Turkey PM: My people rejected Israeli participation in NATO drill

I suppose Mr Goldstone was also an islamists. Thats the problem with the Zionist state who ever disagrees with them is an islamists. That makes Jesus Crist an islamists too.

Contrary to his intentions fundamentalist fanatics are in power, and his army has failed to control the situation

...Invade Turkey, much the same way we persuaded them to Invade Iraq. Raise your hands if you are up to it!

None of the German generals (in English we don't call them Marshall) were Jewish. Unfortunately many Anti-Semites in Turkey like to call anyone bad a Jew. Even Necmettin Erbakan falsely says that Ataturk was a Jew to discredit his achievements. And stop using the great Ataturk's name you are not qualified to do so.

That is not fine, to telling bullshit about Ataturk. His Nation is the protector for many jews who was escaped from the Crime of the Nazi-Regime! He is the No.1 in Europe and Latinamerican States. All Arabs don`t like him, because he leave their alphapeth. You should respect him, Marshall Ataturk represent the peace! The other Generals of Ottoman Empire who was in the East of Turkey had German roots. Example: Liman Sanders, Erich von Falkenhayn, Freiherr von der Goltz.... Today you can not decide about Ataturk and the Republic of Turkey, because these Generals had not turkish roots! The Armenian Deportation was done by these german Generals. A lot of these Generals had jewish roots, it could be possible that Hitler took revenge 1933. The Turkish primeminister Erdogan says his family is from Georgia. In Georgia is like Armenia a Land with high christian Past. Many Turks believe that Erdogan is not a muslim. He is a wolf in sheepskin, used the muslim Idendity to save the Christian.

You say that there is no anti-Antisemitism in Turkey. However a recent survey don in Turkey by a famous Turkish polling organization showed that 1. Most Turks have never met a Jew 2. Overwhelming majority of Turks would not want to have a Jewish neighbor How do you explain this?

It seems that you're living in Turkey doesn't allow you to see beyond the tip of your nose I did the easy thing, Googled "Anti-Semitism in Turkey", lo and behold I came up with the following as but one example, there were many more citations also available http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/01/anti-semitism-in-turkey-is-out-of.html As they say "Live & Learn", have a ball!!!

The truth is,untill the beginning of last century more than 30% of the population of Turkey was non moslims, today less than 0,1%!!! Some time ago Vecdi Gönul (turkish defence minister) said to journalists: Do you believe we would be able to create Turkey without ethnic cleansing of non moslims! Ataturk was a massmurderer just as his predecessor!Israel should recognize the armenian genocide - immediately!

There is no such thing as antisemitism in Turkey...The figures about the sale of Mein Kampf is hugely exeggerated. This is a planned act. USA and Turkey agreed on Neo Ottomanism for Turkey's future role. Isreal knows this probably, they even think this may be for their benefit in the future..Think of Turkey as the leader of İslamic Geograpy..Isreal would want this, instead of more dangerous Iran... Look at things from an international point of view. No nation today has the freedom to choose its friends or enemies. Look, Syria was an enemy for Turkey a few years ago, now they have abondened the visa requirements.. Israili people may rest assured that Turkish people has nothing to do with antisemitism.

It looks like Turkish authorities and military disagree with you therefore they pay more to Israel to renovate their military aircraft and tanks instead of having the manufacturer in USA and Germany do it.

Israel is discovering the real Turkey. Antisemitism in Turkey is at an all time high. Hitler's book Mein Kampf has been the most popular book for years running. The Turkish antisemitism comes from the mouths of journalists and university professors, supposedly the most educated people in Turkey. Turkey was never a reliable ally. In the 1967 war, Soviets flew over Turkey to supply Syria. In 2003 Turkey banned the US from entering northern Iraq.

Israel is neither a European state nor a part of NATO. Why it would expect to involve itself in NATO exercises or expect NATO to assist it is impossible to comprehend. I support Turkey's decision. Israel, a Middle Eastern state, should henceforth seek to integrate itself into its own region and not consider itself an extension of Europe nor seek NATO membership.

there's an article in Debka today, reporting Turkey can't pay, or wont pay, her debts to Israel. No one gets a free ride, especially a nation that has sold its soul to terrorists. Turkey will become another third world w/o Israel's being her ally. Turkey a huge joke on itself and she will pay, war is veeeeerrryy expensive and the Turks are cheap screws.. If they can't pay now, what excuse will they have when the war is in Turkey?

