U.K. court defers Palestinian bid to arrest Ehud Barak

PSM: "Instant detention without first investigating the merits of the accusation or no matter if hostilities are on going are the issue.Instead of calling for extradition from a country where extradition applies AFTER the merits of the accusation are adjudicated." PETER, PETER, PETER, the obligation is to deal with war criminals *as* and *when* they come within your jurisdiction. A British court therefore can't do as you suggest. Think of it this way: a British court has no obligation to go out and try to NAB a war criminal if the allegation does not involve British subjects, but they are under an obligation not to IGNORE it when a war criminal is so stupid that he blunders into their lap.

I'm not about to waste my time trying to find what you're mumbling about Just wondering, when are you ever going to take a trip to where the action is, instead of playing with your keyboard??

He should have waged operaton Cast Lead, sooner than he did and throughly completed the campaign

under British law. Instant detention without first investigating the merits of the accusation or no matter if hostilities are on going are the issue.Instead of calling for extradition from a country where extradition applies AFTER the merits of the accusation are adjudicated. The Goldstone investigation is a prime example.He admitts there is no level of criminal evidence but the Brits. under their rules arrest anyway.

Sometimes you read comments and think that in Israel, they must have blinkers in their minds. The Pals are to blame for everything. Even though Israel has all the nukes, planes and tanks. The Pals are taking all the land, even when its Israel that keeps building illegal settlements and evicts people from their homes. Pals are tarrorists and killers, even when it was the IDF that killed 1000 civillians and over 300 children. Forget ALL the evidence, stop all investigations, not even any need for an investigation because, everyone know, it's all the Pals fault. Man up and take some responsibility for your actions.

Barak is criminal and must pay for Gaza crimes although this will not happen thanks to the jewish lobby in Britain

Invariably one that assumes a Jewish name when posting is found NOT to be Jewish Let's have a little test, your Parsha was?? Your Haftorah was?? If No answer, then I've proved my point, your're faking it

Great post, dont forget about the Europeans financing Arafat and all the billions the Europeans gave Arafat went to murder Israeli civilians. Abbas also ordered the Munich massacre

Abbas should be arrested for ordering Munich massacre in 72

As an Irish Jew I am disgusted by all those posters who use these threads only for racial slurs and abuse at any opportunity. Please find a alternative forum more suited to your intellectual capacities. While I feel I am wasting my time, it may interest you to know there are in fact Israeli-Irish organisations, we just tend to avoid these forums and threads for obvious reasons.

You seem a very bored gentleman if these are your pleasures in this world. I have pity on you!!!

Haaretz does indeed have some extraordinary columnists that deserve praise : Gideon Levy, Amira Hass come to mind.

I look forward with pleasure to the public humiliation of Barak and other Israeli war criminals. It seems that this is the only recourse for those who seek justice.

Most Jews were diaspora Jews even in 70 AD, so it would indeed be interesting to see who should return to where.

Art. 146. The High Contracting Parties undertake to enact any legislation necessary to provide effective penal sanctions for persons committing, or ordering to be committed, any of the grave breaches of the present Convention defined in the following Article. Each High Contracting Party shall be under the obligation to search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be committed, such grave breaches, and shall bring such persons, regardless of their nationality, before its own courts. It may also, if it prefers, and in accordance with the provisions of its own legislation, hand such persons over for trial to another High Contracting Party concerned, provided such High Contracting Party has made out a prima facie case. Each High Contracting Party shall take measures necessary for the suppression of all acts contrary to the provisions of the present Convention other than the grave breaches defined in the following Article. In all circumstances, the accused persons shall benefit by safeguards of proper trial and defence, which shall not be less favourable than those provided by Article 105 and those following of the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War of 12 August 1949.

Who are the best lawyers in the world? The Jewish lawyers, and Barak will get it for free many of them, so it's a lost couse.

Hehehe we know all about the attorneys slogan "no win no pay" must have started by Palestinian attorney and people like you foll for this no suprise??? Get one and than you will see how much is going cost you, you maybe would have to sell Pal to pay them for nothing hahahaha!!!

where do you get this stupid information??? Most of the people in the civilized world support Israel, what the Arabs think and say we know for a long time.Stop dreaming and get on with live nobody is interested in yours made ups:)))

I's very amusing that so many enemys of Israel are reading Haaretz, I presume this is the only way they can find out the truth about Pal and Israel :))))

You sure are some Brit! Have your ancestors been there when Victoria was the queen? How about being honest in defining your real identity and loyalties?

Of course the UK would defer the arrest of Israel's Barak!

