'U.K. police in Israel to probe passports used in Dubai hit'
Australia 'not satisfied' with Israeli response; Dubai police: We have 100% DNA proof of one assassin.
By News Agencies and Haaretz Service Tags: Hamas Israel newsInvestigators from Britain's Serious Organized Crimes Agency have arrived in Israel to interview dual nationals whose names were used on forged passports by the assassins of a Hamas commander in Dubai last month, the Independent reported on Saturday.
The British agency said Friday that arrangements were already being made to speak to the six British-Israeli dual nationals whose names were among those used by the alleged hit squad.
Hamas military commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was killed last month in his hotel room in what Dubai police have said they are near certain was a hit by Israel's Mossad spy agency. Police said the killers traveled to the Gulf Arab emirate using forged European and Australian passports.
Australia on Saturday said it is not satisfied with its Israeli envoy's explanation about the fraudulent use of Australian passports in the assassination of a Hamas commander in Dubai last month, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said, according to the Sydney Morning Herald.
Rudd said his government had to "proceed very carefully" in the investigation because of its complex security nature.
Israel's ambassador to Australia, Yuval Rotem, was summoned on Thursday for an urgent meeting with Foreign Minister Stephen Smith.
"When it comes to Australian passport fraud or the use and abuse of Australian passports, this government has an absolutely hard line on defending the integrity of our passport system because millions of the traveling public depend on that each year," Rudd told reporters in Adelaide on Saturday.
"That is why the foreign minister has called in the Israeli ambassador and asked for an explanation. "Thus far we are not satisfied with that explanation," Rudd said.
Meanwhile, Dubai police said on Friday they have DNA proof of the identity of at least one of the killers of senior Hamas strongman Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in the emirate country last month.
"We have DNA evidence ... from the crime scene. The DNA of the criminals is there," Dubai Police Chief Dahi Khalfan Tamim said on the Arab satellite television Al-Arabiya.
He said police had "categorical DNA proof on one of the assassins" and fingerprint evidence from several other suspects, providing "100 percent" proof of their identities.
Dubai said it was seeking at least 26 people it suspectd of involvement in the assassination in January.
Last week Interpol added 11 suspected assassins to their most wanted list, all of whom were apparently using forged passports.
The individuals who were charged by Dubai police as responsible for the killing of Mabhouh were tagged with "Red Notices," according to the Interpol's official website.
The website also specifies that Interpol chose to publish the photos of the suspected assassins since the identities the perpetrators allegedly used were fake, using fraudulent passports to aid them in accomplishing their aim.
Also, Dubai police chief ahi Khalfan Tamim said Interpol should issue a warrant to help locate and arrest the head of Israel's spy agency Mossad if the organization was responsible for the killing of a Hamas militant in Dubai.
Meanwhile, a Haaretz probe discovered that the passport photographs of the agents who assassinated Mabhouh in Dubai were doctored so the agents would not be identified.
The discovery casts doubt on claims that the espionage agency that carried out last month's hit on the senior Hamas operative committed grave errors.
Various features of the people in the photographs, such as eye color or the line of a lip, were changed - slightly enough so as not arouse suspicion at passport control, but still enough that the real agent could not be recognized.
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Dubai Police Chief Dahi Khalfan Tamim. |
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Innocent until proven guilty. If anything was to be learned from this,it is that your country is a "big Brother" regime that will lose a lot of business as a result of your spying on everyone! Your dimwitted police cheif just expossed all Dubai cards for the world to see & avoid like the plaque.Who is stupid now? The Mossad would never use so many people for a low level hit like this arms runner.Think about it. And a few went to Iran after the hit? Are you kidding us? Your top cop blew his cover by overplaying this mystery far too long & no arrests. No European counteies involved are going to do anythingabout it either. They even said so too. Good luck in finding the Killer(s).
To #4 Fry When The Manitoba Gouvernement will settle all First Nation claims and treat the First Nation People as decent citizens Israel will Declassified All Winnipegers from the terrrorists list.
we in Australia 99% very happy the parasite is dead the other who are here claim that they are Australian they are not!! and the Australian Police will get them one by one like the ones who are in jail for terrorism in Australia and more will be charged.Mr PM Kevin Rudd if he wont's to stay in gov he better take care of Australia by not allowing the illegal boats full of terrorist to come here.Kevin you wont to kip yours job, take care of fairdinkum Ossie's,Dubai don't give a dam about us and we don't give a dam about Dubai, state that allow es terrorist in, we don't!
P: "You don`t need to inject succinylcholine AND smother someone, succinylchiline is a paralytic agent, it makes people stop breathing on their own...no need to smother." Oh, plllllllllease. Pumping him with enough shit to cause asphyxiation would have left enough in his bloodstream to stand out like a flashing neon light. Use a little, then use a pillow, and hope that the trace amount left in his bloodstream is missed by the toxicologist. p: "how do they know to pick exactly these 26?" The Dubai plodders looked at the hotel videos and matched every face with a passport photo. Dubai then asked the issuing country to match the passport photos from Dubai with the passport photos that THEY possess. In hundreds of cases the reply will be: "they match", but in 26 cases the reply was: "they don't match". Every mismatch points you to yet another memeber of the kill squad. Pretty standard legwork, I'd suggest.
