Think tank: U.S. would sideline Israel in Iran nuclear dispute
Simulation predicts Israeli raid on Iran's heavy water plant would shake Obama's insistence on dialogue.
By Reuters Tags: Benjamin Netanyahu Barack Obama Iran nuclear Israel newsIsrael will find itself diplomatically sidelined and militarily muzzled as the United States pursues a nuclear deal with Iran next year, according to a closed-door wargame at Israel's top strategic think tank.
Not even a warning shot by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - the simulation featured an undeclared Israeli commando raid on Iran's Arak heavy water plant - would shake U.S. President Barack Obamas's insistence on dialogue.
Israel's arch-foe, meanwhile, will likely keep enriching uranium, perhaps even winning the grudging assent of the West.
"The Iranians came out feeling better than the Americans, as they were simply more determined to stick to their objectives," said Giora Eiland, a former Israeli national security adviser who played Netanyahu in the Nov. 1 wargame at Tel Aviv University's Institute for National Security Studies (INSS).
Reflecting Israel's relative isolation, Eiland and his team spent much of the simulation sequestered from the multilateral talks in the snug, three-storey INSS building.
"Netanyahu" did have hallway encounters with President Barack Obama -- played by Zvi Rafiah, an Israeli ex-diplomat with extensive U.S. ties. But their chats were hasty and hazy.
"Our leverage over the Americans, when we could prise them away from the Iranians and Europeans and others, was limited," Eiland told Reuters. "Pretty much the only card we had to play was the military action card. And that's a faded card."
Assumed to have the region's sole atomic arsenal, Israel has hinted at preemptive air strikes as a last resort for denying Iran the means to make a bomb. But many experts believe Israel would be tactically stymied and loath to cross Washington, which is wary of unleashing a fresh Middle East conflict.
"I care about Israel. I must defend Israel. But Israel cannot act unilaterally," said Rafiah, channelling Obama.
Balking and Brinkmanship
The simulation -- in which several serving Israeli officials took part on condition their names would not be made public -- was run by Emily Landau, a senior INSS policy expert. Reuters obtained a first look at the conclusions after they were passed to the Netanyahu government.
"The idea was to create a situation whereby the Americans try a new, bilateral approach to Iran -- both in terms of curbing its nuclear project and finding a way of satisfying its other demands," said Landau, who sees little future for UN Security Council sanctions given Russian and Chinese balking.
An Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman said the wargame results would be incorporated in internal strategic assessments. Such papers are not generally shared with the United States.
As it happened, the wargamers hunkered down in long-set stances: Iran entertaining negotiations while refusing to give up nuclear projects it says are peaceful; the United States talking tough but avoiding outright threats; and Israel fuming.
Aharon Zeevi-Farkash, a former chief of Israel's military intelligence who played Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, envisaged Tehran staying on its nuclear track "unless facing a threat to the survival of the regime".
"That just wasn't forthcoming from the Americans or their coalition," Zeevi-Farkash said, adding that "Obama" should have buttressed negotiations by boosting the U.S. naval deployment in the Gulf or persuading India to slash its business ties to Iran.
According to Zeevi-Farkash, Iran would be unlikely to launch a nuclear attack on Israel, preferring to use such weaponry to protect against invasion and wield regional clout. As such, a preemptive Israeli strike could spur Iran to get the bomb.
"Iran would argue that it was the victim of international aggression, and appeal for foreign understanding," he said, adding that, as Khamenei, he had kept open communications with other world powers while negotiating with the United States.
The simulation saw brief brinkmanship after the imagined Israeli sabotage at Arak. "Khamenei" responded by dispatching a Revolutionary Guards commander to Syria and Venezuela, flaunting Iranian influence near the Israeli and U.S. orbits.
To the dismay of "Netanyahu", "Obama" did not answer this with force, though he did extend security guarantees to Israel.
Eiland said the simulation pointed to an eventual U.S.-led shift to a policy of allowing Iran to continue enriching uranium and of "containment" should Iran eventually gain nuclear arms.
