TEXT: UN cease-fire resolution on conflict in Lebanon

You said "In my mind Israel has a right to exist only if Palestine exist". There is need for another history lesson here. The so called Palestinians, were offered their own state by the UN in 1948, which is now Jordan,they refused because they wanted that land and the land of Israel,or nothing.So they got nothing, idiotic I know,but true. And now they beg for a piece of whatever Israel will give them,like Gaza,so they can attack Israel from it. Idiotic I know,but true. But understand this historical fact,there is no history of Palestinians, they did not come from the ancient Philistines, because they were conquered to extinction. And after the Second Roman conquest of Jews in Jerusalem by the Emperor Hadrian in 136 AD, Hadrian renamed Israel and Judea to Palestine,after the Jews ancient extinct enemies, the Philistines, because he hated the Jews. The land belongs to the Jews, not a group of Arab nomads that decided to call themselves Palestinians and claim land that was never theirs.

Islam has protected the Jews and respected them? Who dropped you on your head? Islam has always hated,persecuted and been jealous of Jews,Islam couldn't have cared less about that tiny scrap of useless dessert now called Israel until the Jews wanted it for their home again, which is rightfully their home and has been for over 5000 years,(historical fact)long before Islam was invented. Islam is dedicated to the destruction of Israel(historical fact) and nothing less,so don't look for Israel to be whimpy about it's survival,and don't look for anything other than a false peace with Islam.

I am amazing at what I am reading here on this board, I find there such ignorance with regard to this issue of boarders and right to exist. In my mind Isreal has a right to exist only if Palistaine exist, because if you were to find a map dated 1948 or before... there was no Isreal, so give yourself a history lesson. So starting from 1948, now what international borders are you talking about that HA crossed over... if you were in 1948 that border did not exist... hence HA did not exist because there was no need for HA to exist. Isreal has always presented this conflict as a religious conflict, where any honest historian will tell you that Islam has protected the Jews and respected them. For the first time ever Isreal has given the world a glimps of what it really look like. For the first time ever Isreal has faced its greatist defeat ever, the fact that after 33 days its soldiers have accomplished nothing. For the first time ever the US has let Isreal down...

To those not interested in listening to this dude's long diatribe, what he said was that "the resistance" won't stop attacking Isreal until they control East Jerusalem and all lands that Isreal captured when Isreal was attacked in 1967. Dude, when you attack a country, you don't get back the land you lost in that failed attack. What he fails to admit is that Hezbollah and all parties involved (except the legitimate portion of the Lebanese govt) state publicly that their goal is to push Isreal into the sea. You see, not only did Isreal take some of their land as a buffer zone when they attacked Isreal, but the Isrealis are also guilty of being Jewish, which is an offense punishable by death. Note that Isreal has traded land for peace with some of the more progressive Arab states. But these terrorists will continue to attack, as this man stated, even if Shebaa farms is given away. And THAT is why Hezbollah invaded Isreal's U.N.-recognized borders to start this war.

It may sound good on paper but the UN text is totally unrealistic. HEZBOLLAH will not release the soldiers, vacate S. Lebanon, and stop firing rockets. Israel will not vacate S. Lebanon or stop fighting until it has achieved a near total destruction of Hezbollah and its infrastructure. UNIFIL is not capable of doing any kind serious job in S. Lebanon or anywhere else for that matter. The Lebanese govt. is too fractured to put together any kind of reasonable force in S. Lebanon. So in the end, the countries that want to see Hezbollah defeated put on a nice show and created a nice piece of meaningless paper. The terms required for each of the warring parties will not be met and the war will continue for quite some time. The UN delegates can have some more cake and coffee, hobnob, and pat themselves on the back for a nice job. But nothing will have changed.

First of all, since when did it matter to Israel what the UN decided? Ever heard of resolution 425? It was applied after how many years? 10, 12 more? 47, I thought that this war was to spread peace in the new ME adn to eliminate terror as stated by your masters Bush and Rice? I think you should appear before the whole world and admit that this is your way of behaving and leading daily life. 48, secretly, there is no way to get out of this as winners. why? because the rest of the world and the Lebanese and Arabs watch LIVE television adn see the bombings and massacres LIVE. Moreover, the dead innocent civilians are relatives and friends of the Lebanese? proof enough? goto www.aljazeera.com, www.tayyar.orgm www.7days.ae. check out the world and don't be afraid to open up.

