Turkey PM: Israel should mull future without us as ally

They way Israel is going, it soon may not have any allies, and it may be confused about what God really meant. According to God, Israel cannot occupy all of Palestine because God said in Judges 2:21-23 I WILL NOT EVICT ANY OF THE NATIONS WHICH JOSHUA LEFT WHEN HE DIED. The Jebusites where already in Palestine when the Israelites arrived. The Jebusites had built Jerusalem, and inhabited it for 100 years after the Israelites arrival. So, when God made his vow not to evict any nation, the Jebusites were still there. In the academic world, many notable scholars and historians maintain the Jebusites were the forebears of the Palestinians. The Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory is a violation of international law. Sadly, Jewish religious beliefs don't supersede international law. If international law had to conform to the beliefs of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism and Taoism, there would be no international law. With no allies, Israel may be in trouble.

Oh, how true ! Shalom Meschiach !

If Israelis pray correctly then God will grant victory over all. No need for allies. Israel needs victory, not peace. Every time the subhumans attack Israel will win, over and over, forever.

I believe that we hared enough from the Turkey from Turkey A bias and an opponent of the state of Israel so If he wants to sever ties lat hem those how want to work with Us are welcome those ho don?t can go to wear ever the Jews do not need the world the world needs the Jews

As a Jew I'd rather keep it tight with Turkey!so you want to 100years ago to some questionable genocide?!So why don't you note that America murdered countless natives!so did the Spanish to jews and others.The French killer over a million Algerians!the list goes on.Are they better brokers for peace given their nastier pasts?At least don't forget what the Ottomans did for Jews when they were being slaughter in Spain! Be objective please!The Gaza offensive was a big mistake so was the Lebenon war. Erdogan like any good human and a leader of strong nation that once ruled the land feels obligated to put it right,what's right is right!Open prison it is. Come on guys are you so blind that you can't see the human tragedy being played out!let's stop this blame game and keep relations with these historically good relations good! Peace out!

These so called Jews live in Palestinian Land ilegally. Sderot is not Israeli soil and it will never be under International Law

Israel should mull future without U.S. as ally! America is finally waking up to ISRAEL'S ATTACK on the USS LIBERTY.

If Turkey is serious about joining the EU, then showing some backbone on human rights issues is a step in the right direction. Europe hated the Gaza war, and so did Turkey. Picking a fight with Israel could be Turkey's ticket into Europe. The alternative is the Europe rejects such overtures, and Iran picks them up.

Erdogan and his Islamists. They will ally Turkey with all the wrong people for Turkeys long term future.

is that being the most sensitive of her "friends", to the palestinian issue, it's natural that turkey will be the FIRST that israel loses; but it will NOT the last if things continue as they have been. jordon will likely be next, and then perhaps egypt...although some european countries may actually come before it. but more and more will fall away as time passes. just like plants over the duration of an extended drought, the more sensitive wither and die first, then the next...until there's only a few remaining among the weeds. then they too will wither, leaving ONLY weeds. and it appears that process is beginning.

Even if Turkey does not realize it Israel is the "canary in the coal mine" when it comes to its EU relations. Granted, Europe is not the warmest friend of Israel but it will not tolerate a Turkey that is more criticizes Israel more than they do, out of fear that it stems from an Islamist slant that could attack them as well. If Turkey is fine being the odd man out, never part of Europe or the Arab world, that is its prerogative.

Let's stop deluding ourselves,and avoid any wishful thinking!When Hamas bombed and terrorized JEWISH CIVILIANS in SDEROT etc did Erdogan as much as lift a finger and protest?NO! Turkey has used Isr.to get technical military know-how,as well as wanting to APPEAR as an ally,so as to get USA military and financial aid, as well as a possible foothold into the European common market ! Let's remember what our overtures got us ,when we "courted" many of the African countries including IDDI AMIN of Uganda,and what the results were for us ,once the Arab OIL spigots were threatening them with closure! Moslem Turkey will ALWAYS turn their back on us, when it suits them!

party should be voted out immediately.He has already decided to break with the west and Israel and is courting Iran and Syria. The Turkish people will not become backward and unprogressive like Iran.this PM is a hypocrite and a terrible leader. Will the turkish people please please wake up and get rid of this Islamist party

Father of Turks - AtaTurk - spinning in his grave.