also. When USA and EU countries sell military equipment to Turkey they have conditions that they cannot be used against the Kurds. This is why Turkey buys arms from Israel and Israel renovates the American made tanks and aircraft in Israel.- David Israel Turkey can still buy arms from America, and Turkey can buy arms from many other countries. The US also has conditions on arms it sells to Israel. They can only be used in self defense. I do not see how keeping the Palestinians in Gaza in an open air prison can be called self defense. But if Israel can get away with using arms for quelling its occupied people then Turkey can use the arms to put down insurrection. Every educated Turk knows that Israel is Turkey`s natural ally and Arabs are not. ?David Israel I believe that Turkey is and can continue to be an Israeli ally. But few Israelis seem to know this. The Arabs can be also. The Arabs do not need to be excluded. Until Israel vacates the conquered territories this cannot change. That is what the Saudi report suggests. They should also be Israel?s natural ally as they are all neighbors and have many issues that can be solved only on a regional basis. Water is one of these, oil pipelines, environmental issues, economic ties, etc. Israel is in the Middle East, it needs to learn to live there. It is not European by tradition, values or history. Unfortunately the AKP government caters to the uneducated and poor who vote for them in order to receive a yearly care package of coal beans and Bulgur- David Israel Your sour grapes approach to Turkey is smacks of bitterness that as an American I cannot share. Turkey has done much for America, which is why I defend Turkey. Israel has treated Erdogan in a shabby way. While he was attempting to serve as anarbtrator between Israel and Syria, Israel bombed Syria. That was a slap in the face. The sequence of events including the fiasco at Davos and everything from then on has done nothing but worsen relations. Israel knows nothing about diplomacy. They do not attempt to strengthen relations with those that would try to help.

Israel needs Turkey and not the opposite. which means: not a very nice strategic achivement for israel.

They don't want to be associated with Israel anymore. Israelis are dooming themselves today. Dutch

...and do something about the settlments and the israel-palestine conflict.

it takes many more generations for civilization to enter the Islamist lands.

ever stolen technology/data from USA and sold it to an adversary?

24hs. Or less. What lie will come next? Why not just say: we are dumping Israel and joining the Islamic League? Why not be honest once in a while and tell the americans that Turkey is leaving NATO for good? Life will go on as always and Israel, the US and the few Western Europe countries still free from moslem influence will be able to prepare themselves to receive the tens of thousands of refugees, not only Jews but also non-moslem secular Turks that will flee from the-soon-to-become a new Saudi Arabia (without oil) or a new Iran (also without oil but with all the Ayatullahs). Good luck and enjoy the new era, Turkish women and young generation, wellcome back to the 13th. century.

These are the reasons of Israeli gov's fails of crimes.Israel lost Turkey's partnership in the M.East. Now the time is think and unnecessary talk everywhere for some Israeli diplomats.I am sure if these position contunies,second 'One Minute' will come.

Tony, If the Israelis killed 1400 Palestinians. How many Kurds has Turkey killed and not a cry from the rest of the world???

See the headline, it says it all.

the Turkish Islamists are baiting Israelis and while the Israeli govt should be ready for the inevitable, there's no need to help Erdogan and his ilk.

of Armenian's Those alleged 1400 weren't so innocent, most were being intentionally used by Hamas for Human Shield purposes

That's the reason that Israel is a supplier of electronics and equipment to the U.S. Armed forces, which only wants the very best for their troops in the field It might interest you to know, that Microsoft has a major plant in Israel, again noted for it's quality & expertise

"Israel does not want drones to end up in Terrorist hands" - Baruch Gold No, IAI/Malat has had trouble strengthening and adopting the Heron to carry the Turkish sensor package. No vast conspiracy Mr. Gold. Just trouble integrating another countries equipment.

Before scarify Turkey coz of its relations with syria and iran,you should consider its geographical position!

"I would not be surprised if Israel shipped those drones to be defective as to buy time" I would not be surprised if even defective drones would be viewed as evidence of the Jewish genius ...

after all israelis are war criminals who killed 1400 innocent Palestinians including children and women

Apart from Turkey, that wished to add some indigenous crappy camera to the Heron.

Anyone who read the entire article in Zaman Daily would understand that the newspaper suspected the source and wanted everyone to understand that the government was clear that the drones were not the issue.

Israel has been doing everything diplomatically possible to keep the relations with Turkey good despite all the negativity emanating from the AKP and Erdogan. Even after the very harsh words from Erdogan in Davos Israel thawed the relations very quickly, however Turkey / Erdogan does not stop with the harsh anti Israel words and actions. It is really very sad that a great republic created by a great leader like Ataturk is in such a shape today.

"I would not be surprised if Israel shipped those drones to be defective as to buy time" I would have been really surprised if even defective drones weren't ultimately a proof of the Jewish genius ...

Those who warned about Turkey's trend are now proven correct. The leadership of Israel, especially defense, needs changing.

This is not about Israel, Operation Cast Lead, or anything else to do about Jews. It is about who, Iran or Turkey, will be declared the caliphate so as to continue the Islamist terrorist goal of "raising the crescent of Islam over the White House."