Well, it's probably too late to say so, but Israel should just tell the world we will not and cannot accept this resolution. I doubt the U.S. will abandon us in the end, and secretly, I'm sure they're hoping we find a way to win this existential fight.

Bassem, This was not the first time that Hezbollah has infiltrated our borders in an attempt to murder and kidnap. So remember exactly who started this war. We will not tolerate Hezbollah aggression and your attempts to pervert the truth. Also Hezbollah and anyone else who thinks that they can attack us, murder and kidnap, be prepared for the fiercest response you can ever imagine. This time was gentle compared to what will happen next time.

Mr. David, I really enjoy reading your comments. Right on brother!

Please watch this interview and that might shed some light to these people who don't understand why this war started http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

i fail to see the return of the kidnapped soldiers... what the hell have i been sitting in rocket fire for all these weeks, so israel could retreat without reaching it's abjective to get back the soldiers, isn't that why we went in??????????????? i am very disappointed. will see what israel does now, because a mistake on israel's part is a big mistake for us people.

ISRAEL DO NOT ACCEPT THE CEASE FIRE....

Ah, I agree with what you have writtern below. The Palestinians have a right to resist and Israel is asking for the only alternative left to them by retaining the settlements as you mentioned below. Observer "As Jawaharlal Nehru said, "the only alternative to coexistence is co-destruction"

Hala, If the Lebanese had the strength, courage and, may I say, masculine equipment, to run their own country, free of the PLO, Hezbollah, and the Syrians - yes, the only occupation that I know of in Lebanon was the 29-year occupation by the Syrians - Israel really wouldn't give a rat's ass about Lebanon - excuse, but sometimes gutter language is all that people understand.

once again,like the over the past 20 yrs you have let syria control your own destiny,and then blame israel.tell you what ,make hesbullah your national savior,see if your democracy will flourish or you will live under islam heavy handedness. Our Democracy was flourishing & you decided like the US in Iraq to Liberate us & smash the competition that is taking over the neighbourhood. Wow That's awesome, Thanks. Whay don't you explain that to my cousin in hospital after Israel's boms fell to Liberate him. SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP

Have you noticed that in the text of the UN resolution the word Terror has vanished. In the next resolution may be it will appear stuck to the name of Israel. And you say Israel did not lose!! Israel is now of no use to the USA.

The War was not about them you see, they were simply the excuse. Based on that the UN ignored them since if they were to mention them they will have to mention Lebanese in Israeli Jails Too, which will be no good for Israel's image as a Democracy still engaging in illegal detaining of prisoners for the past 58 years. Hope we cleared things Up for you Dude

Overall it seems to me to be very good for Israel: exactly what should have been the case before the war. However, there does not seem to be any mention of the kidnapped soldiers.

One of these massacres you talk about ended up killing only 1 person. The funeral was not in Tyre but in a different town and the IDF shot missiles at buildings nearby maybe they should stopshooting missiles from civilian areas and they won't have these problems. Funny how when a missiles lands on a bridge everybody runs to see it wouldn't you logically run the other way so as not to be killed? Gaza has been given to the palestinians and most Israeli towns in the west bank were either jewish towns beofre 1948 or were baren land until jews decided to build on them. Example is Amona which because of Peace Know a European org Israeli destroyed even though no palestinians even lived there.

once again,like the over the past 20 yrs you have let syria control your own destiny,and then blame israel.tell you what ,make hesbullah your national savior,see if your democracy will flourish or you will live under islam heavy handedness.

is this your idea of an arab victory and an israeli defeat?you guys make me laugh if this is all you can muster up.and yes we will talk till next war,and maybe laugh at your lame asses!

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From what you write it seems that you were brain washed. Next time you write, you should bother and learn the basic facts.

Hizbollah is now a party in Libanon, they have a couple of cabinet ministers. The militant wing is no longer expected to function...

Can you tell me please where the resolution requires the return of Regev and Goldwasser? I don't see it.

Absolutely magnificent. This gives both Israel and the Lebanese government exactly what they wanted and reduces Hezbullah to a trivial criminal force not even worth mentioning by name. This is the most absolutly humiliating outcome possible for Nesrallah. Gee. It's almost as if FM Livni and her Lebanese equivalent got together a couple of months ago and said, "how can we get Hezbullah out of power and humiliated on the street before UNIFIL expires and they set up a permanent separate state that will kill any hope of Lebanese self-government" Hmmm.