Dubai Chief of Police is also saying that al-Mabhouh was injected with succinylcholine AND smothered. Please, I beg you, continue showing the world your incompetence. You don't need to inject succinylcholine AND smother someone, succinylchiline is a paralytic agent, it makes people stop breathing on their own...no need to smother. Also is anyone else wondering, out of the hundreds of tourist who were in Dubai during that period, how do they know to pick exactly these 26? The more I hear about this the less I think Israel is responsible.
Either way you have no proof. Rave on loony. We know 2 palestinians have been arrested.. Anything to say about that?
TOMY: "Mosad needs one or two agents ," To do what, TOMY? To actually kill him? Yeah, sure, you could probably do that with just one guy. TOMY: "26 ????? " NOBODY is suggesting that this dude was jumped by 26 burley guys who sat on him until he suffocated, TOMY. TOMY: "For what ?" In Case He Changed Hotels Without Bothering To Ring Up Mossad To Tell Dagan Where He Was Going. *sheesh* The guy knows he's dead meat if Mossad ever tracks him down, and he must have known that it pays to keep on the move. Mossad therefore has to assume that just because he is in *this* hotel TODAY does not mean that he'll still be there TOMORROW. Q: What do you do? A: Tail him without him spotting the tail. Q: Won't that take a lot of people? A: Oh, yeah. Heaps.
USA and its support NATO forces must be investigated and arrested for the killing of innocent Afghan people including the children. If world powers like Britain and USA can do all their best to investigate in the assassination of the Hamas Leader in Dubai, what about their killings of the innocent Afghans. This is a terror against humanity
groupie in Ramallah. Not only an expert in bomb vests, but DNA analysis. Wonderful endorsement for our Trafalgar Twit.
26 ????? For what ? It must be an Arab job .
Its impossible to underestimate Arabs. I'm not talking intelligence, delusionalism, just depravity, barbarity, intolerance, racism, sexism, you know just have a look around. There is no more xenophobic people on earth.
Even assuming the DNA and fingerprints obtained by the Dubai police are necessarily those of members of the hit team (and not, for example, the porter and the cleaner), the samples themselves tell us nothing. Has the Dubai police chief matched up the samples to named individuals or not? If a match has been made, why not announce the names? Why hold back? Or is all of this part of some sort of media stunt?
AS: "Arrest British representives of Goverment bombing Afghan civilian population !" Oh, please do. Lieberman and Netanyahu are just the sort on dolts to think that this is A Very Good Idea. So, yeah, arrest any British govt official who steps foot inside Israel. Please, do it. It would work WONDERS for Israel's reputation, and will raise Israel's stocks around the world. Of Course It Will.
So much for the 'no consequences' theory of the Dubai hit. While I think the guy deserved to be hit, the question remains, was it worth it? The next question is did anyone in the Netanyahu government consider for a minute the possible consequences? Or, for that matter, did any of them consider for a second how they would respond if caught out? The answer to the latter is clearly not. They still have not figured out how to respond. Idiots. Any aeronautical engineer in designing a system will have to ask the questions 'what can go wrong' and 'what happens if it does.' The Netanyahu government in it's purblind arrogance clearly never did a Failure Mode and Effects Analysis. In fact, they probably never thought past their initial impulse. Which is what you expect from children. And how many weeks has it been that they have been silent trying to figure out how to respond? Idiots.
just watch they don't tinker around with our election canvasses. I am a bit worried about democracy here, with foreigh governments running Israel internal affairs without even pretense of any proof there is anything to investigate...
we all know it was isrl that did it, they have decided that they are above the law. it doesn't matter what these people try to use as excuses, the general public, outside of the jews knows better, and will be watchign to see what their gov'ts responses are. if they respond wrong, the public will not take it sitting down. the world is waking up to the truth, and isrl is falling deeper into the abyss. gotta love what isrl is doing to itself,
test ... getting tired of not having my posts put up. so if i say i hate arabs will i get posted, isntead of stating truth about isrls criminal activities?
Many, mostly Israelis seem to be defending the hit in Dubai as business as usual and acceptable. They are logically saying that forging passports or whatever it takes to get a job done is acceptable/end justifies the means. If other countrys forge Israeli passports that will be acceptable as well? I didn't think so but thought I would ask. This is what the offended countrys are upset about. Every country has a right to know who is traveling in their lands. In the age of terrorism it is absolutely essential. Where is my logic faulty?
it doesn't matter what you people believe anymore, the world is waking up, and isrl is walking on thin ice, and its about to collapse. which is good news for the pals. so this is reason for isrl to work quickly for peace now, lol becasue if they don't the world will turn its back on them, and they can't afford to let that happen before isrl sets its borders. this is good news for the pals, because the world will finally see what isrl has been doing for teh past 100 years, and it will get dismantled and the pals can finally get back to living a normal life once again. God bless Palestine, power to the people who do not support terrorist isrl and the terrorist US, because they r going down very very fast. this is the best news for pals all over the world.