By now, any Israeli government would realize that delivering any UAVs would be a benefit not only for the Turkish goal of exterminating Kurds, as they did the Armenians, but also for Hezbullah and its masters in Iran who would ultimately have access. Unless a fail safe is built in to the UAVs, as they are into satellites exported by Israeli companies, the government should order the deliveries canceled. There are other, friendlier, countries that seek the technology - including India and Colombia. Priorities: Security over money.

Turkey's response to israel's disgrace for Turkey in Dafus. It's not about GAZA it's about israel not respecting Turkey's prime minister. The Turks are not arabs !!!!

makes no sense at all.

When Israel made these agreements they did so with a secular, moderate Turkish government and not with the current Islamic ruled Turkish regime and its understandable that Israel is not comfortable handing over its sensitive technology to an enemy sympathetic with Israel's enemies. I would not be surprised if Israel shipped those drones to be defective as to buy time and avoid handing over a working model to the Islamic nation of Turkey.

It's sad to see how the country of the great ben gurion, a real friend of all turks, and Turkey drift away. I hope this will change in 2 years when there will be elections held again in Turkey.

Is it the people in question Haaretz reports about or is it haaretz that every day the story changes... What will be the story next.? My guess is Israel did participate but in unmarked planes and uniforms how about that! You read it here first!

The whole idea that Turkey is doing this because of cast lead is really hilarious. Turkey doesn't operate from concern to palestinians. Nevertheless, it should be understood that Turkey has security concerns in Iraq, Iran and the Middle East. If this region blows up (which is happening) Turkey will be affected. There are those who argue that there is a consistent shift in the turkish foreign policy. Turkey is also reviewing it's Ataturkian legacy more logically these and she understands that she can use this the ottoman legacy to both balance Iran and project power. While it's true that Iran, Turkey and Israel were the traditional forces in the western policy that were used to contain the Arabs, but this is changing. It is not the Arabs that need to be contained, it is Israel and Islamic extremism. The collapse of the Arab world can be more dangerous to the west and to stability. My own presumption is that Turkey is trying with American assistance to balance Iran and contain Islamism.

"When USA and EU countries sell military equipment to Turkey they have conditions that they cannot be used against the Kurds" I do not see any restrictions on using aircraft and helicopters from USA against the Kurds. Perhaps you are just dreaming?

"Israel should stop immediately all sharing of intel with the Turks and stop all arms deals." That would be fine. The competition is ready to step in, and Israel would lose an export customer.

Turkish prime minister is after a muslim and by all means and because of past declarations and actions he wants to go away from being a secular country and to become sort of a beacon in the muslim world. he thinks that for his ties with wetern countries and being NATO he has a special power. Israel should be very careful with today'sTurkey. I hope the REAL army will very shortly take over the goverment in order to keep the Ataturk view os secularism, otherwise they will side with Iran and will be the rebirth of the ottoman empire

Turkey should stop helping Israel out with it's water shortage then.

The quality of Israeli manufacture and the ability to meet contracted deadlines has been a persistent problem for Israel.

Israel is humiliating it self and turns the other cheek to turks! Turkish primeminister Recep Tayyib Erdogan has repeatedly said "we are listening to our people voice".

Turkey is not a friend but maybe the biggest foe of Israel simply because it plays the double game.In front it plays friend ,in the back hold hands with Syria and Iran.Let's stop them before it's too late.

Turkey wants to play ball with Syria it must forst trash Israel in any way possible. That's just the cost of doing business.

When USA and EU countries sell military equipment to Turkey they have conditions that they cannot be used against the Kurds. This is why Turkey buys arms from Israel and Israel renovates the American made tanks and aircraft in Israel. Every educated Turk knows that Israel is Turkey's natural ally and Arabs are not. Unfortunately the AKP government caters to the uneducated and poor who vote for them in order to receive a yearly care package of coal beans and Bulgur.

Another bad day with the English Dictionary.

is it because Erdogan's Jewish taylor did not deliver his hand-made suit on time?

"A call on every country to refrain from any act that could harm the atmosphere of peace and stability in the region". the peace between Syria and Lebanon,or the one between Iran and Iraq.The stability of Iran and the Gulf states,or Lebanon.Where do they live? There is no stability or peace in the region, never was,and Turkey is one of the great "donor" for the lack of peace and stability in the region.

Any excuse will do. Why not just admit what happened. Turkey can't let Israeli war planes in their country because of the emotions raised by Cast Lead. Making up silly excuses is folly.

So it was a business decision,not a humanitarian decision.Nice to know. They need the drones in the fight against terror Like in Gaza?.I wonder if their way of fighting terror(kurds)would be preferable by the Palestinians.