Israel would have to go along with its U.S. ally, Eiland said: "Israel cannot act alone here. An American-Iranian deal would divest Israel of the ability to attack Iran."
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Former national security adviser Giora Eiland. |
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There is no government on earth that can change the will of G-d and His love for His own chosen. Relax, enjoy the show, the stage and all its actors are hand chosen for this time by the G-d of Israel. No one trumps the expressed will of G-d. Watch and see for yourself. Israel cannot and will not fail even w/ Obama.
When mahamads exortations to kill Jews are irrevocably removed from the koran for all time - then Jews can negotiate with islam. They will never be removed - they cant be removed. islam divides the world into two - the world of islam and the world of war. Jews live in the world of war as do Christians and all non muslims. Read the koran and the hadiths and see for yourselves - there is no peace with islam. Know this and make your plans accordingly.
However uncomfortable for some this is to read- the whole thing seems plausible. So yes in the current state of affairs this is a likely play out of the scenario with Iran. Thanks for the article and info.
Israel has been on its own since the moment that Barack was sworn in. Obama was naive enough to think that a kinder, gentler America would fix our problems with our angry enemies. He did not understand the Terminator aspect of radical Islamics-- particularly Ajad. Talks are useless. Ajad really believes that Iran is invincible. He may very well attack the U.S or Iraq Iran may stockpile a few nukes, then export nukes and missiles to Venezuela or Hamas and Hezbollah. Giving them to Chavez will provide the U.S. with another dilemna. And don't expect Israel to give a warning shot. My guess: Obama will talk until millions die!
Israel will not strike the Iranian facilities, as tempting as it is. The Middle East the day after the strike would be even more inhospitable to Israel than it would be with a nuclear-armed Iran. No Israeli government would risk so many Israeli lives for strategic gains.
The war game needs to be seen in a wider context. Israel govt. can pressure Iran by squeezing the proxies - Gaza/Hamas and Hizbula/Lebanon-Syria. Israeli govt. needs to neutralize retaliatory powers in Gaza and Lebanon-Syria. This pressure will make Iran more nervous about a strike and strengthen strategic options of Israel govt. Sever pressure on Hamas/Gaza will allow Israel to push on US to get to Iran. Road to victory over Iran, and cor US cooperation, goes through Gaza and Lebanon-Syria
It is coming. This is inevitable. America will fall. Russia will fall. China will fall. Europe will fall. The Islamic World will fall. We need to make sure that when the dust settles and the modern world is in ruins, we are still here.
Nope. And you don't see North Korea attacking other countries nor making daily threats to attack another sovereign state, one that I might add is a signatory to the NNPT.
...my goodness where do you folks come up with this stuff?
...when I went to school we did nuclear attack drills, were trained in where the fallout shelters were, and what to expect when we entered them - because we entered them. Israel wants to be a colonial power, expect to be treated as a colonial power. Iran is absolutely no threat to Israel and Israel's leaders know it, but it ratchets up the fear factor in people like you and keep the terror, Terror, TERROR factor going the better to hide things like the Goldstone Report and the five hundred thousand illegal colonists. Y'all made this bed, sleep in it.
If Israel decides that it needs to attack Iran, it will, regardless of what Obama says, and he might tell Israel to back off Iran. Obama doesn't want to use force ever and is trying to get out of both Iraq and Afghanistan. He would have given up Afghanistan, except there was strong national support for that war. Obama believes that he can sweet talk anyone into supporting his view. He can't understand if someone doesn't accept his view. Iran doesn't accept his view. Obama can live with a nuclear armed Iran.
hi pierre.always liked the name from war and peace. settlements are on jewish land.bet el and hebron are jewish.you will not agree but that cannot be helped. re comparisons with iran.obviously we disagree. i do not expect norwegians to side with us.jews were not allowed into norway wntil the 1850s. thanks for your input.
The issue is not the U.S. The issue is the Obama AntiSemite administration. Israel cannot and must not depend on the Obama AntiSemite administration for support over anything including on Iran nuke dispute. Israel has to go directly to the American people through Congress and the Republican Party and Judeo-Christians for support. Israel should not waste its time dealing with the Obama administration.