Mossad should get copies of the investigator's passports. Never know when they might come in handy.
You forgot to add that if these operatives were smart enough to get into the room and do the dirty deed they would be using gloves...or possibly not have fingerprints at all....this report makes it sound as if they partied...and then left the room. Things get more convoluted by the minute. But in the end when all else fails Blame Israel...and run with it.
population !
How do you know they did it? Do you have some inside information you're not sharing? So the Jews will get what's coming to them? That's laughable, because the only Jews who suffer when Palestinians retaliate are the young, weak, and elderly, those being the main targets of your terrorism, the kind of people who sit in cafe's along the sidewalk at midday. This man was a 100% legitimate target, as he worked for a militant group. Please note that i don't believe his children are legitimate targets, even though they may one day grow up to be members of Hamas. I hope you feel the same way about Israeli children.
noteworthy not a single USA passport involved
Actually it's your baseless assucations and accusations that are pathetic, in this case.
I think mossad is in trouble, why use Dubai. Hmm, strange, don't ever underestimate the Arabs okay, things are changing now.
you are a fool. the u.s., uk, et al are killing enemies abroad all the time. in case you do not follow the news, thousands have been killed by targeted killings just in the past eighteen months.
"Askhenazi and Sheperdic Jews have a unique DNA signature. This can be used to provide sufficient proof that it was an Israeli led operation." We both know it is the jews who did it. Chris and i both know that the jews wil get what's coming to them.
Killing a leader of a militant organization is not a war crime. It may be ineffective and involve more risk than benefit, but its quite a stretch to call it a crime. Wanton destruction of cities, random murder of civilians, rape and pillage of towns, murdering hostages and POWs- these are war crimes. if you call this a war crime, then you have to call Obama a war criminal for the pakistan missile strikes. If you call this a war crime, then you have to call Queen Elizabeth a war criminal for Operation Herrick. Misuse of the term leads to it's cheapening.
According to the Telegraph the crime of identity fraud is growing in the UK and affects close to 120,000 yearly. See: http://www.joincreditexpert.co.uk/telegraph/article3.asp. I wonder how much of it applies to Mossad - bet there are more Islamic terrorists involved in the above than there are Israeli Mossad (if at all) and definitely more of those than you would like to know.
If Tamim thought that falsely accusing the Mossad of this operation would make it unpopular, he certainly miscalculated. Below are the headlines from today's Timesonline. Mossad has become more popular than ever in Israel and more popular, or at least more feared and respected, around the world too. Of course, there are always the Johnnyboys and American Johns who will spin anything into a mistake and defeat for Israel. But Mossad is most certainly reaping the benefits of police chief's misguided and foundless accusations! "Rush to join Mossad after Dubai killing While condemnation flows worldwide after Hamas leader's killing, inside Israel agency has never been more popular"
youur pathetic denials (more per capita than any other country in the world) give you away
Your assertion that DNA evidence alone can pinpoint whether Israel is responsible because of Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews DNA is dubious. 1. Sephardic Jews that originated from Arab countries are no different genetically from Arabs. 2. Ashkenazi Jews could be europeans. Are you going to test if the perpetrator was a carrier for Tay Sachs? Give me a break!
What the heck is 100% proof????No such thing in forsensics.......
In 1997, under Netanyahu, Israel used Canadian passports and it was proved that it was their agents that did so. Unfortunately, Canada protested feebly against this, but Europe is showing a lot of anger. Perhaps, Israel expected a similar reaction from Europe. In the case of Jordan, they got Mossad, but Dubai didn't catch on to what was going on until it was a bit late in the game, lucky for Israel. Jordan apprehended Israelis using fake passports in 1997. Israel still has the same assassinating motives in its attempt to suppress the fight against its occupation of the territories. Of course, Europe will suspect Israel. Israel has done it before and has the motive and did something similar under Netanyahu. Great job, Netanyahu!
Det Inspector S. Holmes arrives hot from Scotland Yard. Well Of course Dubai couldnt send over Dahi Khalfan with his magnifying glass so no doubt the Dubai FM was on the blower to Mr Brown asking for his help in the matter in trying to further accuse Israel. When credit card ID victims get their ID stolen and money taken from their account, banks wouldnt even waste their time interviewing the victim because they know its a hopeless task. What possible information could an inoccent victim give as to whom stole their ID? Why is the British Government wasting everybody's time and British taxpayers money? Just to curry favour with Dubai
Agreed. The heads of civilized states cannot be heard uttering any "attaboys" at least in public, and few other states care. By "crowd" I was referring only to the Haaretz Talkback denizens. It is still a bit early to make assumptions about Dubai. Maybe the truth will never come out. Sometimes it doesn't. I think Oliver Stone has a better take on events in Dallas than the Warren Commission. And al-Mabhouh was no JFK.
Just heard that Dubai Police Chief Dahi Khalfan Tamim attened the prestigious police academy named after the best of the best in the business the world famous, Inspector Clouseau school of crime and investigation.