PSM: "A loophole in British law - in the International Criminal Court Act 2001 and the Criminal Justice Act 1988 - allows private individual complaints of "war crimes" to be lodged against military personnel, even if they are not British citizens and the alleged crimes were committed elsewhere." I suggest you grab your copy of Geneva Convention IV, PETER SM, and thumb your way down to Article 146. There you'll see that what you are describing as a "loophole" is actually an obligation of every High Contracting Party to the convention.

the issues--so has to resort to stereotyping. "That`s because of all the Guiness they pour into their throats. They stop thinking rationally and their subconscious thoughts come out uninvited." Sarah. Israel needs no enemies with friends like you Sarah. BTW would you care to give me a loan---I am told that you are always good for money lending. Touche.

"That is the best guess estimate the US`s primary intelligence agancy has given Israel existance." Is that the same CIA that was so sure about the WMD in Iraq?

"there will be CHEERING in the streets while you bedouins KNASH your teeth and wale in pain" It's "gnash" and "wail".

"Perhaps you didn`t you know Murray of Montreal, most of the Palestinians have been evicted from their own homes a long time ago." Yao, Jake, it seems that you don't know that the Jews were evicted from their homes about 2,000 years ago. Guess what. They're back!

There is to much at stake politically. If he backs getting the courts into politics or trade union boycotts of Israel it opens up a pandoras box he will never be able to close. There is an election coming next year in England and there are alot of jews & supporters of Israel whose votes have the power to make or break an election result. Arrest a politican then both Israel & the UK will expel each others ambasedors in retaliation. There will be boycotts of British goods which will cost the country millions of pounds it can't afford to loose right now. EU countries like Germany, Poland & alot of the newer members would condemn it and it would probably be discussed in the European Parliament & become a major discussion topic in the US & condemnations of the British government & courts. I think that Brown will send a couple of government officials to the anti Israel lawyers to say quietly drop this issue its going to hurt England more than Israel so you can have your day in court

That these slime balls deserve.

A loophole in British law - in the International Criminal Court Act 2001 and the Criminal Justice Act 1988 - allows private individual complaints of "war crimes" to be lodged against military personnel, even if they are not British citizens and the alleged crimes were committed elsewhere. They were represented by two London law firms - Irvine Thanvi and Natas (ITN) and Imran Khan and Partners - which on their behalf applied for an international arrest warrant, claiming that Barak committed war crimes and breaches of the Geneva Convention during the winter Gaza operation. Should the court not decide whether to issue the warrant, then his firm would appeal for an injunction to stop Barak from leaving the country.

Hamas created the problems in gaza, they bear full responsibility for all lives lost, damages to homes and infrastructure. had they not been constantly kicking the Israeli tiger in the ass for the last 8 years, they would not have found themselves having to deal with this same tigers teeth. Poor gazans those horrible ISraelis are cutting off the tools hamas needs to make more rockets oh boo hoo

BJ: "So, let`s get arrest warrants for them and put them to trial. Extradite Meshal for starters." BEN, there is a reason why Meshall absolutely, positively, will not step foot on British soil. Would you like to take three guesses as to what that reason might be?

PSM: "BBS Occupied by whom ? Egypt? Hamas is the government of Gaza and performs the functions of government there." Just as the PA performed those same "functions of govt there" as part of the Olso Accords, yet nobody ever claimed that those Accords ended the occupation. (Just as nobody pretended that Denmark wasn't occupied because the Germans allowed Danish institutions to keep functioning after 1940). An occupying power grabs all authority to itself, and then has three choices: 1) Run everything itself (Gaza after Six Day War). 2) Delegate the "functions of govt" to the occupied (Gaza after the Oslo Accords). 3) Force the occupied to fend for themselves (Gaza after disengagement). NONE of those ends an occupation, because in EVERY case the IDF insists it still has the "authority" to step in at any time, and for any reason, to sweep it all away.

next time Abbas goes anywhere why not arrest him too? Or Haniyeh or Meshal. They're all guily of war crimes too. How grown up.

Right now Israel is rogue state of the month. In a matter of weeks squealing bleeding heart liberals will move on to Sudan or Iran or North Korea or China. After a few more months it'll be Israel's turn again.

'Extradite Meshal for starters...' Okay. There's a couple of ways of doing this. First way would be to recognize the Palestinian state and sign an extradition treaty with it. That would be one way. Second way would be to annex the West Bank, making the inhabitants citizens of Israel. That would be the other way. If you don't like either, don't complain.

