exploit. Just go back to where you came from.

with more funnies ! remember your old posts b i do your predictions were all crud ! what was that about obama ???

Nosene. Sure Jstreet is legitimate.It is a debate between Zionists. Maybe it is not tactially convinient to settle in the West Bank. However it is not ILEGAL Israel has a legitimate claim over Judea and Samaria, not less, and even more than palestinians. All at all however, these are disputed territories and their fate will be defined in negotiations. In the meantime the only thing that legally counts are the binding resolutions of the Security Council. That means Chapter 7. In other words the only thing that legally counts is the American veto. Maybe is a wrong and non moral legality. But it is legal. In other words, Israel is acting legally. The only important thing thus, (and I believe that Israel will survive this crisis with Obama) is for America to stick to its veto policies in the Security Council. The rest is just CJ LEGALISTIC NONSENSE THAT ISRAEL CAN AND SHOULD IGNORE.

makes us all laugh!! websters cj look it up "a state an are aset asisde for the people of a race or religion !"

Softly softly....eventually... It's like opening the window on a fresh spring morning

This may well turn out to be a spectacularly one-sided "tussle" for the simple reason that one of the two sides is in danger of being bundled from the ring..... http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/department-justice-asked-regulate-aipac-foreign-agent-israeli-government/ Ooooohhhhhhhhh, darn..... If that request gets up then it's bye-bye AIPAC.... Looks like the ongoing saga of "Bibi and the Bear" won't be the only thing on AIPAC's mind when the big Lobby LoveFest gets underway.

Those who love Israel support J-Street.

I wouldn't characterize Mr. Soros and friends as 'Obama' staffers. J-Street is moving on. Keep on whining, that will help. Tea?

It seems that the U.S is on the way to cause Israel to fall into a desperate mood &corner which might lead to desperate actions, not only lobby talk. I can see it coming to my regret.

From the earliest centuries of Torah teaching and debate, continuing down through the age of the Talmud and the great commentators Jews have practiced vigorous hair-splitting disagreement. This is not treason. AIPAC was in danger of becoming a victim of its own past success. Its blind loyalty to Israel and its lockstep mentality had led it into danger. It was becoming notorious in the US and many were calling for it to be registered as a foreign agency. With the rise of J-Street free speech and balance are returning to the diaspora. Hopefully, free speech and balance will return to Israel soon.

The late Selman Waksman,one of the greatest Jewish Scientists,used to say-:"whoever is not a liberal before his thirties,has no heart...and whoever is not a conservative after his thirties,has no brains..." I hope those little "Jew boys" playing leftwingers grew up and see the light...Problem is that while they grow up,they do a lot of damage to Israel,when the aid and give confort to the worst enemies of the Jewish People

J Street is absolutely out of understanding of Israeli situation. J Street is like minor extreme left in current Israel. Good job J Street!

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in Israel. It's in illegally acquired territory. http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1950/apr/27/jordan-and-israel-government-decision http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/decad169.asp

I generally agree with the more conservative approach of groups like AIPAC and TIP. However, please bear in mind that a lot of people at the top of organizations like TIP are Americans whose only experience in Israel is staying in five-star hotels. I'll take a honest left-wing Israeli veteran rather than a trumped-up, run-of-the-mill DC political hack any day.

How has U.S. support of Israel served U.S. interests? As a holiday destination for American Jewry? As a safe haven for criminals on the run from U.S. justice? On the contrary, U.S. support of Israel only relieves U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars year in and year out. Israel's agenda is not ours. It is high time the U.S. gave Israel a wide birth. I for one would rather the U.S. had a special relationship with Lebanon. At least the cuisine is far superior to Israel's.

Israel wouldn't exist today were it not for US Jewish people. $150 billion of american tax money would not have found its' way to Israel without American Jews pushing for it.

And so, being labelled "anti-Germany" by Nazi Germans who would use "anti-Germany" in an attempt to imply my opposition was unwarranted, that it is somehow a pejorative (all with the intent to deflect legitimate criticism of the Nazi regime), well to them I say "anti-Germany" is a label I bore with pride. So too today, being called "anti-Israel" is a label I carried with pride if it's imposed by those people who attempt to use it to imply my opposition is unwarranted, that it is somehow a pejorative. Everyone knows how you people use the word anti-Israel and anti-Semite these days, to silence and deflect legitimate criticism of the policies and horrors perpetrated by the Zionist regime that governs the State of Israel. We honor the rightous Gentiles for their aid to Jews in our time of need. So too, may rightous Jews today stand up so that in the future we may be remembered and it may be seen that not all Jews were Zionist opressors of Palestinians. "Never again" against us or anyone

J Street represents the kind of Judaism I believe in. I support and respect them.

Israel needs US to support its (Israeli) soft economy (no hard industry) and to be not alone in this stupid part of the world. Both countries have enough reasons for friendship if not for marrige.

US employs Israel to control Mid East, including Saud, Egypt, Iran etc. No Israel - no control - high price for oil, wars, terror etc. So it is in US interests to have a friendly country in this stupid part of the world. If we don't want to support Israel - fine, There will be other to take our place (it happened before to France). In order to get rid of this friendship, we need to be independent on oil.

Nick , I enjoyed reading your bully story , until I relized that u don't mean Israel as the bully , it is amazing how blinded u are , who is actually the bigest bully of all in the middle east , isn't Israel ? Who has most arsenal of woppens aren't they useing them all the time ? Who has the bombs , planes, aren't thEy using them against civilians weekly ? They are intimedtaing everyone including their biggest supporter USA ? I wish u could see the truth and twisted the realty.. Isreal is such big bully that it even intmidates the american govrnment ,, open your eyes and see the truth , because it will always prevail and the bully always loses at the end !!! HARRETZ please post this , I noticed you are not posting a lot of my responses thank you

If Jews ruled on Mars, JStreet would try to annihilate them. Their enemy is Hashem and His Torah. They are their ultimate target for "reform" and "enlightenment." But the movie is tragic for them; they are annihilated and Israel prevails forever. FOREVER. Haha JStreet. Your parties are short lived! You better have a good time now! Tap that keg, fool!

In 1948,when I was growing up in Rio,there were "Progressive/comunists" Jews and Zionist Jews.The comunists were mostly very rich people. There were ugly fists fight,because the comunists were singign their praizes to Stalin's Birobidjan and that every Jews should speak and learn Yidish and Hebrew "verbotten" in 1954,when Old Joe died,his murders and crimes against the Jews were revelead,the idiot comunists eat dung...A lot of misguided "jewish boys" will have to change their menu,beggining in November this year...

Israels actions may be Israels business, USA support of Israel may be in their interest, UNTIL these actions threaten our troops in Iraq and Afganistan then it is our BUSINESS,

Just where is this "Baruch Goldstein Street" of which you speak? I can imagine some nutter settlers out in the territories jokingly naming something like that. But Israel government has never, and would never do that. The only thing uncommon about you is your aversion to truth.