When is Turkey going to grant independents and exercise human rights to the Kurds. Also how about Turkey compensating the Armenians for the holocust of 1915 commited by Turkey. Should call for UN investigation

As was this extremist's embrace of the Sudanese regime

Do you really think there aren't European countries with large populations who aren't very upset with Israel? There are, but their governments are not bold enough to really say anything. Well, Sweden did recently, and it's not religious at all. Of course, Turks do sympathize with Palestinians who in some cases have old ties to Turkey and are of the same religion. Meanwhile, European nations are even afraid to strongly object when Israel deports a Palestinian Christian named Elias Khayyo from the Jerusalem he was born in simply because he ended up living in the US and getting residency there at one point.

I just wonder if Barak reads the news ??? We accepted to apologise to the Turks b/c Barak and Peres said it was the only way to keep Turkey as "friend". And now, we are rewarded with this new barking of Erdog. It's really time to wake up and to understand that Turkey is now our enemy

The consequence, perhaps, will be felt with increased support to the Kurds of Turkey. Israel, too, can play the game.

Israel should be firm in its stance and expel a country's ambassador when they twice ignore our concerns regarding incitement against Israel. Perhaps if we call their bluff, they'll be the ones running to apologize. Instead, Erdogan continues to threaten and incite as he has nothing to lose. By condoning his behavior, we are allowing him to continue his incitement and continue to radicalize his nation. We need to react in a sharp, decisive way so the true moderates in Turkey stop Erdogan from destroying our longstanding, mutually-beneficial relationship. Erdogan is putting his personal views ahead of the good of his country and we need to make that clear.

Mr Erdogan never has any criticism of the Hamas - not one word on rocketing civilians, bombing night clubs, kidnapping soldiers, a charter that is bent on destruction and leaves no room for peace. With friends like that -I say cut off relations or let them have it with no mincing words and when they demand an apology hit them even harder.And be prepared to cut diplomatic relations - its of no use. If they need unmanned drones let them buy it elsewhere because who knows which hands its going to end up with.

We don't have an ally there now, so what's the big deal? As it stands all Turkey wants to do now is push us to "make peace" with syria- meaning: give back the Golan. It's Turkey who stands to lose, because we are a major buyer of their goods. They need us more than we need them.

is under way for a long time . The obsession with respect of disrespectful , with honor of a dishonored is all a sign of a classic Islamic behavior . The constant talk of pride is meaningless , it has to be deserved , nobody is born with it .

Suddenly Turks became the biggest supporters of islamic terrorist states and organizations like hamas and Iran.Why they were hiding their feelings until now.Probably they were in need of Israely and US technology and now they don't need them anymore.

So Turkey can insult Israel but if some in the Israeli government respond, Turkey threatens to end the alliance. So again if Israel wants to defend itself, even verbally/politically they are told they can't. Sounds familiar everyone can attack Israel on any and all fronts, but Israel can't respond without being accused of being wrong. Turkey like the spoiled kid on the playground who can't gets it way, so it takes the ball and nobody can play. Like the spoiled brat they are, Israel should say, see ya! Turkey can dish it out but its gotten so they can't take it, what a bunch pansies.

NO, Mr. Erdogan, Israel does not want ties with an anti semite like you.

Israel chooses settlements and land theft over peace. The World has taken notice. Israel is transforming into a pariah nation.

france , armenia , kurdistan , israel , cyprus ! not bad for adays work !

Israel did not even admit officially Turkish responsibility for Armenian Holocaust in WWI. Payback time?

what we did to his ambasador is nothing compar tp what he did to our president still open his mouth

Lieberman is the last person to serve as foreign minister in any country. And Netanyahu is only marginally better than him. Israeli voters should denounce their cheap scare tactics and vote for rational and peaceful people in the next election. Because they're harming everybody in the region right now, including Israeli people.

was elected. How can you chastise an alley for protecting its citizens against 8000 rockets. How can you allow blatant anti-Israeli antisemitic programing including the fabrication of new phony blood libels. These are the actions that characterize Turkey current government. So what is left of an alliance. Less than nothing.