Likewise US should arrest all the anglo saxon invaders and their progeny for inflicting genocide on the native indians.

We are all accustomed to seeing the US administration looking the other way when Israeli leaders commit war crimes. As a Brit I had hoped my native country's leaders would show more cajones. Apparently zioprop is working there too.

How much money and unscrupulous bullying has it cost to convince the world that Hamas use of civilians as human shield is Israels war crime? All it takes is a bunch of antisemitic lefty sell outs and smart pro Palestinian propagandists who know how to unleash their pupets hatred.

Reading these posts today is something of a hoot. You've got one poster claiming that antisemitism is the reason an admitted and convicted child molester should not do the time. Another is convinced that all Muslims should be arrested, presumably down to babies in arms. And few actually read the article. The judge in the UK deferred the case. It wasn't dismissed. It wasn't taken further. All options were preserved. Kinda like Israel not taking the military option off the table in the Iran nuke matter. And I think there's two or maybe even three who have actually read at least portions of the Goldstone Report. I even read one poster today on another thread who trashed Goldstone, but cited the Hamas references in his report as a reason for not negotiating peace with Abbas. The Israeli RIGHT needs a new song book.

The British government should be tried for its crimes against the Jewish people and humanity and thus have a conflict in hearing any such case. After the British had illegally severed 2/3 of the Mandate to create "Jordan" and barred all Jews from that 2/3 in 1923,the British, in a pointless attempt to appease Arab interests, then barred all Jewish migration to the Mandate in 1939. While the Allies fought the Nazis, the British also fought the Jews, simply to prevent Jews from entering the Jewish homeland. The British continued capturing Jewish refugees and placing them behind barbed wire in Cyprus until 1948, three years after the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed to the world. Until Britain's conduct during the Mandate period is addressed, all British citizens everywhere should be subject to arrest.

Did the Iraqis launch missiles against the US? No,but how many civilians Iraqis died by the hands of Americans?How many Iraqis tortured?. Did the Chechnians launch missiles on Russia?how many civilians died there?Sri-Lanka,how many?Swatt-Valley,how many?.Take those people to court,and then come and talk to us.

I don't blame them for trying.The way the UN,EU,are behaving,i would try too.They know they can go long with their crimes,and they can charge Israel for almost anything,and get support for it. Launching Qassams for 8 years,sends suicide bombers,kidnapping,and worse,and never have to pay for it.They can bomb London,and charge Israel for bombing Gaza.

That's because of all the Guiness they pour into their throats. They stop thinking rationally and their subconscious thoughts come out uninvited.

They charge him for war crimes against the suicide bombers,the childrens shooters,the women stabers,the kidnnapers,the kneecappers, the roofs top buncers,the Qassams launchers.

Barak went to Camp David in 2000 to cut a deal on peace and would have gone for something like the Geneva accords. Arafat went to Camp David determined to find a way not to make peace and did so with the right of return. So who are Palastinains trying to indict? Who is the British Labour Party trying to pillary? Why Barak, of course. This is not in any way surprising since Palastinains and a strong elemint of the British Labour Party appear to disagree with Israel's existence, but it does bring up the very real question of whether a two state solution is ever really possible if Palastinian beligerance is a given for the indefinite future regardless of any proposed political settlement, regardless of withdrawal of any or all settlements, regardless of what becomes of Palastinain refugees in Labanon.

Based on the following statement from the report, it would not be too difficult to prove Barak as the defence minister has his fingerprints all over these crimes. "Taking into account the ability to plan, the means to execute plans with the most developed technology available, and statements by the Israeli military that almost no errors occurred, the Mission finds that the incidents and patterns of events considered in the report are the result of deliberate planning and policy decisions. 62. The tactics used by the Israeli armed forces in the Gaza offensive are consistent with previous practices, most recently during the Lebanon war in 2006. A concept known as the Dahiya doctrine emerged then, involving the application of disproportionate force and the causing of great damage and destruction to civilian property and infrastructure, and suffering to civilian populations. The Mission concludes from a review of the facts on the ground that it witnessed for itself that what was prescribed as the best strategy appears to have been precisely what was put into practice.

Goldstone himself said the evidence(page9)"does not pretend to reach the standard of proof applicable in criminal trials" You yell criminal,now prove it!But you wont,you will crawl away as usual when challenged. Your post is a honest as your self annointed title.

Maybe the Jewish groups in the western democracy should bid their countries to arrest Ahmadinejad Assad,or any other of those guys every time they are planing to visit.It should be easier to prove their crimes against humanity, and sponsor and aid terror.That should keep the judges and loyers busy for a while.