Sorry Declan's response was #40 not 38. here it is, read it and learn: Israel Democracy, Human Rights & The Abyss "Sit up and think all you cheerleaders that think the Dubai "hit" was a great thing. Who admire the cunning assassins & the plucky politicians who sent them. Who think that Israel can defy the world & get away with it. You cheer whilst your own democracy & freedom; even your safety is compromised.A govt that can kill it`s enemies abroad can kill its opponents at home. A Govt that breaks the law so easily can trample on your rights easily. Be careful what you wish for & what you applaud - it might be you next "
The DNA sample can also be used to show that those alleged to be involved were not and it therefore can be safely ascertained that the passports were in fact forgeries. The DNA sample can also be used to put together an ethnic profile of the individual involved. Askhenazi and Sheperdic Jews have a unique DNA signature. This can be used to provide sufficient proof that it was an Israeli led operation. Tie the two together and you may not have court of law proof to put Netanyahu in the docl to answer war cirme charges. But you will certainly be able to use it as proof that israel has forged the passports used. Thats why there is a hint of panic in the Israelis and Israel firsters.
Take them to a Kosher resteraunt and put them on the first plane back to the U.K.
The investigation is about identity theft and the use of forged British Passports. The murder is been investigated by Dubai. Two different cases, and two different issues.
And Iran can sue Israel for accusing it of attepting to reach parity. You ca name a suspect in a criminal case, and you can suggest that that person was working for Mossad the Israeli secret service. What has he done that is illegal?
Truer words were never spoken. Well said. For those who missed it, its response #38 read it!!
Duabi continues to surprise us with new evidence based on professional work. Did any of you expect a 27 minute video showing exact details of the operation, with names & photos? You continue to bury your heads in the sand while the world moves forward. One day you'll wake up and find things are no longer as you know them. That day is approaching fast...
You all basically say the same things "you can't be sure its us"(I hope) & "Dubai is stupid and don't really have nothing" (I hope). To my mind these are squeamish responses born solely from fear. Israeli citizens seem to unanimously support the crime. A murder committed in another country using forgery, deceipt, lying...etc What's to keep any other country from committing whatever crimes it feels necessary?? Against any other nationality! Using whatever means! And to H*LL with International Law?? Would you all support that?? What a wonderful model Israel (the only democracy in the Middle East, HA!) is giving to the world. So disappointing..
Where is Australian, British, French, and Irish outrage at Dubai for knowingly allowing agents of terrorist organizations to engage in arms deals in their backyards? If Dubai allows that, then they should expect whatever comes along with it...including those hunting the terrorists. Those countries crying foul at Israel should back off and thank Israel...if indeed it can be proven Israel was even involved.
You're being a bit ridiculous here in your attempt to deflect attention from truth. Dubai has a DNA profile from the evidence obtained at the crime scene. They never said they had a control sample or have matched it to anyone. Their statement about the profile being 100% proof is accurate since whenever the suspects are eventually tracked down, the Dubai authorities will be able to use the profile they have and compare it to samples taken from the suspects, thereby connecting them to the killing.
"THis would require a significant amount of fluids or hair--and I doubt that happened." Please stop. You certainly are not a nurse. Otherwise you would know damn well that a DNA match can be made with a single skin cell, a single drop of blood or a single hair.
"There is very little chance if any that DNA can last that long before it even colected. The Dubai police did not even suspect there was a liking for at least 10 days after the fact. By that time all prints and DNA were most surley compromised" Where do you get your information. Have you even bothered to follow the story? They found his body in the room the morning after the killing. They just didn't publicly announce the murder till 10 days later. Just because you or I didn't know about it till they went public doesn't mean they weren't already investigating it and collecting evidence from the beginning.
2 men leave on a boat to iran 2 men are detained and they are from hamas police force so far, I see nothing to suggest it was israel. Why all these countries aren't calling in irans ambassadors, or syrias ambassadors, or backchanneling to hamas' representatives is quite curious. I believe this was framed to set up israel to further drive the wedge between the EU and israel and to take the heat off irans nuclear showdown. It's classic...and why would the mossad a) use 26 people, and b) use people who live in israel? It just makes no sense at all...having said all that, a scumbag terrorist is dead, so let's all remember that...this man was using fake names, had 5 passports, and was illegally running arms from iran to gaza...but I hear no outcry about that, and I saw not one country lift a finger to stop this man on their own before it came to this....crocodile tears are being shed to be sure....
After Israeli apology,the diplomatic storm will calm down,but the fact on the groud will remain the same.A murderer who deserved to die is not a danger to the Israeli people anymore and all what those frustrated lefty friends of Palestinian violence and murderers can do is just whine that Mossad used foreign passports. And why not if even Linthwate admitted that MI6 would not use British passports in such operation either ? Let's face it.It is not about use of foreign passports,which seems to be common practice in the world of secret services,it is about Israel and your frustration that one of your heroes who has earned your admirations by killing innocent Jews cannot kill more of them anymore. More tissues?
I can't believe the Mossad would have been so unprofessional to leave so much evidence behind.