It looks like this is just a start. The longer Bibi and his FM stay in power, the more allies Israel loses.

Israel has total support of united states congress.

and we made this choice bycreating a siyuation where the only coalition possible was Bibi, Liberman, Shas etc. We have heard the results every single day since the establishment of this government. we have lost most of our support all over the world and what is rest is starting to go away and we'll find ourselves very soon naked and alone. THANKS A LOT BIBI, YOU REALY MADE THE BEST YOU CAN TO DESTROY US AND YOU SUCCEED.

I am a Turkish citizen. Although I live far from my home country, I know Turkish people are extremely unhappy with this PM who discredits us with every word that comes out of his mouth. Jews and Turks have a longlasting friendship and this shouldnèt be ruined because of a few crazymen.

How is Turkey our ally? Are we that gullible?

Israel is rapidly losing what few friends it has. If it continues to ignore the advice of Obama, the EU, and indeed the rest of the world, it might very well lose the US as an ally. Then whose shoulder will they cry on?

Erdogan has aligned himself with Assad and Adjimidad. To a degree I blame Obama, Russia and the EU for not statnding up to Iran.

The Israeli government seems to be split between those who feel that Turkey is already a lost cause and so we may as well salvage our national honor (Lieberman), and those who feel that there's still enough there that it's worth swallowing our pride to maintain it (Barak). I don't know where I stand, but am starting to lean towards the former.

Playing the Leftist cards won't help Erdogan Islamist Gov't to obtain membership in EEU . exploiting the arabpal issue against Israel won't buy Erdogan Islamist Gov't EEU membership The lefty UK. Guardian media group will keep on portraying him as courageous peacefull Islamist heroe at the head of a reasonable and moderate Islamist gov't . Meanwhile Erdogan Islamist Gov't is using the Mullahtocracy intimidations tactics to silence opponents and grab more votes and power posts in Turkia . Israel should distance itself from such Erdogan Islamist Gov't till Turkia citizens oust these radical Islamists from Turkia Gov't .

Shalom I see that our freindship Israel should save Awonderful relationships with Turky in best matter

gans Napoleon complex . Europe will do wonderfully without Turkey ,no reason to suppose Israel won't

If Israel continues to ignore the International Declaration of Human Rights, the only ally they will have left worldwide is the USA.

Israel was never sincere in friendship to anyone, including (especially?) the USA. When the time is right, Israel will stab Turkey in the back.

Israels treatment of the Ambassador from Turkey was amateurish at best and seen has showing Leibermans et al lack of abilities....However Erdogans attack on Peres in Davos last year was just the surface od showing his antagonism toward Israel and that was pre-Bibi

How many errors and misjudgements can Israel endure before it realizes there is a diverse world of peoples and nations that have value? This realization should begin with Palestinians, the Arabs and the Muslims. Isolation breeds contempt, fear and distrust. Is it possible for Israel to have courageous leaders that do not exploit fears?

"... now we see Benjamin Netanyahu saying: 'I do not trust Erdogan, but I trust Sarkozy'. Do you have to give a name? This is diplomatic inexperience, too." Perhaps so, but nations have mutual interests which should supersede and outlast any feelings of personal affront, which Erdogan clearly has. And so, one must question whether Erdogan, who is threatening to end Turkey's special relationship with Israel, might do so strictly out of personal pique. His brand of 'diplomacy' appears no better than Netanyahu's. Indeed, it seems far worse in its peevishness and short-sightedness. MV

Erdogan is right that Turkey under his leadership no longer needs a close relationship with Israel, now that he has a close relationship with Ahmadinejad. He is leading Turkey away from Secularism and towards Islamic Radical Fundamentalists, joining them in anti Israel and anti Semitic actions.