Nick you must live in a looking glass world where everything appears the exact reverse of what happens on earth. I hope one day the scales can fall from your eyes and you can perceive reality. best wishes, paul

"why the PLO was established in 1964...prior to any "occupation" by Israel?" The sovereign boundaries of the state of Israel were declared on 14 May 1948. These legal boundaries have never changed. You are confusing the armistace lines from 1949 which are not the legal boundaries of the state. Hence, Israeli occupation started as soon as Israeli forces controlled any area outside the boundaries of the sovereign state. Please see 'Plan Dalet'

only 10 percent fought for the american revolution if you idiots out there cant see the difference between Israel and the Arabs youve been conned by the anti israel establishment, I hope Netanhayu tells this monkey in the white house to go back to school

Look at the list of Directors of 'J' Street. An awful lot of inactive rabbis; many very elderly and others, active like that in Pasadena, under great pressure from goyem to conform. Others are former State Department and diplomatic corps people. A few are Nobel Prize winners, but in the hard sciences, none in the humanities - a lot of Edward Teller aparichik/technocrate types. This is very telling ans suggests 'J' Street is an 'inside job' to divide the Jewish Community. USA did this same sort of thing in Italy to keep the communists out of power. We're doing it inside Iran. Its sort of a 'Tea Party' for elderly and blind Jewish liberals and second tier retired alta kacha rabbis. It has way more publicity than it warrents, and that makes me wonder who's behind it. Certainly their Board of Directors is anything but distinguished when it comes to Torah scholarship.

They are mockers, self-hating Jews - there were also no doubt Jews supporting Hitler in the 1930's, now we have J street supporting Pharaoh Hussein and Hitlery Cvnton

"including renaming a street in honor of a Palestinian terrorist who butchered over 30 Israelies.." Yet Israel has done the exact same thing with Baruch Goldstein, a well known terrorist and mass murderer. Hell, he was a member of the bloody JDL, a notorious terrorist organization which is just as bad as Hamas! Yet I don`t see you condemning Israel for this action. Hypocritical much?" Also dont forget it wasnt long ago that the now PM Netanyahu was officiating at the Plaque commemoration of the King David Hotel. They are pretty proud of their Haganna terrorist past blowing up that hotel and killing all those people. They even elected one of the bombers as PM of their country.

"including renaming a street in honor of a Palestinian terrorist who butchered over 30 Israelies.." Yet Israel has done the exact same thing with Baruch Goldstein, a well known terrorist and mass murderer. Hell, he was a member of the bloody JDL, a notorious terrorist organization which is just as bad as Hamas! Yet I don`t see you condemning Israel for this action. Hypocritical much?" Also dont forget it wasnt long ago that the now PM Netanyahu was officiating at the Plaque commemoration of the King David Hotel. They are pretty proud of their Haganna terrorist past blowing up that hotel and killing all those people. They even elected one of the bombers as PM of their country.

An entire heading on todays Realclearpolitics.com webpage is devoted to 'Israel-U.S. relations'. Does this government really want to open up a review of something that was taken for granted already? This is exactly what they are doing and the outcome may not be what they are looking for.

The building of settlements in East Jerusalem has not just been condemned by the US government but by the European Quartet. There is not a single country that has accepted Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem. If right-wing Israelis now insist on kicking their best friends in the shins they will become even more isolated. J Street is a voice for moderation. Labeling them as Judenrat only shows the intolerance of their critics - an intolerance which will only lead to Israel losing even more friends. Read Dowd in the NYTimes today.

It is interesting that J-Street's propaganda no longer claims it is a Jewish group but a generally "pro-Israel, pro-peace" group--though it does provide convenient "Jewish cover" for the anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian nationalist, pro-Islamic groups with which it shares financial and political interests.

... Baruch Goldstein Street? You just claimed Israel did the "same exact thing". Baruch Goldstein was perhaps endorsed by some like-minded nutters, but was never to my knowledge, honored by Israel officials.

Jihad Street is an anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish lobby which is using the current crisis to gain a credibility.

Obama and Jstreet both have proven themselves anti-Israel.....certainly not even handed....

It was late in coming but came just in time.A Jewish organization that doesn't just regurgitate the official right-wing Israeli spin but actually thinks for itself and speaks up. May it grow and prosper - we need it ! David

Yes and how about Ariel Sharon, who some consider to be the "butcher of Beirut." Israelis need to come to grips with their own past and acknowledge that they too are responsible for the sorry state of affairs in the Near East. Until they gather the courage to do that, there can be no new beginning, and no honest peace negotiations.

Both AIPAC and J Street are working the Israel/USA relationship. J Street does it by taking as its starting point "what's best for America?", and then tries to work the positive aspects of the relationship from THAT point of view. AIPAC does the reverse i.e. it starts from "what's best for Israel?", and then tries to frame the relationship from THAT point of view. Nothing wrong with either path, of course, except that while that makes the former an AMERICAN organization, the latter is - and lets be blunt here - acting as an agent for a foreign government. Is it registered as such?

"Support of Israel has served the U.S. interests more than supporting anyone else in the world." That is the biggest lie that Foxman have said lately, US people are getting really tired of this burden called Israel. Just see what U.S. General David Petraeus said, bravo Petraus! for stating the obvious!

J Street does only one thing: criticize Israel. It doesn't represent the Jewish community, it isn't "pro-Israel" in any respect, and if anything it's counterproductive to "peace" because its misguided lobbying only prolongs the conflict. I feel sorry for the folks who sign onto their petitions or take part in the organization. They don't fully grasp the damage they do.

Well said. It is difficult to be stuck with ally that has such a large entitlement world view. But, there nothing that says we Americans have to support Jewish extremists in their insanity. I for one vote to pull the plug. No more US tax dollars, until you stop jerking us around. Wake up and smell the roses. No one in their right mind would want to live the way you do. Assume some responsibility for your predicament. The game has been named. It is time to stop it.

"including renaming a street in honor of a Palestinian terrorist who butchered over 30 Israelies.." Yet Israel has done the exact same thing with Baruch Goldstein, a well known terrorist and mass murderer. Hell, he was a member of the bloody JDL, a notorious terrorist organization which is just as bad as Hamas! Yet I don't see you condemning Israel for this action. Hypocritical much?

Both of these organisations are working to influence the government of the US not Israel. Neither organisation can dictate the policies of the Israeli government - that is the prerogative of Israelis (including the 20% Palestinian population of Israel.)

Hans, normally what you are saying would be correct, but in the case of Rob Malley. he chose to join this organization and given his history of anti Israel pronouncements he is not about to join a group that would be pro Israel. Another example is former State Department person Nick Veliotis another individual who has not been a friend of Israel. this is not a coincidence. These people are comfortable with J Street and their philosophy

"It wouldn`t be as annoying if they didn`t present themselves as a "pro-Israel" and "pro-peace" group. They`re neither." No, they are actually the only group that truly wants peace. AIPAC is nothing more than an incredibly racist organization whose goal is the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians from stolen Palestinian land.

"But I think it's a mistaken and counterproductive strategy and flawed analysis of what is in the best interest of the U.S.," Foxman said. "Support of Israel has served the U.S. interests more than supporting anyone else in the world." Yee haa! We've gotta put this guy on prime-time TV! He's a riot!