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The US is not worried about Iran, or their counter measures to an Israeli attack. All of Iran's resources are known, and defense measures have been readied. What we don't know, is how China will react once their oil flow from Iran has stopped. Of course the US will assist in defending Israel from the Iranian response. The whole world knows this, too. What's happening now is, all the countries involved, and their media outlets are to act as though we are trying to "restrain" Israel. All this propaganda is clearly to make it appear to the world that Israel acted unilatterally. This is all political theater -- a media drama, simply designed to manipulate world opinion. Isreal will attack Iran's nukes, and the US will be right there, and have been the entire time. We apparently just want it to look as though we were not involved in Israel's decision to attack Iran's nuclear facilities.
# 3,not so hypothetical. "NObody else but Israel cares really about a Jewish state per se.on the contrary.They all see Jewish state as contaminators of their riligion and want Jewish state out not in" a) What religion are you talking about ? Is it that Stinking Religion that sent over SIX million,Jewish people.The cream of Europe into the furnaces ? All of Europe took part in the this animal brutality. b)Our great leaders had the foresight,courage & determination to supply Israel with a mighty deterrent force,which at present,is dormant. But, if anyone,no matter from which quarter may even dream of a repeat of what had happened in WWII He Should heed the words that Golda Meir spoke to Presedent Nixon: "This time We'll hold hands with the world" I presume,you're not a foolish person,and you know exactly what Golda meant !
The major discrepancy resultant of negotiating with the Mideast = They Don't Think The Way We Think. A Jewish friend of mine once said, "The biggest and oldest mafia of them all is the Jewish mafia." And corruption is manhood, to Iran. It's also appropriate for them to flaunt the West's regulations; for their (version of) God is the only "one that's right." The lazy-theology of Jihad will have I'madinnerjacket [as Whoopi Goldberg called Ahmadinejad] reclining on a celestial couch with a pack of virgins (he'll have "earned" 'em) if he Does get blown up, for having nuked Israel (whereas, his Israeli blood-cousins will merely be negated eternally...Of course); so why should he listen to the provisos of the West (who, un-democratically, have Not demanded nuclear disclosure from the hoodlums in Israel), when he's working for the main bugbear - Khomeini - who assures him that Iran is In on God's Plan. LET THEM think these outcomes; if they blow themselves up, we can be at peace.
We simply do not care if North Korea has the bomb it will bring long needed balance to the US.Call it a by-product of the US aggression. The world will be much quieter and safer place without the Yankees wars,and regim changes.
Cold War. People lived in constant fear and terror and this is what you want people to return to? You want the whole world to return to this fear because of the internal policies of 1 country? Now let's assess Iran and your Claim: By your post, you are stating that Iran has a right to a nuclear device in a round about defense of 3rd party argument correct? It is actually the only nearly valid argument you could pose, why? Has Israel ever attacked Iran? No, not once, has Iran ever attacked Israel? Yes, it destroyed an Embassy in Argentina. Did Israel declare war back? No, So what fears, does a non nuclear armed Iran have from Israel? None. Retore Balance to the region? What Balance is Needed ISRAEL AND IRAN HAVE NOT ENGAGED IN WAR, IRAN HAS ATTACKED ISRAEL AND ISRAEL TURNED THE OTHER CHEEK, WHAT BALANCE DO YOU SPEAK OF? UNLESS.., TBC
BBS NEWS You are ridiculous, YOU ACTUALLY MAKE LITTLE SENSE, I will go into detail on your post in another posting, but just stop for a second and consider your position. If possible remove yourself from this conflict and put yourself as a citizen of the world, one who has an interest in bringing up a family, growing old and watching your grandchildren, I say this because if life is of no value to you than sure let everyone have nuclear bombs. BBS NEWS, YOU WANT BILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO LIVE IN FEAR FOR WHAT? WHAT HAVE THESE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE DONE TO YOU? MAYBE A FEW HAVE WRONGED YOU, BUT THERE IS NO ARGUMENT TO SAY ALL HAVE. SO WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT MANY PEOPLE TO LIVE IN FEAR? MY G-D MAN, you should consider seeing a shrink to discuss these anger issues of yours.