Or do the Dubai Police get frequent liar points? It seems that the longer this goes on the less actual evidence Dubai Police have. The drip feed of misinformation is becoming laughable....cross this line you die....no cross this line.... Put up or shut up. It seesm an amateurish means of trying to get Mossad to fess up..A place for Inspector Clsseau Why would anyone need 26 people to perfom this operation? This is not Mossads way. Heresay & cicumstantiality are no substitie for actual evidence. They're trying to round up the usual suspects.
Politics aside, a series of crimes are committed, and there is an obligation to catch those responsible. I won't mourn the loss, but civilization has rules that no one should be above. It's really that simple.
Dubai's trouble is of its own making. This Hamas terrorist roams freely in Dubai.Any Muslim criminal, underworld don can come and go out of Dubai without any restriction.India's underworld don Dawood Ibrahim wanted for serious crimes,safely enconsed in Pakistan is a regular visitor to Dubai.India can't do anything.Israel is daring and what it has done is correct.
"It is OK for Turkey to commit Genocide against 10 million Kurds and to steel their land.Nothing happens. But it`s not OK for Jews to defend their people" 10 million? Oh my God! Thats a bigger "Holocast" than the Germans perpetrated. As far as Holocasts go I guess the Kurds are number one. Jews are now in second place. Thanks for letting us know.
"Wait another month,& Dubai will be a laughing stock of the world !" Yeah, they will replace Israel!
that an ALLY may have used their civilians as pawns in assassination. If it was a Mossad operation, Jewish folk around the world might be excused for being enraged, because most of the stolen identities were JEWISH. It would show that the Israeli Government doesn't care about the lives of innocent Jewish folk being ruined by implication in an assassination. Any Jewish person cheering this as a Mossad operation, would have to be, quite frankly, completely NUTS
According to the Telegraph the crime of identity fraud is growing in the UK and affects close to 120,000 yearly. See: http://www.joincreditexpert.co.uk/telegraph/article3.asp. I wonder if the UK police are investigating these crimes to the same extent as they are investigating claims of idendity fraud on the part of the Mossad. Does anybody think the Mossad is responsible of stealing 120,000 British identities yearly? Can anyone explain why only Israeli officials have been summone by various governments even though most none of tghe false passports were Israeli and most identities belonged to people who had nothing to do with Israel? Many questions are not being asked - but a lot of answers are being offered to incriminate Israel, and Israel only. Sure smells fishy.
Dubai is grabing at straws here, they have no real proof, the assasians were pros. I find it funny that a big deal is being made about this. The Hamas arms buyer had multiple passports from different nations which he is most likely not a citizen of.
Israel is expected to behave according to standards of behavior not applied to bigger, more powerful countries. If we had, say, twenty times the territory, 10 times the population, and some natural resources - like oil, mainly - and, oh yes, if we were Muslim - or even Christian - nobody would have said a word.
Most of us already have!!
DNA can be collected in a room. Then, you exclude the DNA signature of people who should be in the room. What's left is the DNA from persons who should not have been in the room. And with today's technology, human DNA from sloughed skin cells can be identified months to years after the cels were sloughed.
The are some israelis that are still in denial, as for the DNA it is still valid as they had the body to work with. 26 assasins to kill one unarmed person in his hotel room WOW , they all came back to israel safely. Very impressive.
So does Telaviv ma cherie.
Is the Chief of police in Dubai asking Interpol to issue a warrent for the arrest of the the rogue murders doing arms deals in their country - focus on issueing arrest warrents for Khaled Meshal, after all he is such a good boy, never harmed a butterfly, neither has Hassan Nasrallah, these wonderful peace loving souls, your typical neighborhood boys, never harmed any Americans or Israeli's. While you about it issue police warrents, Mr Chief of Police, for the Prime Ministers of Syria, Lebanon and Iran for aiding and abetting known murders and kidnappers - the hyprocosy is beyond belief
I am very sure the chief of police is "very unbiased" in his investigation = its Israel, now what's the crime? Wondering if Australia, Germany, France & UK, is better off having the Israel copy passports than the 100's of forged passports the terrorist forge everyday, who's authentic passport did this Hamas murders use?
Don't give them any DNA samples for any reason. They'll just use it against you someday.
Which genocide are you refering to? This is why Israel will always be around,you people live off propaganda,all we here from you is ethnic cleansing and genocide. 1)Ethnic cleansing means to decimate an entire community or race. 2)Genocide means the same. Please inform us where the above two crimes are taking place.
The public and journalists are having fun with this because it makes a light hearted break from all the heavy stuff, but please don't pretend that it's for real. Only somebody at the level of moron could possibly believe that Mossad sent over 28 operatives to exterminate a cockroach; used the names of Israeli nationals; and then told some of them to escape via Iran http://www.ourchangingglobe.com/the-dubai-liquidation/
Only suspects arrested so far two PALESTINIANS.
... it may be to collude their response/conclusions with Israel...
But the Leftists have the phony moderates only turn up when its time for another phony peace process.
Australia was one of few countries that sided with Israel with regards to the Goldstone Report. However in light of this, the government is looking at "abstaining" from voting (which I hope they don't!) The Former PM, John Howard was a greater friend of Israel - miss him!