J street will go the Obama will go down the tub

Israel's leaders have been acting like spoiled children caught with their hands in a cookie jar. They know they are wrong. They know they have no intentions of changing. They want the USA to look the other way and let them comntinue to be spoiled children. And of course, Israel is prepared to pay big money to have the USA ignore its own values so that Israel can go on throwing tantrums. However it is time for Israel to become accountable for its actions. It is also time for the USA to stop wasting capital protecting an immature nation that does not want responsibility. Israel has opended the door revealing its immaturity. The USA has the opportunity to correct a long-standing problem permanently or succumb to the emotions of zealots.

Total scam how can they be unbiased when it was founded by obama staffers.

We note that J-Street has nary a word to say about the vicious rioting, pogroms, and barbaric anti-Jewish, anti-Israel agitation of Palestinians falsely claiming that Israel wishes to destroy Al Asqa while they seek to maim Israeli citizens. Oh, but that doesn't concern the President either. Their board members socialize with professional Israel-boycott and Israel-divestment strategists, their university affiliates regularly disavow "pro-Israel" sentiments and they routinely shill for those who seek to malign Israel, misrepresent Israel, and seek her dismemberment, whether it is Arabs seeking to expel Jews from holy places in Jerusalem or the Goldstones of the world seeking to nullify Jewish defense. This group is no more "Jewish" than are Jews for Jesus.

US strategic interests really begs the question - how and where? Israel is a small blob on the edge of the Arabian desert. It doesn't watch over the Red Sea and Suez, US ally Egypt does that. It doesn't defend the Gulf or the oil, Saudi does that. It doesn't control the eastern Med, NATO and the US fleet does that. It doesn't help in Iraq, Afpak, didn't help in Bosnia, Darfur, in fact can't really help anywhere, it's offended too many nations, esp. Muslim and democratic ones. It doesn't really offer bases the US needs, it's got them all over Saudi, Iraq etc. After Iraq, the less said about its intelligence stories the better. It is not a strategic asset in the UN, rather a liability. It is not a member of the IMF, EU or anything. Fact is Abe, Israel is as much strategic use to the USA as a chocolate teapot. Quit trying to fool the public, ADL and AIPAC are about using Jewish money and votes to try to subvert US foreign policy, that's the only 'strategic interest' at work here.

"Disaffected American Jews, from a non-existent street in Washington, who neither sacrifice, serve or contribute to Israel`s welfare" Why should they sacrifice for or serve Israel? They are Americans. If they want to serve or sacrifice, then they should make aliyah. Americans all contribute to israel whether we like it or not. In my opinion it should be a checkbox on whether we want to contribute anything to Israel on the income tax forms. At least we know where your allegiances lie. They are Americans concerned with America. Your concerns lie with Israel first and America second. Your main concern is that Israel be restored no matter what the cost is and how many American lives it puts at risk.

J-Street is well known for receiving funding from Muslims and anti-Israel groups that want to see the total destruction of the State of Israel. J-Street is not a pro-Israel lobbying group as they claim. They are against the G-d of Israel. They want Jews to go against the words of G-d as stated in the Torah. Do not listen to these people.

Whether you agree with the Americans or not, is irrelevant. America has no real incentive to involve itself in israels problems. Why should the Average American have any interest in this conflict and take the side, whether its right or wrong of a minority (israelis) of the world pop. It is natural and expected that they will continue to drift to the centre. As American Jews assimilate and become more American and less Jewish, the Jewish influence will weaken. (naturally) So Israels position and America's position will gradually shift in different directions. This is the beginning. The problem that israelis and right wing jews need to understand is that the longer they fail to accept this "end game" future reality the worse they are going to make israel position in the world. That is of course if they are expecting the americans to save them from the arabs

Where is Clinton?, where is Obama?, where is Biden? where is Axelrod?, where is Emanual?, when the Palestinians are urging there constitiuants to riot,burn, destroy, all in the name of"The Jews comming" to get Al Aksa. In the same token it was the Arabs who destroyed Jewish institutions, removed manuments from jewish cemetary to pave streets and I could go on and on....

No Yonatan, "Jewish sovereignty over these parts of Jerusalem is a fact," is wholly incorrect. Israel has NO SOVEREIGNTY OUTSIDE ITS 1948 BORDERS!!! It has never claimed sovereignty outside these borders!!! It cannot claim sovereignty in E J'sem BECAUSE IT IS OCCUPIED TERRITORY!!! The only way it could GAIN sovereignty is with the formal consent of the civil power, the PA. It doesn't have that consent so cannot change the status of the territory!!! That goes for ALL the land inside Israel's (illegal) 'Greater Jerusalem' border of 1967 - Gilo, Giv'at HaMatos, Har Homa in OCCUPIED Bethlehem, Ramot Allon, Pisgat Ze'ev, Giv'at Ze'ev in OCCUPIED Ramallah, Ramat Shlomo, Ma'ale Dafna, French Hill in OCCUPIED E J'sem and so on. They are ALL illegal settlements on Palestinian land and Israel's only locus there is as an army of occupation - not the sovereign power. Sheesh!!! There's none so deaf as those that don't WANT to hear, Yonatan, playing at their make-believe games.

"My Bible says in Genesis 12:3, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." This was God telling Abram, (AKA Abraham, and thus his offspring, Isaac & Jacob, [Israel]) how He (God) would treat everyone who he (Abraham) dealt with. Israel has long been a US ally and it would behove us to protect that relationship. You don`t want to be found fighting against God, because your arms are too short to box with God. Israel apologized for the timing of the announcement, calling it an accident... just accept the apology and move on... quit making a mountain out of a mole hill!!!!!" Constance, what makes you different from a Muslim radical? Not much difference. Listen to how you sound. You are the danger to Israel and people like you. Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal. I guess you forgot about Gods commandments too. You arent going to be blessed for killing little kids no matter who is doing th killing

Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel. Yes, legally Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel. Only Jews recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Jerusalem is the holy city for three Abrahamic religions. Your ignorance is appalling. The systematic ethnic cleansing of East Jerusalem is illegal. House demolitions and illegal evictions are occurring everyday. Plans for more illegal settlements, gross violations of international law, are ongoing. There has been no freeze.

The national security of the U.S. and its prestige around the word demand Israel to stop building settlements and reach a genuine peace in the Middle East. It is not in Israel favor to humiliate the U.S. administration that is its strongest allied. The whole world knows that Israel is dismantling the future Palestinians state before it born. Iran and the Muslims fanatic love dismantling the future Palestine.

The national security of the U.S. and its prestige around the word demand Israel to stop building settlements and reach a genuine peace in the Middle East. It is not in Israel favor to humiliate the U.S. administration that is its strongest allied. The whole world knows that Israel is dismantling the future Palestinians state before it born. Iran and the Muslims fanatic love dismantling the future Palestine.