A political solution cannot, however, be implemented as long as Israel continues to occupy Arab land in Lebanon, Gaza, the West Bank and the Syrian Golan Heights and as long as it wages war on innocent people in Lebanon and Palestine. As Jawaharlal Nehru said, "the only alternative to coexistence is co-destruction''. Enough destruction, dispossession, desperation, displacement and death! Lebanon must be allowed to reclaim its position in this troubled region as a beacon of freedom and democracy where justice and the rule of law prevail, and as a refuge for the oppressed where moderation, tolerance and enlightenment triumph. By: Fouad Siniora is the Prime Minister of Lebanon. Your choice, agree with Siniora or continue to be a stooge of Bush policy of war and destruction.

The 3 massacres are in the towns of Dwayr, Qana, Qoq. Also, during the first week of war, 2 aid workers (Red Cross truck) delivering aid were murdered by an Israeli bomb - and countless similar stories. Last weekend as a funeral procession was taking place in Tyre Israeli jets opened fire on the procession killing the mourners. On Saturday in a village in North Lebanon a bridge was bombed - there were no casualties - UNTIL PEOPLE CAME TO LOOK AND ISRAELI JETS BOMBED IT AGAIN!!! 13 people died! Such cowardice has been happening throughout this Israeli offensive - how crooked!!! What on earth are you talking about my right to live in Sydney? I didnt throw anyone out of their home and murder them to live in mine! And I dont terrorise my neighbours. Furthermore, I am not an elder of Zion. nor am I a zionist. You people are brainswashed. You should check out www.netureikarta.com. You've been fooled by the Zionist political movement, and read the new book by Lowenstein.

As they treat us. The prisoner's you speak of, are they the convicted murderer et al? All three of them? If you speak of thousands love, I suspect you meant to criticise Syria, which has thousands of Lebs in its jails. Three major massacres of civilians? Prove it... And the 20+ military age males killed in an airstrike on a building in the Beka'a? All civilians? What were they harvesting? Hizbollah's hashish perhaps? That is after all the major cash crop in the Beka'a, where did the supposed baskets of fruit come from? The denial that these boys were hizbollah entirely discredits you, piss off. Also, I note the abysmal turnout today, 6,000 (mainly lebs) in Sydney, not I suggest the 100K+ needed to sway public opinion. Hizbollox has lost this war, and the arabs are in serious trouble, as public opinion is hardened by 911, 7/7, bali, et al, noone really cares do they?

No matter what. Israel, with its all military might and backing of the US (military and deplomatically), has been defeated, period. That is crystal clear. You can talk until the nex war ..

Hullo Winning, Well done. Lovely letter. Hasrallah is a hero. Still comfortable in Dubai?

Hi Star of David I think Isreal can't win any war again, now the real face of Isreal has appeared to the whole world, the media play is not anymore Isreal game, IDF present itself a vicious army who are thirsty for the blood, supported by the cowboy, what Nasralla said will happen, he will return the 3 prisoners, free Shebaa, and he becomes a hero, thanks for the idiot government you have!

Hullo Brenda, welcome to this forum. One question: could you just point me in the direction of a reasonable resource which sites your 3 massacres? Did u mean 1 million displaced in N. Israel? Wasn't clear. Yes, i agree, israel has shattered the Lebanese econony & infrastructure trying to deter HA from its ambitions of being the new salah ud din. There will be no caliphate, brenda. Isn't it terrible that a small party of a minority group can drag a whole country into a devastating war? A country that recently spent BILLIONS into re-making itself as the paris of the ME? Do you think HA will remain as popular in lebanon? Or will it have been deterred from grabbing a couple of people across an international border in the future 'cos it felt like it? a funny thing, deterrence. I have to agree with you brenda, ISRAEL IS SELFISH, if by that u mean it fights for its right to exist safely. Much like your right to live safely in Sydney. Brenda, shalom & salaam habibti.

YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU THINK HEZBOS WILL DISARM. THEY ARE A TERRORIST GROUP, THEY STARTED THIS WAR AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE BLOODSHED. THINK FOR YOURSELF INSTEAD OF BELIEVING ALL THE LEFTIST PROPOGANDA.

AID convoys, shelters, refugee camps, hurry up Israel is still time to shed some more innconet blood. Then trade prisoners, get out of the Shebaa Farms, respect Lebanese air space and STAY OUT!