# 46 PORTNOY. "Israel will attack Iran by 12/31/09" NONSENSE ! 1) You write the date like the Americans.Why can't you say from which country u r frm ? 2)Israel will not attack.Not on this date nor another. It will do so only in the most extreme case. 3) By the way Europe shouldn't be so complacent !
Would Arab States okay Israel warplanes to use their airspace ? Would Arab States okay Israel the use of their deserts to also take down Iran revolutionary guard headquaters and more ?
Iran will handily survive and it will be the end, forever, of Israel. At this point, it would be no loss and a boon for fighting world terrorism.
...folks like you, before opening their mouths or typing, really should learned the difference between Israel and the Zionist regime. They are two different things. Iran has never threatened to "wipe Israel off the map" that is a lie debunked so many times I am surprised to see anyone ignorant enough to still use it. Even if Iran had a nuke this second, they would still not use it on Israel, that would be suicide. And after all, they have conventional weapons *right now* that could wipe out Israel. The fact that they have not, is conclusive proof that Iran is not about to attack Iran. One the other hand... Israel actually does, on a daily basis, OFFICIALLY claim to be at any moment ready to launch an attack on Iran. Under the Bush Doctrine, Iran has every right to stop Israel in its tracks, as Israel poses a clear and imminent threat against Iran, not the other way around. Iranians are not insane. Israelis? Quite the opposite...
...it will bring long needed balance to the region. Call it a by-product of AIPAC. They stand in the way of peace, so what better way to get around them but to let the Iranians make the peace? The world is already well aware that there is a huge difference between Israel, and the Zionist regime. The world will be a much quieter and safer place without the Zionist regime, normal Israelis will even be quite relieved after the extremists are completely and effectively marginalized by good old fashioned MAD... There was a much easier way but hey, Israel just kept on making war and stealing land and resources that did not belong to them. And there is other news but every Israeli outlet is suppressing it and keeping that news from the Israelis. Even though out here in the real world we are well aware of the latest bad news about Israel's behavior... Happy censorship Israel!
WHY WAIT? THIS ARTICLE IS CORRECT AND THERE IS A WIDE BELIEF IN ISRAEL THAT A POINTED, SINGLE ATACK DESIGNED TO ADD YEARS ON TO IRANS' EFFORTS WOULD NOT BE ANSWERED. IT IS UP TO ISRAEL. FORGET ABOUT THE USA FOR THE NEXT 4 PERHAPS 8 YEARS.
..it has proved to be a total disaster for the Israeli people. They thought they were on a new road to a better life. Instead they discover they're being ruled by a brutal medieval regime of religious fanatics. Israel put itself in the hands of the rabid rabbis and wild eyed settlers who raped the West Bank, quite literally....
Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map. Iran is enriching uranium there is no other way to wipe anyone off any map with out a nuke. Hitler made threats and carried them out. Give me one reason to believe the Persians would not?
For almost over 1 year now we have heard the Obama plan. which I must say I was hopefull of at first. It is a better idea to ask questions first and pull triggers as a last resort. But everyday that goes by with Obama showing weakness, while Iran does nothing for building the confidence of the world that it isn't pursuing nuclear weapons, is a risky day. What is Obama's plan if one day Iran says, well, we lied, but we are finished we have a small but effective arsneal, too bad. Imagine Israel dictating US policy during the Cuban Missle Crisis. Israel has be fair and given Obama a chance to try his talk approach, but it clearly isn't working, so perhaps Obama will atleast advise what his plans are should his talk approach hit the deadline, Is he going to continue with it? and if so what are the terms of the continuance is there a new deadline or terms?
fascinating, as the world watches the Israel theocracy self-destruct from the lack-of-will to control its own internal 5th column: the Haredim & Co.
the quickest way to put a real hurt on this evil empire would be to stop buying oil from Iran. It is the oil money that is helping to fund its nuclear build-up. So turn the spicket OFF, and you turn the Nuclear Ambissions off.