...they jacked up the price when they release Samir Kuntar, talk to the Israeli's. P.S. Your deflection is noted, Gaza is still occupied by Israel, it's all in the report. Goldstone simply confirmed what everyone who read the Gaza Disengagement Plan already knew, and of course confirmed the current and previous UN Secretary's General Annan and Ki-Moon have already made clear. Israel occupies Gaza. It's beyond dispute Braham.

The UN just hosted Ahmadinejad, Chavez, and Qadhafi, and the US could've locked the lot of 'em up. I'm sure the US could've come up with a small crime or two to charge each of them (fencing stolen Rolex watches, or somesuch). Another lost opportunity. MV

No one would have thunk this would happen 15 or 20 years ago, now Israel is on the defensive with allegations of war crimes and its ministers are sought out in international courts. Israel is no longer the David versus Goliath or the darling of the West. They have seen its true nature. While currently these law suits may be no more than a nuisance, the future may prove otherwise and those responsible for crimes against humany will have to pay for their crimes.

in reponce to Chem Ben Kahan. Israel assinates Members of Hamas and Fatah. They even excute paraplegias. What other county behave this way.

What a sad man you are M B london Israel bombs UN bases in Lebannon and UN schools in gaza, they shoot blindfoled captives they shoot people that are down and wounded they use chrildren and women as human shields they bomb hospitals they destroy people home to get a better position to kill easier. They use phosphorus bombs on civilian populations.If these are not war crimes bloody hell what are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is disgusting! Don't they know that Jews are immune for prosecution? How dare these filthy GOYIM be so impertinent. Have the Jews not suffered enough? The Jews were only defending themselves when they incinerated the school with white phosphorous. The children there were not worth a single Jewish finger nail anyway.

Did you see the picture of the Chief of Saff of Canadian Armed Forces General Walt Natynczyk. He looks like a pig to me.Originally from Winnipeg and joined the Canadian Forces in 1975 after spending 5 years as an Air Cadet.He has served in numerous regimental command positions at all levels from tank troop leader up to commanding officer of the Royal Canadian Dragoons. General Natynczyk?s operational experience consists of and includes a one-year-long mission with the United Nations in the Former Yugoslavia as Sector South-West Chief of Operations in Bosnia and Herzegovina (1994) with British forces, then as the Chief of Land Operations, UNPROFOR HQ in Zagreb,Croatia.How many Serbs did he kill? You are a scik person Vickery.Your anti semitic hatred stares in our eyes from your posts in Haaretz. Readers go to: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/about-notresujet/bio/gen-walt-natynczyk-eng.asp to see the picture of Gen.Wal Natynczyk NOTHING PERSNNAL.JUST JUDGE FOR YOURSELF Vickerys hate!

Send your picture for evaluation I'm willing to bet you have a maniacal look and drool dripping from the mouth

Attorney's receive their due when judgement is made in their clients favor If the suit is found to be without merit, the complainant must pay court costs and penalties for bringing a suit without merit and for wasting the time of the court The Attorney will be reprimanded You've been watching too many old Perry Mason re-runs on TV

Brod, you really turn off my stomach. Do you have anything sensible to say in these posts?

Polanski arrest by Swiss, Have one thing in common.Both are Jewish...Although Roman Polanski was never associated with Jewish life after WWII except making the movie The Pianist. Hi mother was Christian whose grandfather was jewish.for Nazis she was Jewish as she maried a Jew and her grandamther was Jewish.The cases against both Barak and Polanski are a clear example of the revival of anti-semitism In case of Barak on trumpeted charges of war crimes during Cast Lead action in Gaza. he Nato Commanders have been carrying air attacks on vilages in Afganistan during which 30 to 80 Afgani civilians are killed weekly. So far over the last 2 years thosands of Afgani men,women and children are killed by NATO trops.last week a German officer called in an air strike against a convoy of fuel tanks and 80 innocent civilians were killed.Today 38 women and children were killed in a bus. The recent past Chairmen of NATO JEPp Hoot ordered air attacks..British Commander in Afagnistan ordered bombings

and costs are awarded against them? The attorney or the "starving" Pals.?

What are war crimes? Old definitions do not fit the new type of assemetrical warfare. I think a new Geneva conference should be convened to rewrite the "conventions of war" to cover the new realities.