Nowadays, anyone who disagrees with the actions of the most far-right government in the history of Israel, is considered anti-Semitic, even if they happen to be Jewish. The real war is against the kind of narrow-minded religious fundamentalism that we see, not only in Iran, but increasingly in Israel as well. I can assure you there is also a Christian version of it in America, hoping for the apocalypse. In a more perfect world, we could let all these fanatics fight it out amongst themselves, while leaving the saner people alone. But since we cannot do that, we must do everything that we can to save the world by defeating this kind of religious fundamentalism, wherever we find it.

Posts like #15 simply reflect a naive understanding of the issues. These obama lap dogs are quick to condem Israel's right wing just as they do here in america whenever someone disagrees with Obama. But the reality is that the arabs refuse to compromise or do anything for peace. We signed the Olso Accords and we got the intafada. Olmert offered abbas 99% of the west bank including east jerusalem for his capital and it was turned it. Instead they incitred the local populations to riot. they routinley praise terrorists, run racist anti semitic tv, lie in the press and teach their children to kill Jews. #15, have you ever read a Palestinian text book; they say Jews are decendants of monkeys and pigs. The only thing that Obamas stupid reaction to the housing annoucement was to incite violence in Israel. Yesterday we had a day of rage brought to you by hamas with people rioting and getting shot. Obama now has Jewish blood on his hands. And you think you are a supporter of Israel, hardly

Moshe's accusation: "Obviously you are a settler" shows that he has no knowledge of our country and can't find Mevaserret Zion on a map of Israel. His comments that follow are those of an imposter and not worthy of rebuttal.

J Street needs to stop sucking up to the Obama administration and man-up for their people.

You did write that you live in Canada, right?

It is wrong to put the words pro-Israel in front of J Street. In fact they should be called "Judenrat Steet" as they are the new kapos.

with a quote from Mr. Foxman? Answer: Ms Mozgovaya is about the most biased reporter I read in Haaretz. She just has a lot of trouble remaining non-editorial when she covers J Street.

You could have imagined an SS guy posting on Haaretz. I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

Your bible, the Torah and any other bibles are man made stories that were told from generation to generation, hundreds of years after the supposed events took place and told differently each time to suit whom ever was telling these stories and were written the same way. There is NO proof of anything that is in the bible regarding what G-d told whomever. Again these were man made stories that were told in order to make people afraid to question anything that did'nt seem right. A way to put fear into people in order to ensure that they will follow their religion and religious leaders of those times, blindly. The bible is no more than a book of stories designed to brainwash people in believing that they should follow what they are told because G-d wants it that way and if they don't they will end up in Hell.

Charles your logic is flawed. One can't condemn an whole organization because of one's opinion of a single member, or even a few. Example: I don't condemn Israel, or America because of all the fools that reside in those countries.

I think Kadima and Livni would have been the better choice for Israel and the region. I hope you are not planning to establish an illegal settlement in DC. It won't fly. Perhaps you should consider relocating. I understand there is lots of available land in the West Bank. Actual ownership doesn't matter. By right of occupation the Israeli state will simply issue permits to you. This will be done without the knowledge of the PM, by a low ranking municipal bureaucrat. Peace negotiations will continue to be stalled. You and your family may be able to continue to live on the stolen land for as long as Israel can continue to fool the rest of the international community.

Do not tell Israelis what needs to be done - get your fat asses there if you want to earn the right to speak! Living in galut - you have no moral rights to speak about Israel! And your money do not give you that right. You can not buy moral right with the money: all you could do is to buy your way out of moving to Israel. Which is what you all do.

Up until about a month ago I was neutral about J street. But when I found out that Rob Malley is a member I am convinced that in spite of their pronouncements they are anti Israel. Rob Malley former under secretary of state under Bill clinton has written extremely anti Israel opeds in the NY Times and has consistently been anti Israel. His anti Israel tirades were most pronounced when Ehud Barak was attempting to make an agreement with Arafat and then when Kadima was the majority party in Israel. He is not a friend of Israel and so J street cannot be pro Israel with a person like Rob Malley as a member.

Foxman said. "Support of Israel has served the U.S. interests more than supporting anyone else in the world." There is of course scarcely a jot of evidence to support good ol' Abe, but that's never stopped him in the past. Not only has blind support for Israel dmaged and is damaging US links with any number of countries, it also damages Israel - a country which had one friend in the world, the US, and is rapidly losing even that one.

T for traitors. Self-hating Jews with a pro- Arab anti Israel policy. Hopelessly faithless. Real Jews should refuse to reconize them as Jews. Build Israel! Two-States will never happen because of terror and incitement only US (Obama) and company are to hopeless to know it. They don't have another idea.

So, let me understand this. American Jews who do not see things your way, are "disaffected Jews!" According to you people are good if they fit your model, if they agree with you but they are bad if they don't. Where have I heard that before ...?

ancestors in Jerusalem... http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y#Jews-are-a-race "And your point is? " It's a multibillion dollar business whose investors are willingly investing in ILLEGAL activities. They will not want to lose out. Now I guess you'll try and tell me they aren't lobbying to have these ILLEGAL activities continue? "Illegal? Is legality defined by post-1945 UN rulings? " Yes, they apply equally to all. Israel obliged itself to comply by becoming a UN Member state. "Things that happened before are immaterial? Displacement of Jews 2000 years ago was deemed by some as fait accompli. So will our return" You, Go/-d, me and every Jewish person on the planet were sold out by the Jewish People's Council May 14th 1948 http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y#ignorance http://wp.me/pDB7k-pE

and what communities would that be?

J-Street is the Saudi-PLO lobby. Who do they think their fooling. I mean look at the kinds of comments from those who support them.

It's interesting how JStreet's loudest condemnations are always directed towards Israel. I didn't hear a peep or concern from this faux pro-Israel group regarding the Palestinians' ongoing honoring of murderous suicide bombers - including renaming a street in honor of a Palestinian terrorist who butchered over 30 Israelies, continuous indoctrination of children to hate Israel, and lack of free speech. As has sadly been the case for years, Jews continue to be Israel's and other Jews' worst enemy. Oh yeah, can the brilliant anti-Israel liberal elites at JStreet explain why a Palestinian state was never establish between 1948 and 1967 when the west bank and gaza were in Arab hands? Or why the PLO was established in 1964...prior to any "occupation" by Israel? What were they "libeating"??? Tel Aviv? they're pathetic

At the recent J-Street Conference in Washington, they claimed they were "mainstream", just like Kadima. But once again, the facts prove otherwise. When Israel responded to rockets coming from Gaza, there was virtual wall-to-wall support in Israel for the operation, including from the left. But not from J-Street. Here too, Kadima (and Livni) are committed to building in every part of Jerusalem. J-Street needs to find a new trope. This one doesn't play.

@Yonatan said: "Jewish sovereignty over these parts of Jerusalem is a fact, and even those Jewish Israeli politicians who are for dividing Jerusalem wouldn`t dream of transferring these neighborhoods" Then they shouldn't have built neighborhoods on land they don't own!! Settlers are WRONG. Settling is STEALING. And nothing you say, no argument you can muster up, will ever right that wrong. Its not their land, this was their plan all along, to slowly crawl into these lands and stall and stall until they get the orders to evict and then they start screaming and crying and claiming its their land because they've been there for so long!