Well I guess Israel should care but is too arrogant to do so! The patience of the world is fast running out for a nation hiding behind a genocide which is rapidly disappearing into history. Sooner or later Israel will have to face the world on the same footing as everyone else. Is this really the action of a civilised nation, which they pretend to be?
Even this is not proven. Nothing is proven - it is quite the experience to follow comments by the people with supposedly complete complement of brain cells. Breathtaking idiocy with fetid antisemitism.
It was on Internet News Some agents flew to Iran. It looks as though Mossad was set up.
Mehmet its hard for you to hide your hatred against Israel. You claim Israel got away with 34 kikillings of US navy soldiers, Turkey got away with killing around 1,5 milion people. I do not need to mention when and who. Everyone who read these lines, you included know what I mean. What about Jonathan Pollard, sitting for a lifetime for spying for Israel. Give us a break, and stop speculating that Israelis will kill Obama. Tomorrow it will be written on a 1000 Arabic homepages that Israel have those plans... Merhaba
No body realizes that only passport pictures have been released...nobody thought of the CCTV pictures which which in dubai are HD quality to compare with passports before releasing. Besides this every picture is reproduced with 10 other possible forms and given to airports around the world that use advanced face recognition systems. Assasins must be on plastic surgery now or stuck back in Israel. Mossad has just lost 26 agents for a killing a guy going to get a few guns from Iran(which he can still get from 100,000 other places. Stupid. Dubai is a very safe place and look what these guys brought us out of no where.
Israel should learn what it is law. You can't finish palestinian resistence with murders. These actions will not bring peace. I feel i should warn people here, because they don't know kurdish and turkish relations in Turkey. In our country even a kurdish person can be president. For example Turgut Ozal. He was Kurdish. Is it possible for an Arab who lives in Israel.
the Dubai police chief is a bit of a a wanker-could it be that he got the wrong sample?
the Australian govt is going through a major crisis following a scandal with the minister for climate change. The govt has been under relentless pressure in parliament and has been desperate to divert attention from Minister Garrett, whose bungling led to 4 deaths, 94 homes burned and 250 000 houses at risk. The blame on Mossad has no basis or evidence but the Rudd Govt is determined to shift focus from its inept govt to cheap 'patriotism' regarding forged passports.
Well, I'm glad the British are sending their serious organized crime officers rather than the non-serious ones. Sounds a bit like a Monty Python sketch. They've got elections coming up, got to show a bit of muscle. Put everyone on the Group W bench & take coloured photos with circles & arrows.
the owners of the passports would have to make a complaint in england for police to take any action ! why have they not checked the uk passport office ? dubai accepted the passports as genuine at immigration !
it is well known that dubai is a center of espionage and passage for terrorists. it is well known that dubai is a center for iran's nuclear component smuggling as well as for their banking.
and will Sean Connery jump at the idea of starring in the show? Can't wait....... Regards.
UK wasn't helpful to Israel trying to get to the bottom of israelis being killed at mike's place from bombers from the uk.
Dubai, etc. etc. Wait another month,& Dubai will be a laughing stock of the world !
In a moment when the Euro-Arab coalition is weighed down by sorrow over the loss of their joint and priceless hero Mabhouh, I think we ought to be more considerate. I don't mean we should necessarily love our enemies, but just show some consideration in their moment of grief and sorrow. You can imagine how it must feel to be a European today. A bit of reserve would do.
#10 It is OK for Turkey to commit Genocide against 10 million Kurds and to steel their land.Nothing happens. But it's not OK for Jews to defend their people.
Sit up and think all you cheerleaders that think the Dubai "hit" was a great thing. Who admire the cunning assassins & the plucky politicians who sent them.Who think that Israel can defy the world & get away with it. You cheer whilst your own democracy & freedom; even your safety is compromised.A gov.t that can kill it's enemies abroad can kill its opponents at home.A Gov.t that breaks the law so easily can trample on your rights easily.Be careful what you wish for & what you applaud - it might be you next.
has anyone thought of the idea that the people who comitted this murder are the ones in the passeport , well everyone will be looking for someone else but they are right there infront of everybody hiding in israel, why would the british go there and not have them sent over to london, unless they are afraid of getting arrested!!
Their embarrassment must be total. One question also, why no 'protection' for this high profile hit? Did he feel so secure as to go it alone? Glad they nailed him.
makes the hero another Terrorist???
All this publicity is going to backfire on all British and Australian passport holders,we will all be accused of being Mossad agents. I wonder how many people enter Dubai each day on forged passports and have nothing to do with Israel? I wonder how many people enter any country each day on forged passports and have nothing to do with Israel? DNA proof? Rubbish,they have no proof what so ever.
... is that ASIO was already investigating three OTHER dual-nationals who were suspected of abusing their Aussie passports to spy for Israel, and that this investigation had started at least six months PRIOR to this event. Come on, Rudd, it's clear that allowing Oz-born olim to retain their Aussie passports is a MASSIVE security hole, and the only way to plug it is to immediately cancel all passports for dual Australia/Israel citizens. After all, there's a war on terror! terror! terror! so now it NOT the time to leave such a gaping hole unplugged. Plug that hole by insisting that Aussie-born olim have to use an Israeli passport from now on.