"Work at making peace with your neighbours, and them with you." Have you read the Hamas charter? Hamas (like most of the Muslim world) put a claim on the whole area and want to kill all the Jews - so what would be a viable compromise for you?
May I invite you to come and live in Israel for solidarity reasons, now that you encourage an Israeli first strike on Iran's neuclear sites. You advocate total destruction of the region, just to please your ego. Hate Hate to others. What a lover of the Jewish people, let alone the rest of the populations.
Israel...do not worry about iran...in 3 years the USA will have a new president...a statesman named Mitt Romney...he will coordinate a full scale invasion of iran with you and a complete dismantaling of the iranian regime and its nascent nuclear program...lshana tova...
You are of course referring to the 1st Gulf War when we "sat on our hands" whilst Iraqi scuds rained down and destroyed areas in ISRAEL. ARE YOU MAD WOMAN? We learned from you people; "Do unto others" Only do it fast......BEFORE they do it to you. We JEWS have learned a lesson from those of you who would wish to see us gone. We do NOT turn the other cheek anymore when struck. NO we hit back HARD. NEVER AGAIN nuttily. NEVER!!
According to Zeevi-Farkash, former chief of Israel's military intelligence. Still what would he know, the real experts are on talk back. You've got Peter Williams who says no one can predict anything so [so lets attack anyway!]and JfromC who anticipates dozens of so called accidents at sights all over Iran, even the ones Israel doesn't know about.[he neglects to mention that on today's Haaretz even Shalit's whereabouts are unknown, yet assumes Israel has a complete picture of what goes down in Iran].
it has proved to be a total disaster for the iranian people.they thought they were on a new road to a better life.instead they have been ruled by a brutal medieval regime. iran put itself in the hands of the mullahs who raped the nation.almsot literally .
there will be no american attack on iran.america has lost confidence in its armed forces and in its ability to pursue political aims through war.
I do not believe for one second Iran has the intention to attack Israel. It has nothing to gain from this. All the talk from their crazy leader is total sabre-rattling. Israel has the ability to wipe out the whole of the Middle East, if it were to have to respond to an attack. The main reason Iran wants the bomb is to make it THE dominant Muslim power in the Middle East. They want to take the spiritual leadership of the Muslim world away from the Saudis, who they see as heretics. Israel needs to focus on getting a fair two-state solution. Work at making peace with your neighbours, and them with you. To tell you the truth, I prefer Iran as Muslim world leader compared to the fanatical regime that will take over Saudi when the royal family falls.
If there is no attack on Israel, what does it matter? It's not like Israel cares about Iraq or the rest of the Gulf states or Afghanistan or Pakistan or India.
The outcomes are largely predetermined by the rules of engagement set by the moderator. Nobody can predict what anyone is going to do.
if iran is allowed to go ahead with its program it will do what it says wipe out israel no one belived hitler back then till it was to late and 6 million jews were killed why dont we learn from the past he will use the bomb he means what he says to wipe out israel why are we waiting because of what the world thinks i pray the leaders of israel have the back bone to do what it needs to do
made so many mistakes giving legitimacy to US enemies like Syria and Iran and Obama's incompetence has brought lebanon on its knees to Syria. Obama has turned back the good in US foreign policy and has given dictators and terrorists center stage and power. This analysis is wrong as Israel will not stand by and let a temporary and inexperienced US president decide their fate. Obama is helping Iran and dictators oppress their people and destroy American influence. Obama like Carter will lose the next election. Israel will not follow Iran who is showing its hands
I think it's not just the 'current regime', but ANY Iranian regime would pursue the same strategy re nukes. As the war games showed, they see it as the only thing that will prevent an eventual invasion. Nukes would also allow them to continue expressing their views on ME issues freely. Iran would NEVER attack Israel. This isn't something Israel ever feared. They just don't like to have a strong Iran expressing its views on Palestinian issues.
What did you expect, nothing new under the sun. Look a the worlod action before the second world war and at the worlds history.
YOU have it exactly right. Not sure how your post got through, they kill mine everytime. Amen to you brother.