....to foster Israel-Syria relations,I wouldn't want to see the worst.Turkey has been completely ineffective in improving things.Indeed,by his constant criticism of Israel he's probably encouraged the Syrian government in its inflexibility. This is a matter in which the Turkish army might have the louder voice and put Israel before Erdogan. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

As a Jew that does business in Turkey I know the secularist military take a very different view to PM Erdogan, who has been empowered with EU instistence to curb the powers of the military defending the secularist constitution. These actions are terribly damaging and alienating and could turn the regions most powerful militiary force, and once colonial ruler, against Israel, back in its pre-Ataturk form. Everyone needs to be treated with respect and dignity and diplomats need to agree to disagree otherwise they are doing a misservice to all that support good relations.

It is Israel that became "Officially"Fundementalist when Netanyahu chose Lieberman as his FM. One can hardly expect a former nightclub bouncer to possess the necessary intelligence that is required to carry out the post of a diplomat. This guy is a blessing to Palestinians and Hamas in particular. I think Hamas should sue him for doing their job.Take him to a labour court before he destroys israel single handedly and they will never get a piece of that action.

Every rational person knows that the Turkish Islamists have been against Israel long before they took Turkey over.

yes lieberman recall all your envoy because in few years the usa wont have cash to support your country. the debt of usa to china is growing bigger nad the support tha israel is gettin is 25% of what they used to get... lieberman is not jewish in a converted to immigrate to israel.

Why is Turkey so aggressive in being a peace mediator for Syria & Israel? I cannot fathom why he is forcing the issue. When he is ignored, he brings up old isues that has been buried & starts accusing Israel for "brutely killing" 'innocent civilians' during the Cast Lead war in Gaza one year ago. Then he claims Israeli Ministers do not talk diplomaticly. These people like to say whatever they feel like but no one else could tell them as it is. This is typical with ALL nations that conducts terror activities. Arabs as a whole are good & family oriented people.

having Israel aas a friend. In practical terms, it is to Israel's benefit. It would no longer have to compromise its policies to please Turkey. And it certainly can now go public with the knowledge that Iran is shipping arms to Hizbollah through Turkey, and through Turkey to Syria and finally to Hizbollah.

It is very clear that Israel is not going to compromise its security for the sake of pleasing Erdogan who seems to have taken the failure of Turksh mediation in a very personal manner and is retaliating by making insulting remarks against Israel.I wonder whether he has calculated this he is gaining political capital out of his repeated hectoring but soon everybody is going to realise that he is full of talk and no action which will work against him.I think he is making a political gamble and sooner or later the tide will turn against him.

You are very short sighted and your rule will either put your people in peril as Western Countries will start to help the Greeks, Armenians and everyone else that your country has attacked with indescriminate killings. iran has already laid claim as the strongest musli country in the ME and you will have to give up your country to IRAN like Syria and lebanon. You have painted yourself as a FOLLOWER OF muslim FANATICS and becoming killers of TRUE MUSLIMS Shame Shame Shame to put your self before your PEOPLES of DEMOCRACY and want to LIVE IN PEACE

Israel lost Turkey as Turkey lost Turkey to the fundamentalists.

where turkey is heading....netanyahu by specifically naming erdogan did it for good reason. turkey's islamists clearly want a deterioration and will find excuses.... turkey will be a major problem for israel and the west in the future. a very big shame but islamism and peaceful relations with non muslims do not go together.

and who will be the looser here . Most of Nato troops/boots on the ground are Turkish infantry( over 2 million of them). Nato depends on Turkey for many operations where manpower is needed. Nato must choose them between Israel and Turkey...

Doesn't make sense. Why should Turkey help Israel make peace with its arab neighbours if Turks themselves are at war with their Kurdish minority? Arabs have 22 countries, two in Palestine, Jordan and Gaza. Kurds have none. Their country is under Turkish, Iranian, arab syrian and arab iraqui occupation. Who is Turkey to tell Israel how to deal with its enemies? Should Israel try to kill all the arabs (250 million) like Turkey did to the Armeninans, when they slaughtered a million of them? Or should Israel deal with the palestinian arabs like Turkey is dealing with the Kurds, killing thousands of them?