What a show up (again) for UK if all this proves not to be true- not to mention Dubai. Mossad, if indeed it was them which I doubt would be welcome to "clone" my UK passport anytime to kill terrorists especially as the UK harbours and supports terrorist organizations.
Hotel pens, pencils? Magazines? Edges of wardrobe doors etc etc. Plenty of other places not regularly cleaned in a hotel room. Take DNA sampleS from the crime scene, match them with DNA sampleS from other guests rooms. It's quite plausible to have found DNA and finger print matches with the people who registered at the hotel.
why does every "information" from dubai has to be so misleading, unclear... we still do NOT know, why the "credit cards link to mossad", and probably we will also never know, what mr. tamim means now, with "categorical dna" and "crime scene". go and google, you will find that NOBODY ever understands his statements. everywhere just the same quotes, without explanation, but a big question mark added by the author. it would have helped incredibly, if mr. tamim had added where the dna was found on the crime scene, on what place/material and whose it is supposed to be. i dont know the definition of a "3rd-world-investigation", but by gut feeling i would call it one. in europe he wouldnt get away with this weekly drivel...
... but Israel doesn't provide this kind of satisfaction below his belt, nor below the equator. Shame on Kevin Rudd to pander to the friends of terrorists. This episode had nothing to do with the millions of travelling public, but ONLY with the killing of a murderer terrorist.
Well done to Dubai Police, finally someone has the guts to confront the killers, and they will be brought to Justis. What happened is unjustified, and soon a retaliation will take place, which is unjustified too.
Looking at the photos os the alledged shooters - it is obvious these are Eskimos on vacation.
USS Liberty and Rachel Corrie were both declared deeply regretted accidents and that is what they were: orchestrated accidents: Liberty sailed under communications blackout, all radio channels jammed, from Egypt to Israel the ship looked like a Russian provided spy ship, Then despite the blackout a fake message was received, purportedly from an Israeli fighter pilot that claimed the Liberty had fired on him.It is now cler that that message was fabricated by Russian electronic warfare. The Liberty also had an American flag, but not wen it sailed in Egyptian waterLiberty flew the flag only close to Israel and had changed its ownership under very suspicious circumstances. No wonder the ship was attacked that was the purpose of the setup True Israelshould not have fallen fo the trick and so payed 13 million $ to the relatives of the seamento the satisfaction of the USA. Rachel Corrie waskilled ndrthe bulldozer, because the driver lost contol of the behemoth, when a sniperbullet hit him
293392 Mossad operatives participated in the operation. While 3292 were strangling, knifing, punching, electrocuting and making the Hamas terrorist laugh to death, the rest were visiting the famous tourist attractions like the hundreds of thousands of foreign workers who have been employed as slaves with no rights what so ever, the aquarium where the rare fish and mammals species have been hunted to extinction, the beautiful environmentally-friendly, 0 ecological damage islands that were created in the middle of the sea, and the museum of the oppressive, dictatorial government of Dubai. When the operation ended, some agents escaped to Iran, where Israelis can find safe heaven, and the rest took off in a spaceship to the Alpha Centaury system. Finally, it was revealed that Mahboul was on vacation and shopping for expensive designers suits in the mall. Dubai police has 100% proof of all this.
catch assassins? Give them a medal for destroying someone who is responsible for so many deaths. Why give a terrorist gun runner the value of looking for his killers???This is sickening.dubai police want the attention to be movie stars ridiculous
She'd better head back to the Philippines immediately.
Who cares? A known terrorist has been killed...it was coming to him. This was a great modern assassination...today you can't avoid being caught on camera or having someone find some DNA. The thing is...no one can do anything with this info because they don't know who these people are or where they came from. This was far from a botched assassination...the target was killed and everyone got away clean = success. What people should really be outraged about it the fact that this terrorist was allowed to do business in Dubai and that Iran is supplying Hamas with weapons.
It's ironic when these guys get so indignant; it's okay for them to kill innocent civilians but it's quite another to kill one of their guys. Hint: If you don't want to get rubbed out, don't be a terrorist.
We need some clarification here: Meanwhile, a Haaretz probe discovered that the passport photographs of the agents who assassinated Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai were doctored so the agents would not be identified. Steady on HAaretz, do you have the original photos to compare them with? or is it a leak from Mossad? I guess if you tell me you have to kill me!!
The plot is so similar to 911 attack.
even stronger than 151!
Now that Dubai police has pictures,videos,100%proof DNA,urine,semen and fecal samples Where is the conclusive proof that Israel or any other country killed this guy?Just capture at least one of these 26 involved.They had to leave somehow.Complete incompitence on their part. This will be long forgotten in a few month from now.