Jstreet="Yevsektsiya" Google: Yevsektsiya was the Jewish section of the Soviet Communist party. Yevsektsiya was established to popularize Marxism and encourage loyalty to the Soviet regime among Russian Jews.

To worry about what may or may not have happened 2000 yrs ago is insane. None of us were there. None of us can be held responsible for what may or may not have happened. Each of us and all of us collectively are responsible for what happens today, in our time. Stop the insanity.

Jerusalem, East, West, North, and South, is JERUSALEM, Also known as the Capital of Israel. Why shall construction stop? If Palestinians which for a capital city, why not Ramallah, or Hebron, where the PA resides? Shall we split Washington D.C. for a future native american state?

Disaffected American Jews, from a non-existent street in Washington, who neither sacrifice, serve or contribute to Israel's welfare

Its time some reasonable people started negotiating REAL peace. Everyone knows right wingers are not peace makers, and they never will be. And let's just be honest here, Right wing Israelis WANT the wars to continue, so they can grab as much land as they possibly can, before any final border plans are layed out. And even then, they won't be happy. They're goal is form the Nile to the Euphrates. And I can tell them right now, its never going to happen.

Let it be known that on this day Americans of all persuasions, true friends of Israel and the region, stepped up to support our president Barak Obama in his quest to achieve a just and lasting peace among all peoples in the Near East. Israelis and Palestinians can achieve that. We Americans are ready to help, but we will no longer tolerate Israeli and Palestinian foot dragging and games to support governments in the area which do not work in the best interest of their people, or according to international law. If those governments do not heed our advice, we will urge our government to stop subsidizing. Pay attention, it's that simple. Now, it is your turn to choose.

SOunds like you're suggesting the US administration should ignore JStreet because it is not from Israel. By the same token, should we ignore the efforts of AIPAC as well?

And your point is? It takes money to build and reclaim ancestral land. Illegal? Is legality defined by post-1945 UN rulings? Things that happened before are immaterial? Displacement of Jews 2000 years ago was deemed by some as fait accompli. So will our return.

The sad thing is the folks leading this org actually believe in what they're doing. Let's hope they open their eyes and see the damage they cause to their own communities. The other sad thing is some politicians actually think that the signatures these folks gather from folks whose only connection to Israel is of detached dislike actually represent the Israeli community. It wouldn't be as annoying if they didn't present themselves as a "pro-Israel" and "pro-peace" group. They're neither.

It is incredibly important, that the American people will hear an alternative Jewish voice, it will make J-Street sound for mainstream Americans like the reasonable pro-Israel voice, while AIPAC/ADL will be pushed into the far right political corner, where they actually fit in rather well. It is also fair to assume, that members of the House and Senate will be much less fearful to speak their mind, when they have a Jewish pro-Israel organisation backing them up. Make no mistake, this is a slow process, but it may actually help on the long term not only to keep Israel as a mainly Jewish state, but also guarantee the future safety and wellbeing of the Jewish community in the U.S. Because if AIPAC and ADL would have been allowed for much longer to act the way they did over the past 2 decades, this could have provoked a terrible backlash against American Jews one day, one really doesn't have to be a historian to recognize that danger...

Three cheers for J Street. At least there is more than one choice for members of the American Jewish community.

Take diplomacy, they use a ridiculously technical vocabulary to make excuse for 'statements' that were not meant as they were said. And behind that, there is facts: Jstreet is more anti-Israel than anything. They want to replace the AIPAC with the same view as Obama's (always a friend, never a supporter) but being Jews and with the "pro-Israel" priceless tag. As if they registered this title. Dude, Jerusalem is not settlements, it's Israel. It is subject to discussions, as Tel Aviv is. But right now, it is Israeli territory and if you want to see unveiled women, shia does not apply there.

My Bible says in Genesis 12:3, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." This was God telling Abram, (AKA Abraham, and thus his offspring, Isaac & Jacob, [Israel]) how He (God) would treat everyone who he (Abraham) dealt with. Israel has long been a US ally and it would behove us to protect that relationship. You don't want to be found fighting against God, because your arms are too short to box with God. Israel apologized for the timing of the announcement, calling it an accident... just accept the apology and move on... quit making a mountain out of a mole hill!!!!!

But these take the cake! Conspiracy theories about Obama...Jihad Street...self-hating jews...You people are as bad as the anti-semitic propagandists who invented the myth of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion". How hard is it to understand that opposing a particular government's policies is not the same as opposing a state's right to exist? How hard is it to understand that criticizing the current Israeli Administration doesn't make you "anti-Israel" (as if you're automatically against the concept of Israel as a whole?)? How hard is it to understand that Zionism as the stance that there should be a state for the Jews doesn't grant Israel the authority to occupy and oppress another nation, equally deserving of it's own state? Critism and Zionism can coexist. Dissent is necessary to any political ideology, otherwise we would all only believe one thing. When are you going to lay down the inflammatory rhetoric and try and understand these not-to-difficult ideas?

"The camel in the Arabian tale begged and received permission to insert his nose into the desert tent of an Arab to escape cruel weather outside. A little later the Arab awoke to find that the camel had not only put his nose in the tent, he was outside in the cold and the camel had the tent to himself." It was only meant to be a 'national home' not a 'state'. Look at the walls, fences & naval blockades now !

I live in the US have observed the mid-east issue for my entire life. What I see is constant tit-for-tat in the name of a god, a body-count that makes me question humanity and escalation upon escalation with no end in sight. I used to hopeful that peace would someday come to your region but now I doubt it will ever happen. Every year, my gov't sends billions of my hard-earned money to arm a conflict broken peace agreement full of broken promises. It breaks my heart and my bank that there is no return for our investment in peace. Now I am becoming just annoyed and do not want any involvement. Soon the US will be bankrupt and there will be no money to send overseas. Then what? My question is simple; why should I care enough to continue to support peace in the mid-east? What is going to be my return on investment? Why should I care about the outcome?

I could care less about J Street, but what ridiculous lop-sided journalism...almost everytime you mention "J Street" you make sure to add "dovish", "left-leaning", "leftist". Aren't we being a little too persuasive? And gee, when you get to inflammatory Foxman and the hardcore Anti-Defamation League do you add "hawkish, right-wing, right-leaning" or anything?...interesting...no you don't, no adjectives at all. Keep think you're writing for morons and babies.

Yeah? Well, when the US is finally fed up with propping up your unappreciative asses in Israel, you too will realize you shouldn't repeatedly bite the hand that feeds ya and expect us to like ya. I'm amazed we've been paying the carte blanche bill all this time and at the same time taking your shit. Israel needs a good spanking!

They should call themselves the "O" group. Obama founded J Street just a few short months before the Democratic primaries in order to create a false Jewish consensus for his policies in the Middle East, and continued to use them to help with his election. Today he's using them to pretend like he has some form of Jewish consensus of "Pro Israel" Jews that are actually against Israel. Do us all a favor Jstreet and just admit it already.