Why do people expect an air stike on Iran when that is the last thing that will be? There is no need to send rockets either and for sure no planes are needed to put a dot on Iran's ambitions. My guess is an interesting "accident" in Iran's plants and the the whole area is "kaput" for the next few decades....Do what they do not expect if you wish to win a war,not what cannot be done at all,like bombings....Laughable contemplations here....appear weak and they think you are weak,but do what they do not expect and you laugh all the way to a nuclear manure pile, that is Iran after the "accident". The fact that they have plants all over would just work to the Israelis favour as if you contaminate only part of the area, the whole is also shut down....So, soon look for and unusual event there....while the Israeli planes fly a sortie over Gaza....One has to love the Jews as when it matters they know how to win a war...Obama and Carter will be very, very surrised in the end.so will the Ruskies.
If Iran is allow to keep it reactors then both Israel and Arab countries more likely to make peace deal, since a threat to both. Iraq is going to be a wildcard in 5 to 10yrs but civil war likely if it tries to takes a side.
he will be the equivalent of a lame duck president. Israel need to plan accordingly concerning Iran. Any attack on Iran is going to draw the U.S. into the game. Israel just needs to make sure that the blow they give Iran is devastating. If ever there was a case for use of tactical nuclear weapons this is it. Conventional weapons used alone by Israel will not get the job done. On the other hand , Israel just does not have the leadership. Bibi and Barak are as useless as Olmert.
Israel has made a gigantic mess and now the international community must clean it up. To be fair, the international community must share in the blame for allowing Israel to go unsupervised for so many years. America has a special burden of guilt. Now America must have Israel sit on their hands, as they did during the Iraq war so that Israel doesn't make a much bigger mess while the cleanup effort is underway.
To safegaurd Israel in the face of an existential threat, is both criminal and insane. Heaven forbid!
we keep hearing the same story for as long as I can remember.If Israel had anything planned they would have done it the same way they did it with Iraqi nuclear plant without letting the whole world know about it in advance so it looks like it is just a polotical game
the frustration of #3/no so hypothetical is keenly felt and shared! It's the lack of ingenuity and willingness to take risks that makes one feel as though Israel is slowly sinking. It was the very qualities of ingenuity and risk-taking that not only earned Israel the respect of the world and necessary fear of the arabs, but the lack of these has worked to encourage hostile moslems and feed their hope of someday destroying the Jewish state. What could Obama and his ilk possibly offer Israel? He has no experience. He's never been to Israel before. Where is he to get the necessary understanding or feeling for her predicament? From lib/self-loathing Jews on his team? Sometime, in the not-so-distant future, Israel will be struck with nukes. It has to be. Just as hamas et. al. have boosted their missile capacity, so they will acquire a nuke. Bet on it.
Why not lead by example? If you want Iran to submit to IAEA inspections and monitoring, why shouldn't Israel admit it has a bomb and undergo the same regimen demanded of Iran? Israel freely attacks its neighbors, and has won every conflict it has ever entered, even if some have backfired, producing the likes of Hizbollah and Hamas. There's no defending Iran's nutball leader, he's hardly a giant among men from any perspective and after stealing an election his standing as an elected official is in serious doubt. Still, Iran has a long history of being invaded by Russia and Britain, and being otherwise interfered with by both, not to mention having its democratically elected government overthrown by the US, which then supported the Shah and turned a blind eye to his brutality and corruption. If anybody needs a nuke, it's Iran. If Israel is so keen to see Iran submit to the IAEA, I'd think it's only reasonable that Israel show Iran how its done.
...Israel has wasted enough American time and resources.
Israel will prevail against all odds despite of of Hussien Obama. It is the latter that will end up losing his job if he continues to cow to Islam.