In a hotel room where you can probably find hundreds of fingerprints, they are 100% sure they have the fingerprints of one assassin? Amazing. But also impossible. Is it the same assassin who fled to Iran? Since of course all Mossad agents flee to Iran for safety. Can you put a name on the fingerprint? Since one must assume all the assassins were using false IDs, exactly how do you know the identity of the fingerprint? Unless it belonged to some arab fatah or hamas terrorist whose fingerprints you already have. Not likely you have records of Mossad fingerprints. If they are ever forced to produce all their evidence, it will prove they have absolutely not a shred of evidence against Israel.
I doubt it. More than likely it was 2 guys with 13 identities a piece.
hey mehmet loved reading about the turkish military and your islamic governmet. looks like erdoggic is going to have another place to live. don't forget the gul.
It doesn't make sense that only one assassin's DNA is found in the room, and there were 25 other "assassin's" in others rooms, and no other DNA is found. It's a hotel room, you can go in any room and find numerous DNA samples (check the sheets, you would be amazed). So, why is it the assassins? Is the DNA marked as such "I'm an assassin"? Fingerprints are everywhere in hotel rooms, unless Dubai has regulations where their cleaners wipe all prints. Unless the prints (from the assassin, if they are) are on file with Dubai or Interpol, they are useless. It doesn't matter, it's a moot point. Seems Dubai is trying to play Israel in the arena of public perception and media. Israel is master of this arena, regardless of if they are involed or not, they won't be played. Time to go to plan H, Dubai/Iran/Syria (because A, B, C, D, E, F, and G haven't stuck).
Taking prints and DNA from a hotel room where thousands of guests have stayed over a period of many years, then saying you are 100% sure about the identity of one of the killers? A twelve year old wouldn't believe that, that's why we have never seen a plot like this on TV. The Dubai police chief needs to go back to school.
That Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's a expert in disguises and fingerprint lifting.
... is the same crowd of Goldstone cheerleaders. But Goldstone, when asked what IDF should have done instead of Cast Lead, said that pinpoint commando raids and targeted killing would be fine. So Dubai passes the Goldstone Good Housekeeping Seal.
The Ruler of Dubai is facing a total collaspse of their country by insinuating Israel is behind them, they best be 100% sure...
Dubai, hardly a secure place for 'agent's to meet. I doubt we'll ever know all the facts. Whoever did it planned it perfectly. Glad this arms merchant is no more.
As usual, Israel believe they are the elite in the Middle East and grossly underestimated Dubai's police work as third world, the same mistake they made with Hezbullah in 2006. As arrogant as they are, they believe they can get away with just about anything.
Bye for now,see you soon at the movie house next door.please try and join me.
Israelis are like James Bond, they have a license to kill. They even killed 34 American navy personnel by attacking USS Liberty and the captain of the ship testified against israelis and still nothing happened, so Israelis are free to kill even American soldiers, still it does not count as crime. Whenever an American is killed abroad, hell breaks loose except in Israel where IDF killed Rachel Corrie, nothing happened, no protest by American govt, nothing. If Netanyahu kills Obama in front of world media and millions watching it on TV, STILL NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN, I'M 100% SURE, Netanyahu would safely fly home the next morning.
There is no global DNA database, if you want to confirm DNA or same for fingerprints you would take the samples that have you and compare them against a control sample taken from the person so for Dubai to make this claim it must have somewhere a control sample of the assassin(s) same with fingerprints so where did this come from? And if it is 100% correct if it is disproved will they shut up until it is actually irrefutable as this is damn annoying sue for liable an slander if he can't prove it true damages have been incurred
Give me a break. 100% DNA proof. This was carried out by Palestinian, Arab and Iranian agents. This was a sloppy execution and I doubt that Mossad, even though they've failed in the past, would be this careless. I think the Dubai police should be talking to Syria, Iran, and the Palestinians. The al-Mabhouh character got his hands caught in the cookie jar. He was working both sides and got whacked by the muslim brotherhood.
THis would require a significant amount of fluids or hair--and I doubt that happened.
Dubai is a heaven for dark, shady secret agents of Middle Eastern contries, & the operatives of terrorist organizations. Now the only thing they focus on is assasins of the leader of a terrorist organization. Cause they want to be sure that Dubai still stays a safe heaven for the dark characters of the Middle Eastern countries.
Unless the dubai authorities have some way to correlate alleged fingerprints or alleged biological evidence with reference samples from a particular suspect then the Dubai authorities have nothing, nada, zilch, bupkiss beyond a pathetic fishing expedition and an attempt to save face. Does anyone seriously doubt that Britain -- facing V2 rockets today -- would hesitate to forge a passport from some other nation in order to halt those rockets? We all understand the formal protests, but this is becoming an absurd comedy. Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was very much a combatant in a war that has -- in defacto terms -- been going on continuously for decades.
Time to make someone pay, or even the whole country as far as I am concerned. Murder is just that! Time to classify Israel as a terrorist state!
What a bunch of hacks in the Dubai security apparatus. They've been schooled, and they are desperately trying to "prove" otherwise.
There is very little chance if any that DNA can last that long before it even colected. The Dubai police did not even suspect there was a liking for at least 10 days after the fact. By that time all prints and DNA were most surley compromised
I think we have a good idea for a new reality show. Pretty soon the Dubai police will find the killer hiding in the hotel room's bathtub.