Moshe you are a true Mensch, and so right. I've been impressed with your posts. Those who favor peace and justice, are the sane voices. They will speak speak truth to authority. True friends of Israel recognize that speaking truth to authority is one lesson to be learned from the Jewish historical experience. For all of the extremists out there, I have one question. How can the descendants of those who were persecuted for centuries support the creation and maintenance of the largest walled ghetto, which is the West Bank Palestinian Authority? If Netanyahu lacks the courage to conduct honest negotiation to end the insanity, then it is time for new leaders to step forward.

ken, Do you even have an idea what being a jew is that you consider your support for J street which is basically a mock org. like Acorn..... a worthy comment?! you are a disgrace just like all the other "liberal" (until it gets to my healthcare) leftist wacko hollywod "jews" who never even stepped in to a synagogue!

J Street gives American Jews in favor of peace an official voice that is listened to. That's never happened before in USA, and will not happen again in Israel (the voters will not vote peace there). Of all the forces of peace against Israel's stance, J-Street is the most worrying for Bibi

because we all know they are mere expressions of loyalty oath to the U.S. they*ve sworn. Period.

How is an American group advocating American interests traitorous? I would have thought the ones supporting other countries against their own would better fit that descriptor.

Folks, As I have written before, the current action of the Israeli government of extending settlements in East Jerusalem is turning long time allies against Israel. Wake up to the fact that you are losing support, where you need it most. Without the US, there is no chance for Israel to live in peace and that is not fair to your citizens, both Israeli and non-Israeli.

let it be anti israel, so what, everyone should be against this racist regime, or do u afarid from truth .if u speak against israel u are antisemite very funny and rediculous. u should know ur self u r a racist and a killer thats u face for the God sake

It is heartening to see good people committed to Israel demanding the best from the country. There is no question about the injustices of the settlements and the cynicism involved in courting the Jewish equivalent of the Christian Right Wing.

It is perplexing how some leftist liberals would even help the enemy of Israel push them into the sea. They shall be judged by GOD for the misery they cause to their own brethren. If you study history you will find that it is the Arabs that have used the Palestinians as an excuse to eliminate the Jews. May the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob judge this world soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09pmTh64vD8&feature=fvw

J street is the best thing that happened to Jew haters since Judenrat.

Please define for the rest of us who the heck J Street is.... Sounds like a rapper.

nothing of value. no insight, no historical awareness, no strategy no survival value. pick another friend with friends like you we do not need enemies.

Posted: "..When did pro-peace political positions become only left wing?" History shows that the left wing is always pro-peace and the right wing is always pro-war and are incapable of peace. Posted: "..Does that mean all right wing (or republicans in USA or Likud in israel) are incapable of peace?" History proves that to be true.

whiny little babies? Or so it seems. Someone disagrees with you they are anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli. Receive weapons basically free from the U.S., but then whine when the U.S. makes demands (you know, for peace). Keep repeating the mantra "we have no one to talk peace with." Yeah, neither do the Palestinians. Ultimate victims never doing anything wrong. A neutral report states that the IDF committed crimes - must be anti-Semitic. Then the IDF does their own research - nothing. Now that's unbiased. Hell, even when the IDF does find something, it's always "one time only" - yeah right. Obama treats us like another nations - he's anti-Semitic! Babies! And for you double-digit IQ'd Jews (if that statment bothers you that means I AM talking about you), don't read this as a pro-Arab, pro-Palestinian rant, I'm tired of the stupidity from both sides. Both sides can't seem to do anything but whine and come up with excuses why there isn't peace.

J STREET IS AN ANTI ISRAEL LOBBY!!!!!!!!!!

J Steet critics have no resonable argments on their side. FACTS: - The status quo in Israel is unsustainable; The Arab pouplation will outnumber the Jewish poulation in Israel long term. This will officially make Israel an apartheid state, harming Israel's already tarnished image internationally and make US support more domestically and internationally indefensible - The political/economic influence of the US will likely declinel; emerging powers such as China may not see their national interests so closely aligned with Israel (who has the oil?) - The fastest growing demographic group of Israeli Jews are the Orthodox (who don't serve in the military and drain national resources). The israeli economy will suffer as it tries to deal with this trend while maintaining its policy of mandatory military service. The Netanyahu Admin. is the real enemy of Israel. Real friends tell friends if they are on an unsustainable path. J Street is doing exactly this. Prove me wrong.

Oh yeah, it's "traitorous" to not support Israel. What about Israel's espionage in the United States, which has been well-documented? As it is, most people in the know consider Israel, not China, or Iran, or North Korea, to be the most dangerous country (in spying terms). I imagine Israel has an easy time finding people to spy for them when there's people like you around. As it is, many members of the military have already said that a lot of people outside the U.S. think we're Israel's lapdog. I guess that's ok with you, huh? So much for the U.S. being the greatest country in the world, we're just Israel's sidekick.

Nothing more than Obama campaign

IDF versus settler extremists. End the illegal settlement construction. The once Ottoman territory must be shared.

Finally, a voice crying out in the desert. J-Street takes the right approach regarding Israel. Push the two-state solution, not simply supporting Israel, right-or-wrong, with my tax money. It's time to speak truth to power. A concerned U.S. citizen

Posted: "We Americans who live here are also pro-Israel, pro-peace Americans. But we live here with the threat of Arab /Muslims going to kill us..." The country you come from and Israel are responsible for creating the threats that you speak of. The Arab/Muslims did not wake up one day and decide that they want to kill Americans and Israelis, this came about as a result of the criminal actions that the USA and Israel have taken in the past 60 years. Israel's occupation, land thefts, torture of Palestinians and USA's pro-Israeli foreign policies are to blame for these threats and the so called "terorrist" groups that popped up in the last few years. Blame yourself for supporting the USA and Israel's criminal actions, not those who oppose these actions. Please do all Israelis a favor, MOVE BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM. We do not need or want you here in Israel. You are no more than a cancer that caused the deaths of so many innocent lives.

What we can deduce from recent developments: 1. Israel is stronger than USA 2. USA needs Israel, not the other way around 3. Israel can break ties with USA easily, but coward USA administration can not!

Barack Hussein Obama II , Joseph Robinette "Joe" Biden, Jr. , George John Mitchell , and Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton - decide to harm Israel : 1. They Don't let Israel attack Iranian nuclear weapons plants 2. They and others didn't stop Iran to get it... 3. They just giving Iran more time for more bombs 4. Iran train, equip, and financier terrorists in Lebanon , Syria , GAZA - Hamas and others include in PLO , Yemen , Saudi Arabia , Egypt , IRAQ... , Afghanistan , South America ...! , north America ...! - And those and other MF - just more soft to them... - Why ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtP9KU7FuaY&feature=fvw 5. After Mitchell and Biden visit they inflame the ARABS in Israel - as in every "peace process" - include OSLO - and you can see today the Arabs riots... 6. Arabs should go back to Arabia, Arab from Arabia , Jew / Jude from Judea. The people of Israel live in the land of Israel for more than the last 3000 years... If other subjugators / empires took control on the l

Barack Hussein Obama II , Joseph Robinette "Joe" Biden, Jr. , George John Mitchell , and Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton - decide to harm Israel : 1. They Don't let Israel attack Iranian nuclear weapons plants 2. They and others didn't stop Iran to get it... 3. They just giving Iran more time for more bombs 4. Iran train, equip, and financier terrorists in Lebanon , Syria , GAZA - Hamas and others include in PLO , Yemen , Saudi Arabia , Egypt , IRAQ... , Afghanistan , South America ...! , north America ...! - And those and other MF - just more soft to them... - Why ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtP9KU7FuaY&feature=fvw 5. After Mitchell and Biden visit they inflame the ARABS in Israel - as in every "peace process" - include OSLO - and you can see today the Arabs riots... 6. Arabs should go back to Arabia, Arab from Arabia , Jew / Jude from Judea. The people of Israel live in the land of Israel for more than the last 3000 years... If other subjugators / empires took control on the l

At last! Rational Jewish voices being heard. I knew Foxman couldn't represent the majority of Jewish people. He clearly owns stock in the Israeli Military/Industrial/Technical complex and wants to maintain the painful status quo.