I SAW SOME FOOTAGE THE OTHER DAY OF WHEN U.S. PRESIDENT TRUMAN WAS ANNOUNCING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE U.N. IT SEEMED THAT EVERYONE HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES AND IDEAS FOR THIS BODY. IT'S A GREAT IDEA AFTER ALL. IT HAS TURNED INTO A CORRUPT, MORALLY BANKRUPT HOME FOR THE WORST DICTATORSHIPS IN THE WORLD. IT REALLY SHOULD BE DISBANDED, GET RID OF THE PRETENSE.

I think if you really want peace you should a little bit learn self-critic. 1)Writing that "israel only DEFENDED itself" you are not telling the truth. That's part of the israeli propaganda. There are still lebanese prisonners of war in israel, israeli warplanes and war ships violate everyday lebanese airspace and cost, israel still occupy the shebaa farms (28 km²!)... 2)You also wrote "after all Hezbollah was the one starting the hostilities": this is also false, since the hostilities have never ended, since the creation of hezbollah 1982, as a reaction to the invasion of lebanon by israel. You should forget the illusion of thinking that the hostilities end when Israel decide. Israel should negociate unconditionnally with Lebanon, Syria and with the Mahmud Abbas. And not just say we will only talk to you when you accept all our preconditions.

Um--any possibility you are a member of the Elders of Zion conspiring to reveal Israel's enemies as anti-Semites seeking the destruction of the Jewish State? PS--I don't think the Torah denies the Jewish people the means of survival. (Such denial comes from extreme anti-Semites.) I do admit, however, that Torah would probably frown on my writing this on Shabbat.

184. United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-107 Regarding the Recent Violent Events, 20 October 2000, and Foreign Ministry reaction, 21 October 2000 On 20 October, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution which condemned Israel for excessive use of force, called for an immediate end to the violence and supported the creation of a mechanism of inquiry. It also called for the resumption of the peace talks. The resolution was adopted by 92 in favor, 6 against, with 46 abstentions. Israel adamantly rejected this resolution, which it considered one-sided, and ignored the responsibility of the Palestinian Authority in planning and instigating the violence. Text of the resolution and Israel's reaction follow:

You are absolutley correct. The Israelis can do whatever they want..but when it comes to Lebanon, God forbid. Bottom line is that Israel wants lebanon and will go the only way they know how, by excessive force. Yeah there maybe a ceasefire but the sad things is that all those children, women and men that died for no reason. Just b/c of Israels selfish and evil ways. They have been like that since the beginning of time and will be like that forever. Israelis blood is not more important than the Lebanese. But yet they think they are "GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE" Well the jews will be in a big surprsie come Judgement day.

Yet another Security Council ceasefire in the 58 year War Against Israel's Existence. This resolution refers, directly, to Hezbollah., Why? So far as I know, the Hezzites are not a UN member and are not the responsible governing authority in Lebanon. (Or does the UNSecGen concede this point?) And the reference to 242 dredges up that good old land for peace phrase which Dennis Ross now calls "land for war," I believe. Will someone please note that James G. McDonald, U.S. representativ e in Israel, wrote to Clark Clifford in the Turman White House, August 24, 1948 that, in part, ceasefires-- insead of peace treaties-- enable the Arabs "indefinitely [to] call the tune." (And add, now, to the Arabs the new Haman in Tehran. Secretary of State Rice, please see page 1340 of FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1948, Volume V.

What about the Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails? What about providing the map to the 140,000 land mines that are still on Lebanese land? What about Chebaa farms? Come on Israel, your intentions are clear. You hide behind Hezbollah and terrorism and propoganda when they are merely excuses for you to keep your neighbours weak. Over the last month you claim that you were acting defensively but did you need to: Murder 1500 innocent people in Lebanon? Disasterously damage the environment with an oil spill resulting in 30,000 tonnes of oil spilling along the Lebanese coast? Displace 1,000,000 people? Completely shatter the lebanese economy? Destroy the infrastructure (all bridges and roads linking lebanese towns have been destroyed). Cut off Lebanon from humanitarian aid (no airport or port operating in Lebanon) Conduct 3 major massacres of innocent people hiding in bomb shelters or unloading fruit? Israel, you are cowards, selfish and evil.

Brilliante argument, but they do not want to understand it.

As far as I understand it, the paragraph 12 gives UNIFIL seriously expanded mandate. To my understanding of previous events from 1978 until now, this is not to the benefit of Israel. If I am correct this could mean that: UNIFIL, if deemed necesary can prevent Israeli incursions into lebanon. So you might get your drones and planes shot down, and your ships sunk. Eu weapons are a bit different than hizballah weapons.