Dont blame Israel for the deaths and injury Pal hhave revelved. Daddy ran so fast he allowed Hezbella to place ammunition in urban places. Daddy ran so fast he allowee his family to be used as human shields. Dont blame Israel blame daddy for running.( was it to the bank

Many think the Palestinian leaders have done no wrong So, let's get arrest warrants for them and put them to trial Extradite Meshal for starters

It may have done that matey but tell you something... your bestest buddies in the CIA have given your little nest of racists, child murderers, organ traffickers and war criminals 20 years! That is the best guess estimate the US's primary intelligence agancy has given Israel existance and no matter who you try and blame, people will always say "you could have made peace, you could have stopped killing them kids, you didn't have to use illegal weapons against civilians"

Chris my dear old thing even by your standards that is a silly suggestion. Have you forgotten, or were you never aware, that you CANNOT take legal action against a statement made in Court. It is 'privileged', the same as a statement made inside Parliament.

Displaying their grotesque double-standards when it comes to Israelis and Arabs.

I know of one other correspondent that has shown evidence of having done so. It is 575 very dry pages. I think that it would be almost impossible to convict Ehud Barak of war crimes based upon what is in that report. The 'criminal' behavior appears at a lower levels where some commands clearly avoided criminal taint and others were most active in pursuing it.

Trying to beat me with a lower interest rate ---are you.

David Nigel Braman -- you conveniently omit the context in which the Palestinians have committed their "crimes against the Jewish state." For nearly three years the Israelis have imposed a stranglehold on the enclave, snuffing out any hope for improvement in their lives. As such it is a provocative, violent act by a state that pays no heed to international law and the rights of non-Jews living in "Greater Israel." Moreover Israel carries out assasinations in Gaza whenever it wishes. The "crimes against the Jewish state" are admittedly feeble attempts to avenge the many wrongs done to the Gaza Palestinians. They do Israel little, if any, harm. Yet they are a reflection of the Palestinian hatred for its oppressor. And it is only getting worse, I am afraid.

three and a half millions and more hatred per square inch of irishmen then you would find in a hive of wasps.

...occupies palestine!!!!

quite right too linthwaite.i strongly advise you try some thinking.it may help.

Lol...hilarious you are...

they shall succeed and still are disappointed. the jew haters are delighted.they advise a large suitcase and whoop and holler in joy and song.but they will be disappointed.the beguiling ehud barak will travel to london many many more times and they will not touch him. there is a spark of ineffable happiness in being hated and shot at to no effect.

The same will happen to Israel

I've been noticing and reading your vile comments for a long time. Do you ever have anything sensible to talk about? Here are few of your notions: 1. Killing of kids, women and civilians by Israel is ?OK? since UK and US forces also kill civilians in Afganistan, Pakistan and Iraq. 2. All of Gaza is terrorists and it?s ok to eliminate everybody in gaza. 3. All Muslims are evil and seems like you think that Islam could be eliminated from the earth. 4. Everything Israel do is wonderful. 5. All of Jeruselem is Israel and has been for the last 3000 years. Well, I think I would just ask you 1 thing. Did you ever go to school? Doesn?t seem like because your opinions are so Crude and you seem pretty extreme for Haaretz.

Well said he should go to the big house. This guy is the first Israeli P.M. who used air power to attach Palestinian civilians. He is what you described him and must be prosecuted.

nothing wrong. In which case why not suggest that Barak sue these Palestinian activists for false representation in the UK courts for damages. Afterall Barak did nothing wrong and he should win with absolutely no problem. Afterall that is what they are going to do with the Swedish tabloid which accused the Israeli Defence Forces of harvesting organs from Palestinians killed to order. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and after Barak is victorious there will be no more arrest warrants.

That tight little mouth and the mean piggy eyes.

War Crimes?? How many civilians die every day in Iraq and Afghanistan every day? How many atrocities do China,Iran, Sudan commit? Ehud Barack should get an international Medal for the work thats he's done. Do exterminators get arrested when they get rid of pests like cockroaches, rats and Mice?

99.9% of world leaders/functionaries are apt to be sitting in some other countries jails? Should be very interesting.

To all the bedouins who are aka pals should pray to allah for the FALSE TESTIMONY they committ against the Nation of Yisrael, long ago the man ruler of eygpt was given as many chances as the plagues which fell upon him and his people, this LIVING G-D is the one and same, YOU will SOON FEEL the WRATH of the ONE Who Has No Name and there will be CHEERING in the streets while you bedouins KNASH your teeth and wale in pain. Watch your backs bedouins masalami !!!

Of course. And Brown should go to for killing children and civilians in Irak & Afghanistan. Right?

Initiating a civil lawsuit usually doesn't cost much. In fact the attorney won't collect unless he wins your case at which time he gets a "generous" cut of the winnings.