Lets say Turkey is using the Palestinians with its arguments with Israel. Lebanon's Hezbollah is using the Palestinians with its war against Israel. Iran is using the Palestinians to build its Nukes. Syria is Using them with its war with Israel over the Golans. Jordan & Egypt are using them to keep getting the funds from the U.S. The Saudis are using them to stay in favor with the U.S over Israel. Libya and if I keep going I most likely name half of the world countries. Does not make sense for Israel to solve the Palestinian problem expose these countries and get them of its back. I thought Israel is the master of the pre-emptive solutions.

That Turkey bought military material from Israel who couldn't delivery it at the promised time rate. So Turkey should next time buy from someone (Russians or Chinese)who can deliver it without delayed problems.

Well, if that's the case, Israel should convene an Armenian genocide symposium with the unstated reason -- not due to the ostensible reason of escalating Turkish government hostility against Israel per se -- but actually due to a stale shipment of Turkish taffy received two weeks late.

Israel' delay of delivery of the Herons is probably an anger factor, especially for those who supported signing this deal and for those who actually signed it. It is a bureaucratic nuisance more than anything. But I do not think this really is the reason for all this mess. Having said these, there is really no explanation of why the Herons got delayed. Israeli Defence Industries are such efficient institutions, it is impossible that they did not finish the job on the day they promised they woud, israelis probably wanted to deliver the stuff late on purpose, I do nto believe they did not finish the job. Why ? Anyone's guess...

" Israel should stop immediately all sharing of intel with the Turks and stop all arms deals." That would be fine. The competition is only waiting to step in, and Israel loses an important export customer.

The Heron deal leaves much to be desired. However, it was Turkey that asked for certain technical changes. These changes are time consuming, one need not use that as an excuse either. So, what is the true reason vis a vis the NATO drill.? The answer lies in the political circle. The military may well be secular, so is Syria. Syria is no match for a confrontation with Turkey, in fact Turkey occupies certain Syrian real estate. Israel and the Turkish military have always been supportive of each other, sometimes under trying circumstances. Let us hope that the current hiatus will pass into another chapter of short lived anger.

Cancel all military gear sales with Turkey immediately else you find it used against you by Syria and Hezbollah. And, if there's a way to remotely cripple the Herons you already sold them, do that. Let Turkey get equipment from Iran. PS: NATO is finished.

Turkey is not the only nation to object....if USA wants to bring its ugly sister to the NATO party then it will have to give a party of its own and invite who it wants

should stop immediately all sharing of intel with the Turks and stop all arms deals-Isser As a memeber of NATO Turkey canshop in teh USA. It canalso obtain comprable technology from any European country, Russia or China. The one who benefits most id Israel. The loser here would be Israel.

So you think you're funny? Turkey has granted legal recognition of Israel's sovereignty and Turks deep respect Jewish people.

How is the cancelation of the Israeli participation going to speed up the delivery of those planes ?

Also Justice Goldstone wrote the report not because the reality of a massacre in Gaza but because he didn,t receive Haaretz gratuitously.

Turkey needs to keep the Islamists on side and also to keep NATO and the USA on side. Therefore two contradictory press releases, one for Islamists condemning Israel for Gaza, another discussing the need for Israeli equipment in the War on Terror. Just shows, you really can have it both ways !

Against all their traditions of secularism and Turkish,not Arabist,identity. Not a very convincing reason,Israel delayed till the product was up to standard then deliverd.

Has anyone heard of The New Islamic Ottoman Empire?It It will soon appear at our doorstep,courtesy of Syria,nuclear Iran,Sudan,Hesbollah,Hamas,Palestinians and Israeli!!!? Palestinians.Wakey ,wakey.Turkey has just protected it,s northern frontier with a game of football placing the Armenians in a temporary sleep mode.Beware of 2012 (Nostradamus)

I wish it was due to political reasons rather than an unfulfilled promise..

So it's a business problem who escalated up to a diplomatic problem? I hate it when contracts aren't followed. It's like your renter doesn't pay you at time. So you have to go behind him to get your money.

If the reason for cancellation of a drill were a supposed delay in the delivery of IAI Heron drones, Turkey's president wouldn't bash Israel over the media. If he does, then the supposed delay is just an excuse for a political rant. Turkey is emerging as a country engulfed by Iran and signing an accord with Syria, not a NATO country, nor a reliable country.

Turkeys FM himself told the press that it was because of Cast Lead, weird if you think about the Armenians and the Kurds, now this is the reason? Give me a break. Israel should stop immediately all sharing of intel with the Turks and stop all arms deals. The Turks opt to dod business with Syria and Iran, why should Israel willingly help their enemy obtaining Israeli secrets.

Anybody can claim anything, the plausibility of the statement is then up to each and every one to asses.