Settler trash must be controlled. All illegal settlements must be abandoned. All construction in East Jerusalem must stop. Or Israel is nearing it's last days.

We Americans who live here are also pro-Israel, pro-peace Americans. But we live here with the threat of Arab /Muslims going to kill us. Let J Street people move to Israel and lets see what they say after a few months.

...When AIPAC became involved and almost was indicted for spying on the USA, attitudes changed towards that advocacy group. That left a void of credibility. Also, AIPAC has pushed too long that the US policy for israel is to "let it defend itself the way it wants to"...crazy policy.. another void.. Two voids do make a right..and Jstreet was born.

RE: "joining our many enemies in their attack on a democratically elected Israeli government." Obviously you are a settler. Isreal is far from being a democracy. Democracy means freedom for all, equal rights for all and respect for all. Israel is an occupying country, steals lands from the Palestinians, tortures Palestinians and does not treat its own citizens equally. These are not the actions of a democracy. Those who support the criminal actions of Israel's government are the true traitors of Israel.

across the defunct Green Line means that it would like the 300,000 Jewish residents of these neighborhoods - half the Jewish inhabitants of the entire city - to pack up and leave their homes. These neighborhoods weren't built in a day, but have existed for tens of years. J Street ignores the fact that Ramat Shlomo has existed since 1995 and the only new thing abot it is the plan to build an additional 1600 housing units. Jewish sovereignty over these parts of Jerusalem is a fact, and even those Jewish Israeli politicians who are for dividing Jerusalem wouldn't dream of transferring these neighborhoods (which include Ramat Shlomo) to Palestinian rule. This includes Labor, Kadima and Meretz. Therefore, J Street's stance must be considered anti-Zionist and anti-Israeli, and not merely anti Netanyahu or anti right-wing, for it stands in opposition to every single Zionist party in Israel, left to right.

..it's pro-peace. When did pro-peace political positions become only left wing? Does that mean all right wing (or republicans in USA or Likud in israel) are incapable of peace?

Posted: "...To protest against the Prime Minister is the prerogative of the opposition in Israel itself." Those who oppose Netanyahu and his criminal actions against the Palestinians are more pro-Israel than anyone. They oppose his leadership because it will lead to worse and worse consequences later on. You do not support a leader just because he is the leader of your country. According to your statement, Germans were right in supporting Hitler, because he was the leader of Germany, regadless of the crimes he committed against humanity. If you believe what you say, then don't blame the Palestinians for supporting their leadership, because as you say if they did not, they would be anti-Palestinian.

Obama climbed a high tree, Bibi started moving in the right tree- Obama lowering expectations.. But the definition and implementation of the freeze was lopsided and close to irrelevant in terms of the future. But then Bibi really spoils everything and can't even protect the little credit his fumbling ways left him. J-Street is right...for the good of israel (and for the good of making the US a respected mediator..Obama should be firm. (Unlike what Joe Lieberman said..this is NOT a family quarrel..but a quarrel between a mediator and one of the sides to try to create an atmosphere of trust.

Or actually as anti-Israel as him.

J-Street "campaign" sounds remarkably like those fake Jewish organizations the old USSR formed to speak in support of the Kremlins anti-Israel policies. That is because "J-Street" was formed by the Democtatic National Committee right before the 2008 elections so they wouldn't have to deal with the actual US Jewish Committee. When Obama sounds out the "Jewish Community" on his moves, he talks to his party's puppet "J-Street", representing less than 1% of the Jews in the US. How the Rev. Wright's preachings taught him to operate.

of dollars worth of construction contracts in illegal Israeli civilian infrastructure, illegal land sales, home sales, surely must mount up. 50% of the Palestinian territories illegally acquired by war. That's 1/3rd of what Israel illegally claims as it's own. That's quite a bucket load of money. Over 62 years, quite some trillions at a guess. All hanging on the precious US veto vote in the UNSC.... No wonder there's some squirming.

American Jews who have been quietly supporting Israel for many years are getting disgusted with the ever-sharpening rhetoric coming from Likkud and Shas. We are not asking Israel to surrender we are suggesting that if you want the US's help (do you?) then please simply don't spit in our faces on this and other topics. Please keep the fundamentalist rhetoric slightly tamped down and there's a chance for peace. Every time someone shouts lies "Obama the Muslim wants Israel's destruction" or uses Biblical reasoning to shut down the peace process, you lose another American/Diaspora Jew's support and gain their disgust. Please be reasonable. Israel needs peace to survive, as much as your radicals deny this. Please stop the Obama/Hussein rhetoric too!

I think they are J-walking on Jstreet (wait a minute, I think I know now what the "J" stands for: Jihad-Street! Now, it makes sense).

Israel is situated in a tough neighborhood. It only takes 2 hours for the Syrians to move their entire fighting force from central Syria to the Israeli front. Hezbollah is an Iranian/Syrian proxy army right on the border. The US is training Fatah forces 10 minutes from Jerusalem, and we know that one day these forces are going to be used to kill Jews. What J Street is proposing, at this point in time, where real risks to Israel?s survival are still very evident, is anything but support for the Jewish people. As such, I propose that J Street drop the J from their name. As hard as it is on the ears what J Street is proposing borders on turning Israel into a society where religious identity should be neutralized for Jews, but not for Arabs. There are sectors in Israel and the US that are slipping closer to communism. In Israel however, only the Jews are looked at as being accountable. The rest can do what they please.

Will Abe Foxman please shut up? (I'd like to add Marvin Hier and Alan Dershowitz to that list, too.) We don't need any more self-promoting, self-righteous, self-appointed spokesmen for the Jews in America. When anyone so much as says "boo" to a Jew in America, this trio is on the TV shows commenting as so-called experts. Their state of permanent indignation and I'm-soooo-shocked outrage convinces no one and only leaves the Jews looking like whiners and special-pleaders.