Every computer expert knows what "garbage in - garbage out" means. Eiland and his geniuses have bungled this with faulty assumptions. A symbolic Israeli strike against a side-show installation like heavy-water production makes no sense to start with. Planning needs to be based on game-changing moves. Israel did not care what France thought in waging the 6-Day War that neutralized Nasser's genocidal plans. 100% predictable DeGaulle would cut off arms sales, and no assurance US would fill the void (which they did). But there was NO CHOICE, then, and none now either. Iran is hell-bent on nuking Israel, say their goal is destroying Israel, and no PA state deal will change that. Obama is no friend of Israel, and US/UN "security guarantees" have proven worthless every time Israel has relied on them. Israel must prepare its nuclear arsenal for total destruction of Iran. Eiland's "think tank" should be simulating only whether a preemptive 1st strike is preferable to a retaliatory 2nd strike
..then there is of Obama launching a first strike against Iran
The last thing Obama would do is to launch an unprovoked attack against Iran. This would shake up the world, and not in a good way. I am surprised that people can seriously think that there is any chance Obama would do this.
George W. Bush seems to have turned Israel down on using Iraqi airspace to mount an attack on Iran. Obama is even less likely to aid an Israeli attack. Israel's war psychopaths will just have to cool their heels it seems. But will they? Israel does have the ability - at great risk of disaster - to launch a small attack on Iran's nuclear plants. Not enough of an attack to cause major damage, but enough to start a war.
If n.korea and pakistan have nukes,iran also has them,for sure...or can buy them at will.Like Bibi said some time ago,this is 1938 all over again,the same script,different characters(or lack of it),but the same story...The difference is that Israel is not Czecoslovakia.The only alternative is OZIRAK,OZIRAK,OZIRAK AND TO HELL WITH ANYBODY ELSE...
What a weird analogy. Obama's mother and Israel?!? First of all, he is the AMERICAN president. His priority is the AMERICAN people and AMERICAN interests overseas. Why in the world would he give Israel the green light to attack Iran when AMERICAN soldiers are currently in the M.E.?!? If Israel wants to blow up everyone who even looks at them sideways, that's on Israel. Quit being the obnoxious little sister who picks fights with your neighbors but expects your big brother America to save your hyde. If you start a battle, YOU need to finish it. Not us. Grow up already.
I said for years (Just as the war in Iraq started) the Iranians are smarter then the Israelis and Americans put together, letting the Iranians of the hook. Iran played them like a fiddle. And for this you have to thank Bush for starting The Iraq unimportant wars and lying, and the Israelis that are a republic banana. Now nobody will take on Iran, because the world is scared to death from them
He has no balls,no guts and he is only interested in hollywood rights.Perhaps he should ask the president of iran to play basketball,I hear he is good at that.
Of course we would strike Iran if our safety were involved, but not for the convenience of any other nation. As to caring about a Jewish state, why should we? We, although a Christian majority nation, set ourself up as one in which no religion is the official one, and are not terribly happy with any other nation defining any portion of their populace as inferior because of their religion.
Everybody loses if Iranian Islamists gain access to nuclear weapons - not just jews. The people who will rejoice will be the type who think it's a good idea to have their kids blow themselves up in the middle of crowds. I suppose that includes you.
The Obama administration cannot stop Israel from attacking Iran if Israel so chooses...Joe Biden said exactly that last July. The question though is this: Is Israel serious enough about destroying Iran's nuclear capability to do it alone?
Sites. It's never gonna happen, NEVER EVER would Iran use a nuclear weapon on some of Islam's holiest sites and the birthplace of Jesus. Listen. It would never ever happen. This is all war mongering with Iran about regional hegemony. It's about keeping the Arabs 3rd world countries while Israel retains it's regional hegemony and nuclear supremacy over Islamic and Arab nations, Religious or not. Iran is not obedient to the West's demands, that is why they are under the gun. Israel and America are about to bite off more they can chew and it was lead to chaos on both sides.
but not if Israel was at stake. If Israel continues to be dependent it will disappear with 1 nuke fire by Iran after France etc. attacks Iran. And the U.S. etc. denies Israel overhead flight space to defend itself. NObody else but Israel cares really about a Jewish state per se. on the contrary. They all see Jewish state as contaminators of their religion and want Jewish state out not in. But Israel leaders see no farther than their noses. And Israeli last stand will be to sit in their shelters and wait for diasporan tree planters for them later on.
don't worry. nukes will be for deterrence ONLY