Didn't the sun set on the British Empire long ago. What jurisdiction does a UK court have over international affairs. Maybe England can prosecute Putin for Georgia and Afghanistan.... or Rumsfeld for Iraq. The Palestinians in Britain need to look into the law-abiding activities of their brethren. Like Islamic Jihad and Izz-el-Qassam to achieve their political goals.

Why anyone would even want to go to the U.K. is beyond my imagination....visiting Londanstan is certainly not high on most peoples list...London is going to suffer because of its inability to stand tall against the islamists...do you have a burka tailor yet?

If you think your post to ottomik is clever please be assured it is not. On the other hand...do have another drink labhras...afterall the Irish tradition of drunks and bigots must be carried on..............

boring, boring

You must not pay much attention to events. Israel has long had a "targeted assassination" policy under which it murders those suspected of terrorist activities without benefit of charges, defense or trial - usually killing more innocent Palestinians than "targets." You make a fool of yourself whining about witch hunts while the vast majority of the non-Jewish world believes the Palestinians are the victims. Not one single country in the World supports or accepts Israel setttlement and occupation policies. Every organization but the IDF that has looked into Cast Lead has found evidence of war crimes by Israel (as well as Hamas). When most of the world agrees the complaintants have been wronged, a complaint is not a "witch hunt." Nor is killing civilian noncombatants remotely comparable to ill conceived charges of witchcraft.

He will never know when a prosecutor somewhere in the world will decide to grab some headlines by grabbing him.

So Barak will be acclaimed in the UK for his Lifetime crimes achievements while Polanski is jailed in Switzerland for 30 years old sex charges ? God save the Queen ....

a la Iraq. Lets see--Jack Straw, Jeff hoon. Lets see---Brown aided in suppying the money. Just as guilty.

Sorry,but Gaza no longer has any Israelis except one,Gilad Shalit.Maybe you would be kind enough to send a posting asking for his immediate and unconditional release.

What a lowlife you are. Can't you extract from that tiny brain of yours at least something approaching relevance to this story? Or are you just another Zionist shill trolling Haaretz to slander those who oppose wanton murder and ethnic cleansing disguised as a struggle for your pathetic, parasitic existence? Could it be that Miggy knows a thing or two about occupation and the spirit of resistance to racist, supremacist ideals? The biggest threat to the false Jewish narrative is truth. Ottomatik, you're scum. What must you do each morning to not throw up at the sight of your ugly mug in the mirror?

Israel should warn Britain that should they touch Barak and any other Israeli officials, Israel will do the same to British officials traveling to Israel. And those Islamist-Jihadist Trojan Horse that undermines Israel's national interests should also be countered.

..."Chief sitting bullshit" or "The time's up wingnut"? Keep making a fool of yourself. It's obviously making a big difference in middle east affairs. You're a 'legend in your own mind'.

This must be very disappointing for you. It simply is not working anymore, is it? The shell game has been exposed.

I believe you need a course in reading comprehention related to the English language. What you refer to as Chapter 4 seems to be: Part 2 - OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY: THE GAZA STRIP However, the Part talks about the Blockade, not about occupation. And for your information, there is a difference in the definition of the two terms. The situation in Gaza after the 2006 pullout by Israel does not fit the definition accepted in international law of occupation. There are no Israelis in Gaza, civilian or military. There is a blockade which is a legitimate instrument used in war and whether you agree or not, there is a war going on - both a propaganda war called pallywood and a shooting war. Rockets were fired into Israel during Yom Kippur. And these were not the only ones. So before you make unsupported claims, I suggest you read your sources carefully.

you commit a crime, you go to jail. if the state of Israel and it's politicians are guilty, the accuser has to prove guilt. the state of Israel has to prove nothing. so, if there is nothing to hide, stand trail.

There is a small period of grace remaining but only if israel agrees to set up a nonmilitary commission to investigate the charges of the Goldstone Commission. If they do not or if the commission, if set up, is shown to be a sham, there is no doubt those like Barak and others cahrged with war crimes will be subjuect to arrest if travelling to most European countries. They will have to do a lot of conference calling because the chances of Israel setting up a commission is unlikely. They know what they would find.

We can only hope that one day, this terrorist as well as all the others that hide behind their enablers will be arrested and taken directly to the ICC for prosecution.