Israel can look to the recent past to examine what life is like without Turkey as an ally. Ultimately, in the heart of hearts of all thinking people, there was a realization that if the Islamists took control, one could forget fairness, rationality and balance. In its place has come delusion and tribablism. Well done Erdogan... but you are the Pres and that, in addition to a nutty expectation of afteralife, is all that matters.

year after year indiscriminate bombing(projectiles) of civilian targets in Israel. This stunt by Erdogan underscores to tie Israel's hands so they would not be able to defend themselves. I never heard him mentioning hamas for attrocities and hiding behind women and children and shooting from schooles and hospitals using ambulances to transport ammunition and terrorists..Turkey also should thing very carefully future without Israel as ally. He forgot that stick has 2 ends

Mister Erdogan was doing right in criticism of Israel acting against Palastie in the past in in the presence. Turkey is a much better Partner and friend in the future for Israel than the USA and EU together. Mister Erdogan is interesting in the fullfilness of our Prophecy as well as i am. It's me, so what are you fearing Israel, when Bar Nafli is the same Person as Mahdi. Insted of weapon business with Germany, you should force cooperation's with Turkey. I don't fear the pope or Obama. So should you do. But all other States like Libanon Syria Jordanien and Egypt are direct Neighbours. We have to become brothers and sisters in the middle east !!!!

But it's OK to terrorise 500,000 Jews in Sderot for 8 years and it is a crime for the Jews to defend themselves. Erdogan is no friend.

there is a great reason not to trust Turkey again, wake up, government!!!

A good case of the pot calling the kettle black! If there is someone without diplomatic inexperience it is Erdogan himself. Just remember his shameful outbursts in Davos, and all the other tactless statements against Israel. He's got nerve to call Bibi inexperienced.

no one trusts YOU. Turkey has been begging for EU membership since the early 1960s to no avail, whilst in the meantime 21 new member states were admitted. Given Turkey's ill treatment of the Kurds and its constant denial of the Armenian holocaust in 1915, may I suggest that you refrain from teaching others lessons in matters of human rights and start by doing your home work in Turkey.

These are the same people who liquidated the Armenian people...why trust them? They will only do what is in their best interest...However, part of the blame must be placed on Obama's lack of policy in the ME and Europe by ignoring relations with Turkey and letting them fall into the extremist camp...

THOSE WHO BLESS YOU WILL BE BLESSED THOSE WHO CURSE YOU WILL BE CURSED.

With friends like Turkey, who needs enemies? Erdogan is the one who has ruined the relationship and under his "leadership" Turkey will never be the bridge between East and West that they so aspire to be.

The way the turkish prime minster talking about israel & the role Turkey is ready to play for peace with syria; seems like Erdogan wants to be paid in advance for services that wasn't yet rendered ! Erdogan is unhappy about israel relation with its neighbors ! But, all Israel neighbors are the Arab World ! What Israel is supposed to do to make its neighbors happy; when those neighbors wants only to see the back of Israel ? Pack up & go and leave the keys with Erdogan ?! Or is Erdogan making all these noises so his voice will be heard on the world stage ?! Turkey's lost its importance on the world stage when the cold war came to an end. Its strategic importance collapses with the end of the USSR. Peace with Syria was tried before by countries of more influence than Turkey & nothing happened !

for good....or unless a viable Pal state is created. Isolate Israel.

Turkey's PM and his problematic actions should not blind Israel to the utmost importance of keeping Turkey as an ally. Erdogan's sympathies are clearly with his fellow Moslems but at the same time he is not abrogating any significant contacts with Israel. He is playing a dance with the Turkish secular elites, and Israel should be careful not to antagonize any of the parties. Political instability in Turkey will only result in the disappearnce of an important ally or at worst the emergence of another belligerent power in the region. Netanyahu and more so Lieberman should act more intelligently.

I think a lot of Jews would agree there is a problem between the Israelis and Palestinians that hopefully can be solved. Turkey has problems with its minorities. I have to mention to Turkey that my Turkish Jewish friends left Turkey in 1973, at a time when Turkish nationalism was taking over foreign institutions and thousands of minorities left Turkey. Has this Turkish nationalism cost Turkey goodwill and friendship in the world? What is happening to the Kurds in Turkey is bad also and needs to be solved. I welcome and wish Turkey good luck in any initiative to improve minority rights in Turkey for Jews, Christians and any others. There are only a handful left, but Turkey could start to repair the damage done to minorities. Danny Ayalon also has the chutzpah to be for the Armenians I found out.