Poor Rafi. So many questions. To put you out of your misery, the answers to your questions are: 1)because the lebanes gov. is weak 2)because the Lebanes army is worse than weak 3)because since Lebanon can't keep an eye on HA, then Israel will(altho they STILL didn't see all the preparaton HA had done...) 4)because a "DEFENSIVE" action, Rafi, is when an offensive action is threatened or committed by another with intent to seriously harm 5) because cros-border kidnapping is an act of international aggression 6)because firing missiles only at population centres by HA is a crime against humanity 7) because HA needed to be shown that deterrence means just that (u won't be seeing much of HA in the near future without dragging Lebanon to the brink of utter destruction...) and 8)because, while the IDF action was not conclusive, u will agree that Israel can live without your respect, just so long it can do so so safely. Glad to be able to help u out, mate

Miaow, your opinion demonstrates amateurish understanding of the events and your open willingness to believe propaganda outright and with no scrutiny. Since you talk about "un"provoked attacks by hezbollah, care to explain to the rest of us why israeli planes and drones have not stopped invading lebanese airspace and why IDF warships pretended lebanese territorial waters were their training grounds since you supposedly withdrew from the south???? or why israelis still hold hostage lebanese citizens in their jails? and please dont pretend this was a DEFENSIVE action... it obviously was an attack on the lebanese people to try and prove a pointless point of israeli "deterence"... which of course backfired on you... and hence not only did you dramatically lose this war, but you u also lost any respect and any goodwill you mighthave built up over the years with your arab neighbours. goodluck regaining it...

Reading this resolution made me think about all those who died in the recent violence, died for nothing. Before this war, the position of Lebanon and Hezbollah was to liberate Shibaa Farms and free their prisoners (three prisoners) and to get the mines maps. Israel wanted Ezbullah disarmed. These both demands could have been achieved by some good well and compromise on both sides. actually in the national unity talks in Bairut two months ago, Hezbulla said they will disarm if their demands are met. Now after all this killing, a resolution comes to bring us to point zero before the war. Who will convey this piece of news to the mothers of killed young men and what will they tell them?

UN take an old, an ancient resolution and change the date. We believe that Israel start again the job before end of 2006. There is nothing in this text, its " an empty shell". I hope that Israel explain this "copy" at the first degree.We are sure that the "beards" are enjoy,and we understand why!

The Hebrew lang Israeli press specifically mentions that IN THE UN's PREAMBLE to this resolution, the freeing of the 3 Israeli hostages is taken as a pre-condition PURSUANT TO the body of the resolution itself. hezb allah isolated now chooses between war or peace. HA has provided Israel with valuable information about fighting a different war, that traditional armour & tactics were not very successful, that Israel is wide open to rocket/missile attacks without the need for ANY foreign troops on israeli soil,that hezb allah provided the IDF a slap in the face from which i hope it will learn much, that the IDF review its logistical errors in time for the next war & that forward operations of ground troops be urgently reviewed to take account of a guerilla-style war. This has been HA's most valuable contribution to assuring the continued existence of Israel (forewarned is forearmed); luckily, it did not yet have a more deadly arsenal. Mabruk, Nasrallah!! You saved us :)

I seem to recall this all started with the abduction of 2 israeli soldiers, and israel only DEFENDED itself after that... I don't see why israel should "learn how to be a non hostile country", after all Hezbollah was the one starting the hostilities

Manana

somthing is fishy in this resolution..not so clear..what happened in the past month can happen again and again..israel should start thinking seriously about living and existing in the middle east..Israel should start learning how to be a non hostile country...otherwise, more will be coming.

The soldiers are only mentioned in the preamble. "Emphasizing the need for an end of violence, but at the same time emphasizing the need to address urgently the causes that have given rise to the current crisis, including by the unconditional release of the abducted Israeli soldiers." In other words the UN is saying 'would you please give the soldiers back? but if you don't we won't do anything about it' Seems to me that's a pretty serious omission because if the points in the resolution are accomplised, hezbollah would have no reason to release the soldiers. The only way they are coming back now is with some good intelligence and entebbe 2.

Is this the real draft or is this a Joke? On such a idiotic document they had to spend almost two weeks agreeing on and composing? It is laughable!

I see no reference in the text to the release of the abducted soldiers.