It is to make it clear that Gaza is still sealed off by the IDF and not by the Palestinian soldiers who only allowed to carry and old guns as per Israeli permission. Gaza has no freedom of movement where people are not allowed to travel freely nor proper health service. It is to remind you that Barak has recently killed over 1500 mostly young and innocent people in Gaza and left over 5000 in terminal injury. About time Uk and other nations of so called Democracy and freedom lovers issue arrest warrant for all criminals like Barak and Mofaz.

The UK caved in and refused to do its legal job of detaining and prosecuting known war criminals. Unfortunately, money is respected more than principles these days.

"The best reaction to the UN report and to all those that sign boycotts of Israel: ban them from Israel for life each and all. Please."Zionist what self respecting humanist would want to spend a cent in the home of war criminals and their slavish supporters. You are delusional.

It's more like have another welfare check. An American taxpayer

Similarly, Beware Israeli. According to your calculations, Muslims will also control the arsenals of Europe in 50 yrs. If for no other reason, Israel might want to stop abusing unarmed Palestinians and killing their children.

Should get very interesting. I guess this will eliminate 99.99% of world's leadership -no?

Mahmood Abbas for the Munich Massacre Haniyeh and Mashaal for 7500 rockets fired at innocent civilians Swiss government officials for continued financing of international terrorism from the Nazis continuing to today Nasrallah for the murders of thousands of innocent Lebanese and over 240 US Marines Ahmadinejad for the murders of hundreds of innocent Argentine Jews, for the murders of thousands of US and British service personnel, and hundreds of pro-democracy protesters UNIFIL command for approving the genocide of Muslims in Bosnia and Darfur The UNHRC for condoning mass murder by the Muslims

Simple. R=Israel to issue international arrest warrants for all Fatah, Hamas, etx gang members valid world-wide and see that they are implemented. Even if a lot will try not to go after it, these warrants will make life and travel of these people much more "interesting".

Who are they loyal to more, Britain or Palestine?

They won't forever. Lopsided situations eventually come to an end. In the meantime I pray (and donate money) for the safety and well-being of the Palestinian people.

The Golden Rule says: "Treat others the way you want to be treated." I guess the tribal arabs from judea, samaria and gaza want to have the same done to them wherever they plan to visit -- to be arrested for alleged things! But what else can you expect from tribal minds?

No-one ever bothered to arrest Arafat, the master terrorist and murderer. The Lybian "president" is treated like royalty, the Iranian "president" is free to come and go as he pleases. Small sampling of those known to be behind mass murder across the world, and UK wants to arrest the Israeli minister for daring to defend the country.

He is not only responsible for present-day atrocities, he is also responsible for killing children "collteral damage" in his raid on Lebanon in the 1970s when he went after the PLO He is in the ooops we killed children camp of Israeli politics and it is about time he goes to jail where he belongs as a war criminal.

Your statment that ' Starving Pals have money for nuisance suits" is as stupid as saying " opressed jews in the world have most of the money in the world." ......

a person carrying diplomatic immunity CANNOT BE ARRESTED ! the usual subjects are filling these columns with total crap based on their hatred of jews instead of using the little brain they possess like labarse as the prime example !

I'll bet that you have the bars and stars hanging on your living-room wall!

It says that Israel has since 1967 arrested 750,000 palestinians which is impossible unless we are talking about arresting around 500 palestinians a week every week since 1967. It also directly contradicts the numbers recorded by the PA in their own figures. Doesn't mention tha fact Hamas used civilians as human shields. It talks about palestinian casualties but it does not define if they were armed combatants or civilians. An armed combatants cannot be put in the same class as an unarmed civilian. The UN itself admits that most palestinian casualties were combatants. It also makes no mention of the fact this war was a result of Hamas rocket fire or that Israeli citizens were killed by rockets. Israel is condemned for keep its borders with Gaza closed but it doesn't mention Egypt keeps its borders closed. Sometimes you have to go to war to protect your people & Barak was protecting Israelis instead of running he should stand proud & say I have nothing to apologize for.

All palestinians and pakistanis should be indicted for terrorism and murder. Arabs, pakistanis, paledtinians were behind in all terror activ ities in England. or what you already forgot the bombing in the subways?. poor Britain.

of Gaza and performs the functions of government there.Especially after they shot up their Fatah brothers. End of story

The best reaction to the UN report and to all those that sign boycotts of Israel: ban them from Israel for life each and all. Please.