Jews never learn! J-street are the same as - unfortunately - the German Jews were first German the Jew, the Hungarian were Hungarian first, then Jews, and so on. Hitler then decided differently! these people are "USA" first, but they are wrong as the USA have always only used the Jews and Israel for their purposes. the so-called friendship was not one at all many times and for many Years (like now). Now Obama and his anty-Israel Jews have sold out Israel. They want to be re-elected and this is the only thing that matters in the USA. Internally they are not successfull (quite the contrary) so they assume that abroad something is be earned cheaply and where if not easier then against Israel? Beware of the beginning and do not trust these people!

And since billions of dollars in aid flow into Israel from the US, the US government is well-served by hearing from a lobbying organization that has a different point of view from the one promoted by AIPAC.

The world should recognize Palestine and then let the two nations sort it out on the same terms. Let the Gaza Strip maintain their own resources without blockades from Israel and they will gain support from the Arab nations, while Israel keeps the U.S. in their back pocket. Condemning does not work but recognition would allow for a more peaceful arrangement.

On the one hand - asking that Israel abide by the Laws it said it would, by A) it's notification to the world of it's declaration B) Becoming a UN Member state On the other hand - Accusing fellow Jews of being anti-semitic for asking the above. Demanding that an illegal capital in illegally acquired territories, illegally annexed, with illegally built Israeli civilian infrastructure and illegally built Israeli civilian dwellings being illegally sold to illegal settler, be recognized as the Jewish state. The first party - wish to see an Israel in accordance with the Law be recognized as the Jewish state The second party - dis-respectful of law, dis-respectful of their fellow Jews, wish to see an Israel replete in it's illegal activities recognized as the Jewish State. Anyone in their right mind.....

...all they want, but I defy anyone to make a rational case that spirited debate does not take place in both countries. Democracy--long may it live!

joining our many enemies in their attack on a democratically elected Israeli government.

J-Street has the same policy platform as the damned Alawite clan in Syria - the dismembering of Israel, with the attendant result that Syrians transferred from the country's agricultural disaster zones will be drinking water from Lake Kinneret; the Israeli land occupied by Jordan after 1948, then regained by defeating Jordan's aggression in 1967, will be parceled out to any Arab purporting to be on British-Mandate soil between 1947-48; and that a straitjacket restrain Israel from so much as interrogating a Hamas rocket-launcher. What can you call this neurosis? Kapo-Jew white guilt? J-Street's "leadership" has reached a level of self-hate that will earn it a place in the hall of shame, next to Bobby Fischer, Karl Marx, Fritz Haber, Mordechai Vanunu, and Obama's house Jews Axelrod & Emmanuel.

It's obvious that you have never studied political science. There is a difference between opposing a regime and opposing a government. you have the critical thinking skills of a 6 year old

Obama really needs to get Israeli hands out of American pockets and Israeli lobbyists out of the American decision making process. That?s the biggest threat to stupid America. Stop worrying about Israel and get on your job.

How can any intelligent person say to disagree with the Prime Minister is to be against Israel? Is that really the message Israelis want to send to the world. I've lived in Israel. I'm a U.S. citizen. It is demeaning to both countries to say that the U.S. government and Israeli organizations must agree with everything Israel does or else it is anti-Israel. This is the thinking of the Iranian government. When a child is naughty, do you tell him you love him or do you punish him so that he will grow to be a better person?

and now is now. This was when they needed Oren to come to their convention, but now is the real J Street: a collection of people who arrogantly empowered themselves to tell Israelis what is good for them and to do it through the US administration instead of in Hebrew and in the Israeli press and other means. P.S. How many of J Street people have ever step a foot in Israel? How many of them can communicate in the language of the Jewish people, Hebrew? How many of them really care whether Israel is or isn't wiped off the face of earth as long as they can play their games to the last Jew in Israel?

"Support of Israel has served the U.S. interests more than supporting anyone else in the world." What does this MEAN? And number 1: You mean they will disappear in the ISRAELI history books because they do not fit nicely into the way you would like to see the world. They wil not ACTUALLY disappear and I hope you are not so delusional that you think they will.

There's absolutely nothing illegal about Jewish residence in the West Bank. Read the article at http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/the-illegal-settlements-myth-15295 for the complete facts. Jewish residence in the West Bank is legal, but many media outlets and government claim, with no basis, that Israel has incurred an obligation to prevent Jews from residing in the West Bank. David Phillips' expert analysis at the URL above in fact anticipates and debunks the anti-"settlement" arguments in the BBC's own international-law spin-doctoring, which can be found at URL http://www.bbcgovernorsarchive.co.uk/docs/reviews/lubell_law_report.pdf. Please forward the Commentary article on to your friends and family!

There is nothing dovish pro Israel about this bad news group of pro Arab anti israel and antisemitic ultra leftist elitists. Most Israelis would agree that this group of lunatics is violently anti Israel. Let's call a spade a spade and let's call J Street for what it is - violently anti-Israel.

I guess you don?t believe in free speech. Not a surprise. I agree and disagree with my Canadian government but that doesn?t make me anti-Canadian. I don?t expect much from people like yourself....I guess education was not important to your livelihood

Israeli politics has always been built on distracting teh wrld from the real issue(s) by facbricating a meaningless issue that they end up conceding to, demonstrating their positive approach. However, behind every move, there is a dark, evil and anti peace plan. What is it this time? War on Iran? Atack on Lebanon again? Attack on Palestine again? And the US will negotiate a peace onc more destruction, death, and hate has been generated. Why bother, sheer numbers of muslims will take over the self-proclaimed zionist state. Patience is the only ally!

The conflict between the Arab world and Israel reminds me of a bully at my school. Everyone, including teachers, were afraid of the this kid. Whenever he made a big fuss he got what he wanted. I was one of the few that stood for my rights, and caught hell from the other kids. "Don't make him mad!", the kids would say. Even the teachers would tell me to just leave him be. But I got really tired of being picked on and walking on eggshells in front of the kid. So one day I decided that enough was enough. I also had the right to exist. So, I beat the hell outta the kid. After that he respected me, and we walked in peace as friends. So....once Israel stops appeasing the Muslim world and stands their ground there will be peace. After all, bullies only respect FORCE.

stop the ad hominem slanderous attacks against obama and j street. we want peace and we want it now. no more illegal construction. no more human rights violations. freedom for all-no matter if you are black white or green. no matter if you are jewish christian muslim or taoist. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California to every hill and molehill of jerusalem and beyond. And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last

"To protest against the Prime Minister is the prerogative of the opposition in Israel itself. Not of a foreign entity like JStreet." Not sure I agree with that statement. Does that mean we aren't allowed to protest against the Iranian regime because we aren't Iranian?

People like you are the reason why there is so much hate. Your pride and others like yourself, arab or jew, will only lead to Isreal's and Palestines destruction. Its sad really and in your case pathetic

J street will not disappear into history. Israel will disappear, {AGAIN}, if you right wing nut Israelis don't get a clue What if this is your LAST CHANCE? Quit playing games and grow up. Americans and the world grows weary of your warmongering.

Check the money trail.

No two ways about it. If it were pro-Israel, then it would support what the Prime Minister did. To protest against the Prime Minister is the prerogative of the opposition in Israel itself. Not of a foreign entity like JStreet.

J Street never misses an opportunity to attack Israel. They will disappear into history like all Israel haters.