A drunken, confused, contradictory Golem between Islamism and Europe, between modernity and the Middle Ages, between OTAN and Iran. It is more worthwhile for Turkey to ponder what it wants. Israel knows a bit better what it wants and where it wants to go in terms of alliances.

One day Turkey speaks of maintaining a good relationship with Israel. The next day these comments come out the mouth of Turkey's Prime Minister. Who's running this country?

permanently and Israel must now plan and calculate accordingly. Turkey is also prophesied as an enemy in the upcoming Russia,Iran ,and turkey invasion of Israel. Turkey is referred to in the biblical account in Ezekiel as "Tubal" . God is signaling to Israel that it must not depend on other nations and must rely on God which it will not, hence the upcoming invasion where God wipes out Israel's adversaries.

To paraphrase Erdogan, we should mull the future without Turkey, period. Erdogan speaks of human rights. Imagine how much better it would be for Israel and the West, and for the indigenous peoples of the middle east with a large Kurdistan composed of much of Eastern Turkey and the other places they are majorities, Northern Iraq, parts of Syria & Iran. And a larger Armenia made from Armenia plus the parts of Turkey where they were slaughtered. And we should give land to the Druze, so that together with areas of Lebanon and Syria they can have a country, and make this region into a much more normal one. All these nations have been dominated and pressed andit is time they have a country of their own. International opinion should be made aware of the potential in this remaking of the Middle East, to turn the tide on the Arab conquest in general, and the Islamic fundamentalist wave overwhelming Turkey, and to give sovereignty to all those ancient nations ruled by others for so long.

Turkey made their choice; Iran. No need to pursue this any further. Cancel whatever's outstanding on the UAV deal that Erdogan said was the original reason, and move on from there. If Turkey decides to expel all Turkish Jews, well, I can't say as I would be shocked. I'm sure he will declare them all Zionist spies soon anyhow.

This is not a surprise when a official of Turkey speak warm words about Hamas and iranian islamo-fashists terrorists and then suddenly turn around and start threatening Israel about it's actions.How would you call someone who support a islamic terrorists?Terrorist.

Turkey should do its best to put pressure on Israel to end its occupation, stop violating international law, and respect human rights law. Turkey is a member of NATO, and they can have a great influence. Lets start by BDS, BOYCOTT, DINVEST, SANCTIONS. PALESTINE People want to live in PEACE, FREEDOM, JUSTICE, INDEPENDENCE. While ISRAEL wants only the first term, PEACE. If Israel wants peace, they should end occupation, and give palestinians their rights and their lands. It is Israeli people choice, as this government is a HOPELESS case.

Turkey has an Islamist government, and if it weren'tfor Turkey's desire to find favor in the eyes of the EU, NATO and the US, and for its dependence on Israeli weapons and their maintenance, Erdogasn moght havebroken off relations with us a long time ago.

Imagine if China or Vietnam refused to talk to America because of "racist" depictions of Vietnamese and Chinese people in private US cinema. What's more of a joke is that I'm sure there's plenty of Israeli media that is deeply racist towards Arabs and Muslim peoples in general.

If we can't trust Turkey to have a decent Muslim Jewish relationship, how the hell can we trust Paalestinians?

The ambassador story is only a reaction of Erdogans provocation that happend prior to this. Loosing a friend? Who does he exaclty mean? The turks have lost already..They steps to the arab side comes after the europeans didn't wanted them. So we should be not surpriced about what happend. Turkey was a friend of israel in order to join the west. Everything interests. After not beeing welcomed in europe, they try it with the Arabs. Good luck with that!

With an allie like turkey,Israel needs no more enemies...Talking about doublefaced sneaks...The only allie Israel has nowadays in the Middle East is Egypt,because Mubarak knows he's in the same boat as Israel...

it is time Israel calls their bluff instead of continuously placating them.