?CNN: Hamas uses civilian infrastructure, including schools, houses, kindergarten facilities, hospitals, for storing and launching rockets and other ammunition, placing training camps inside populated areas in violation of Geneva Convention and international law. ? ?Ms. Rice, The Secretary of State, told reporters at the State Department :? Hamas participates in activities like human shields and using buildings that are not designated as military buildings to hide their fighters" Italian newspaper: Gazans say Hamas kept them in homes used by gunmen ?Palestinian civilians have accused Hamas of forcing them to stay in homes from which gunmen shot at Israeli soldiers during the recent hostilities in Gaza, the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera reported. ? EU aid chief: Hamas 'enormously responsible' for Gaza war ?Michel echoed Israeli criticisms that Hamas used civilians as "human shields" by fighting in populated areas and, describing Hamas rocket fire on Israel as a "provocation", he said in English: "Hamas is acting in the way of a terrorist movement." Top IDF officer: Hamas made 'monstrous' use of children during Gaza op ?The IDF Gaza Division Commander on Thursday, meanwhile, branded Hamas' use of women and children during the offensive in Gaza as "monstrous" and "inhumane." Brig. Gen. Eyal Eisenberg said the civilians were sent by Hamas to transfer weapons to gunmen during the offensive. He also accused the Islamist militant group of booby-trapping many of the civilians' homes. "Entire families in Gaza lived on top of a barrel of explosives for months without knowing," Eisenberg said. ? Sources: Hamas leaders hiding in Shifa Hospital basement By Amos HarelHaaretz ?Senior Hamas officials in Gaza are hiding out in a "bunker" built by Israel, intelligence officials suspect: Many are believed to be in the basements of the Shifa Hospital complex in Gaza City, which was refurbished during Israel's occupation of the Gaza Strip. ? WATCH: IDF uncovers booby-trapped school next to Gaza zoo By Haaertz Service ?Israel Defense Forces troops this week uncovered a school in the Gaza Strip rigged by Hamas militants with a large amount of explosives. The school, located next to a Gaza zoo, was entirely surrounded by a fuse connecting to the explosives. Inside the abandoned classrooms, IDF troops found a number of weapons. ? Hamas raids aid trucks, sells supplies By YAAKOV KATZ AND JPOST.COM STAFF Jerusalem Post ?Hamas on Monday raided some 100 aid trucks that Israel had allowed into Gaza, stole their contents and sold them to the highest bidders. The IDF said that since terminal activity is coordinated with UNRWA and the Red Cross, Israel could do nothing to prevent such raids, Israel Radio reported. ? For the first time, Gaza militants fire phosphorus shell at Israel By Yanir Yagna, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service ?Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip on Wednesday fired their first phosphorus shell into Israel, which exploded in an open area in the Eshkol area in the western Negev. No injuries or damage were reported. The phosphorus shell was among the 14 rockets fired from Gaza into Israel on Wednesday.?

...no one fell for Ariel Sharon's ploy. See Chapter Four of the Goldstone Report, soon to be made into a movie.

Perhaps you didn't you know Murray of Montreal, most of the Palestinians have been evicted from their own homes a long time ago.

British crimes in Iraq ,where British soldiers tortured to seath 5 catched youths in Basra shouldn't go unpunished.

not want to be Barak.

Actualy it should be the other way round,the Israeli Embassy should ask for the arrest of any Palestinian minister visiting the U.K.not on alleged war crimes but on war crimes full stop.This is in line with Palestinian propaganda,they were given back Gaza on the pretence that it was occupied and should be liberated if Israel wants peace. They have done nothing but commit war crimes against the Jewish state,by firing rockets and missiles into civilian towns and villages.

"Have an other drink." ottamik to miggy How about a loan???.

as his 'visit' might get extended as in UK it is the UK courts that decide matters of immunity.

When will Israel seek legitimate warrants against Hamas and Fatah terrorist??? Arabs should stop wasting other people's time with their witch hunts.

The speed at which muslims are multiplying in Europe Christians will be the minority within 50 years.

Brod and you seam to be one that flooded and contaminated usa

and child killers

Have an other drink.

as they are the ones that brought Cast Lead upon themselves

Maybe I should sue these 'Palestinians' for providing moral and financial support to various bus-bombers, homicide-bombers, checkpoint-soldier stabbers, kindergarten-mortar and rocket bombers Etc?

It is time the UK arrests the Islamist-Jihadist Trojan Horse in its soil. They are nothing but terrorists that have flooded and contaminated the UK.

He should be tried for war crimes and complete disregard for the captive civialian population in Gaza.

I'm not sure that Ministers of a foreign government do have immunity in the UK. Foreign office diplomats yes, random politicians I very much doubt, as there are several international leaders of ill-repute who can not risk landing at European airports.

Goldstone admitted(page9)"does not pretend to reach the standard of proof applicable in criminal trials"